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McCain's Steve Schmidt Goads GOP

Posted 16 months ago|5 comments|562 views
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Coloranter Raver
Denver, CO
In a speech before the Log Cabin Republicans, former McCain campaign manager finally tells it as is putting words to what many true Republicans and independents who wish to have a full spectrum of candidates from which to choose have been saying and bemoaning for a while. According to Huffington Post writer, Sam Stein, Schmidt argued "...that the GOP has largely been co-opted by its religious elements." (1) Schmidt goes on to say, "If you put public policy issues to a religious test, you risk becoming a religious party. And in a free country, a political party cannot be viable in the long term if it is seen as a sectarian party." (2) This is a point this ranter has been arguing for months now. In a nation that values Freedom of Religion, a party that adopts religious principles as its foundation, even while calling them the more judeo-christian values, risks alienating everyone else. As Karl Rove worked tirelessly to create George W. Bush and his campaign, he placated the Christian right and, in effect, sold his soul to the devil. The values and positions of the Evangelicals in the USA are not even shared by most other Christians. Meanwhile, they certainly are not shared by most Democrats and Independents the latter of whom tend to take a more moderate approach to all issues. The time has come as has been ranted on before, for the GOP to ascertain exactly whom it hopes to represent. If it's the far-right Christian Evangelicals that tune in to Rush Limbaugh not to laugh at the way he chews up callers who disagree with him but because they need a download of their daily talking points, then change the name of the party. Adopt and become a truly religious party. You'll find in a nation that's founded on the principles of freedom of religion at odds with that choice, but at least it would be honest. Don't lie to these people, get their votes, and turn your back on them as did George W. Bush. Likewise, don't try to co-opt the Tea Parties as if the GOP is anti-taxes after 8 years of squandering our future economic solvency fighting ridiculous wars. Don't authorize the invasion of Iraq while North Korea is test firing missiles that could reach Alaska.

To the Christian Right: You are welcome to your ideals and values, but unwelcome to force them on the rest of us. When God Himself informs us that He put you in charge of public policy, societal morals, and Judgment Day; then, and only then, will we listen to you. For now, we want our country back – one where a diversity of ideas leads to a stronger, more prosperous, and vital nation.
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(1)"Steve Schmidt, McCain Campaign Manager: Religion Could Kill The GOP"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/17/steve-schmidt-mccain-camp_n_188354.html
[see first external link]
(2) ibid.
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TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
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Havertown, PA
16 months ago: Well said Coloranter!

The fate of the GOP rests on this and other similar issues.
16 months ago: Mrs. Ranter:
You are a blind to history buffoon.
Who's forcing their warped view on others?
You may try to rewrite history, but those with the mildest amount of sense understand this country was formed as a Christian nation.
Jesus Christ himself said men marry women.
While I am struggling mightily to understand, Jesus Christ also said God loved you just as much as anyone else, including me.
It sure is hard.
16 months ago: Siempre Solo:

You are correct about 1 thing.
I should be nicer. I apologize. I'm just at the end of my rope with historic distortions.
I respectfully suggest you are otherwise incorrect. Our forefathers were Christians. Period. Go back to Christopher Columbus if you wish. His first act was placing a cross where he first landed. Want to go further? That Norwegian Ericson had a Christian minister with him on his ship, and he was trying to reach other lands to spread Christianity. And so on.

Our forefathers well understood that each and everyone of us was flawed, and that they ingeniously set up a republic that had checks and balances to guard against each flawed one of us. Again, Period.

You are dead wrong and mistaken if you think otherwise.

Jews and non-Christians were welcome too. And they were welcome to worship or not worship as they pleased. These Christian founders learned the hard way in Europe what lack of freedom to worship meant.

As to homosexual behavior, I nor any other Christian give a hoot or a horse's butt about what someone else does in their lives. It is none of my or any other Christian's business.

My beef is that I am trying to raise young children to grow up and live their lives according to Jesus' teachings. Those teachings include "A MAN MARRIES A W0MAN". Period (again).

It is a bit disconcerting and quite maddening to try to explain to my children that they can follow some of Jesus' teachings and ignore others. If you are anyone else want to do so, that is none of my business.

But to try to force your opinion on me and my "ilk" is wearing me thin.

Phew!
Coloranter Raver
Coloranter Raver
Denver, CO
16 months ago: RedStateGuy: I should probably be nicer to you too. I want to understand your perspectives but often find it very difficult.

Being founded by Christians does not make a nation a Christian nation, by the way. Why give freedom of religion if you don't intend it? Meanwhile, our Constitution called for a separation of church and state. So, working to turn the USA into a theocracy while simultaneously touting the beauty of the Constitution makes little sense to me.

I was not aware that Jesus married? Did I miss something in Bible school. When did Jesus say that men and women should marry? Did not the Catholic Church found its clerical principles on the notion that Jesus was not married and therefore neither would their clergy? They would devote themselves to God not a partner?

If you teach your kids to follow in the path of Jesus, would they marry, would they would preach that "he who has not sinned may cast the first stone" and "turn the other cheek." Would not they be raised to love all people and free from all prejudices? Did Jesus, RedStater, ever say anything at all about Gay people? If so, please share with me where and when? I am not aware of Jesus having ever said anything about Gay people. But, I am not a Bible expert by any means. I do know enough about the Bible however to know that it devotes far, far, far more time to the servitude expectations of women to men that it does about whom men should or shouldn't marry. Likewise, far more time is devoted to the sin of divorce than is ever said about marriage. The irony of this last part should be lost on no one.
16 months ago: Coloraner Raver:
I perceive my country going to you know where in a hand basket, and I am afraid and frustrated. So, you were the one to receive it. I suggest you take all I say with a grain of salt.
I am no Bible expert either.
I understand in Matthew 19, verse 4, Jesus says a man marries a woman. (The following is the King James version.)

Matt.19
"...[4] And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
[5] And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
[6] Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."

I understand Jesus never married and said nothing about Gay people.

I further understand G-d loves Gay people just as much as straight people. There is no difference in G-d's eyes, and there should be no difference in any Christian's eyes either.

What get's my goat (and it probably shouldn't) is Gay people insisting on receiving the sacrament of marriage which apparently is contrary to what Jesus said. How can I explain to my children that some people are allowed to pick and choose which lessons they want to follow?

As to the Bible, some believe the entire Bible is G-d's divine word. The Bible is directly from his hand. While others (including me) believe the Bible as we have now have it, includes translations from Aramaic, to Hebrew, to Greek, to any number of languages up to English. Plus, the Bible was written, translated and transcribed by Humans. Humans make mistakes.
Perhaps, that will be my first Rave.....or Rant.

I appreciate the opportunity to change ideas with you guys.

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