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Repealed: Don't Ask, Don't Tell Gets Critical Vote

Posted 17 months ago|10 comments|1,085 views
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Breaking news: "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" repeal has just cleared its last congressional hurdle.
-Human Rights Campaign

On December 18, 2010, a life-changing vote was made to repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell aka DADT. The discriminatory law dictates that gay, lesbian, and bisexual people cannot serve openly in the military. If a gay or lesbian soldier comes out or is "caught" they are faced with a dishonorable discharge. Over the past several years there have been outstanding, patriotic, brave men and women who were dishonorably discharged from their military position because of their sexual orientation.

While I am encouraged by the vote for civil rights, I fear that the repealing of the Don't Ask, Don't Tell law is less about equal rights and more about gaining troops to fight "terrorism." In a time when military recruiting is low and the United States is at war, it is downright stupid that the military has been discharging servicemen and women for their orientation when all they wanted to do was fight for their country. At a time when many Americans and others around the world are opposed to the military presence and wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and other operations unknown, those oppressed by DADT have been fighting for their military inclusion, so that they many openly protect this country.

Gay and lesbian soldiers have been under a muzzle, gagged and silent, so they could do the thing they loved, serve the United States military. What an irony that their fellow countrymen wouldn't stand with them, simply because of their sexual orientation. Senator John McCain and Republican leaders in the Senate created a filibuster to stop the U.S. from repealing Don't Ask Don't Tell. As a former prisoner of war, I can't help but wonder if Senator McCain would have asked the sexual orientation of those involved in his rescue. It's doubtful, and that's because it just doesn't matter. Orientation has nothing to do with a willingness to serve and a patriotic heart.

I have never liked Senator McCain, a man who reportedly couldn't even acknowledge the Vietnamese man who pulled him from the river he landed in when his plane went down in Vietnam. A hero is not only built by survival. Some of the real heroes are the gay, lesbian, and bisexual soldiers who serve out of selflessness, who stifle themselves, who speak out against injustice, who serve to protect the speech of bullies that fling the word "faggot" and help nudge children into nooses. Anyone can say that gay isn't okay, but not everyone is authentic enough to stand up and lay down their life for that right.

There may be another vote in the next couple of days, but it's only a majority vote instead of 60 votes. After the bill is signed, the President, Secretary of Defense, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff will quickly implement a repeal of the Don't Ask, Don't Tell law. Hopefully when President Obama signs the bill to repeal DADT, the country can begin to mend a piece of broken. People deserve equality. There will be opposition, but at what cost? On the cusp of 2011, it's time to move forward.

The repeal is not official yet. Not until it is signed into law by President Obama. Today was the crucial vote, but the repeal isn't effective immediately. Until the Don't Ask, Don't Tell repeal is completely implemented, service members are still at risk of discharge on the basis of their sexual orientation.

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UPDATE - 17 months ago
On December 22, 2010, President Obama signed the bill to repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell. This is a historic event, a move forward in the fight for equality among non-heterosexual men and women.

For all those who strongly disapprove and think that the US military will now go to hell, these people were there before it was repealed. It simply gives them the right to not get fired for who they find attractive.

To those who think there will be a surge in military mayhem, or gay servicemen and women suddenly hitting on all of the straight people, get over yourselves. Ironically, YOU cannot have it both ways--stop the madness of thinking anytime there's someone gay around that all they're thinking about is you. It's just not true.

Thanks to President Obama for following through on a campaign promise.
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Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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17 months ago: If I was gay in the military, I would keep my mouth shut, and my preferences to myself. Two main reasons, the repeal could always be repealed. Woops, too late!!! You already told off on yourself.
Second, I don't think I would want to be in combat with some testosterone junkie who might even think I tried to make a move on him. In a foreign land, and everybody carrying loaded weapons? Uh uh, girlfriend, just keep it to yourself.
17 months ago: So true. I fully understand the desire for equal rights. I just think it's interesting that on a really basic level people don't realize that gay people in the military are asking to be sent to death (in a real morbid way of putting it). Hell, it's what some think should happen to them anyhow. You'd sorta think they'd support the gay guys getting shot at and all.

It will be interesting to see how this all turns out. I'm sure there's more than one guy that's died under "strange circumstances". I think I'd keep my mouth shut, too. Maybe it's just a trick to out everyone...
BadCyborg
BadCyborg
San Antonio, TX
17 months ago: As a veteran and a son, son-in-law, father, uncle, nephew and descendant of veterans reaching back to the French and Indian War, I have to ask; "Exactly how is this a GOOD thing?"

How is allowing queers, dykes and suchlike to openly serve beneficial to discipline and good order?

How is it going to work? Do the transegendered get to dress in uniform of the gender they are biologically or the gender they prefer themselves to be? If a queer makes a pass at a straight guy in the shower or a dyke propositions a straight woman, will that be considered the same sort of misconduct as if a straight guy propositioned a woman?
17 months ago: 1. Transgender people are not allowed in the military. Scratch that off your list of hows. Your assumptions are based on misinformation.

2. My family has military roots as well. I don't think that makes anyone MORE or LESS qualified to judge. In fact, it makes me feel a little disturbed that the very families who were mistress to the war, whose sons (and more recently daughters) fought to keep the US free, are the strong supporters of chaining someone.

3. Yes, it should be misconduct. If sex/dating/etc. is forbidden then it doesn't matter who is doing it, if it's against regs then by all means, write 'em up.

4. Your use of all the slander doesn't make your argument any stronger. It shows you are prejudiced, which I doubt you care about presenting.

5. Again, your assumptions are based on bad info. People who are straight always assume that non-straight people want to get up on them. It's probably one of the most egotistical bits of thinking that people have unchecked. Even the most homely person, who gets action no where, will worry about the "gays hitting on him." Please.

People who are gay, lesbian, and bisexual do not go around trolling for straight people. Period. So, it's crazy to think that there's going to be a sudden influx of shower scenes. Most people have a television idea of gay people, or that "one" gay who acted out, etc. Yes, there are exceptions to every kind of person. They do not run around trying to "turn people out" either. It's like any misconception of a group of people.

My point is that is a person is hitting on someone they know they should not be hitting on then that is a flaw in the character, not the sexual orientation. You can try to make it about the person being gay, but it's not. These things happen to women ALL THE TIME. Men cross boundaries, whistle, grab ****, stare, harass, and so on, but it's not EVERY man who does that to women. It's those w/o boundaries. That is the problem, not orientation.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
17 months ago: The precise definition for transgender remains in flux, but includes:

* "Of, relating to, or designating a person whose identity does not conform unambiguously to conventional notions of male or female gender roles, but combines or moves between these."[1]
* "People who were assigned a sex, usually at birth and based on their genitals, but who feel that this is a false or incomplete description of themselves."[2]
* "Non-identification with, or non-presentation as, the sex (and assumed gender) one was assigned at birth.
17 months ago: Where did the definition come from?

It's so general that it can be confusing. I imagine that it's probably also confusing to those who are condemning it.

One thing that I've learned though is that gender is something different than a person's sexual orientation. While I cannot argue the point one way or the other, I absolutely believe it's true, as it came from knowing transgender people. The sad thing to me is that society gets so many things twisted, so people are afraid of others (black people, poor people, transgender people, gay people). But, on the human to human level, it's just that--people.
17 months ago: thanks!
17 months ago: Major General Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben of the Continental Army was gay.
Submitted by Paul Revere on Tue, 05/04/2010 - 22:24
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A Senior Officer in George Washington's Continental Army was a homosexual. In fact, if it was not for this Officer, the colonies probably would have not had defeated the British in the Revolutionary War.

Meet Major General Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben of the Continental Army, Prussian aristocrat and military officer who served as inspector general and Major general of the Continental Army during the American Revolutionary War.

He is credited with teaching the Continental Army the essentials of military drill and discipline, helping to guide it to victory. He wrote the Revolutionary War Drill Manual, the book that became the standard United States drill manual until the War of 1812, and served as General George Washington's chief of staff in the final years of the war.
17 months ago: Right on! Thanks for adding that. I appreciate it. It's not as though gay is a new concept. There has been gay as long as there have been people, I'd expect nothing else.

I think it's really sad that people have such a misguided idea of gay people. I hold the media responsible for a lot of it. Same as racism -- all crime is by non-white folks. It's frustrating that the info that is piped into our homes at night via the news and some television shows is the overly dramatic gay men hitting on everyone.

It's only by knowing someone and having an open mind that you begin to understand that underneath all of our labels, all of our barriers that we put up to keep each other out, underneath we are all just skin and bones. I think somewhere it says "ashes to ashed, dust to dust" and we all degrade the same.

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