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Sorry guys, have had a drink for the first time in 20 years

Posted 17 months ago|24 comments|734 views
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Paper Tiger
England
What can i say?

I aman acohlic it is the fist drink in twetynyears. There is no excuse but the devil caught me unawares. I am so sorry my dear friends, I amashamed
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17 months ago: hope all is well with you.
Out Of The Box
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17 months ago: Today is a new day. Yesterday cannot be changed. No need for apologies.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
17 months ago: Why are you asking for forgiveness?

You let something get to you and you lost control. You are human and need to learn that sh--t happens.

But learning how to wipe away your problems is a good sign.

Do it and get on with your life.

And stop apologizing!

I tell it like it is, I pull no punches, tell no lies, and I am as I am

THE ONE AND ONLY RONBOT HUNTER
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Paper Tiger
Paper Tiger
England
17 months ago: Thank you ronbot

I have gone to the shop and bought more drink. I will beat this, but not today
Paper Tiger
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England
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England
17 months ago: Hi ronbotman, gregoria, Out of the box.

Bless you for your concern.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
17 months ago: You will find that what can break you, can make you if you are a man enough.

I have beaten back pot, heroin, speed, uppers and downers aka = drug addiction, alcohol addiction, money wasting addiction, smoking addiction, stealing addiction, fighting addiction and many more.

I was the baddest bad boy in town.

Now I am clean and mean and never been beaten by anything. I conquered myself and conquered all my weaknesses.

I have beat back a life as hard as many have, and nothing can kill me anymore.

For I am the most stubborn bad boy in town.

I have never lost a fight, even against four white guys at the same time.

I was given orders to people at 2 years old and was obeyed even then.

If you let this sh--t little thing as little as it is beat you, then you are too weak.

Find the man in you now and go on and be a real strong man or else life will make you bend over more and shaft you in the butt.

BE A MAN AND TAKE HOLD OF YOUR LIFE!!!

NO EXCUSES!!!!!!

I tell it like it is, I pull no punches, tell no lies, and I am as I am

THE ONE AND ONLY RONBOT HUNTER
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED

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17 months ago: Moderation. Drink what you wish, when you wish, but learn to moderate it so that you can maintain control of your senses.

Many are alcoholics but don't know it, they maintain a certain level in their blood stream and function perfectly, even if it is one ounce a day.
scotmanster
scotmanster
17 months ago: If you are really an alcoholic then I suggest you do not try drinking in moderation.

Telling an alcoholic to drink in moderation is like telling a drug addict to only take drugs on holidays. Either way both are very serious illness that can affect you and your loved ones. Think about your loved ones and how you affected them in the past with alcoholism.

Simply put down the bottle and walk away from it. You did it for 20 years what is another 20 years? It should be a walk in the park because you already proved you can kick it.
17 months ago: I agree. If drinking in moderation were a CHOICE then it would be done already.

Alcoholism is a brain disease, not a moral problem. It is a health and medical issue. There are few other medical illnesses where we tell people not to treat themselves. Stigma and shame are the unfortunate social constructs build around substance addiction. Like all medical problems, you have to make a choice to get help, to get treatment, just as people with high cholesterol have to make life changes. Or how diabetics need insulin...usually alcoholics need abstinence.

If you were sober 20 then there was likely a build up before the relapse. If it was a sober 20 w/other recovering folks in your life then reach out. Go to your doctor. There are medications available now that help w/alcohol cravings that were not available 20 years ago. Times have changed and so has the alcohol. Take care of yourself. You are worth sobriety.
Paper Tiger
Paper Tiger
England
17 months ago: Hi Alex

I will not try to justify my reason for havind a drink. I just thought that it had been such a long time that maybe it would fun to drink with my friends. Having made so many appologies in that twenty years I thought my problem had gone Away

When we go out to lunch I have to make excuse, driving, getting up early tommorrow, a big day tommorrow, I had better not. I have belly ache. In fact depending what situation I am in I have to make a good reason to stop kind people wanting to buy me a beer.

There are a thousand reasons why I cannot have a drink and make the reason to fit the occassion. Their is only one reason against alcohol that I am an alcoholic.

The real reason for drinking I looked and found an excuse.

If anyone cannot understand the nightmare, then let me make their day.

Feel so ill.
17 months ago: Consider doing this, tell your friends the truth. No more excuses, no more lies. They might surprise you with how helpful it is to know that you have a problem and they can support your need to have fun and not drink alcohol while doing it.
Paper Tiger
Paper Tiger
England
17 months ago: Hi been dry two days
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scotmanster
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17 months ago: PT I was sincere with my reply. I do think you can kick it because you have kicked it in the past. I wish you well.
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markbyrn
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17 months ago: PT, was it anything specific that caused you to take a drink after 20 years of sobriety?
Paper Tiger
Paper Tiger
England
17 months ago: was it anything specific that caused you to take a drink after 20 years of sobriety?

No, I thought it would not be a problem, after all this time.
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17 months ago: PT, from the lack of coherent comments, you seem to be out of it, and not in a good way. Sleep it off and come back when you can think and respond to input from this bunch of semi-functional rabble. We won't lead you on, might pull your leg, but for the most part, what we say is valid advice.

As for the lack of agreement on my moderation comment, not all alcoholics are binge drinkers and moderation is what keeps them functional and many will never be declared alcoholics because they have learned to control their addiction with proper dosing of drink and food. Sure there are many who never learned to control it, and those are the ones who must avoid contact with it. I've found that denying all contact with something that can be harmful rather than learning to control the degree of contact can lead to devastating failure when moderation in contact leads to lifelong control of the problem. PT seems to be at the "devastating failure" point.
16 months ago: I say none of this argumentatively.
The problem with the moderation statement is that there are actually several different types of alcoholics--alpha, beta, gamma, etc., and they each have different attributes. Some drink once a year or every five and have devastating consequences. It's not about how much per se, but what happens, IF someone is an alcoholic. There are alcohol abusers who blur the line for society.

The real, true aspect of addiction, whether it be alcohol or drugs is that it neurologically alters the brain chemistry--alcoholism & addiction are brain diseases. There is alcoholism/addiction and its varying stages, similar to staging cancer, another deadly disease. There are many studies showing certain important proteins and neurochemicals missing or changed, as well as gray matter differences in the brain.

Addiction and control are counterintuitive. Just because a person doesn't get sh*tfaced drunk when they drink does not mean they are not an alcoholic.

We would never think to tell a person with other diseases to just learn moderation or to learn to control it. Someone with Asthma should just get a handle on their inability to occasionally breathe, and so forth.

I agree PT seems to be at the devastating failure point. I imagine it's similar to the devastation of finding out that your cancer is back after treatment and time...now PT must fight it just as hard as before.
17 months ago: Paper.

Is your drunkeness your excuse for the crude email you sent to me?
Paper Tiger
Paper Tiger
England
17 months ago: Re crude email

I can assure you redstate guy that drunkeness is no excuse for me sending you crude emails, Im sorry to have upset you.
16 months ago: Have you ever heard of Sandal Dust?

You did not upset me.
16 months ago: Paper, My last alcoholic drink was 23 years ago. I did not have official treatment but did utilize AA resources. I have not had alcohol available in my home since then, nor do I go to bars to "socialize" and drink soda.

You don't have to share with us what caused the slip, but, I hope you isolate it yourself and deal with it. Please let me know when you have mastered it, and the technique you used to quench it--even though I am 23 +, it could be my turn for the battle any day.

1 of many things I have going for me is--I really do not want my old lifestyle back; it definitely would not fit.
Paper Tiger
Paper Tiger
England
16 months ago: Re-Paper, My last alcoholic drink was 23 years ago

If you ever have to fight that terrible battle again, please contact me and I will fight it with you. Bless you for your lovely message.
Paper Tiger
Paper Tiger
England
16 months ago: I forgot to say that the guys in rantrave will be there to help you also. They helped me with their kindness and support.

They are mostly colonials but they have a good heart.

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