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Too Much Energy?

Posted 6 months ago|8 comments|327 views
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Altruist
Eugene, OR
Washington State has so much renewable energy that during storms when both their hydro-power and their wind power is producing maximum power, they have to shut down all of the fossil fuel plants or the excess power will result in a blackout.

During the "June 2010 emergency, when a severe storm whipped through the region. The transmission network had so much power that the agency turned off all its fossil fuel generation, gave electricity away to neighboring networks and even told the system's only nuclear plant to slash its production by 78 percent, a highly unusual step. " http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/05/busine...

To store excess power temporarily the utilities are providing 100 Gallon water heaters and electric heaters to heat ceramic bricks which can store the heat until it can be used later.

Now a solution to the problem of excess energy might be coming from Texas. They have built a huge 4 megawatt Sodium Sulfur battery. environmental costs, so power companies expect an exponential increase in battery use within 5 years. http://www.power-technology.com/features...

Texas is using the battery to solve distribution problems but the same type of battery has now been made smaller and perfected so it is safe enough to put inside a single family home's basement.

Paired with the increasingly inexpensive and more efficient photovoltaic solar panels, the system could provide homeowners with 100% of their power. But when hooked up to a utility systems power grid, it could also provide storage for the utility to prevent blackouts and brownouts. http://solar.calfinder.com/blog/products...

The traditional energy companies have always said that renewable energy was not practical because solar and wind are not constant. Now with battery storage there may be less justification for dirty fossil fuel or dangerous nuclear power.

Soon there may be no excuse for not covering all of the rooftops, wherever it is sunny, with solar panels, especially since air conditioner use is higher just when the maximum solar power is being generated.
UPDATE - 6 months ago
Batteries have much lower running costs - and environmental impacts - than natural gas and diesel-fuelled reserves.
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Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
6 months ago: I sure wish you could actually edit the piece after it is submitted. I shouldn't do these things so late.
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6 months ago: If you'd like to remove this one, just post the corrected one.

Good topic. As the technology advances, we'll see more.
6 months ago: Al.

You do everything late it seems.
6 months ago: Uh...Al.... consider something.

If the market calls for it, it will happen irrespective of what DC or want.

Instead of motivating people to use these batteries because of your algur global cooling...er..uh...warming...er..uh.. climate change nonsense, tell the people the batteries will lessen our dependence on foreign, ignert, don't shake their left hand, camel riding Arabs and despots.

You might help it along that way.
6 months ago: Now if we could get the other regions of the US/world to install wind and hydro and solar electricity production equipment in the abundant quantities that produce this over abundance of power, then we would be actually making progress toward reducing the constant use of fossil fuels.

Of course there is a problem, what would they do with all that (almost) free energy that would be produced 24/7? Not likely to give it away, especially when the norm is to charge double for it, to the customer that is..... they give it away to other producers who then sell it to consumers at a premium.
6 months ago: does 40 views need some help?
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
6 months ago: Six The problem is that China has already taken over as the leader in Renewable Energy. Because the fossil fuel industry owns the Congress, they get 20 times what renewables get, so All of those green jobs will be going to China, Germany, Japan, Korea and many other nations who are making investments in the future. The right wing here wants to take us back to the 19th century.

Today there are still tens of thousands without power on the East Coast because of an early snow storm.

You can go down to Harbor Freight and get some solar panels for $150 and with a few batteries you could at least have lights at night, and be able to charge your phones and computers. Use a camp stove to cook, your wood stove to heat, and haul your refrigerator outside and you would survive quite well without power.

Soon it will be profitable to get off the grid or force them to pay you for generating and storing the utilities power.
6 months ago: Harbor Freight is not where I buy things like that! For $150 you won't get much more than a cell phone charger. I've don't the math on solar and some on wind and some on hydro. If I had the $$$ to invest in the equipment, I would (but not from Harbor Freight).

As for surviving without grid power, well, it's a nice idea and to a point I already do, but cutting wood for a wood stove is physically demanding work and if you have no land to grow the wood, you have to beg or buy it (I have land but am physically disabled so cutting and hauling is difficult).

The laws will have to be changed in this state before the power company will pay a dime for excess power, they just count it off what you use or zero you out each month.

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