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Jesus Taught Capitalism Was Good

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I understand all our Liberal friends cringe at the thought of anyone trading and dealing and enlarging their holdings or profiting too much.

Don't deny it Liberals.

Did Jesus say anything about profit?

Did Jesus suggest Capitalism was a good thing?

Yep.

In the King James Version of the Bible (Matthew Chapter 15, verses 15 through 30), Jesus said the following.

(I repeat, "Jesus said the following")

"[15] And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey.
[16] Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with the same, and made them other five talents.
[17] And likewise he that had received two, he also gained other two.
[18] But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money.
[19] After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them.
[20] And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more.
[21] His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
[22] He also that had received two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: behold, I have gained two other talents beside them.
[23] His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
[24] Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed:
[25] And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.
[26] His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
[27] Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
[28] Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.
[29] For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
[30] And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Those who do not trade and try to increase their fortunes and "profit" shall be gnashing their teeth.

That's what it sounds like to me.
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12 months ago: Red,

You really have a good take on stuff... however, I think that the point that you are making in your post would be better served with a different scripture. The ref is actually Matthew 25:15-30... that being said, it is a parable about true wealth and not just money investments... it makes a parallel with our worldly wealth to make a spiritual point... as all parables do. I AGREE as the scripture states, that we must be faithful with our worldly wealth... but then, it gives clear advice how to use that same wealth for the good of others... in that way we aren't serving two masters... only the ONE with our wealth.

First, Jesus is not going to need money when He returns.

Second, the point being made in the ref is similar to the one in Luke 16, where it too is followed up with a responsibility to the poor.

"If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches? And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man's, who shall give you that which is your own? No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." (Luke 16:11-13)

Third, the actual "fire" is reserved for those who kept their wealth to themselves and shared not, nor treated the poor and destitute the way they should have treated Jesus...

"...Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.' Then they also will answer, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?' Then he will answer them, saying, 'Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.' And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life." (Matthew 25:41-46)

...all this to say... I like the idea of creating "equal opportunity" for the less fortunate, but you don't have to get rid of the constitution to do it! The responsibility is both a personal one and national... if the money used in the "bank-bailouts" was given to the average citizen to create self-employment and such... America would be rocking right now in wealth and prosperity !:]
12 months ago: After we get rid of these socialists, it will. Stand back and watch.

The United States of America is an ongoing experiment.
12 months ago: Thanks truth. You are correct. It is chapter 25.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
12 months ago: Matthew 21:12 ...Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves.

Matthew 19:21 ...If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell what thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven; and come and follow me. >>>"Most certainly I say to you, a rich man will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven with difficulty. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God."

In fact Red, the early Christians (the 1st 300 years before the Romans and the bishops took over) were communists.

"And the multitude of believers had but one heart and one soul: and not one said that any of the things which he possessed, was his own; but all things were in common unto them."

"For neither was there anyone needy among them. For as many as were owners of lands or houses, sold them, and brought the price of the things they sold, and laid it down before the feet of the apostles. And distribution was made to everyone, according as had need.

"And Joseph, who, by the apostles, was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, by interpretation, the son of consolation,) a Levite, a Cyprian born, having land, sold it, and brought the price, and laid it at the feet of the apostles.

"But a certain man named Ananias, with Saphira his wife, sold a piece of land, and by fraud kept back part of the price of the land, his wife being privy there unto: and bringing a certain part of it, laid it at the feet of the apostles.

"But Peter said: Ananias, why hath Satan tempted thy heart, that thou shouldst lie to the Holy Ghost, and by fraud keep part of the price of the land? Whilst it remained, did it not remain to thee? And after it was sold, was it not in thy power? Why hast thou conceived this thing in thy heart? Thou hast not lied to men, but to God" (Acts 4:32, 34-37 and 5:1-4).

12 months ago: Al, you're not quite there.

Jesus ran the moneychangers out of his father's house. There are places for trade, but not in the temple.

There is are separte concepts you are combining into one. The first is making money. The second (and later) is helping others without. The needle's eye people don't share.

Again, the early Christian church was communistic. You are correct. Exactly correct; however, you're either being lazy or dishonest to yourself. After a while, the early Christians found out IT DIDN'T WORK and they quit doing it. It failed back then just like it did again with some of the first colonisit here. I will fail again with you guys.

Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
12 months ago: Of course all of the televangelists use Jesus's disdain for material wealth to enrich themselves. Give away all of your worldly goods and give them to me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j35ihONRG...

It is interesting that Conservatives who claim to be the moral leaders of the nation do the opposite of all of the things that Jesus advocated. They are the ones that push for war and killing. They are the ones that take food from the mouths of starving babies, throw the old and infirm out into the streets, and allow 50,000 to die without health care.

It is also usually those who are most vociferous in their condemnation of the gay lifestyle and of prostitution, that end up tapping their feet in air port restrooms and using hookers.
12 months ago: Jesus has no disdain whatsoever for personal wealth.

What He has disdain for is greed and hypocrisy. Money and personal possessions are not evil. As a matter of fact, following Him provides the essential and then some. (Mt 6:25-34).

Contrary to popular belief Jesus was not poor. It is not His will that His followers be poor either. Jesus' simply has a problem when things become more important to individuals than than following Him. (Mt 19:20, 22-23; Lk 18:18). That He does not tolerate.

Jesus and his followers had money. They had a treasurer and they were known for giving to the poor. (John 12:5-6; 13:29). You can't give liberally to the poor when you are broke.

Jesus did not walk around in rags either. The soldiers gambled for His cloths during the crucifixion. Folk don't gamble for rags.

It's okay to have possessions, but those possessions are not to have us.

"Money is the root of all evil." A misquote and a deception. The LOVE of money is the root. (1 Timothy 6:10)

Also, sharing does not make one a communist, it simply shows appreciation for what one does have and a willingness to help those in need. We should all do that. That's not communism, that's love.

It's funny how folks want to paint Jesus as either a Liberal or a Conservative. That's a joke because He is neither. He is Lord.

Whoever is not for Him is against Him.

Jesus never takes sides. He takes over.
12 months ago: What Huey said!
12 months ago: Well said Huey Newton, well said!
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
12 months ago: Thanks Huey for exemplifying how those on the right can ignore 95% of the teachings of Jesus to justify their greed, cruelty, and materialism.

You can pick out those parts you like, as one obscure sentence against homosexuality, and then it is the literal truth from God's lips but you completely ignore the entire point Jesus was trying to get across in almost everything he said.

Jesus invented communism which isn't just sharing, it is living in a commune, helping each other and sharing the work and the wealth.

It worked fine until the Bishops conspired with Constantine to become the "Official Religion" of Rome. From that point on, Christianity became all about power, where the religion was used to keep the peons and serfs in their place, with their neck under the boot of their oppressors. ( your rewards are not in this life but the next) Except the Bishops did get their rewards, living in opulence in the material world.

It is much like how the right ignores most of the Constitution to step on the rights of the minorities and those they oppose.
12 months ago: What are you talking about? What did I write that justifies greed, cruelty, and materialism.

You need to learn to read. I clearly stated that Christ is against greed and materialism.

Also, why are you bringing up homosexuality again? Do you have some kind of obsession with them? You seem to go there quite often these days.

Also, money is not bad. It's neutral. It's a tool that when its in the right hands can be of tremendous benefit to those who have and to those who need it.

If someone wants to be poor by choice fine. Just don't look for a handout.

BTW - Where is it stated that Jesus wanted us to live in a commune? We are instructed to go into all the world. How can you do that in a Christian huddle? Just what the devil ordered.

You quote scriptures but evidently you have no clue as to what Christ is trying to get over. Obviously you can't anyway because Jesus said His sheep hear His voice. By your own admission you are not one of His sheep therefore you don't know His voice.

If folks want to be poor, be poor. That's their choice. If it's your choice you are entitled to that as well.

We are called not to fix our hope on the uncertainty of riches, but we are not called to live in caves and eat dirt either.

What I do know is this, God owns it all. As His child I am to be well provided for. From that position I have the resources to help others. Again, how can you feed a family if you are broke?

Al - you have a lot to offer from time to time, but all due respect, that last post typifies the dumb and ignorant thinking that keeps people in bondage. I'm surprised you went there. Even though we disagree from time to time, I thought you were smarter than that.
Coloranter Raver
Coloranter Raver
Denver, CO
12 months ago: Lots of forked tongues talking. I agree with Altruist 100%. It has become the right wing soup du jour to either (a) misquote scripture or (b) cull a line, paragraph or even entire parable out of context and misapply it's meaning to reach a new end – dastardly stuff if you ask me.

Fortunately for me, I have some great friends who actually do know the Bible inside and out and practice what it preaches every minute of their lives. I read them some of stuff written here by people who claim to know the Bible and the scripture and they were aghast. They immediately pointed me to this as an example that refutes much of what is being said in this thread.

The situation was no different when Jesus was on earth. The religious leaders showed a complete lack of concern for the poor and needy. The religious leaders were described as "money lovers" who 'devoured the houses of the widows' and who were more concerned about keeping their traditions than caring for the aged and the needy. (Luke 16:14; 20:47; Matthew 15:5, 6) It is of interest that in Jesus' parable of the good Samaritan, a priest and a Levite on seeing an injured man walked past him on the opposite side of the road rather than turn aside to help him.—Luke 10:30-37.

Finally, Jesus most certainly was not an advocate for the accumulation of wealth, and your treatise in no uncertain terms fails to build any case that he was a capitalist or supported capitalism. God gave every living being gifts and talents. No where did he ever imply that we were to use those for personal gain. That is a ludicrous assertion.
12 months ago: Coloranter Raver - welcome to the party.

Luke 12 is a total refutation of materialism and selfishness. And I agree with it wholeheartedly.

That being said, Jesus was not destitute when He walked the earth and his children should not be either. That does not mean all of his followers are to be millionaires, however we should seek to be in a position where we are able to provide not just for ourselves and our families, but have the ability to help out others in need as well.

There will be seasons where we suffer lack, and there will be seasons when we have abundance. Neither position is more spiritual that the other. What we do with what we have when we have it is what matters. How does our heart lead us to use what we have been blessed with is most important.

For instance you mentioned the Good Samaritan who happened along. The man had a horse, had clean clothes to make bandages, had oil and wine for the wounds and had money to pay the innkeeper. Those are good things. The poor guy that got robbed and stomped would have probably died if that kind hearted Samaritan didn't have the material means to help him.

Having stuff is not bad. The problem is when stuff has US.

If I posted something that you feel is in biblical error, was not related in the spirit of Christ or am speaking with a forked tongue, please correct me directly.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
12 months ago: It's funny how some can brush off the glaring truths, such as those that Huey pointed out, in order to further their own agendas.

What is sad, though, is that those same people will pick and choose Jesus's words, and claim Jesus is on their side, all while mocking Jesus' main message: "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but through me."

Jesus didn't invent communism. Jesus didn't live in a commune. Communes have been around since the dawn of civilization, when people first started to band together to help ensure their survival. It is a very primitive social structure, and usually works out to the greatest benefit to the leader of the commune. Lions live in communes, and wolves live in communes. So do prairie dogs, bees, and ants. There is nothing sophisticated and advanced about the concept.
12 months ago: "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but through me."

They don't like that part Box, so they ignore it.

The exclusivity of Jesus' claims is something that those who teach "tolerance" won't tolerate.

Again Jesus' agenda is to be the Lord of our individual lives. We won't accept that, quoting other scriptures is meaningless.
Coloranter Raver
Coloranter Raver
Denver, CO
12 months ago: Let's not bring out or discuss what non-human animals do as examples of anything that has to do with human beings and their behavior. I don't think most people want to go there.

Why is sad for some people to pick and choose what Jesus said for their arguments but brilliant for other people to do it? Maybe no one should do it? You think?
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
12 months ago: Are you implying there is something different about the human animal? But none-the-less, if comparing the human species to other species in the animal world makes you uncomfortable, then merely look to the "savages" in our own species. They have been living communally for untold thousands of years. It really doesn't take a rocket scientist to form a commune. And you aren't likely to get many achievers out of one.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
12 months ago: "Why is sad for some people to pick and choose what Jesus said for their arguments but brilliant for other people to do it? Maybe no one should do it? You think? "

Absolutely. Positively. I couldn't agree with you more.

Talent = Hebrew unit of currency
12 months ago: Jesus' efforts resulted in Christianity. Often overlooked is the difference he created in mankind's thinking.

Before Jesus - a priest acted as a lawyer between you and God.
After Jesus - each person has a direct relationship with God.

Society in those days supported a Priest class. Their job was to assign blame. And tell you how much it would cost you (all monies going to God's business) to lift the blame they assigned.

Imagine today: Enron cheats everyone. To get back in good with God, Enron's CEO goes to the Temple, finds out how much blame God lays on the company, and pays the blame - lifting donation to the Temple. Jesus made the difference, his historical appearance ended the Priest class who added little value to the final product.
12 months ago: I like what Huey said, however one needs to realize that Jesus wasn't "rich" by any means... he had a group of women that supported the ministry of Jesus out of their own means...

"Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's business manager; Susanna; and many others who were contributing from their own resources to support Jesus and his disciples." (Luke 8:3)

...also the robes that Jesus had at His crucification were put on Him to mock Him. God is not against wealth, but the love of it, the accumulation of it, and greed of it... in the face of poverty that we can alleviate; is the heartless attitude that Jesus rebuked. Also, John the Baptist said...

"And he answered them, "Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise." (Luke 3:11)
12 months ago: "When the soldiers crucified Jesus, they took his clothes, dividing them into four shares, one for each of them, with the undergarment remaining. This garment was seamless, woven in one piece from top to bottom.

"Let's not tear it," they said to one another. "Let's decide by lot who will get it."

John 19:23-24

TB - I agree that Jesus was not "rich" but he was not poor, homeless and destitute either.

I believe a lot of folks use that poor image of Jesus to make themselves feel better. As if being poor makes you closer to God. That's nonsense in the highest order. There are plenty of greedy and materialistic folks out there that haven't got a dime.

Neither poverty or wealth are defining characteristics of holiness. It is the condition of one's heart that ultimately matters.
Coloranter Raver
Coloranter Raver
Denver, CO
12 months ago: Thank you, yes! It's very important that people not try to manipulate the truth of the Bible nor the life of Jesus to imply he would have favored the greed and competition for wealth driven by capitalism. There is no way on earth that Jesus would have supported these ideas or concept. Capitalism breed materialism which, of course, was the opposite of what God wanted for us. This whole thread and the original post are dastardly and some would say misguided.
12 months ago: How is having the material resources to provide for yourself, your family and others against the teachings of Jesus?

Hmmm?

Is making an honest living dastardly in your book? I can't get to that but Inquiring minds want to know.
12 months ago: Colorado.

Respectfully, NUTS.

Jesus said what Jesus said. You think he was talking about the lottery?

You socialists...er..uh... progressives CANNOT FACE THE TRUTH.

What did he say Colorado? Read it again. Face it Colorado. What did he say? Jesus said it. Period.

Dastardly? Does that mean your leaving Rantrave again for a time?

Period.
12 months ago: so, Does Communism then breed utopia?

Colorado?!? !.. You are a communist?!?!?!

Holy Cow Colorado!

Look at what you said man.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
12 months ago: Terryeo is right that Jesus attempted to change the status of the religious leaders and priests.

"Before Jesus - a priest acted as a lawyer between you and God.
After Jesus - each person has a direct relationship with God."

"Society in those days supported a Priest class. Their job was to assign blame. And tell you how much it would cost you (all monies going to God's business) to lift the blame they assigned. "

The 1st 300 years, each person had a direct relationship with God. They called that type of mysticism Gnosticism. There were hundreds of sacred gnostic texts.

Of course once Christianity became merged with the Roman religions of Sol Invictus, and Mithrism, at the Council of Nicea, and Christianity became the official religion of Rome, then the priest culture returned where the priests, along with the Roman leaders, told the Christians what they could or could not believe.

They had all of the Gnostic writings and all of the writings of the women, burned and made it against the law, punishable by death, to read them. Christianity became just another way for the oppressors to control the common people.
12 months ago: Each person TODAY has an opportunity to have a personal and direct relationship with God. One can talk about all kinds of side issues, but it doesn't change the facts.

Anyone who wants to look up other texts has the right to do that as well. There are plenty of Gnostic texts that are out there if folks want to read them. Go ahead. If you compare them to what included in the 66 books of the Bible they are sorely inferior and not worth the paper they are printed on for the most part. Another smoke screen.

Anyone who believes giving their life to Christ places themselves under oppression is a fool. The reality is just the opposite.

BTW - there is a big difference between following the Lord and bending the knee to the religious establishment. Some just can't seem to get to the difference because they have such an axe to grind it blinds their eyes.

Also, Jesus did not attempt to change the status of the religious leaders and the priests. He did it.

"And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen." (Rev 1:6 KJV)

In this day and age where all believers have been made kings and priests they do indeed place themselves under bondage. But it is not a bondage that comes from obedience to Christ but from ignorance.

12 months ago: I should add - they place themselves under bondage specifically when they do not know who they are and what they have been made to be.

Jesus is not the author of communism or any "ism" for that matter.

He is Lord.
12 months ago: Again, what Huey said.
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12 months ago: Thanks Red.

They have NO argument. It's as if making an honest living, providing for one's family and sharing and giving to others is wrong unless you are a communist. That's just dumb and I challenge anyone to call me on it.

There is nothing wrong with saving and investing. Anyone who does not do that is a fool.

Jesus teaches us to be stewards of what has been entrusted to us. We must realize that we actually own nothing. It all has been entrusted to us. We are to be conduits to what has been entrusted to us. Any so-called Christian, Liberal or Conservative who does not understand that has some serious mental and spiritual deficiencies.

Mr. Coloranter tried to shoot down the argument by bringing up the Good Samaritan, yet he missed the point. He gets it now because I put it in his face in a way that he could not ignore it. Yep, those religious leaders were hypocrites. However had the Samaritan not had the resources to help, all his good intentions would have been worthless.

Again, if folks choose to be poor go ahead. However poverty is not God's best for us and wearing it like a badge simply shows the ignorance of the individual that accepts that as their lot in life.

If a Christian wants to take a vow of poverty, go ahead. Just don't embarrass yourself by acting like everyone has to be as foolish as you are.

"Fortunately for me, I have some great friends who actually do know the Bible inside and out and practice what it preaches every minute of their lives. I read them some of stuff written here by people who claim to know the Bible and the scripture and they were aghast. They immediately pointed me to this as an example that refutes much of what is being said in this thread."

Aghast? Aghast about what? Aghast probably because their sacred cows have been slain before their very eyes.

If they know so much, bring it here.

Okay. Refute what I've said. Directly and point by point. I don't think so.
Contrary to popular opinion, not all Christians roll over when asked to do so.

Like I said, materialism is wrong. Greed is wrong. But poverty is a curse and no one should want to live under a curse. A Christian has been redeemed from that curse whether the world likes it or not, understands it or not, cares or not. It makes no difference.

I don't believe I will get a direct response because all we have posted here by the "nay-sayers" is a bunch of yang. A bunch of yang from folks who don't know Christ acting like they know what He is about. Please.

The fact is, if they did know Him and followed His teachings they would not post such non-sense. In fact they would bow their knee and give the proper respect. Don't think they are willing to do that so they need to leave it alone and stop quoting stuff they obviously don't understand.

One should study their Bible before sword fighting, okay? The arguments are laughable and meaningless otherwise.

He owns it all and if we are his disciples we are His joint-heirs. We are priests and kings.

No religious establishment, no political ideology, and no amount of persecution will ever change that.

We are blessed to be a blessing and if folk don't like it, tough tomatoes.

Run that stuff on somebody else 'cause it's not going to fly here. He is Lord.

markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
12 months ago: As seen in the original post and Al's rebuttal, you can quote whatever bits of the Bible to imagine whatever form of Jesus you want and that's why there's countless multitudes of Christian sects that often have nothing in comment except the word Jesus. However, to the point, I'll refer you to a very enlightening article that Gary Gutter wrote here 12 months ago:

http://www.rantrave.com/Rave/Will-the-Ne...

I'll re-quote a comment I made to OOTB at that time with respect to the requirement by Jesus that you sell everything you own to have eternal life.

"You don't have to give and of course you're not obligated, but according to Jesus, if you want eternal life, you better get busy on Ebay and start selling EVERYTHING you have, and be cheerful about it. By the way, Ebay makes it easy to donate the proceeds to charity"
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
12 months ago: I believe this was my reply

"...."a certain ruler" who loved his money and possessions more than he loved God. Jesus knew by his answers that the fellow did not know himself, as he stated he was pretty much free of sin already. But Jesus knew that the young man was guilty of breaking a commandment. "Thou shalt have no other god before Me." That is why the young man was sad. He would have to choose between his money and his salvation.

Money is necessary. Jesus had a sack full of the stuff....."
sunny2
sunny2
12 months ago: The way I see it if you are down and out you sell what you have to get through and then get back on track. I earned it in the first place.
All we need in common is to respect the name of Jesus and live as best as we can in his name.
Living enlightens me. No one person can preach or teach anything unless he has lived life to the fullest and sacrificed a lot.
12 months ago: That speak exactly to what I am saying.

The Rich Young Ruler that is being referred to allowed his possessions to get between himself and an opportunity for salvation.

Jesus knew this cat was covetous and He called him on it. The Ruler went away empty handed because his possessions had him.

We ARE NOT required to sell all we have to gain eternal life, we ARE required to give it all to Him. Big difference.

We are not to live as burdens on society with our hands ever out begging. That's just dumb thinking.

Jesus is not against us having wealth. He is not against us having a nice house, He is not against us driving a decent vehicle that actually runs, He is not against us providing for our families, or our children's education or funding our retirement.

Not only that, our cup is to run over. Our blessing is to spill onto others so that they have too. Understand?

Some may not like it, but that's the truth.

"I have come that you may have life and that more abundantly."

Poverty is a curse. If some want to live under the curse go ahead. Just don't try to brush it off on me. I am blessed to be a blessing.

He is LORD.
sunny2
sunny2
12 months ago: Huey I don't think Jesus is against anything we do if it is for the good.
I agree with what you have said.
sunny2
sunny2
12 months ago: Since God made the Earth exist this long, I'm sure he would want us to grow with it into modern times which would be entirely different than biblical times. Of course, some things never change, and we are expected to live by certain rules. We have the ability to achieve more goals in these times, and with it comes wealth. Since life continues ever after, I'm sure we will continue to learn and advance and possibly be rewarded with a better way of life with no politicians to beat on us. God rewards us for our hard work with blessings. When you obtain wealth, you can help others in need. It's all good.
sunny2
sunny2
12 months ago: You have people walking around the streets of NYC today waiting to be scooped up into Heaven on May 21st. Give me a break. They said they took care of their pets as they were suppose to do. People are making money off of this nonsense.
Oh My God people are going off the deep end. Live for today. I didn't get that Article that Gutter wrote. Sorry. I found it to be showy and that was it. I would never use those words concerning Jesus. Why do people make life so complicated?
If they only learned to accept, that is all you need to do. You take each day one by one and deal with it and let God do the rest. Sunny

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