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softbabe44
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Immediate toll from downgrade won't they say be on rates Standard&Poor action will put a scare into financial markets and jar the nation's economic has any one ever heard of Standard&Poor I haven't so the down grade in credit what's going to happen next? The real danger from the down grade of U.S government debt by Standard &Poor isn't higher interest rates It's the hit to the nation's fragile economic psyche and rattled financial markets their decision strip U.S of it's sterling AAA credit rating what does this honestly do for us as the American people ?Should we set back and see what happens I guess it isn't going to be pretty this the agency is striking at the heart of what makes the global economy tick says Chris rup key chief financial economist for the bank Tokyo-Mitsu bisish UFI One economist Paul Dales of Capital Economics worried Saturday that the downgrade could trigger another financial crisis that sends Western economies back into a recessions. So the areas of worry are social security ,health care,taxes,debt limit, so is it a set back and see what happens we as the American people have to work on theses issues see what we need to do. What about the debt ceiling was it right how do other Americans see this.
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Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
9 months ago: This isn't a self inflicted wound it is a Tea Party inflicted wound. Republicans were warned not to play with fire but the Tea Party thought it would be good to destroy the economy so Obama would loose and then when the economy and the nation falls apart they can set up their new world order.

S&P said that it was the Republicans intransigence and their unwillingness to add any revenue at all that led to the downgrade. It is impossible to get our debt problem under control without raising taxes. So the Tea Party caused this for purely ideological reasons.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
9 months ago: Except, they forgot one important fact: they have no candidates that could beat Obama in an election...
9 months ago: Yeah! All of those "Rich, White, Old" Tea Partiers lost over a trillion dollars last week and over a trillion dollars today. Feel beeter now that you have cost the public more than 2 trillion dollars in less than a week? Your outlook for tomorrow?

Albert. You need to read the S&P report. Find a single line in it that states "increased revenues (taxes)". Over and over again it states cuts.

Maybe you define cuts as cutting the wealth of a select few. Maybe you would like to bring back "Jim Crow" since you have no problem reversing your discrimination.

PH..only time will tell. You willing to eat those words in November 2012?
What do you think the insiders of the DNC (Clinton) are thinking right about now?
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
9 months ago: Absolutely, 100%.

I don't really care what the DNC are thinking about, I'm not interested in any of their potential candidates.

I do have a question for you though: You seem pretty confident in a Tea Party take over in November 2012. I am curious as to which Tea Party candidate you think would be able to beat Obama in a 1v1 general election? (This is a real question, I really am interested to know)
9 months ago: Since you asked...I'll tell you once I decide...it's early...You really don't care what the DNC insiders have planned as a potential DNC primary? Really. Fair enough. I'll take you at your word. Are you convinced that as of today President Obama will not have any other Democrat opposition?

Can you give me your list of "Tea Partiers" to see who you think our choices are?
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
9 months ago: I think that the Democrats should run somebody else against him, however I don't think they will. Hillary could probably beat him now and she would certainly be a better leader than he is.

As for the Tea Party candidates, currently the following are running: Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, Tim Pawlenty and maybe Donald Trump. If I missed any please let me know I would like to look into what they are doing.

So based on the list above, which Tea Party candidate do you think could beat President Obama in an election?

Also, as you are a self-proclaimed Tea Partier I think it would be really interesting if you made a post or even just a response describing briefly the general standpoint you have on issues central to the election and how they differ from Democrats and Republicans.
9 months ago: "Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, Tim Pawlenty and maybe Donald Trump"?

Oh, I get it. The broadcast news Tea Party. You really are out of the loop, aren't you.

issues on the election? Please. You think we only want to promote a "Minority" ideal? Once again...The broadcast news...

No. You will have to work much harder to see into the thought process of a Tea Partier. We have gone underground for now. Using the same technology that elevated Obama well beyond his paygrade.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
9 months ago: Ok, fair enough. Educate me on a candidate that is actually running for the Presidency that is a Tea Partier. I honestly don't know any from the "underground", so can you educate me at least to a place to look?

I don't think you promote minority ideals, I am asking you to identify where you stand as a tea party member on issues relevant to this election (Jobs, Taxes, Debt, War, Budget Concerns, Healthcare, Entitlement reform etc).

For the time being I will stand by my statement that none of the current running tea party candidates can win the election.
9 months ago: That is a long list. Since I have to get up in 7 1/2 hours to go to work it will have to wait until tomorrow. No, I won't give you my take on the "Who" will be. They might not be included on your list though. It's not Ron Paul.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
9 months ago: No problem. While I understand that you cannot name a who, I am actually more interested in whether or not you think the Tea Party needs to go independent? To me if they stay within the Republican Party they will never be able to accomplish their goals. With the "oversight" of the RNC and the House/Senate leadership I really don't see them becoming a strong party. HOWEVER, I think that they could become the third party I was talking about in my recent article. I am only concerned that they may not have the ground work funding to get it started, and as I said they need to win a large number of seats.
9 months ago: The who? Funny. Nice try. Tea Party needs to go independent? No. You don't seem to see that it has begun to transform the Republican and Democrat parties with its ground game. Both sides are running scared. They know it and we know it. RNC? Yeah, the RNC would present a problem unless their money dried up because they fell out of favor. We do not need the RNC as proven in the last election. The RNC needs us. You think the Tea Party would have any qualms about electing a non-Republican that was more Constitutionally Conservative than a RINO?

Like I said before. Some liberal-Republicans will be needing new jobs after the next election. It is not about electing Republicans. That is the major flaw in your sides argument against the Tea Party.

Just keep watching. The next 15 months are going to send the country either into the long term tank (toilet) or prosperity. And it won't be based in the Northeast or the West Coast. Both of those regions have failed us miserably.
9 months ago: So, you really want to know what my thoughts are on...

Jobs, Taxes, Debt, War, Budget Concerns, Healthcare, Entitlement reform etc.

That is a very broad question. Narrow it down and I might consider answering this weekend when I have more time. I don't answer open ended questions.

Jobs -
Taxes -
Debt -
War -
Budget Concerns -
Healthcare -
Entitlement(s) -

What is your question on each of those?

While we are at it lets add

Defense Spending -

Have fun submitting your question on each item.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
9 months ago: It is interesting that there is such a long list of things you don't do: Like answer questions or "self promote"...

I want to know how you would go about fixing those issues. Job creation, tax reform, Debt management, how to handle the wars (end, continue or whatever), healthcare reform...these are items that will come up constantly over the course of the election. I want to know where you stand on them (or the candidate you like).

There are approx 94 Tea party members in congress...that's not much of a takeover...
9 months ago: That is funny. Ok I'm game.

Here is your list.

Jobs - Cut government regulations which are killing jobs...
Oil Drilling, SOX, Frank Dodd, Obamacare, etc.

Taxes - Everyone should PAY something unless you think there is a free ride for 50 percent of America. Let's make the bottom 50 percent pay 3 percent. Including government entitlement payments. They have no skin in the game.

Debt - Cut all spending to 90 percent of current levels and freeze it until the debt is paid off.

War - Constitutional Congressional approval

Budget Concerns - Government regulations and pork, Obamacare - notice I didn't say Defense?

Healthcare - repeal Obamacare

Entitlement(s) - No more free rides. It's a paycheck and we should require recipients to perform public service work.

Only 94 after the first election? Funny.

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