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Jesus went up to heaven leaving a promise that he'd return

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Jesus went up to heaven leaving his disciples a promise that he would return. He assured them that it would take awhile but that he would return. He said some would get weary of waiting but that he would return. Christians try to imagine what it must have been like to be a nascent Christian in those early days of the Christian Church. We envision the zeal and fervor of those early believers and we yearn for a revival of that early faith but what we forget is that they were alive with the promise of Jesus that he would return. They were expecting him to return. I don't know if that meant to them that he was expected in their lifetimes. Or if they envisioned 2000 years of earth history happening after their deaths and that still no Jesus!

Jesus went up to heaven leaving his disciples a promise that he would return. He assured them that it would take awhile but that he would return. He said that some would get weary of waiting but that he would return. Christians today walk their Christian faith with a doctrinal understanding that Jesus will return but we don't eat, breath and sh*t it! What would the world be like if every professed Christian behaved as if Jesus return was happening right now? I will tell you! Their would be a figurative light so bright shining from this little planet that every corner of the vast expanse of space would be lit with the zeal and fervor of a people ready for his return. If we don't see that then it must be that we are among those that have gotten weary of waiting.

Jesus went up to heaven leaving his disciples a promise that he would return. He assured them that it would take awhile but that he would return. He said that some would get weary of waiting but that he would return.
Eat that promise. Live that promise. Sh*t that promise. Let it be spread so far and wide around you that there is no doubt that you believe that he will return.
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42 months ago: Dwayne, this is an illuminating post.

I saw that you intentionally posted: Jesus went up to heaven leaving his disciples a promise that he would return. He assured them that it would take awhile but that he would return. He said that some would get weary of waiting but that he would return. --several times. At first I thought it was accidental duplication until I saw it for the third time.

You have one little phrase, that ruins your good work for me. You probably know what it is. Find a substitute word, quickly please. You shot yourself in the foot with it. I am not necessarily prudish, but here you are with this excellent piece of prose...then, thunk. Like driving smoothly, hitting a nail--then you have a flat tire.

It can be fun thinking of a substitute word. You already have, "eat", and "live"--so we need a different category to demonstrate intensity. How about:
*shout
*share
*savor
*Receive
(you get the idea:-)

I love this passage:
Their would be a figurative light so bright shining from this little planet that every corner of the vast expanse of space would be lit with the zeal and fervor of a people ready for his return. If we don't see that then it must be that we are among those that have gotten weary of waiting.
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I can visualize it. I wish someone would make a visual, then go to a site similar to Cafe Press, make t-shirts, mugs, frisbees, bumper stickers, totes.

Love, Sister Suzi
(That's my persona for loving correction.
You are not the first, and you won't be the last.
However, the person receiving a "Sister Suzi" comment has huge potential and great character; otherwise, I would not invest my time.) Capiche?
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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42 months ago: Wear it? Drink it? Embrace it?

It's not that the word you chose is a "bad" word, and I understand that it might lend street cred to the piece, but the image is of elimination, and a process I would not associate with the promise of Jesus' return.

It might prompt those anti-Christians to start saying things like "Watch where you step, there are Christians around."
Dwayne Johnson
Dwayne Johnson
42 months ago: It might prompt those anti-Christians to start saying things like "Watch where you step, there are Christians around."

And would that be so bad?
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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42 months ago: Matthew 18:6 comes to my mind.

Also Matthew 10:16.

You got people to stop and think about what you were trying to get across, but at what price? And how? By using a base four letter word that many people feel is the most repugnant bodily function. In many cultures, the mere reference to defecation is a personal insult. Even here in the western hemisphere, calling someone "toilet paper" is an offense.

So in effect, you have taken a well conceived message, artfully written with redundancies that get the reader involved, and then detracted from that beautiful message with your urge to provide "shock value". You have, in effect, cast a stumbling block before not only your readers, but also before yourself.

I'm not trying to be mean or ugly, I believe your intentions were good. If it were me, though, I would attempt to find a different contrast word that would still provoke thought and discourse without all the negative and repulsive connotations that go along with the word you chose. I say all these things with only love for you.
Dwayne Johnson
Dwayne Johnson
42 months ago: Think Link
I will say more once more have posted. Suffice for now to say this prose is an exercise in contrasts to arouse a more thoughtful response than the instinctual ones most religious works get!
42 months ago: Ok. But, that is like supporting patriotism by burning a flag.
Dwayne Johnson
Dwayne Johnson
42 months ago: Really! How so?
42 months ago: Dwayne, I have other projects today. You can figure this one out.
Dwayne Johnson
Dwayne Johnson
42 months ago: A bit snippy, huh? Don't be! I'm genuinely intrigued by your suggestions. It is after all why I posted this, to foster dialogue on a much needed subject of conversation. If you think it is crass I am of mature intellect, I can accept your viewpoint without feeling hurt but please don't be snippy. It doesn't become you.

Addendum: Unless of course your intention was to evoke an emotion filled response from me in order for me to see how my own piece of writing might do the sa,me in someone else. If that is the case then I say to you, well done.

Post Addendum: Am I reading way to much into your response?
markbyrn
markbyrn
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42 months ago: Dwayne, I have to agree with the other posters. How about, "but we don't eat, breathe and defecate it!"? Hmm, I'm not sure about that synonym ether - perhaps, "but we don't eat, breathe, and sell it like a used car at the lemon lot"?

You do make a fair observation; if people really believed in this superstition and that the religious 'prophecy' of a second coming was imminent, I imagine they would live far different lives.
Dwayne Johnson
Dwayne Johnson
42 months ago: Your sly and slightly cynically humorous undertone in your commentary Mark Byrne, tell me that you are on the side of the unbelievers! Is that so? I do find it refreshing though that at least you understood why sh*t had to be used there and not another less bothersome word. I even find it fascinating that you picked up on the contrast! Perhaps my initial assessment of you was a bit impetuous. I think perhaps you are probably a secular Jew who has done a lot of religious studies! Tell me if I'm close or let me keep guessing if you are intrigued at what other discipline I think you might follow. Either way thanks for the positive and thoughtful feedback.
markbyrn
markbyrn
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42 months ago: Dwayne, What would distinguish a secular Jew from a secular Gentile - an affinity for bagels and lox? Or do you need a secular Jew to out the secular Christians?

What we have here Dwayne is a case of folks straining at your turd while swallowing the proverbial camel of religious secularism, as in $$$, political power, and materialism all wrapped up in an American flag and a Dominionist Jesus bumper sticker.

The Christianity of the religious right bears no resemblance to the practices of ancient Christians and they certainly don't live like their tri-god is coming back anytime soon except in the fashion that they would attempt to replace secular government with an evangelical theocracy guided by superstition rather than reason.
42 months ago: Dwayne, your comment made me smile at my computer. I am busy and can only spend so much time per issue. I said my piece. I don't believe in continually hashing the same thing when likely we will get the same result. Your goals are your goals, mine are mine. I enjoyed your piece; the greater part.

Now, back to my websites. Have a great day, it is truly beautiful here.
Dwayne Johnson
Dwayne Johnson
42 months ago: Okay Thinklink. I'll let you be. I'm glad you enjoyed all my piece until you stepped on the sh*t at the end. J Sorry I couldn't help myself.
Dwayne Johnson
Dwayne Johnson
42 months ago: Mark Byrne, I have theory about secular Jews and Secular Christians (I would include secular Muslims too but I don't think they are allowed to live past the I quit phase.) so there is no case study or focus group to include them in my theory. So that leaves you and I, assuming of course you are a secular Jew and I a secular Christian, what with my whole use of profanity and all! Regardless this is what I've observed.

1) There are no former Jews. A Jew is always a Jew regardless of belief in God. I heard someone say that to question God is a Jew's birthright therefore not believing does not preclude his Judaism, never mind the whole ethnic birthright thing too. That means that an unbelieving, doubting or non practicing Jew is a secular Jew.

2)There are former Christians however and these are those that once espoused a commitment to their Christian religion but now devote their time to denouncing that same faith. This is very different from secular Christians who hold some form of Christian belief but do not practice their religion in a public formal manner. The term catching on is Spiritual. As in I'm not religious but spiritual. This gives them the freedom to experiment while not denouncing any form of faith as would former Christians.

3) I think the distinction between 1 and 2 or so dramatic that it is possible to figure out a persons perspective behind their line of questioning regarding religion based upon the type of questions they ask. I think yours are generally critical which would exclude you from being a former Christian since former Christians are specifically critical. But they are also very knowledgable which means you've done a lot of studying. So if you have done a lot of study on religion but have no specific bones to pick with any given denomination then that leads me to believe you are a secular Jew. So which is it? Am I close?
markbyrn
markbyrn
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42 months ago: ...There are no former Jews. A Jew is always a Jew regardless of belief in God...

That's the beauty of religion - as it has no rational constraint, it's the ultimate indulgence in fantasy and one can define what constitutes a Jew, Christian, Muslim, etc. on a whim.

The ancient proselytizers of Judaism were smart in the sense that they invented the concept of inherited religion and lineage (e.g. if your mother is a Jew, you're a Jew) even though non-Jews have become Jews by conversion and their future children could likewise inherit the religion by inheritance. As such, the concept of Jewish ethnicity traceable to the ancient Israelites is patently absurd but remember, religion doesn't need to be rational or logical - they just need to figure how to perpetuate the religion. So the assertion that there are no former Jews is an illogical canard; there are former Jews just as there are former Catholics, Mormons, Muslims, etc.

...There are former Christians however and these are those that once espoused a commitment to their Christian religion but now devote their time to denouncing that same faith...

When people convert from one religion to another, they often engage in proselytizing for their new religion and that includes denouncing the old religion. For example, there are Mormons who became Evangelical Christian and they spend their time bizarrely denouncing Mormonism as a fraudulent Christian religion. If one is only denouncing their former religion while giving a pass to other religions, they're not necessarily rational - they might be vindictive or they have merely stitched from being the kettle to being the pot.

..So if you have done a lot of study on religion but have no specific bones to pick with any given denomination...

You are correct - I have a bone to pick with any and all forms of irrationalism, and that even includes Atheism. As I see it, Atheism is an irrational anti-religion as it presumes absolute knowledge that one cannot know or prove. However most of what's being proselytized here on Rant Rave is evangelical Christianity and so it wold appear that I'm picking on it more than others. Though when I first came on Rant Rave, it was to address a member of the cult of Scientology.

And no, I'm not a secular Jew - I'm a rational Agnostic.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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42 months ago: Come on, Markbyrn, admit it. You are an atheist, plain and simple. A rational atheist will denounce and pounce on any form of religion, or any mention of God in any form. A rational agnostic would refrain from any comment, believing that no one could know anything about God, therefore anyone could possibly be right or possibly be wrong.

If you believe, as many do, that there is some guiding force or energy behind the order of the universe, but you are certain that it isn't God, then you are not an agnostic.

Maybe pantheist more closely describes your philosophy, but definitely not an agnostic. Agnostics don't really care who is right and wrong, because they know that they themselves will never know.
markbyrn
markbyrn
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42 months ago: An agnostic believes that the the existence or non-existence of any deity is unknown or unknowable; an atheist goes a long step forward to deny the existence of any deity or god. From the perspective of superstitious religionists that imagine up a petulant deities, I'm sure that's a negligible difference but I'm of the former and not the latter.

Pantheism? No, that would best be represented by James Cameron's Avatar delusion and you know I have no respect for Anthropomorphism or nature worship. I'd be comfortable to accept straight Deism provided one doesn't try to fill in the unknowable blanks.
Dwayne Johnson
Dwayne Johnson
42 months ago: First of all Mark Byrne check the bloodlines, there are ethnic Jews that can trace their ancestral lineage to a singular group of people despite how dispersed they have ended up (China, Europe, Africa & India) But that has nothing to do with religion. They are people who trace their bloodline to the people whose ancient faith was Judaism, that this religion has survived over 4 millennium in one form or another is not a testament to whim, fantasy or indulgence it is the resolution of a group of people to hold onto the cultural ties that bond and unify them.

Unless you are inclined towards genocide and ethnic cleansing I can only suppose that you are for the efforts of a people, any people to leave a legacy on this earth. No? This is the essence and roots of any religion, not a fantastical belief in a mythical God as you are asserting. A real Atheist would accept this premise as fact without further need to debate, because it is that obvious.

But let me not entertain further such sloppy arguments. I'm more interested in this notion you have that a Mormon converting to be an Evangelical constitutes a conversion to another religion. Face it Mark Byrne, Christianity is the blanket organized faith and the bodies that make up this religion are nothing more than body parts. Christianity is famous for producing staunch unbelievers who fight their former beliefs tooth and nail till death claim them. This is a Christian anomaly. As I said, I have yet to meet a Jew who once deciding there is no God has committed their life to berating Judaism. It is simply unheard off and as for Islam. Islam is like a gang, blood in and blood out. There is no leaving Islam alive.

If you are an angry unbeliever that is fixated on discrediting lets say Adventists then chances are you are a former Adventist or other Christian once friendly with that body of Christians. However if you are generically angry at monotheism then that must by default tie you to Judaism. Agnostics don't focus on monotheism or its various branches. They speculate the supernatural. But you already know this, don't you? I suspect you are trying to be evasive deliberately. Why is that? I told you I would hang around and walk you through all these steps. So tell me, what were you? Because agnostic you are not since you leave no room for the divine and rational all depends on your particular flavor of argument of the day.
Dwayne Johnson
Dwayne Johnson
42 months ago: You might be onto something there Out of the Box. Perhaps he is in a transitional state of belief and is afraid to confront what it means to no longer rely on the security of a past belief but instead embrace new ones. What do you think?
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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42 months ago: If the existence of God is unknowable or unknown, then how do you know if someone didn't just get it right? Or mostly right? Or even partly right? Would it be correct to assume that every person combined could not come up with fragments of the nature of God?

So an agnostic says "I believe that there might be a God, it's just not your God."
Dwayne Johnson
Dwayne Johnson
42 months ago: Ha, ha, I knew it. I knew something was cooking in your crock pot Mark Byrne. Please, do tell. This is starting to get interesting.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
42 months ago: ...If you are an angry unbeliever that is fixated on discrediting lets say Adventists then chances are you are a former Adventist...

Holy cow, accusing me of being a former Adventist is the Siempre Solo calling card - welcome back!!
Dwayne Johnson
Dwayne Johnson
42 months ago: Oh! I get it Mark Byrne! Siempre Solo was a member at RantRave that chided you for being a former Adventist and Red State Guy picked up on Wintly Phipps religious affiliation being the same and you guys think we sound or look alike or something ? Was this the center of your conversations? Did he know you were Agnostic and not a former anything? Did you drive him away? Do you miss him? Geeze this sounds to personal for my taste. Lets change the topic. How's the weather where you are at?
markbyrn
markbyrn
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42 months ago: SS, the element of singular ethnicity in Judaism is an obvious lie since anybody of any race has and can become a Jew and it 'magically transfers' to their descendants provided they don't marry outside the religion (not outside their race). That lie by the way was used a pretext for the holocaust and Hitler called the Jews an inferior race.

Some Jews might have longer lineage traceability than others based on which generation of their ancestors converted but that doesn't make Judaism an ethnicity. The fact that the religion has survived so long is in large part to the inheritance factor but the age of the religion doesn't mean it's 'true' - if that was the case, Hinduism is considered the oldest surviving religion.

...I'm more interested in this notion you have that a Mormon converting to be an Evangelical constitutes a conversion to another religion...

It's not my notion - Evangelicals regularly publish screeds against Mormonism and calling it a cult. For example, "The Kingdom of the Cults" by Walter Martin and it's description:

"This book will continue as a crucial tool in counter cult ministry and in evangelism for years to come. Among cults and religions included are: Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormonism, New Age Cults, the Unification Church, Baha'i Faith, Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, and more." Lucky for you, they didn't call out Seventh Day Adventists as cultists although others might.

Or we have a ministry by ex-Mormon evangelicals in Utah that attempt to proselytize Mormons to Evangelical Christianity:

http://www.utlm.org/

Or how about:

http://jameshartlinereport.blogspot.com/...

(The Satanic Cult of Mormonism Wants America To Believe That Mormons Are Christians Too!)

It might surprise you SS but Mormonism is not a monotheistic religion - they believe in a plurality of Gods and that we can become Gods. Of course 'conventional' Christianity is not monotheistic either. To quote somebody who ridiculed the Christian concept of Trinity:

"Many men say there is one God; the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are only one God! I say that is a strange God anyhow—-three in one, and one in three! It is a curious organization. "Father, I pray not for the world, but I pray for them which thou hast given me." "Holy Father, keep through Thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one as we are." All are to be crammed into one God, according to sectarianism. It would make the biggest God in all the world. He would be a wonderfully big God—-he would be a giant or a monster."

Guess who I quoted.
42 months ago: On the Whitney Phipps testimony, Amen Siempre...er..uh.. Dewayne.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
42 months ago: Ahh, did Siempre Solo come back as Dwayne? Hmmm
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
42 months ago: I don't think that's the case. Unless maybe Siempre was lying about his looks. So far the only thing that reminds me of him is the drawn in glasses on the profile pic. Well, that and the probes into your religious background, reminiscent of your conversation about your Jewish relatives. Maybe a couple of other insignificant things,..
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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42 months ago: Disregard tat last post. I am 98% convinced that Mr. Johnson is legit. He has a shrewd wit and an ability to hold a train of thought without distraction.

Again, Dwayne, welcome to RantRave,
Dwayne Johnson
Dwayne Johnson
42 months ago: Everyone! Who is always alone? (I checked it on Google Translator, that wasn't to difficult.) Is that code for something or are we talking about someone in particular? Geeze, I hate coming into the middle of something, it makes me feel like I'm the butt of an inside joke that I am not privy to. Am I?

Regardless, I don't think it really maters to me in the long run what Mark Byrne's religion is. I was just happy that he understood the premise of my prose. Then he got philosophical (does he do that often?)and I got curious?

Like I said I've got this theory on the Abrahamic Faiths and how dissidents from each can't be jumbled as unbelievers in one group because of the body of the arguments that makes each leave their faith. For example for Muslims it's a fear of being murdered by their Caliph, Imam or generic suicide bomber out to prove something. Where as for Jews detraction of a central belief is an essential part of their belief. Jews are taught in their faith to question. Seriously, Is Mark Byrne right? Are most of you right wing evangelicals with no clue of anything outside your own faiths? I hope not! Christianity is very diverse, as Mark pointed out on the verge of being different religions not just branches of one.

Come on people, let's get this dialogue going!
Dwayne Johnson
Dwayne Johnson
42 months ago: Okay Out of the Box, now you are making me nervous. Is this still part of that inside joke? Should I accept your welcome as genuine and forth right? I'm tempted to accept the compliment and role with it but I keep hearing all the comments and I seem to be out of the loop. Perhaps you could direct me to one of his old posts (It is a he right, not a code word?) and let me read exactly what we share in common. One side benefit of this is that I've always wanted to be a De ja vous.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
42 months ago: Dwayne,

Regarding your quote, "I can only suppose that you are for the efforts of a people, any people to leave a legacy on this earth. No?"

That not often used "no?" interrogative tag that you used piqued my memory.

http://www.rantrave.com/Rave/What-does-t...

Siempre Solo: "It all depends on how and why you are dancing. Much the same way that dress and food are regulated in the bible too. No?"

Also, your quote, "Are most of you right wing evangelicals with no clue of anything outside your own faiths? I hope not! Christianity is very diverse"

That's very SS like too. I sure am getting a case of Deja Vu.
Dwayne Johnson
Dwayne Johnson
42 months ago: Okay Mark, I understand why the use of the word "No" as a question would pique your interest. It seems that he did use that expression after all.. Although that's a bit creepy that you would remember such detail and be able to recall exactly where and when he did use it. But how does this: "Are most of you right wing evangelicals with no clue of anything outside your own faiths? I hope not! Christianity is very diverse" remind you of Siempre Solo? Or does the interrogating itself reminiscent?
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
42 months ago: Dwayne, You're right, it is a bit creepy and being as OOTB is certain that you're legit, I'll defer to his judgement and not presume you're a past member. Just there's some interesting coincidences; for example, your broader perspective on Christianity and comments about Jews and mentioning Adventists vaguely reminded me of Siempre Solo's perspective. For example, see his post at:

http://www.rantrave.com/Rave/Jesus-Our-K...

In any event, welcome aboard Dwayne.
Dwayne Johnson
Dwayne Johnson
42 months ago: Sorry, for the late reply Mark Byrne. I'm up early this morning doing some much needed catch up work which includes cleaning up my inbox of Emails. I read that link you provided in it's entirety. It seems to me that Siempre Solo must be some form of religious authority or something. Maybe an educator at an Adventist School?

That being said, I'm curious still as to why the mere mention of Adventism makes you think of Siempre Solo? Adventism is not an obscure enough religion that one should assume few followers or knowledgeable informants. I myself became familiar with them through the singer I posted a You Tube Video of. I don't know if you know this but not only did he sing at our presidents inauguration but he also sang for more than a few other presidents as well. A few Google hits later and now I'm a desktop expert on this American born religion; a good title for a rave by the way; wouldn't you agree? Any way goodnight.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
42 months ago: "...right wing evangelicals with no clue of anything ..."

Hardly. People like Markbyrn like to illustrate their points with the caricatures of the faith. They attempt to capitalize on the ignorance and/or intolerance of a small percentage of evangelicals, and an even more minuscule group of those that are vocal about it.

Most people, myself included, don't even know they are a right wing evangelical until someone like Markbyrn came along and told them they are one.

I guess that's one thing Markbyrn has in common with Siempre Solo. I never knew that I was a privileged white racist until Siempre Solo told me.
Dwayne Johnson
Dwayne Johnson
42 months ago: I guess Siempre Solo had special skills at identifying white racist? Was he the militant black activist type, Eg. Black Muslim? That might explain a lot! I've typed Siempre and Solo in different combinations in the search bar but I've gotten pretty mundane run of the mill hits. Am I missing out on the Juicy stuff? A better question is: Where are all the big debates at?
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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42 months ago: When I first came to RantRave, Siempre seemed like an all right kind of person, but I quickly learned he was a bit eccentric. We got into a discussion that didn't go as he planned, so he deleted the whole thing, and then re-posted it again. He had a complete meltdown after that, calling everyone white racists or stupid uncle Toms, and then deleted his account, thereby deleting every comment he ever made and every article he had submitted.
Shortly afterward he came back to RantRave and decided he wanted to be the the No. 1 author. He wrote 3 or 4 articles a day, sometimes even more, about the wind, MacDonalds sandwiches, recipes, you name it. He finally wrote enough to become No. 1, then got his panties in a wad again, and quit again.
He came back for a third time, shared some really racist views on things, and almost in mid sentence, he was gone again. Little did he know that largely due to him, RantRave admin had changed its policy, and now when you quit everything stays, your name just turns black denoting you are no longer a member. This prevents threads with giant holes in them that don't make any sense because a member quit and all their comments got deleted.
He then tried to sneak back in, posing as a southern belle from Magnolia Texas, complete with sweet tea and y'all, mint juleps and other ridiculous stereotypes that he could have only gotten from watching TV. He was quickly called out, and although he never admitted it, he packed his bags again and left a swan song final post. If indeed he was a he, of which I had my doubts sometimes. His other alter ego, glitchypetpeeve, was supposedly SS's daughter, and I wondered from the start if she was an actual separate person, or if she was just another extension of his feminine side.
Another of SS's legacies is the modification of the ranking process, which used to be just sheer volume. Thanks to him, admin changed it to a combination of volume and user ratings and views.
Dwayne Johnson
Dwayne Johnson
42 months ago: "…deleting every comment he ever made and every article he had submitted."

Bummer!

"…decided he wanted to be the the No. 1 author."

Ambitious!

" …He wrote 3 or 4 articles a day, sometimes even more, about the wind, MacDonalds sandwiches, recipes, you name it."

I imagine he would have too to reach his goal.

"…become No. 1, then got his panties in a wad again, and quit again."

Why, was he not happy with what he accomplished?

"…He came back for a third time, shared some really racist views on things, and almost in mid sentence, he was gone again."

Did he send RantRave his cut off ear? Sounds like he lost his marbles by then.

"…now when you quit everything stays, your name just turns black denoting you are no longer a member."

Sounds like a good idea that they should have had all along.

"…He then tried to sneak back in, posing as a southern belle from Magnolia Texas"

What was her name and where is he really from?

"…he packed his bags again and left a swan song final post."

Interesting!

"…glitchypetpeeve, was supposedly SS's daughter,"

A daughter too? Dang this is better than a Soap!


"…just another extension of his feminine side."

Just an observation here but Siempre Solo translates to Always Alone. And that was his male persona the other two were female and one of them supposedly his daughter. You think perhaps He suffered some sort of loss, which is why he's Always alone? Was he black or white? Did his wife leave him for a black guy or a white guy? That would explain the bottled hate. I'd be curious to know if any of that info might have slipped out in all his ranting and ravings! Another point is that this little bio you just related about him makes any possible bio about Mark Byrne seem rather tame. I find it funny that I would remind anybody about either one of them. I'm pretty boring compared to all that jazz. Thanks for catching me up.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
42 months ago: I don't recall him ever mentioning his wife, although he indicated that he had two small children at his home. He also claimed at least the one older daughter. He was fiercely proud and simultaneously (the word I'm looking for is not ashamed, but but somewhat on the defensive) of his mixed heritage, apparently having a mixture of black, white, latino, and native American ancestors.http://rantrave.com/Rave/DEAR-MR-REVISIONIST.aspx

That was Siempre's biggest falling, accepting and presenting challenges that did not ennoble him or anyone else. He also thought he was entitled to be a bully, but he should have diplomatic immunity from bullying. He internalized most everything that was said to him.

That's enough about Siempre Solo. He was a character, but we have had many characters , here today and gone tomorrow.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
42 months ago: Just like Hey Noni Noni, eh? Maybe that was his new goal, to be remembered and talked about, just like good old Hey Noni Noni. Man, I used to love arguing with that guy.
42 months ago: Guy?
Dwayne Johnson
Dwayne Johnson
42 months ago: My head is spinning now, stop,stop,stop. That's to much for now. You can tell me about Hey Noni, Noni some other time.

What does Red State Guy mean by "Guy?" was he a she too? Never mind, tell me some other time. Thanks.

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