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Volunteer Ministers: Making a Difference

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They are the biggest disaster relief force in the world.

They help their fellow men and women by restoring purpose, truth and spiritual values.

Perhaps most noticeably for many, Volunteer Ministers provide relief from natural disasters - from 9/11 to Hurricane Katrina, and from wildfires to tsunamis.

Volunteer Ministers were awarded the "Points of Light Award" by the Government of Florida for "exemplary volunteer service to their community".

Volunteer Ministers have special training in disaster response techniques. Their technology is effective, and they quickly train others so they help, too.

All Volunteer Ministers know the techniques of providing Locational Processing Assists - techniques that produce proven results in those afflicted by travail.

Yet, like most people doing good, they face criticism, slander and prejudice.

It is this prejudice that keeps them from doing more good, and keeps people from adopting the Assist techniques more universally.

For example all Volunteer Ministers know techniques ranging from how to make a drunk person sober, to how to alleviate the affects of nuclear radiation. If these simple techniques were taken up by police forces worldwide, the huge social and material costs of public drunkenness would evaporate. You can bet that bar owners, ambulance officers and pedestrians would be thankful. Nuclear power, too, would no longer be considered such a risk.

Do you want to know more about Volunteer Ministers?

Do want to learn the techniques of providing Assists?

Check out the links for more information.
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38 months ago: During 9/11, a man from Vulture Ministries dressed up as a police commissioner and started handing out medals to the VM tents. If that does not show you how deceptive they are, during the Virginia Tech shootings, they were such pests that the college kicked off of the campus.

http://glosslip.com/2009/03/06/scientology-volunteer-ministries-helping-with-a-hook/

VM is deceptive becuase they try to reach out to people during a vulnerable time and get them hooked on scientology. When people are in need of help, that is a neutral ground for religion, just as schools are too. If you are a religious group giving help, good for you, but it is unacceptable to try and convert them when they are in such a vulnerable state.

The Ministires half the do nothing or get in the way. They mess with tents that give mental help to tramatic victims or, instead of passing out food, water, clothing, etc, pass out scientology brochers or copies of Dianetics.

The diferance between VM and organizations like the red cross is that the VM exploit a neutral ground. Also, while organizations like the Boy Scouts etc., help their community just to be helpful, VM does it to get credit and market themselves.
Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
38 months ago: You have made the claim that:
"All Volunteer Ministers know the techniques of providing Locational Processing Assists - techniques that produce proven results in those afflicted by travail."

Can you provide a reference to a peer-reviewed medical study to document this claim? I am unaware of Locational Processing Assists ever having been scientifically tested, much less proven.
Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
38 months ago: NMHA News Release
September 17, 2001

Contact: Mark Helmke (703) 797-4315 mhel...@nmha.org
Beware Scientologists Claiming To Be Mental Health Professionals

Group Intentionally Confusing Public

ALEXANDRIA, VA (September 17, 2001) - The National Mental Health
Association (NMHA) today is warning the public and media to beware of
representatives of the Church of Scientology who are claiming to be
mental health professionals assisting individuals in New York City.

“This is a very important and sensitive time,” said Michael M. Faenza,
President and CEO of NMHA. “I urge the Church of Scientology to stay
out of mental health. The public needs to understand that the
Scientologists are using this tragedy to recruit new members. They are
not providing mental health assistance.”

Faenza said Fox News had been broadcasting an 800 help line for
“National Mental Health Assistance” and the network was unaware that
the number was being answered by the Scientologist’s center in Los
Angeles.

continued below...
Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
38 months ago: continued from above..

“The National Mental Health Association has received a number of
unconfirmed reports that Scientologists with the letters NMHA on their
shirts have been seen in New York claiming to be mental health
professionals,” Faenza explained. In fact, a Scientologist spokesman
told the St. Petersburg Times they had 450 volunteers working there.

“The police, fire departments, federal authorities and the media need
to beware of these individuals claiming to be mental health
professionals, and make sure they are working with credible mental
health organizations,” Faenza said.

The National Mental Health Association is the country's oldest and
largest nonprofit organization addressing all aspects of mental health
and mental illness. With more than 340 affiliates nationwide, NMHA
works to improve the mental health of all Americans through advocacy,
education, research and service.

NMHA is providing mental health assistance to American communities
through its local affiliates and to individuals at 1-800-969-NMHA and
at www.nmha.org.
38 months ago: Chef

You can go to your local Church to learn the techniques.
Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
38 months ago: I didn't ask where to learn how to give an Assist.

I asked you to provide a reference to a peer-reviewed medical study to document your assertion that Locational Processing Assists produce proven results. Can you do that or are you just making your claims up out of thin air?
38 months ago: The proof is in the results, Chef.
Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
38 months ago: No, actually the proof would be in the documented results of controlled experiments.

The subjective perceptions of a self selecting group of subjects devoid of any scientific method proves nothing but a test of one's gullability.
38 months ago: What results? That the Vulture Ministires are exploiting a neutral ground for their own gains?
38 months ago: Jack, you are always very quick too assert that you are right and critics are wrong, but when we ask for proof of our assertions, you always tell us to go ask a local church. Why can you not back it up yourself? You always seem to avoid confronting an issue yourself and direct the issues to the COS.
38 months ago: Jack, you are always very quick too assert that you are right and critics are wrong, but when we ask for proof of our assertions, you always tell us to go ask a local church. Why can you not back it up yourself? You always seem to avoid confronting an issue yourself and direct the issues to the COS.
38 months ago: Jack, you are always very quick too assert that you are right and critics are wrong, but when we ask for proof of our assertions, you always tell us to go ask a local church. Why can you not back it up yourself? You always seem to avoid confronting an issue yourself and direct the issues to the COS.
38 months ago: srry, didn't mean to post three times, i was having internet difficulties.
Greg73
Greg73
Canada
38 months ago: Locational processing helps individuals pull out of a tramadic incident and be more in the time that is present. Other than asking the person whether it helped or not, what kind of scientific evidence or study would you like? Can you see at all? Look at all the thanks that VMs receive. Can you even prove that psychiatry helps more than it harms? As far as I know, all they suggest is drugs and to talk about it. Not that talking doesn't help, but why would drugs be used? It's stupid! I mean, is something wrong with feeling pain when a tradgedy happens? Yeah it is undesirable, but drugs only keep one from not dealing with the emotions and thus bottle it up inside. Talking is about the best 'medicine' one can have. That is what VMs provide. By the way, VMs are not only Scientologists, but from all walks and religions. 145,000 VMs are all around the world. They also were invited to march in the parade for 911. An honor not just given to anyone. They were very much appreciated.
You critics will never learn that Scientology will not stop helping this planet improve.
All those that are looking that are not critics, check out scientologymyths.org and scientology.org if you want to learn why many support the movement.
38 months ago: Ya, go to the propaganda websites to get the truth!
38 months ago: BTW, you act as if chemicals are a bad thing. Someone obviously doesn't remeber Biology 101. The endocrine system in the body releases hormones (which are chemicals) to control growth, metabolism, tissue function, etc.

Secondly, if the scientologists want to really help the help the planet, I have a few helpful suggestions. For one, get rid of gold base and turn it into an ecological reserve. 2nd, instead of spending obscene amounts of money on their hotel/palace in Clearwater Florida, how about they donate it to charitys or buy basic supplies for people in 3rd world countrys. 3rd, since according to you the classes are so beneficial, make it free. Look at Christianity, Buddhism, Judiaism, etc. Their teachings are free.
Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
38 months ago: Yes, science is unreliable but cult propaganda couldn't possibly be wrong...

38 months ago: Hubbard advised that "using his minister's card, an auditor need only barge into any non-sectarian hospital, get permission to visit the wards from the superintendent, mentioning nothing about processing but only about taking care of people's souls."[11] The primary objective was simply to recruit more members for Scientology: "Some small percentage of the persons visited or their families will turn up in his group. Thus he will build a group and naturally from that group he will get a great many individual preclears."[10] This was, however, not how the program was to be presented to the general public: "A great many miracles will follow in his wake and he is later to become a subject of the press himself. However, in handling the press we should simply say that it is a mission of the Church to assist those who are in need of assistance."[11]

The Volunteer Ministers program is also intended to operate as a recruitment activity. As Hubbard puts it,

As the benefits of the Volunteer Minister program begin to spread throughout the society, a rank and file of people that have been helped will begin to accumulate. These people will begin to feed into missions and Churches of Scientology from wherever the Volunteer Minister has been at work. [3]

Wikipedia has sources at bottom. That pretty much says it all.
38 months ago: Lol Russia loves Vulture Ministires:

In Russia, after the Beslan school hostage crisis tragedy in 2004, the Health Ministry ordered Scientologists out of the area, saying "that various psychological tactics the groups use, including what it called hypnosis, may be harmful not only for adults, but for children that have already suffered severe mental shock."[24][25]

Again wikipedia with links to actual sources at the bottom.
38 months ago: HA, even scientologists know what they are doing is a charade

Paul Fletcher, director of the London branch of CCHR and Stefania Cisco, a Director of Special Affairs for Scientology, admitted to an undercover BBC reporter that the purpose of the volunteer ministeres was to keep the psychiatists away, and called this "spiritual security".[4][28]

Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
38 months ago: "All those that are looking that are not critics, check out scientologymyths.org and scientology.org if you want to learn why many support the movement."

Yes, scientology wants nothing to do with your critical thinking abilities. Leave them at home or you can't play the game.

Darnit, I just lost the game!
38 months ago: No, you didn't lose the game, evil dead aliens leaching off of your sould made you lose the game. DAMN YOU EVIL SPACE PSYCHIATRISTS!!!
Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
38 months ago: Apparently you don't know the rules of the game. Please see http://backseatgaming.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/the_game.jpg

38 months ago: I like this game. If you play the game for 1 year without losing, do you get an achievement?
Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
38 months ago: I have no idea, no one I know has ever avoided losing for that long, but I'll be sure and let you know if I ever get that far!
38 months ago: lol ok.
38 months ago: dangerranger

You are challenging me to overcome your lack of knowledge with my knowledge, all the while strongly resisting any gain in knowledge.

Knowledge of the Assists, can only make you more capable, not less capable. If you don't want to have more knowledge, you don't have to learn about the Assists. You probably don't know how to make drunk people sober, or how to alleviate radiation, or how to help people to come to present time. Thankfully, not everyone is like that.

Most people want to help. That's what Volunteer Ministers are about.
Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
38 months ago: "You probably don't know how to ... alleviate radiation..."

I'm a graduate of the United States Navy's Nuclear Field 'A' School and Naval Nuclear Power School and I have no doubt that you have no idea how to "alleviate radiation."

Prove me wrong. Please. Post one citation to a peer reviewed, scientific/medical study that proves any kind of Scientology Assist or other Scientology service can "alleviate radiation." Can you define "alleviate radiation"? Can you even define "radiation"?

You have just taken a dive from bizarre and unprovable claims to the positively absurd!
38 months ago: Chef

You can check out the links if you want to know more.

Does your library have a copy of "All About Radiation"? It's a book written by a nuclear physicist and a medical doctor and will provide you with the science you are looking for.
Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
38 months ago: No that is a book written by L. Ron Hubbard, who never scored higher than a D in his college science courses. In any case, I have read that book, and it details not a single scientific (or medically acceptable for that matter) study, nor was it or the data it is supposedly based on (said data is not provided in the book or other pubs by the CoS) submitted to a peer review process.

Again I ask you to post one citation to a peer reviewed, scientific/medical study that proves any kind of Scientology Assist or other Scientology service can "alleviate radiation.
38 months ago: Chef

"Rehabilitation of a Chernobyl Affected Population Using a Detoxification Method", A.F. Tsyb, E.M. Parshkov, J. Barnes, V.V. Yarzutkin, N.V. Vorontsov, and V.I. Dedov is a scientific, medically accepted study.

So, when you've tracked that down and read it, you will have overcome your resistance to being a Volunteer Minister, yes?

Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
38 months ago: No, I probably won't be donning a yellow t-shirt, but if I can find this study and verify that it does indeed scientifically back up your claim that Volunteer Ministers can "alleviate radiation" I will state so publically.
Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
38 months ago: Also presuming it has been submitted to peer review of course, but that should go without saying.
Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
38 months ago: A: NO CONTROL GROUP
B: "While Cesium-137 was reliably detected in the sweat of all the patients, an evident acceleration of Cesium-137 elimination was not found."
C: The only positive result of the study: a "positive change in the psychoemotional status of the program participants."

Conclusion: The program did little or nothing to alleviate the radiation, but it did lead to participants (again not no control group) to express improved emotional (ie: subjective) feelings.

The report you have cited actually damages your claim.

Got another?
Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
38 months ago: parenthesis in 2nd para. should read (again its got no control group) not (again not no control group)
38 months ago: Lol Jack, did you see what happened there. You bluffed, Chef called BS, and now you look like an **** for it.
38 months ago: Also Jack I see that you responded to the first part of my statements about you not answering my questions, but you seem to have no commentary about Hubbard himself declaring that the whole thing was a scheme to exploit ppl. Don't worry though, i don't really expect you to respond to this at this point neither.

Also, you make drunk ppl sober by giving them something to eat, a nap, and maybe some hangover pills. I am not really sure if i will ever need to know how to alleviate radiation except by telling ppl to stay the hell away from things emitting it. And i can help ppl come to present time by showing them a clock. That or counsel them, talk to them, get their mind on their matter, help them gather their wits, be a friend, get them food water, a blanket. It doesn't take that much other than some common sense and to be a human to help someone "come to present"
Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
38 months ago: So Jack, does this mean you are gonna take your yellow VM t-shirt off now, or do you have another scientific peer reviewed report for me to shred first?
Mecca  Anon
Mecca Anon
Clearwater, FL
38 months ago:
http://www.groupsrv.com/religion/about67819.html
An interesting article about the VMs.

This pattern gets repeated ad nauseam. VMs show up, they distribute supplies that somone else brings. They tell people about Detox and tell people how they can cure them using Dianetics. All of this at the expense of the VMs themselves! You even buy the yellow tee shirts!

A pretty sweet scam I think. The VMs show the colors and spout nonsense about Scientology to vulnerable people. They give away supplies the National Guard brings. People join and Scientology makes more money.

Tonight, down the street from the Ft Harrison hotel in Clearwater there were about twenty homeless people making their way the best they can. Not a yellow tent in sight. Why is that?
Frederick
Frederick
Canada
38 months ago: "They help their fellow men and women by restoring purpose, truth and spiritual values." That's the key line isn't it? People in disaster sites don't need scientology's spiritual values.

In fact, scientologists could use some spiritual values themselves.

I have a book right in front of me written by Hubbard called "All about Radiation". It claims on the cover to be written by a nuclear Physicist and a Medical Doctor. What a hideous lie. This is probably where you get your information on how to alleviate the effects of nuclear radiation.
Gregory
Gregory
Beverly Hills, CA
38 months ago: To a person on the outside looking in, because of anonymous, Scientology looks unbelievable. The amount of criminal activity that is claimed and the secrecy is tremedous. I had to see it for myself, so I went to the library and picked up some actual Scientology books. I started with Dianetics and New Slant on Life. Well, I really enjoyed them and found some very useful information. I then went into a Church of Scientology to know more and perhaps do some auditing. I was given a free introductory session with Dianetics and I was blown away. I resolved a issue that I had for years. I found myself recalling a car accident that I had 15 years ago. I started to recall everything, including the pain that I had in my shoulders and neck. At the end of the session I felt a calming feeling in my shoulders and neck and the numbing pain was gone. Anyway, there is something in Scientology for me. But for all those that are looking at it and cant believe all that the critics are saying, I just have one thing to say...Find out for yourself if you are really interested in knowing the truth.
38 months ago: Gregory, the issue is not if Scientology worked for you. I'm sure people out there claim worshiping the corn god helped solved their marital problems. The issue is that VM 1st) Exploits a neutrol ground to spread scientology.
2nd) 9 times out of 10, does not provide actual help, they only provide scientology brochures.
3rd) Get in the way of better trained medical professionals. Yes, the other professionals I'm talking about went through certification classes that were based on science and not unproven techniques. Now you can claim that they do not know how to "alleviate radiation" but as you can see for yourself (look above at Chef Xenu) niether do scientologists.


Also Gregory, your story sounds a little to Hallmark-y if you know what I'm saying. No one likes scientology internet handlers, I hope you know that. Shoot, there seem to be less and less internet handlers these days, economy must be hitting you guys bad.
Mecca  Anon
Mecca Anon
Clearwater, FL
38 months ago: "because of anonymous, Scientology looks unbelievable. The amount of criminal activity that is claimed and the secrecy is tremedous. I had to see it for myself, so I went to the library and picked up some actual Scientology books."



Scientology looked unbelievable long before Anonymous came on the scene The amount of criminal activity is well documented and the secrecy of the organization is well known (pun intended.)



It didn't just look unbelievable, it was and it is unbelievable, just like your story!

But I dare anyone, go down to your local public library today! Check out some Scientology books! I recommend “What is Scientology” or if you are really adventurous, try that seminal nineteen sixties thriller, “Dianetics.” Go on! Read it. By the fourth or fifth made -up “case study” of people punching each other and force-aborting fetuses you will begin to understand how far afield Scientology has become. And this is just a beginning book.

I dare any pro Scientology advocate to make the same offer for people to read “A piece of Blue Sky” or “The Scandal of Scientology.” I want people to read your books O' Scientology members. I want them to see you as you really are. There is no reason to hide the truth.

There is a saying in the critical community about Scientology, “it's far worse than your think.” My version goes like, “it's far worse than you can imagine.”
Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
38 months ago: It is also interesting to note that websites critical of the CoS almost ALWAYS provide links to the main, official Corporation of Scientology websites. They also provide citations from the works (both printed and recorded) of Lafayette Ronald Hubbard, so you can check their claims at larger public or university libraries (most small town libraries don't have room for very much Corporation of Scientology publications).

Pro-scientology websites, however, will never link to any website with information critical of the Corporation. They will also not give you citations to the published work critical scholarship, even when they slander the names of those writers.

The critics are obviously not at all afraid of their readers being fully informed, but as I have said before: the cult wants you to leave your critical thinking skills at home, or you can't play their game.
38 months ago: In this post:

Scientology Critics 1, Scientology 0
38 months ago: Number of new Volunteer Ministers since my last post: 100s.
38 months ago: Number of lives ruined by Scientology since my last post: 100s.
38 months ago: Do OSA know that you're posting all this stuff on the internet, "Jack"? My understanding is that interacting with PTS/SP's is out-ethics. I also doubt that they'd be impressed with the fact that your ravings about Scientology appear to be atttracting way more criticism than support here.

I'll assume if we don't hear from you for a while that you're in RPF. Good luck with that.
38 months ago: Mhmm.. I want to just make a couple of points here...

A: you realistically cannot "alleviate radiation", otherwise, we wouldnt really be worried too much about nuclear power, and there would be no massive issues if people were exposed to radiation because we would just speed up the removal process, radiation is damn hard to get out of your system, especially when said radiation is alpha...

B: Drunk people -> Sober people..., yeah, Scotsman here, and heres how you cure that. Honey, whiskey and a placebo, mix it in a cup and make them drink it, suddenly they feel MUCH better. Oh, and a swift clout usually helps.

C: And finally.. the "how to help people to come to present time". Its called talking, make them realise what the **** just happened, which may or may not require smacking them a couple times to make them see sense.

Thats all for the scottish input for now, see you when you next make a moronic comment...
37 months ago: Actually, proof is in the results. This is how science works, do you see? You connect your battery and the bulb lights but burns out. You try a different thing, again and again until your bulb works. Edison did real well with this method. Proof is in results. What Xenu persists in asking for is other people's opinion about Scientology results. Which implies an inability to observe results. But proof is in results, whether those results are rewritten 1000 times or no times.
Mecca  Anon
Mecca Anon
Clearwater, FL
37 months ago: Um.. no that is not how science works. You don't make some artifice work by changing the environment and just call it science.

Science (or the scientific method) is nothing more than an error filtering process using observation and sometimes, experimentation. One method is to come up with a hypothesis like say - "people consistently remember events when they are not awake." Then you set about experimenting your hypothesis until it is satisfactorily proven or falsified. (BTW, this basic notion of Scientology was actually studied scientifically on at lease one occasion and was falsified.) I.E. "A scientific study from 1958, conducted with the cooperation of the Dianetic Research Foundation in Los Angeles, showed that auditing was unable to retrieve an engram. The researchers tried to deliberately create an engram by pinching the unconcious subject while reading aloud from a book. Despite more than 30 hours of auditing by several certified auditors, the engram was never retrieved." (not sure where this is referenced though.)
http://www.scientology-lies.com/faq/teachings/scientology-teachings.html

One of the key attributes of science is reproducible results which arguably are quite lacking in any discussion about the "science" of Scientology.
37 months ago: "Actually, proof is in the results."

Exactly. Scientology says that if you follow it, you will gain superpowers, you will not get sick, and you will be able to detect the trustworthiness in others.

Show me some results por favor.
37 months ago: That's right, Mecca Anon. Where science requires observation of inanimate objects, to produce reliable results. Those results repeatable again and again, in different locations. Science observes results.

Scientology's efforts are toward improving an individual's life. How can you measure an improvement? What instrument says "oh .. he's doing this well", and then next month says "oh .. he's doing a little worse or doing a little better". We don't have instruments like that. We don't even know what to measure, exactly.

And then too, there are Scientology's methods. They require communication. The methods' central, key element is communication between auditor and auditee. And we have no instruments that measure an effective communication, compare it to an ineffective communication, and read out a number we can record. So, we're left with a difficulty. Scientific method isn't easily applied to Scientology's methods. For some, this might be a big stopping point. For others, a sense of adventure and curiosity might be more important.
37 months ago: ^^^^Lol, terryeo couldn't find results for me.


"Scientific method isn't easily applied to Scientology's methods."

So the method, that was made up to ascertain concrete knowledge and information from our world, the method derived to answer the most mudane to the most profound questions, can't be used in scientology?

If science doesn't work in your religion, maybe you should stop calling yourself "SCIENtology."

I know "scien" is a greek/latin root for something but in this day to day world, you give off the image of being scientifically based by calling yourself that.

Call yourself "Pseudoscientology." Then you guys will be less crazy.
Mecca  Anon
Mecca Anon
Clearwater, FL
37 months ago: "That's right, Mecca Anon. Where science requires observation of inanimate objects, to produce reliable results. Those results repeatable again and again, in different locations. Science observes results."

Not exactly, science does not require observation of inanimate objects alone, there are many fields which deal with plants and animals. Science also does not observe results (or anything else for that matter.) It is a process.


"Scientology's efforts are toward improving an individual's life. How can you measure an improvement? What instrument says "oh .. he's doing this well", and then next month says "oh .. he's doing a little worse or doing a little better". We don't have instruments like that. We don't even know what to measure, exactly. "

Than what is the point? If you have no rubric for measuring progress, if you have no way to ascertain that your courses work at all (other than coursed testimonials,) Why would anyone think Scientology methods work at all?



Louanne
Louanne
Los Angeles, CA
33 months ago: Jack H Remington is a troll, not a scientologist. He utterly fails to trick a real Scientology member.

- L

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