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Will the New Day in America Be a Red Dawn?

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When I first joined RantRave, I'll admit, I thought I knew it all. I was convinced by the Liberal Media that our nation is comprised of immigrants of various creeds who, like marbles, rub against each other in a giant Chivas Regal bag, from sea to shining sea, each of us with an equal opportunity to be plucked out of the bag by the god or social determinant of our choice and shot into the circle of life, and if we knock out some other marble than our god or social determinant wins and gets to keep all the marbles, and then melt them in his or her salad bowl. This vision, as cliché as it is, has always made my heart swell, like a Twinkie in a microwave.

And so, since I wanted to help my god or social determinant get all the marbles, I made a cynical and calculated move. In my rants, I took on the persona of a "communist" because I saw this topic is trending big right now and would get me TONS of page views. Also EVERYONE would click on the ads for communist products like commodity fetishisms, dictatorships of the proletariat, hammers, sickles, and collectivized farms. Of course I didn't believe any of it, until I started reading some posts from my more experienced comrades.

The first revelation occurred as I was admiring my new post about the constitution (another topic which is very hott right now). I noticed something at the bottom of the page that I hadn't written – a comment! From markbyrn! I was immediately drawn to one phrase in particular: "Jesus was a commie too and look what it got him." Mark was right! Look at all the huge following Jesus got from being a communist! I should take my project more seriously! The god or social determinant of Jesus has more marbles than anyone besides the god or social determinant of Muhammad! Maybe there was something to this thing after all!

But wait…was Jesus really a communist? Is there any scriptural evidence to support this claim?

First I had to find out what communism is. Most of the Karl Marx Wikipedia page was hard to read, but one quotation caught my eye: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." Doesn't get much simpler than that!

I took out my study Bible and read the entire New Testament to search for anything that something similar. I was shocked at what I found.

"all who owned property or houses sold them and lay them at the feet of the apostles to be distributed to everyone according to his need." Acts 4:32-35

There's more:

" He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree. He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away." Luke 52-53

Well, apparently Jesus WAS a commie. I joined RantRave to make money, but actually I was making much more: my soul.

I quickly opened the RantRave home page to see what else I could learn. I decided to look at the top rants of the top author because this is where the highest quality information should obviously be. I clicked on this fellow Red State Guy, who looked a lot like my uncle. Wait, isn't Red the color of communism? What wisdom does Red State Guy have that I can appropriate for my own ends?

"The United States of America was formed by Christians seeking to spread Christianity throughout the world. Period."

Is this what Trotsky meant when he talked about worldwide revolution?

I smelled a scoop. If I could only connect the dots, I would be the richest marble in the bag!

For this, Wikipedia would not be enough. After all, most of the articles there are written by teenagers and the unemployed. I needed a trustworthy, unbiased source of Truth. Conservapedia, hear my cry!

"A syllogism is a logical argument that necessarily follows if two premises are true."

Huh? Could you give me an example I can relate to?

"All cats are mammals.
Fluffy is a cat.
Therefore
Fluffy is a mammal."

I can haz try?

"The U.S. is a Christian nation.
Christ was a communist.
Therefore
THE U.S. IS A COMMUNIST NATION!"

Well, as a patriot, I guess I will stop merely pretending to be a communist and do my Christian duty and demand that the imperialist regime in Washington be overthrown and all power be given to the soviets. Lord, hear our prayer.


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22 months ago: Snicker, snicker, snort.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
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22 months ago: "Will the New Day in America Be a Red Dawn?"

No, it will be a Republic under the organic/original constitution and under the common law.

But the new Republic will bring back religion, back into our schools and values.

The Constitutional rights of the people WILL be respected and enforced.

On or about April First to the Forth, you will get notified, by the Governors of each state.

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22 months ago: Wacky, but at least you're not going on about your weird theories regarding American debt and gold anymore.
22 months ago: April 1st would be my best guess. What day would that be?
22 months ago: OK, you got me laughing...but I am not quite ready to buy a used Yugo.
As to Jesus and communism...not a far stretch...except for the enforcement part...for I think you left out a little bit of instruction from another...one who better qualified to understand to the workings of grace than perhaps yourself...
2Co 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

If you see this as a way of hedging on the sharing end of things...well that's exactly the point. God will receive only what is freely given; whereas I fear the many you may purport to speak for don't mind if the goods are surrendered or confiscated after their owner's body is dumped in a swamp.
The Lord you facetiously handle is not as far removed as you may think...or hope.
markbyrn
markbyrn
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22 months ago: ...2Co 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver...

No, that's just an additional requirement. In order to have eternal life, you still have to sell EVERYTHING and give the proceeds to the poor - that's according to Jesus. And the verse you cited only means you better have a big fat happy smile on your face when you're busy selling everything.
22 months ago: In truth Jesus never commanded everyone sell what they have and give to the poor...
But of course, that doesn't relieve me of having to be open to it...
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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22 months ago: Every man as he purposeth in his own heart, so let him give....

Markbyrn, you are reading into it the context you wish take away from it.
He is saying every man has to decide for himself what to give, and not because he feels obligated to give, but that which he wishes to give.
markbyrn
markbyrn
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22 months ago: You don't have to give and of course you're not obligated, but according to Jesus, if you want eternal life, you better get busy on Ebay and start selling EVERYTHING you have, and be cheerful about it. By the way, Ebay makes it easy to donate the proceeds to charity.
Out Of The Box
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22 months ago: And may I add that the same people who point out that Christ commanded some to give away all their earthly treasures, often deride those who do as fools.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
22 months ago: And besides, the passage you quoted occurred after Jesus's resurrection, so does this qualify Jesus as a communist, or just guilty by association?
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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22 months ago: Jesus was also the Son of God
America is a Christian nation
Americans are the children of God

Jesus was a conservative, because he promoted charitable giving, not government.
America is a Christian nation
Americans are conservatives.

That IS a fun game, and it brings more questions than answers.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
22 months ago: ..Jesus was also the Son of God..

According to Job 1:6 , God had many sons (Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD), and so you could all of us are sons or daughters of God. But don't Christians believe that Jesus is God?

...America is a Christian nation...

No it's not - it's a secular state composed of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Atheists, etc. etc.
Out Of The Box
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22 months ago: I was just going along with Gary's fallacious syllogism thingy. I have never considered the US as a Christian nation, even though the majority of its inhabitants claim to be Christians. He didn't even apply the syllogistic theory appropriately, and got it all wrong, and as usual, the lefty hypocrites just let it stand. If you are about the truth in all things, then why didn't you call him on his erroneous logic?

Oh, that's right. His lie supports your position.
markbyrn
markbyrn
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22 months ago: ...I smelled a scoop. If I could only connect the dots...

Gary, if you can connect RSG's dots, you'd be Glenn Beck's
chalkboard ##

Good post.
22 months ago: Thanks markbyrn! Couldn't have done it without you!

Next week I'll use some more logic and a youtube video to prove that Jesus is the Anti-Christ!
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
22 months ago: You're too smart for us!
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
22 months ago: "Goodbye, Cruel World"

HeyNoniNoni -- I thought you were a female, and I just found out that you just act like one.

" Wacky, but at least you're not going on about your weird theories regarding American debt and gold anymore. "

You should never act wacky and talk wacky and accuse others of being wacky.

Were you not going to get the hell out of Dodge?

Or weren't you being chased out by a emotional and/or mental breakdown?

What are you doing back here?

Asking to be taken apart again, now by me?

I did not want to join into your mental break down, because you are a troubled person.

But you are entitled to disagree with me, and stay as a corporate US citizen.

One thing I am not is a liar or one that posts any story that I know is not true.

The majority of posts here, especially now, are about insignificant things of no great importance to the Nation.

So, wacky one, who I thought was a sick girl with hurt feelings.

I will be watching your feminine like posts.

I tell it like it is, I pull no punches, tell no lies, and I am as I am

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markbyrn
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22 months ago: Ronbot, I see you're a little cranky today. Perhaps adding an avatar to your profile will lighten the mood - here's one that might be fitting:

http://tinyurl.com/y8oc5lk
markbyrn
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22 months ago: According to the Christian Bible and quoting Jesus himself, these are the requirements for how to get Heaven (or have eternal life)

1. Love God and Love Your Neighbor
2. Do not commit adultery, murder, steal, or lie
3. Sell EVERYTHING you have and give all the proceeds to the poor
4. Become a disciple (follower) of Jesus
5. Honor your mother and father
6. Hate your father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and life
7. Eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood
8. Become like little children
9. Be born again
10. Be more righteous than Pharisees and teachers of the law
11. Believe in Jesus (John 3:16)

It should be apparent that this Jesus fellow is contradictory (steps 5 and 6), barbaric (step 7), and of course and except perhaps for Mother Theresa, I have no knowledge of any Christian who completes 3 upon conversion.

By the way OOTB, the only people who might call Mother Theresa a fool are the millions of prosperity Christians who think God is an ATM machine as evidenced by Christian television networks such as Trinity Broadcasting. Have you sold EVERYTHING you own OOTB including the clothes off your back?? If not, you better get busy on Ebay and once everything is gone hit the road with your naked body and a wooden cross drinking the flesh and blood of the Son. And when your parents beg you to see a shrink, you just tell them I hate you! Wait, no, I honor you!! No wait, I'm just like a little child and I'm more righteous than the teachers of the law, weeee!!! Of course those who proselytize and pitch Jesus tend to only talk about step with 11 with a big happy smile.

It is no wonder that Thomas Jefferson observed, "Among the sayings and discourses imputed to him [Jesus] by his biographers, I find many passages of fine imagination, correct morality, and of the most lovely benevolence; and others again of so much ignorance, so much absurdity, so much untruth, charlatanism, and imposture, as to pronounce it impossible that such contradictions should have proceeded from the same being."
Out Of The Box
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22 months ago: And exactly where in the Bible does Jesus say that every should sell all their possessions?
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
22 months ago: Here's the quote from Luke 18 where a certain ruler asks how to have eternal life:

'A certain ruler asked him, "Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life? "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone. You know the commandments: 'Do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother. "All these I have kept since I was a boy," he said. When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." When he heard this, he became very sad, because he was a man of great wealth. Jesus looked at him and said, "How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God! Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."'

Is that not explicit enough and have you done it? Or will we engage in the religous right's reivisionist theology that has Jesus being the forerunner to Adam Smith and the the glories of Capitalism and Reaganomics? Of course the Christians on the left do the same thing and erase the elements they don't like about Jesus, but that's why Thomas Jefferson was spot-on.
Out Of The Box
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22 months ago: "a certain ruler" who loved his money and possessions more than he loved God. Jesus knew by his answers that the fellow did not know himself, as he stated he was pretty much free of sin already. But Jesus knew that the young man was guilty of breaking a commandment. "Thou shalt have no other god before Me." That is why the young man was sad. He would have to choose between his money and his salvation.

Money is necessary. Jesus had a sack full of the stuff.
22 months ago: Mark, please once and for all. You keep bringing up Thomas Jefferson.
Are you saying Thomas Jefferson was not some form of Christian or are you saying he could seperate his own Christian beliefs and government?
22 months ago: Jesus graciously attested any sin against himself could be forgiven.
But it is not wise to venture to mock him and do experiments with God's patience.
22 months ago: Most experiments fail miserably.
22 months ago: This looks like it is going to be fun. Welcome to the fray.

Was Jesus a communist? Are you relying on what you will so be calling out dated references? Like many here love to state before quoting.
22 months ago: I'm giving 10 to 1 odds that there will be pie on some unsuspecting members faces when Gary comes out of the closet. It is common to wear camouflage when hunting.
22 months ago: I don't get it.
22 months ago: good.
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
22 months ago: He seldom makes sense.
22 months ago: Coming from you that would in fact be a compliment.
Aren't you working on your third enlistment? Mr. Run Away.
Mr. Spam. Seems like birds of a feather do flock together.

You are working on your third group of newbies, right?
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
22 months ago: markbyrn

Thanks but no thanks, I would not want to take over a picture that represents you, more than me.

Besides Byrn, I specialize in ONLY hunting two legged Godless prey, who worship the GOD called RON, I will leave the rest to you.

That way, we can divide the meat.

I tell it like it is, I pull no punches, tell no lies, and I am as I am

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markbyrn
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22 months ago: Ron, I do have an alternate raving mad dog avatar and you know quite well I'm no fan of Scientology and LRH - I just multi-task in the religious and pseudo-religious myths department. There's really no substantive difference between Scientology and any other religion except for the fact that Scientology became enemy #1 when they attacked the Interwebs to suppress their bats*it insane religious tech and Tom Cruise lunacy.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
22 months ago: Markbyrn

I agree with you about Scientology be public enemy #1.

But it is far worst than you think.

I have 18 years wasted and know this for a fact.

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22 months ago: So, how long is the list and how deep do they go into the government? I guessing that will be part of the upcoming change.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
22 months ago: The connection of the Godless Cult of Greed and Sin starts here.

From this link, it leads to more facts of why the Feds, wanted to take over the cult.

Since this cult is basically soulless and Godless, it fits right in with the agenda to destroy all real religions.

http://www.sc-i-r-s-ology.pair.com/conte...

http://www.sc-i-r-s-ology.pair.com/copyr...

http://www.sc-i-r-s-ology.pair.com/newsr...

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22 months ago: Are you a ronbot hunter or a ronbot hunterbot? It sucks that you got tricked into hooking up with these weirdoes, but maybe it has something to do with your reductive and obsessive way of thinking. Just like how Scientology blames everything on psychiatry, you can't blame everything on Scientology! Dang! I dare you to post something that doesn't mention yourself or the "church" of scientology! It would be therapeutic for both of us!
Altruist
Altruist
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22 months ago: Good Post Gary. I wonder if in your next post you will make it easier for the women to play along also. They seem to be few and far between.

I do think that the early Christians (1st 300 years) did live in communes and did a lot of that commie sharing stuff. The first "Churches" where the faithful met were in everyday houses.

I have heard but have been unable to prove, that the tribal society at that time was matrilineal. All of the houses and property at that time were owned by the women and passed down the family along the mothers line, much like the American Hopi society. Therefore the early churches were owned by the women and the women were probably the first Priestesses. Women were probably very influential in the early church and the early church was probably more loving and nurturing.

When the Roman Emperor Constantine held out the alluring possibility of Christianity becoming the official religion of Rome at the Council of Nicaea in AD 325. I suspect that he told them, "If only you guys can get your act together. There are hundreds of different factions and texts that you consider holy, and you don't even agree that the guy is divine! Look I just passed a law saying that Sunday is the day of rest, and you lot use Saturday, and my legions will never follow a religion that has those softy women as priests. You need to purge all of your texts of the writings of the women and man up. Make your religion more like my religion of Sol Invictus, and by the way the troops love the ceremonies of Mithra. They are pretty close to what you do anyway."

So all of the muckety mucks in the church who were glad that Constantine had just ended the persecutions were tripping over each other to please the emperor, so they declared Jesus a god, changed their day of worship, adopted the ceremonies of Mithraism and many of the trappings of Sol Invictus, burned all of the women's books, and purged what was left of all of the women from their history except the whores and the mother of Jesus, and then merged the religion with Judaism thus turning it into a patriarchy with a rich history of slaughtering people and being cruel so it would fit into the Roman mold, and guess what? They became the official religion of Rome.

22 months ago: Paul himself warned that it would not be long before the church would be set upon by those with no other interest than self advancement and power. To take the sheep and enslave them.
To a great degree that word was fulfilled with the religionization of the name of Christ...but that did not mean God had no disciples in the earth.
There have always been those scattered in and around the religious system that belong to the Lord, some understanding the system is anti-christ, others not so aware. Regardless, the Lord will have his will done through all his vessels...

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