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Rule Away, Justice Kagan

Posted 5 months ago|26 comments|377 views
Obamarama
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Supreme Court Justice Elana Kagan should not have to recuse herself from the pending proceedings over ObamaCare's legality before the United States Supreme Court.

I understand the law that requires judges and justices to sit out and not participate in certain cases is in her favor and allows her to rule on Obamacare.

The law is cited as 28 § U.S.C. § 455, and the law is called "Disqualification of justice, judge, or magistrate judge"

It includes, among other things:

"(a) Any justice, judge, or magistrate judge of the United States shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned.
(b) He shall also disqualify himself in the following circumstances:

(1) Where he has a personal bias or prejudice concerning a party, or personal knowledge of disputed evidentiary facts concerning the proceeding;

(2) Where in private practice he served as lawyer in the matter in controversy, or a lawyer with whom he previously practiced law served during such association as a lawyer concerning the matter, or the judge or such lawyer has been a material witness concerning it;

(3) Where he has served in governmental employment and in such capacity participated as counsel, adviser or material witness concerning the proceeding or expressed an opinion concerning the merits of the particular case in controversy;

(4) He knows that he, individually or as a fiduciary, or his spouse or minor child residing in his household, has a financial interest in the subject matter in controversy or in a party to the proceeding, or any other interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding; ..."

There is more, but I think the referenced law above should suffice it to say "Elana Kagan can participate in ruling on the Constitutionality of ObamaCare."

The law expressly only applies to the male judges, and not the female judges. It says "he" or "himself". It does not say "her" or "herself".

You are in the clear Judge Kagan. Rule away!
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5 months ago: Uh... sorry to be technical....

Himself?
5 months ago: "himself"
5 months ago: Oh yeah. I get it. Elana Kagan is the masculine figure in the lesbian world. Now that you mention it. She kinda reminds me of someone in the State Department.
5 months ago: MAN.................... You ruin everything......... There goes my (head hurting) reasoning right out the window.

THANKS a BUNCH!
5 months ago: Bottom of the Liberal barrel line....

The Constitution is a living, growing document...

The USC is a changable code by the bench...

You think they don't know that their Liberal base is full of deaf, dumb and blind slaves?

Just look at who they hold in high regard for office.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
5 months ago: "The Constitution is a living, growing document..."

This is very true...and it has worked so well over time. Term limits for Congress could be implemented too...but people who control the changing of these documents are not ever going to "fire themselves". Similarly, judges/justices are not going to make changes that take away their ability to rule on things.
5 months ago: Pfct.

Cypress was being facetious (in a joking manner..right?)

The Constitution is not a living, growing document. It is actually a concrete foundation upon which this country up to a point flourished. If you have looked around lately, our country is in DEEEEEEEEEEEEP trouble because of liberalism..... or is it "Liberalism"?
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
5 months ago: Perhaps you didn't read my comment through the correct lens. My comment is an exact representation of the reasons why the Constitution, while designed to be, is not a living document. All most every change that would be helpful would have to be passed by the people who are the problem that is being addressed (i.e. Term limits would require people to vote to fire themselves).

In this case it would be Liberalism. Once again, you, tcg and myself all fit the liberal mold. I also have a few Liberal stances on social issues that you disagree with, but you are through and through a classical liberal.
5 months ago: How about you get on the "Balanced Budget Amendment" bandwagon?
5 months ago: You reckon?

Not only different lenses, but different wave lengths.

Term limits may require a Constitutional Amendment, not necessarily and Congressional vote.

Me being a liberal is not only blasphemous, but incorrect. (You lost me on that one.)
5 months ago: He is eluding to the fact that you use your Medicaid Gold card for your dental work and the birthing of your 16 children by 16 different slu.... uh ....women.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
5 months ago: You are incorrect about yourself, and you have proven that you still have no understanding of what classical liberalism is:

"Classical liberalism is the philosophy committed to the ideal of limited government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, and liberty of individuals"
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
5 months ago: I think that an amendment that would force the government to have a balanced budget would be a great idea. I also think that if the Federal Government were run within the confines of the Constitution then a balanced budget would be a hell of a lot easier to achieve.
5 months ago: Who are you quoting?
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
5 months ago: Modern political philosophy (1999), Richard Hudelson, p, 37–38
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
5 months ago: "Who are you quoting?"

This definition of classical liberalism can be found in any number of places, including but not limited to: My little brother's 8th grade social studies book, Highschool politics books, college level political science books, graduate level political philosophy books, wikipedia, many dictionaries, google, yahoo, bing...

This is not a you vs. me thing, this is simply a definition of a philosophy. I am not sure why you are so offended by this. You are, no matter how much you fight it, a classical liberal (you are NOT a Liberal).
BadCyborg
BadCyborg
San Antonio, TX
5 months ago: Calm down, RSG. You are a true liberal in the classical sense. Once upon a time "liberal" did not mean leftist. It is that sense in which you and a bunch of us here are "liberals". We are the true liberals. It is the leftists statists, collectivist (fascist, socialist, communist pick your flavor) who are called "liberals" (although they prefer the even less appropriate term "progressive") who are the antithesis of classical liberalism.

Now go unbunch your panties like a good boy and act civil. The boy was paying you a compliment.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
5 months ago: See? You guys have a lot more in common than you could ever have imagined.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
5 months ago: It's true. I am a consider myself a classical liberal as well. The main differences between us stem from my interpretation of what "liberty for all" means.
5 months ago: We're both at rantrave.com.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
5 months ago:
Here's what I see as the differences in "liberty for all" between you guys.

PH believes that all people have the same rights, including
gays having the right marry,
dopeheads having the right to enjoy the poison of their choice,
pregnant women having the right to terminate their pregnancy.

RSG and TCG believe that a person has a right to
keep most of his earnings, regardless of how much he makes,
they have a right to worship whenever and wherever and however they feel like it,
they have the right to NOT accept things that are abhorrent to them, even if it is the politically correct thing to do.


Help me out, guys. What have I left out?
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
5 months ago: Pretty much sums it up.
5 months ago: PH. Other than myself and RSG. Is there a single thing in this life that you find to be abhorrent?
5 months ago: What was left out? The basis of the philosophy.

RSG and I think that the country / world is making a turn to the worse. We point it out and everyone has a fit. Well. Why have a fit if our points have no weight?
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
5 months ago: Classical liberalism is one of the oldest recognizable forms of political philosophies in the United States. Man alive, why are you so angry all the time? Even when we agree on issues you have make it a disagreement...just chill the f*!& out.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
5 months ago: Wow, I offer a situation where we agree, and explain why we agree, and point out what we agree on...and you decided that I am, by agreeing with you and RSG, that I find you abhorrent...sometimes I really just want to slam my head into a wall for a while after reading your thought patterns/comments........

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