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I'm excited about it. I hope you are, too. It's like a trip to Disney, says Mr Ron Pollard, but it's much more than just that.

If you like spiritual planetary clearing with a touch of Disney you will love the super-massive, super-impressive, super-max, super-Mecca of Scientology. It's like a training academy for Super Heroes.

It's the Super Power Building in Clearwater, Florida, and soon it will be delivering Super Power. Super Power is L Ron Hubbard's Scientology Solution to Planetary Clearing.

At 170,000 square feet, the Super Power Building is a tremendous mass of MEST(matter, energy space and time). Of course, pure MEST is not of much interest to Operating Thetans, operating stably exterior with full perceptics. What's really special about the Super Power Building is the special spiritual rundowns that can only be delivered in this particular mass of MEST.

The Super Power Building will deliver a super fantastic series of rundowns that can be done on anyone, clear or not, Scientologist or not, unleashing the Super Power of a thetan. This puts thetans in a new realm of ability, enabling them to create a new world. Remember that a fully operating thetan can move matter and control others from a distance; create his own universe; create illusions perceivable by others at will; and have no need or desire for a living human body, just like L Ron Hubbard himself.

As a philospher once said “ to be willing to leave [our flesh body] without any proof of the next level's existence, other than what we have come to know: that we have nothing to fear; that we are in good keeping; that we can leave the body that we're in and be that soul, that identity, which totally survives that separation[...].”

Truly, Super Power will take humanity to the next level of existence.

Super Power is like the Mecca of the spiritual plane. Although non-Muslims are not legally allowed to enter the original Mecca, the Super Power Building is open to all religions. You don't have to be a Scientologist to donate to the construction of the building, or to receive services there. Christians, Muslims, Jews and all others are welcome.

What will it cost to get Super Power?

Because close-on $200 million has been raised by free charitable donations to construct the building, and much of the labor has been voluntary, the construction of the building has been achieved at no net cost. Since much of the ongoing labor and upkeep will be provided by substantially unpaid religious volunteers, the Super Power Rundowns may well be delivered at much less than the cost of visiting commercially-financed theme parks. It is truly a peoples' building, owned by all Scientologists.

What are the Super Power Rundowns?

Many of the Rundowns are still confidential, but some of the rides were designed by NASA. One outcome will be the fine tuning of one's theta perceptics. These aren't merely the sense impression that come through a body's sense organs, like in an animal, but direct perceptions through the immortal thetan. With this rundown a person can remember and improve the full list of the 57 perceptics, such as Time, Sight; Taste, Color, Depth; Solidity (barriers); Relative sizes (external); Sound; Pitch; Tone; Volume; Rhythm; Smell; Touch (pressure, friction, heat or cold and oiliness); Personal emotion; Endocrine states; Awareness of awareness; Personal size; Organic sensation (including hunger); Heartbeat; Blood circulation; Cellular and bacterial position; Gravitic (self and other weights); Motion of self; Motion (exterior); Body position; Joint position; Internal temperature; External temperature; Balance; Muscular tension; Saline content of self (body); Fields/magnetic; Time track motion; Physical energy (personal weariness, etc.); Self-determinism; Moisture (self); Sound direction; Emotional state of other organs; Personal position on the tone scale; Affinity (self and others); Communication (self and others); Reality (self and others); Emotional state of groups; Compass direction; Level of consciousness; Pain; Perception of conclusions (past and present); Perception of computation (past and present); Perception of imagination (past and present); Perception of having perceived (past and present); Awareness of not knowing; Awareness of importance, unimportance; Awareness of others; Awareness of location and placement (masses, spaces and location itself); Perception of appetite; and Kinesthesia. This is a great help, if you are interested in those sorts of things. With theta perceptics, one can, for example have perfect vision without regardless of the physical condition or existence of one's eyes.

When will it open?

Pretty soon, providing that donations continue to arrive. Because the Super Power Builing has taken a long time to complete, it has invited comparison to the Ryugyon Hotel, the Winchester Mystery House, and 'Szkieletor'. By any comparison, the Super Power Building comes off favorably, not least because it will soon be completed, whereas those other buildings have not been completed, and may never find a profitable use. Super Power will be an absolute boondoggle to Clearwater, a boon to tourism, and a boon to planetary clearing. The only question is, “Will the building be big enough for the crowds to come?”
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Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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33 months ago: I think you said it all.

"Super Power will be an absolute boondoggle to Clearwater,"


Boondoggle (project), term for a scheme that wastes time and money
33 months ago: This is why you should not let spell checkers do their work unattended, OOTB. That should read "Super Power will be an absolute boon to Clearwater, a boon to tourism, and a boon to planetary clearing."
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
33 months ago: This is the greatest bull I have ever read!!!

To this day billions of dollars have been spent by Scientologists in a few decades and not one single scientologist can demonstrate one superpower or even a mini-power, and that includes the BIG GOD RON.

Now all of a sudden a super-building is being built to churn out SUPERMEN AND SUPERWOMEN.

But these super-powers will definitely be kept behind closed doors, where no one can see them or test them or prove them or see them in action, as is their habit in the past, present and will be so in the future.

What good is a super-hero if we can't see him/her in costume?

What good is a superman or superwoman if we won't be able to see him/her flying around killing SPs, as is the policy in Scientology?

Isn't that just too cute of them to hide the proof -- evidence ?!

If these superpowers are true ,why have they hid every single fantastic claim and refused to prove it, since the beginning of when their GOD discovered all of these natural physiological reactions listed by this RONBOT.

I will pay any RONBOT a thousand dollars if he/she can walk thru walls or show just one SUPERPOWER.

I dare you to prove it!!! Stop lying to the public in a desperate attempt to save the sinking ship called $cientology.

$cientology is failing as is proven by your un-provable fantastic fraudulent claims.

PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT! PROVE IT!

THE RONBOT HUNTER
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markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
33 months ago: I guess LRH was inspired by the legendary Stan Lee when he wrote his sci-fi novels, but selling the dime store fiction as religion doesn't make it anymore real than Spiderman, Wolverine, and the Hulk.

The only power that Scientology has is the ability to convince gullible people to enslave themselves to the sci-fi cult but that's hardly a superpower; as David Hannum regarding a PT Barnum hoax, there's a sucker born every minute.
33 months ago: Sorry. Bad spell checker again: "Ron Pollard" should read "Ron Pollack".
Frederick
Frederick
Canada
33 months ago: Sorry, Jack. I guess I can be quite a stiff sometime. Your posts are excellent.
33 months ago: TRH, to answer your questions:

"What good is a super-hero if we can't see him/her in costume? "

There will be costumes. They have been designed by fashion supremo Richard Tyler and are quite dramatic.

"What good is a superman or superwoman if we won't be able to see him/her flying around killing SPs, as is the policy in Scientology?"

Removing SPs from any position where they have the freedom to cause negative effects to Society does not necessarily involve killing them bodily.

"If these superpowers are true ,why have they hid every single fantastic claim and refused to prove it, since the beginning of when their GOD discovered all of these natural physiological reactions listed by this RONBOT."

Publicly demonstrating these powers like a circus act would be in poor taste and remove the mystery and solemnity, These demonstrations can be used for improper purposes, such as by Sonya Bianca, who claimed to be the first clear, but wasn't really because LRH had earlier secretly cleared people while working undercover in Hollywood as a 'swami'.

"I will pay any RONBOT a thousand dollars if he/she can walk thru walls or show just one SUPERPOWER."

People don't spend significant money on gaining these powers just to make one thousand dollars.
33 months ago: I truly appreciate your good will, Frederick.
33 months ago: Truly an excellent, and informative, post. I'm curious what TerryEO thinks of it. I know *I* would certainly travel to Clearwater if this building were ever actually completed as promised.
33 months ago: It is pleasing that people all over, even self-professed Anonymouses such as yourself, Anonymous Voice, are getting interested in taking advantage of Super Power for themselves. The Super Power building is really like a cathedral of Scientology. People should treat it just how they would treat the cathedral of any other denomination. Enter it respectfully, not shouting slogans. I hope you make it to Clearwater, try out some of the taxpayer-funded services and run-downs and see how you like them. Recommend it to others if you have wins. This may be a turning point.
33 months ago: Thank you for your comments, buy there are some inaccuracies in your post, Xluvr.

It's not the 'SP Building'. It's the 'Super Power Building'.

People will probably have to come to the opening in staggered groups of probably not more than 40,000 at a time.

I doubt that the 'smell-o-rama' as you call it will cost as much as you suggest. It's an often over-looked supersense, but it's just one small part of the Super Power Rundowns.

Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: "People don't spend significant money on gaining these powers just to make one thousand dollars."

Generally true... but what about 1 Million Dollars?

Recall that the "Amazing Randi" has offered a cool million to any scientologist that can in any way prove or demonstrate their powers in a controlled environment. To date, no takers.

And before we say that OT powers are meant for the individual and are not to be shared, we must recall that OT "wins" are/were regularly published and shared in scientology publications, including Hubbard's books (as examples). However, they have all been anecdotal and subjective at best. (I recall one, for instance, where a gentlemen attributed his lack of a motorcycle crash to his wife's powers. Another where a driver 'woke up' a truck driver that would have crashed in several hours, and offered, as proof, the fact that there was not a truck accident that day)

But, I do look forward to seeing this happen. Not because I'm looking forward to being proven right, but because of the possibility of being proven wrong! If they can do it, I want to see it, and I will rejoice for humanity if this is true. If it's not true... then I suppose we'll have to keep waiting, won't we?
33 months ago: It boggles the mind that people actually fall for this.

Do OTs really believe they have "powers"?
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: I'm still trying to find the sauce for NASA sharing technology with scientology. All I can find from NASA is a denial that the CoS helped them write their glossary, lol!
33 months ago: OT's aren't spending their hard-earned money for nothing, Gezabelle.

Mark Tomles, "Expanding on technology developed by NASA to train astronauts, it's now combined with everything else they never conceived of in terms of space."

The irony of course is that NASA was probably inspired by the discoveries of L Ron Hubbard, the very discoveries that allowed them to explore space and confirm what LRH had said, finding implant stations and the like.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: Jack- you may be right. But I hope you'll humor me and provide me with a non-scientologist website or source that will confirm what you claim? I recall at one time, if memory serves, that there is a claim that the super duper power building will be using technology developed by NASA. Is that in the same sense that I use NASA-developed technologies every day, such as lithium batteries, computer technologies, LEDs, etc?
33 months ago: I don't know about any non-scientologist sources, Mark Tomles. Why wouldn't you go to the official sources? They are the most reliable.

When you are using NASA developed technologies like lithium batteries etc, I assume you aren't using this MEST devices to train your theta perceptics. That's one difference.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: I did go to official sources, I searched NASA and other gov sites- no reference.

So, the question remains, what has NASA developed SPECIFICALLY to help train theta stuffs?
33 months ago: I meant official Scientology sources, Mark Tomles, not official NASA ones.

You'll have to await official announcements on your questions, or turn up to do the Perceptic Rundown yourself.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: Look at Google news for scientology news- most of the positive news items are from free press release sites, and give information that is denied by the other parties referenced. For example, scientology claims that they helped NASA write their glossary; NASA denies it. YHRI claims that they spoke/met at the UN; the UN denied it. scientology makes this claim, but NASA, at least, doesn't acknowledge it. With that track record, why not look for other more reliable sources?
33 months ago: You should go to the official Scientology site, rather than free press release sites which, as you have found, are full of lies.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
33 months ago: What is the average cost of getting cleared?

If it is of such importance to the planet, why isn't it free?

What is the planet being cleared of?
Is a Thetan a good thing?

Why doesn't my spell checker recognize "Thetan"?

Was Sherlock Holmes the first example of a cleared person, or would Jesus of Nazareth be a closer approximation?

I would really like to have super powers, but I just don't have the cash, could you help me out here?
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
33 months ago: Maybe instead of healthcare reform, we could just get Scientology reform, get the government to pay for it, and we wouldn't need doctors or insurance anymore.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: Who do you think is writing the free press releases? besides, I go to the source. If I told you that the CoS has written me a letter confirming everything that I've claimed and handing over management to me... wouldn't you check with them? And if they denied it, who would you believe?
33 months ago: OOTB, thank you for your questions.

"What is the average cost of getting cleared?"
This is a bit like asking what the average person's medical bill is going to be. $50,000 should do it in most cases, I would think. You could spend more, if you have it.


'If it is of such importance to the planet, why isn't it free?"
If it was free, people wouldn't value it so much and it would be hard to finance the highly trained auditing, ships, planes, buildings etc.


'What is the planet being cleared of?"
The planet is being cleared of counter-Scientology intentions and aberrant personality characteristics.

"Is a Thetan a good thing?"
A Thetan is not a thing, it is the creator of things. It used to be thought that body thetans were bad, but everyone has them. They have a small mass and we are them.

"Why doesn't my spell checker recognize "Thetan"?"
You might not be using a proper Dianetics and Scientology dictionary in your spell checker.

"Was Sherlock Holmes the first example of a cleared person, or would Jesus of Nazareth be a closer approximation?"
Jesus would be a closer approximation.

"I would really like to have super powers, but I just don't have the cash, could you help me out here?"
You could become a Scientology staff member or a member of the Sea Organization "The happiest people on the planet". This way you could get auditing, while putting ethics in on other people and the planet.
33 months ago: That's an excellent idea about healthcare, OOTB, but big pharma and the psychs are holding us all back,

Mark Tomles, the press releases might well be being written by psychs or criminals, for all I know.

"If I told you that the CoS has written me a letter confirming everything that I've claimed and handing over management to me... wouldn't you check with them? And if they denied it, who would you believe?"

I'm not following you. Are you claiming this?
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: No Jack, clearly now. It's a hypothetical. My point is, if I made a grand claim, would you take my word for is (calling me "source") or would you look any further?
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: correction: should ready "clearly not".
33 months ago: Well, if you were the ecclesiastical leader of Scientology, I would take your word for it.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: You're not hearing me, Jack. If I were NOT the ecclesiastical leader of Scientology, would you take my word for it solely for the reason that I am "source"
33 months ago: Wow! Something tells me that the salvation of a soul does not have a price. Help me out here OOTB. Refresh my memory.

"All these people gave their gifts out of their wealth; but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on"

Wonder how that would be accepted from a homeless person.
33 months ago: Obviously, you can't put a price on spiritual salvation. Scientology are more putting a tangible value on it than putting a price on it.

This article and comments are full of a lot of ignorant misinformation. Drop in to your local Church of Scientology for better information.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
33 months ago: Out of the Box
...Maybe instead of healthcare reform, we could just get Scientology reform, get the government to pay for it, and we wouldn't need doctors or insurance anymore...

Great suggestion! Scientology can take over the Department of Health & Human services, and Benny Hinn can be the Surgeon General. No more doctors, hospitals, or Big Pharma; just lay your hands on the TV while Benny Hinn cures all the ills, and Tom Cruise will clear out all the bad alien memories.
33 months ago: Scientology is a Church, not a fun parlor, or faith-healing tent. I suspect that very few people here have any reality on Scientology at all.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: Markbyrn- laugh all you want to, but I say put Uri Geller in charge of the Dept Of Transportation. If he can start broken wristwatches, imagine what he could do with your transportation system!
Wendy- would you be willing, please, to correct our misinformation?
33 months ago: Where to start Mark? Tom Cruise and Benny Hinn are not, I think, official representatives of Scientology.
33 months ago: . .. let alone Uri Geller.
33 months ago: Come on Wendy. Tom Cruise? Maybe you need to send him a certified letter with the restraining order.
33 months ago: Sure, he's a Scientologist, just like the rest of us. But he's an actor, not an official representative. Most Scientologists just live normal happy lives away from the media.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: Sigh, makes me miss Louanne. Wndy- no one claimed Benny Hinn or Uri Geller were scientologists- they are all ones that claim to be able to demonstrate super-natural or devine abilities.
33 months ago: Well you shouldn't be lumping them in with Scientology, unless you are trying to create a deceptive impression.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: Wendy- no one is lumping. It is merely illustrating a concept on claimed vs demonstrated abilities.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
33 months ago: Mark, yes, another great suggestion. We'll get Uri Geller to divine us all perpetual motion machines - energy crisis and global warming instantly solved!

Ohhh, how about we get Miss Cleo & the Psychic Friends Network to take over the CIA. Osama Bin Laden would be found yesterday and we'd shamam up all the terrorist war plans and locations psychically; boom shakalaka, war over dude! Peace out!
33 months ago: The article itself has some good points, but also a number of inaccuracies, unattributed quotes, an incorrect reference to "Ron Pollard", unsubstantiated figures and a lack of references.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: mb- I think we have ourselves a plan here :)
If we can throw in Chuck Norris somehow, we'd be unstoppable!

Wendy- once again- please feel free to point out any of these errors :)
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
33 months ago: So, does a homeless guy have a chance at salvation?

What is the difference between tangible value, and price? I mean, you used the word tangible, as in touchable, measurable, from the outside, rather than intrinsic value, which would be value ascertained from within.
33 months ago: A homeless guy could become a staff member and get his own auditing along the way. Many staff live in Church dorms, and so are not homeless. Once he started he would probably become very up-stat and not have problems getting the resources needed.

The price is the dollar cost and the tangible value is the perception of worth of the final product. The value to the preclear is, of course, the intrinsic value to the preclear, who will see that it is worth more than mere money.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
33 months ago: ...Tom Cruise and Benny Hinn are not, I think, official representatives of Scientology...

Come on Wendy, you know Tom Cruise stands at the right hand of David Miscavige - if you don't believe me, watch this video of Tom and David togeather at the 2004 IAS festivities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTKxtMGcvAY

It gave me shingles, err tingles to watch Tom Cruise smartly salute General Miscavige and David returns the salute with a fervid hug and multiple hand pumps.

Yes, I do know that Benny Hinn is not a Scientologist, but just think if you could convert him over and get rid of that bad god memory. Benny Hinn knows how to play massive audiences like a fine tuned fiddle and while he's a proven charlatan, he can still do a collection plate shakedown with the best of them. With Benny around, you could charge the gullible converts both before and after they receive the tech.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
33 months ago: So we are operating on the church's perception of the worth of the product, or am I free to declare myself clear when I reach the the monetary limit I place upon said clearing?

Suppose I have a family to support, and cannot dedicate my life to service, but yet have a strong desire to become cleared?
33 months ago: The state of Clear is certified by the Church. It's not strictly linked to expenditure, but to results.

People can make their own choices about whether becoming Clear is more important to them than other things they could spend their time on. Many people achieve it while supporting a family.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
33 months ago: ...A homeless guy could become a staff member...

Drugged up homeless dude walks into the org and they make him a staff member? You think we just fell off the turnip truck?

33 months ago: No one mentioned drugs.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: No thank you, Wendy, but it's sweet of you to offer! :)
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: Are you saying that one is able to, for instance, support a family while working two jobs (as many do these days), live their family life, and still have time to be a staff member to such a degree that they are able to climb that bridge?
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
33 months ago: ...No one mentioned drugs...

I get it now. Your definition of homeless is a drug free college graduate looking for work & a place to stay; so you offer him a billion year slave contract.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
33 months ago: So if my decision to become clear is more important to me than providing for my family, as I don't have the funds to do both, the Church would support my decision?
33 months ago: I don't know. You could apply. Your family could, too.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
33 months ago: What would my six and nine year old children's duties be, if accepted? Have you ever heard of such a thing as a whole family being accepted together?
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: And if my family didn't want to join?
We're not badgering, Wendy, but you surely realize that these are very possible and realistic scenarios.
In fact, it can all be the same scenario:
A man is struggling with finances and trying to feed his family. He takes a scientology stress test and is told that they can help him. Accepting the invitation to visit the local org, he receives information that leads him to believe that he has great potential that scientology can help him unlock. But, he has no disposable income, and his family does not want to go on staff (or, perhaps, cannot). What can this man do? Is he unable to get what he has been told he needs?
33 months ago: No one is forced to become a staff member. I can't answer all these hypothetical questions. Try http://www.scientologyhandbook.org/SH14_3.HTM
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
33 months ago: Out of The Box,

You don't need to throw your family under the bus for Scientology - just download the OT docs for free. The cult has tried to get them removed but censoring the Internet is like playing whack-a-mole.

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Church_of_Scientology_collected_Operating_Thetan_documents
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: Thank you, Wendy. It has been a pleasure speaking with you. I hope that you will consider these questions (and other similar ones) and re-engage when you feel ready to do so.
Thank you for indulging our rather probing questions, my dear.
33 months ago: Markbryn, this copyright theft you are advocating is like stealing a bible, only the bible you are stealing may be inaccurate and have viruses.
33 months ago: Good night, all.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: But you don't have to steal a bible- they give those away for free :)
And, bear in mind, the CoS confirmed those stolen documents to be their text in subsequent court cases. As far as virusii, pdf virusii are rare, and my multiple levels of scanners do a decent job :)
33 months ago: So then, once again the person who posts as Jack Rimmington has displayed his lack of understanding. Oh hum.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
33 months ago: But Mb, it ain't official without the plaque and the tee-shirt. That would be like ripping the top off the cap'n crunch decoder ring and just writing the code down on a scrap of ordinary paper. It just wouldn't be the same.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
33 months ago: Wendy, you're right - what I thinking? Folks, whatever you do, don't download those copyrighted Scientology documents. If you read them, you'll almost certainly get a virus that impairs your cerebral cortex.

But Wendy, why do other religions make their Bibles freely available online (copyrights notwithstanding) while Scientology employs legal goons to keep their holy texts a deep dark secret? I guess it really is all about the cash, isn't it?
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
33 months ago: Besides that, my wife says I spend way too much time "saving the world" as it is, sitting here at this hunk of circuits. I just can't see her letting me get a new hobby at this time.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
33 months ago: Well it's probably like my old man taught me early, you appreciate something more that you had to earn the money for yourself. You know how those Muslims are, that lay flat on their face five times a day, they don't really appreciate their religion, and those Christians who swear off earthly pleasures, and pray incessantly to follow Jesus, they don't appreciate the free gift of their salvation. The Catholics, now, they have a handle on it. You can buy your salvation, or a loved one's, with a few candles, or the right donation.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
33 months ago: Out of the Box,
Speaking of the Vatican, here's Penn & Teller's take:

http://watchtvshowsonlinefree.info/penn-teller-bull****-s07e10
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
33 months ago: Out of the Box,
ummm, i had to tinyurl the link due to an apparent vulgarism in the link name O.o

http://tinyurl.com/lt6ldh
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: "So then, once again the person who posts as Jack Rimmington has displayed his lack of understanding."

Perhaps, Terryeo, you would be willing to enlighten us?
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
33 months ago: "So then, once again the person who posts as Jack Rimmington has displayed his lack of understanding."

As Mark says, Terryeo, you would be willing to enlighten us?

Don't be such a tease Terryeo.

DeanFox
DeanFox
England
33 months ago: WendySM: "A homeless guy could become a staff member and get his own auditing along the way. Many staff live in Church dorms, and so are not homeless. Once he started he would probably become very up-stat and not have problems getting the resources needed."

WendySM, you clearly are not aware of any examples otherwise you would not speak so hypothetically, you would say:

"Homeless people have been known to become staff members and get their own auditing along the way. Many staff live in Church dorms, and so are not homeless. Once started they usually become very up-stat and so don't have problems getting the resources needed."

I cannot compare my knowledge of the backgrounds of staff with yours since I don't know yours. I can say that I know the backgrounds of a few hundred staff and ex staff members and I don't have any examples of homeless people becoming staff members and going on to be upstat as you suggest either.

Not saying this has never happened, not saying this is impossible but it is clearly a rare event. This is because the mechanics of the *organisation's staff recruitment stack the odds against this happening. (*the organisation calling itself the church of scientology)
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
33 months ago: WendySM, on Tom Cruise not being an "official" representative of the church of scientology. Isn't it the duty of every single member and associate of the organisation calling itself the church of scientology to represent the organisation? David Miscavige has stated this in various ways in a number of his speeches to date so it must be. Ergo, all members and associates, you and Tom Cruise included, are official representatives the organisation as mandated by David Miscavige.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
32 months ago: ...Sure, he's (Tom Criuse) a Scientologist, just like the rest of us. But he's an actor, not an official representative..."

According to David Miscavage, Mr Tom Cruise is not only the most dedicated Scientologist that he knows but he has "advanced Scientology on a fully epic scale" according to International Scientology News, issue 29: December 2004, pp. 40-43. To quote the official periodical of Scientology,

"The story of Mr. Tom Cruise, IAS Freedom Medal of Valor winner..

From spearheading LRH Purification tech into the heart of human disaster, to changing the face of education at national levels, from eradicating the very thought of psychiatry, to full global dissemination, it is factually a tale of towering scope, and a litany of accomplishments which would take a magazine in itself to catalog.

But if there is one suitable measure of it all, it is in the startling numbers that gauge his impact:

Through print, television, radio and personal contact-the tally of those he's reached with study tech now tops 250 million people.

More than 50 million people educated on the native evil of psychiatry and why it must be outlawed.

Across 90 nations, 5,000 people hear his word of Scientology -- every hour.

Every minute, of every hour-someone reaches for LRH technology, or steps onto The Bridge, simply because they know Tom Cruise is a Scientologist."

WOW!! Ever and every year, Mr 'just another member' Cruise is proselytizing a half a million people around the globe not to mention the 250 million he's already reached. If he's not an official rep, he's just the Mohandas Gandhi, Moses, Prophet Muhammad, and Jesus Christ of Scientology all rolled into one.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/797d7df80276ee69
32 months ago: I have superpowers! I get into a room and press a button, I wait a minute or two and then get out of the room. Suddenly, I am 500 feet higher than I was and I only walked 3 feet into the room and 3 feet out.
I can also travel 50 miles in less than an hour, sitting in a seat. (I have to pay the driver a few bucks..)
And I am not a $cilon.........
32 months ago: "According to David Miscavage, Mr Tom Cruise is not only the most dedicated Scientologist that he knows but he has "advanced Scientology on a fully epic scale" "

Wow, he progressed a bunch of made-up bullsh*t to the next level of craziness. I'm so impressed. No really. I am. Like doing summersaults I am so impressed. Truly.
bob dobbs
bob dobbs
Geneseo, NY
32 months ago: This building has taken, almost literally, 4 quadrillion years to
build, so how can it not be impressive when it's finally finished?

It'll be cool to see demonstrations of the Purification Rundown
where people imbibe or inhale shards of broken glass and then
sweat them out of their skin's pores, just like Scientology claims to have happened for some of the 9/11 firefighters.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
32 months ago: These poor little wind-up brain-washed Ronbots are having a field-day with powers that are only in their head as dreams of grandeur.
The fool that calls himself "Jack H Remington" wants you to accept these foolish and poor minded explanations of why the Cult must keep these superpowers as mysteries:
" Publicly demonstrating these powers like a circus act would be in poor taste and remove the mystery and solemnity, These demonstrations can be used for improper purposes, such as by Sonya Bianca, who claimed to be the first clear, but wasn't really because LRH had earlier secretly cleared people while working undercover in Hollywood as a 'swami'."
$cientology has made too many claims of super-powers and super-abilities for too many decades.
Isn't about time you quit the BULL and prove it?
No sane person will believe you, except other brain-washed Ronbots.
If you are going to make any more claims how about this one:
"A lie is not a lie if it can be proven to be true."
If you can't prove it, then know that you and your CULT are known to the world as a scam, a fraud and bunch of loonies.

THE RONBOT HUNTER
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bob dobbs
bob dobbs
Geneseo, NY
32 months ago: I'd ask if every window on that building is supposed to represent
a Scientology front-group but from looking at that picture it does'nt appear that there would be enough windows.
32 months ago: "So then, once again the person who posts as Jack Rimmington [sic] has displayed his lack of understanding. Oh hum. " - Terryeo.

In the absence of any justification, I guess we will just have to take your word for it. Yes, the word of someone who doesn't seem to know whether Scientology is a therapy or not.

It seems you will come sniping in with a random comment that you won't or can't justify, but presumably at least *someone* is supposed to accept at face value. Unless, of course, you are just posting for vanity, just to say that you have special understanding. If so, good for you.

Your modus operandi might make sense if, in your own mind, you saw yourself as the emperor of all good understanding for all people, and so there would be no need to explain your proclamations or instructions. TRH and others call what I say "b*ll", just like you seem to be saying, but they have the integrity to try to explain exactly where their views specifically differ, rather than just obfuscating.

Xluvr, I don't have any information on what you are suggesting, which is obviously ludicrous. However, if it should be named in honor of anyone "The Hubbard Complex" or "The Miscavige Complex" sound good to me.

bob dobbs, actually, I understand that there are significances to the precise dimensions of the building, the number of windows, the placement of the staircases, and the number of rooms. It's called architecture.
32 months ago: Dangerranger, Tom Cruise is a recipient and promoter of Scientology. He doesn't have anything to do with the content - that's all thanks to Mr Hubbard and Mr Miscavige, and Scientology staff.

A while back, people were saying that Mr Cruise was acting crazy. Well now they are saying he's not. What's the difference? Continuing Scientology study.
32 months ago: So....anyone watch any good pron lately?
32 months ago: I have warned you before that your so called super powers are weak. The most attuned members scientology has are still mere children to what they are about to encounter.

Your Thetans are polluted, and make us ill when we devour them, but we shall devour them all the same.

Open your Super Power Building soon please I am starving.
MeowMacao
MeowMacao
Andorra
32 months ago: Jack, will you marry me? You are the best.
32 months ago: MeowMacao, I'm flattered, but I think, what with our differences of opinion, that it wouldn't work out.
32 months ago: dangerranger, have you checked yourself against the characteristics of a suppressive person. It's not uncommon. Just sayin'
32 months ago: Jack H Rimington has less understanding of Scientology than a rain forest dweller does of survival in the tundra.
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
32 months ago: Terryeo: "Jack H Rimington has less understanding of Scientology than a rain forest dweller does of survival in the tundra."

How can you say that? You Terryeo have argued that understanding of Scientology doctrine is subjective, that each person has to try it and come up with their own understanding.

Whether or not Jack is trolling he clearly has an understanding of Scientology. It may not be your understanding or mine, it's his.

For all you or I know he's OT III or above, or maybe he's just read dianetics or a set of the basic books that are so readily available these days in libraries around the world - well OK maybe not that. Either way for him his understanding is a win and you're invalidating it by effectively saying he's talking a load of rubbish.

Invalidating people's wins is a strict no no according to Scientology doctrine, yet it's something you keep doing.

Before you suggest anything I make observations backed up by evidential statements. I explain my understanding and I even explain my understanding of your understanding of Scientology.
32 months ago: @jhr - Dangerranger, Tom Cruise is a recipient and promoter of Scientology. He doesn't have anything to do with the content - that's all thanks to Mr Hubbard and Mr Miscavige, and Scientology staff.

The poison dwarf has tampered with lrh's content! So, how pure is your "theology"? Keep on paying - you $cilons are like gambling addicts - always hoping that you strike the jackpot. The odds are with the house - that's why the small man lives in luxury - just like casino owners. Just like the live acts in the casinos - celeb TC is their drawcard.
You guys are being conned - walk away....
31 months ago: $cilonCONtology didn't work for 'source' and flounder Elron Hubbtard.

He died with psych drugs in his system, unkempt, paranoid, 'nine inch nails' (ala Howard Hughes), crazy as a hoot owl and on the run from the law.

If 'source' was the only example of a pendultimate $cilon with 'super powers'...

Well, you get my drift.

$cilonCONtology is what is known as a LONG CON.

That's where they suck as much money out of you as they can over decades or until you die, go broke or catch on to the con.

Elron was an accomplished hypnotist. $cilonCONtology is just a Con Game based on Hypnotic Mind Control.


No $cilon, anywhere, at anytime or in any situation has ever been able to demonstrate 'super powers'.

Remember how Elron ended up.

'super powers' indeed. LOL!
25 months ago:
As a philospher once said " to be willing to leave [our flesh body] without any proof of the next level's existence, other than what we have come to know: that we have nothing to fear; that we are in good keeping; that we can leave the body that we're in and be that soul, that identity, which totally survives that separation[...]."

Herb Applewhite - A member of the Heavens Gate cult.

I really think that before the CoS start trying to sell super powers, they might, oh I don't know, actually try to deliver a real Clear first.
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THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
25 months ago: By building a "Super Power" building, from ronbot slave labor and their life savings, is no proof that Ronbots have super powers.

We the ex-scientologists of the world, are here to testify that in all our combined years in $cientology, not one of us has seen any super powers from any past, present and future scientologists.

Hundreds of thousands of us say that it is all a scam and fraud.

Who are you going to believe?

Go to ant-cult websites and see what we state as being true, about the Godless Cult of Greed and Sin.

The only super power in the cult, is the super power to lie and cheat you, out of every penny that you have.

But let me tell you this -- for you guys that know what a NEGATIVE AVERMENT IS.

The cult is going to have to proof all their claims or pay us money.

I tell it like it is, I pull no punches, tell no lies, and I am as I am

THE ONE AND ONLY RONBOT HUNTER
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