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Jesus In The UFC

Posted 14 months ago|41 comments|1,237 views
WWJD? Jesus... Wouldn't TAPOUT !:]
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"...has anyone else besides myself here ever had the hilarious thought of how many fighters are Christians and pray and believe Jesus helps them knock people unconscious...destroy people, choke them unconscious, end careers and hurt them in the most violent way possible?? I mean I dont think Jesus(unless your talking about Family Guy Jesus) would be at a UFC event or support hurting others for money...when Jones won and he thanked above all Jesus( or when any fighter does it)...I honestly always chuckle a little bit...am i alone?? probably
http://forums.ufc.production.sparkart.ne...

Wow! OK, I have really been looking forward to this topic, you could say I'm Pumped! If you have an aversion to getting your *** kicked for fun, you probably won't want to read this, and you most definitely won't want to "share" my thoughts on Jesus in the UFC.

Jon (Bones) Jones not only took the belt in UFC 128 March 19/11... but he warmed up by "tappin-out" a car-jacker! That's right, 2 hours before his UFC Title Fight with Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua, JONES along with his coaching staff took down a car-jacker!
AS they say in TX "I tell you what!" ...this dude is "all-over-God" and thankful to be living, breathing... and preaching at some guy they just caught stealing.
SOME may think Jones should leave Jesus out of the Octagon...
but if someone was "jackin" you... you would want Jones in your corner, Jesus and all!

I love these guys! They love God, and love to pound the crap out of their adversary...
some would ask WWJD? and I say Jesus made it very clear what He's doing to His enemies in the end of time... and you can bet there will be no holds barred!
And there won't be any "tap-outs" allowed... as in the last book of the Bible, Revelation;
there is a picture of the King of Kings riding in on a white horse with His robes dipped in the blood of His enemies...

"He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God." Revelation 19:13

I like Mark Driscoll's take on Jesus Christ, MMA, and the UFC...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddFbELpXT...

I don't know where we got the idea that Jesus is a pansy or a weakling... He took everything this world and the next, could throw at Him, and raised Himself from the dead! What were we thinking, wasn't it a sure sign of what was coming, when Jesus made a cord and whipped those money changers out of the temple? He is about to do that and more on His Return. While the world is whining that "this kind of Jesus" isn't politically correct enough... He will be "treading the wine press" ... that means wiping the floor with the fools that dared draw people away from His love, grace and mercy!

I get a kick out of those mock UFC fights... one is called Jesus vs Satan. YOU gotta know that God has no "opposite" ...all the fighting in the Bible with Satan and his forces, is with Angels and Mankind. That's right! The opposite of Satan would be... say, Michael the Arch Angel... not the Creator God Jesus Christ! Duh?!? That is why it says that in the end Lucifer will be destroyed merely by the words out of Jesus' mouth...

"And then shall that Wicked (one, will) be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the Spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming:"
2 Thessalonians 2:8

That is why we must fight the good fight, fight for what's true and good, and stand for God in this wicked and perverse generation. I am not saying that UFC is God's gift to mankind, I am saying it is a picture of what we must do in battling the lies and false teachings that could destroy our souls. These guys fight to win... yet in the end, no malice is intended... we too may war, not against our neighbor, but against deception and lies and immorality, that will eventually destroy our lives and our nations.

[So for you souls that are "anti-Christ" in the UFC...
...let me put it in the words of Dr. Phil... GET OVER IT !:]

"So I do not run aimlessly; I do not box as one beating the air. ...have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith." 1 Corinthians 9:26, 2 Timothy 4:7
UPDATE - 1 month ago
"Don't Waste Your Life" by John Piper
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markbyrn
markbyrn
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14 months ago: As I nothing but disdain for far left hypocrites as they adjure government to
crusade against pugilism (e.g. NY and UFC), I'll briefly concur with the absurd notion that an blood-lusting anthropomorphic deity is rooting for UFC.

After all, you can imagine whatever you want when it comes to deities and when it come to sport, players regularly bring superstition into the field of play although sport itself can become a form of idolatry for the fans (fanatics) that worship at it's big $$$$ alter. Isn't that irony for you.

See:

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2010...
14 months ago: Mark,

Were you hoping for more... from a hypocrite like me? You would be the first to say, what people do with their money is their business... and you surely wouldn't judge another's motives now would you? Which "big $$$$ alter" do you "worship" at? ...or are you anti-competition-sports... and want all the little children to go home with a trophy? Or on principle, exclude people of faith from the military?
14 months ago: Mark,

If you were to humor a poor mindless "faither"
...if an Almighty God did exist, wouldn't it be rude not to give Him thanks in everything?

"...give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you." 1Thess 5:18
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
14 months ago: I wasn't calling you a hypocrite or a a sports idolater; perhaps I was unclear. I'm all for sports including UFC but idolatry of sport leads to absurdities such as athletes and owners getting paid mega millions and billions for the owners while somebody in the military such as a highly trained Navy SEAL will get comparatively small change.

The same applies to the broader entertainment field - actors like Charlie Sheen getting paid $2 Million dollars per TV episode is astonishing. That's not to say athletes and actors shouldn't get what the market is willing to pay them but it does say something about our society's priorities.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
14 months ago: ...if an Almighty God did exist, wouldn't it be rude not to give Him thanks in everything?

That's presumptuous and only an imaginary deity needs a spokesman to tell the rest of us to thank the imaginary deity for everything. It's the same presumptuousness that causes some religious athletes to claim that their deity is giving them some kind of competitive advantage or that their deity is going to help their team win.
14 months ago: Mark,

Ok, I see where you are coming from, and I couldn't agree more! Iodizing sports figures compared to any public service, like police force or other is unconscionable. My Rave is just focusing on the relevance faith has in every aspect of life, or as some would say if it had any at all.

[It would appear that we agree again! That is 2 1/2 times... cool !:]
14 months ago: Mark,

We are not being presumptuous, rather we are obeying what we hold to be the Word of God; the Bible preserved for mankind as and instruction manual... if you will. And it says that we are to both show our faith by sharing it, and our gratitude for receiving it. Trust me, I wasn't always a "freak of faith" ...I was living, breathing and functioning member of the human race... I just have no choice now because something happened to me that cannot be undone. As much as I can sympathize with the "intellectuals" ...my experience in Jesus Christ is the most intelligently honest thing I can share. Many lives are changed for the best... in the process you call delusion.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
14 months ago: TB, The major religions all have a 'bible' that imagine up a deity to suit their needs and to keep it on topic, people can employ their imaginary deity to either lambast a sport or promote a sport to include promoting a team or individual in sport. It's no more real than believing a rabbit's foot will bring you good luck but if it gives them a positive placebo effect, great.

But take it with a grain of salt and avoid use conflicting views of imaginary deities to decide whether the sport is good or bad.
14 months ago: Mark,

With respect, the Bible we affirm is also affirmed by a real person of history, that proves Himself alive to anyone who calls upon His name for salvation... Jesus Christ. His connection with the UFC is merely associational by the souls who represent and glorify His Name... some winners some losers and some compete against each other...

List the current major MMA champions and you find that most ascribe to Christianity: Franklin, Hughes, Silva, as did former UFC light heavyweight and heavyweight champ, Randy Couture. Other great fighters in that category are Shogun Rua, Matt Lindland, Josh Barnett, Nathan Marquardt, Rampage Jackson, Vitor Belfort, and various others.
http://christianfighter.blogspot.com/200...
14 months ago: "I realize there are great fighters who are non-Christians. But that fact does nothing to undermine the interesting connection between Christian faith and fighting success. The best fighters in the world continue to be predominantly Christian in orientation, which I think requires some form of explanation. Does God truly protect those who are faithful to Him (as expressed in the Psalms and other places), at least in some important cases?"
http://christianfighter.blogspot.com/200...
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
14 months ago: And there wouldn't be a UFC without Dana White; in fact those alleged Christian fighters are enriching him. So let's checkout what Dana White has to say about religion:

"UFC President Dana White is the interview subject in the September issue of Playboy, and in his typically profane manner, White hits on some hot topics both in and, especially, out of the Octagon.

On religion, White reveals that he's an atheist: "I don't believe in God, the devil, ghosts or any of that s---," White says. "But I'm still fascinated by religion -- how violent and crazy it is. That stuff sticks with you." See:

http://is.gd/AFiVyv

Aren't you glad to hear the man is rational?
14 months ago: Mark,

It is no mystery that we have those in sports or politics that are atheists... it is ironic though that God has His kids compete toe-to-toe and kick butt... and He gets the thanks in the most unlikely places. Jesus is still hanging with prostitutes and sinners of all sorts !:]
14 months ago: Mark,

I was thinking about what you said earlier about the Bible and how writers have imagined all this up... have you ever considered if that was true, how great those minds were? I mean all that detail, genealogies, and information to match modern archeological science? Not to mention collaborating with their contemporaneous hieroglyphics and parchments... what a grand imagination... Mmmm! You would think these guys at least "psychic" ...if not inspired by God Himself !:]
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14 months ago: TB said "I mean I dont think Jesus(unless your talking about Family Guy Jesus) would be at a UFC event or support hurting others for money..."

I thought Jesus was everywhere.
14 months ago: Hi Slim,

...if you look closer I am responding to and article against people praying to Jesus in extreme sports... and you are right Jesus is everywhere !:]
14 months ago: Slim ...that was not my quote.
14 months ago: Yes sir it was your quote. Four lines from the top. Dont be back peddeling now. Own up. And remember other slaves of Jesus may disagree with you but, I say gleefully your all mistaken. Jesus is at the UFC and he came for the NACHOS!
14 months ago: Slim,

You mean... MACHOs !:]
14 months ago: Oh i see you were butchering the grammatical structure of someone elses writing. well at least you gave them credit. But seriously its the nachos. He likes em extra spicy.
14 months ago: Slime Pickens,

You are such a dork !:]
That's why I think you're funny.... LOOKIN !:]
14 months ago: Slime Pickens,

Seriously, I thought you were out saving the world... one iPod review at a time !:]
14 months ago: Slim,

It's good to see you're BACK... Don't let the door hit you on the way out !:]
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markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
14 months ago: I keep trying to get Truth to do proper citations - hopefully he's learned his lesson now :)
14 months ago: Mark,

I am a little slow on the up-take, I just might have to change my ways in the way I layout my posts !:]
14 months ago: I want to know what Bible the major religions, such as Earthers, Greenines, ClimateGaters, etc, follow. What about the major political religions? What Bible do they follow?
14 months ago: Depends on the day of the week, the phase of the moon and in which house the goddess resides. Judachrisolicism
14 months ago: Slim,

Are you Obnoxioust? Or do you know for certain that there is no God?
14 months ago: I know for absolute sure there is a God. Its the rest of the organized BS that you slaves of the ancient pen seem to think is necessary to prove your faithfulness ( and others damnation) that I find repulsive. Repulsive meaning it makes me want to run right over and give ya a little crap.
14 months ago: Slim,

Thanks for being a little transparent, I agree that there is a lot of garbage in religion. Who is this "God" ...and by definition should we worship and obey him/her/it?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/g...

If we model a god after our own imagination, or beliefs... the one who is god is ourselves because the "god" we have imagined is only a production of our thought. I think that is why people opt for that form of god... it leaves them in control, and what remains is not "god" at all... but only a fantasy.

The Biblical version of God would have us all serve Him, and be dependent on Him for eternal life... the worldly view would have God serve us... and have us dependent on our own works or "body positions" and diet to improve our lives. The Bible view has God re-creating us for ours and another's good... with a real revelation from God personally to confirm the Words of God, through men in the Bible. Mostly people don't like that type of God, because it leaves no room morally. That is why many opt for the Crowley version of religion... "Do what thou wilt."

This is the heart of the Occult... "Do what thou wilt, shall be the law..." ...not do what God says, do what you want, with whomever you want to do it with. This leaves you as a "god" ...and in a grand delusion!

Where as Jesus Christ, as the God of the Bible says... "Follow Me"
14 months ago: Sorry it took so long to get back to this.

I commend you for your unwavering adherence to what can only be surmised as the fairy tale of the ages. I see past the worldly writings of men who seek to control me thru my faith.

My faith ends with the existence of a higher power. It does not now nor will it ever accept unfounded rehashed and re written words in a book clearly designed to justify the futile existence of these creatures called man.

Surprisingly I understand the need for civil engineering, especially in the case of ancient man who in truth needed a manual designed to ensure the continuance of the species. that time however has passed.

Don't you ever find it strange that no one comes forth from the fields these days proclaiming that he has received the word from gods own lips? That when such people do appear they are routinely discredited by the both the church and secular leadership as heretics or mentally inferior and in most cases are killed?

My faith ends with the knowledge that god exists and that we are likely no more then motes of dust in his eye. It does not extend to the worship of the ancient text that in my mind has subverted the very entity they seek to promote.

Is not worship of the bible not akin to that of that of the golden lamb and other false idols? Do we not see the dichotomy of such worship in regards to the very same word we put forward as unvarnished truth?
14 months ago: HUH? I don't find it strange at all since there is only one God, Christ and Holy Ghost. Need I remind you that it is also written to those that receive the direct word of God to seal their lips and witness. Trust me. There are many witnesses.
14 months ago: Not many sealed lips though.. huh Huh ?
14 months ago: Referring to whom? Huh huh?
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14 months ago: TCG,

You say... "What Bible do they follow?"

I think that it is called... The Book of Matches ...[think about it !:]
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
14 months ago: The Bible was written by men who imagined up an anthropomorphic deity and go figure, the imaginary deity was grossly misogynist. See "The Horrible Treatment of Women in the Bible":

http://biblebabble.curbjaw.com/women.htm

No wonder it took women so long to get the right to vote (55 years after slavery ended) just to overcome religious superstition and get the right to vote. BTW, it was rational secularism that overcome that superstition and in countries where fundamentalist religion is the law of the land, women get repressed (i.e. Islamic States)

Slim's quote, "Its the rest of the organized BS that you slaves of the ancient pen seem to think is necessary to prove your faithfulness ( and others damnation) that I find repulsive." is spot-on. How can you even fathom a perverted deity that would require a woman to make a sin offering for menstruating?
14 months ago: Mark,

Now we are getting somewhere... I like it when people cite particular reasons for not believing in God... that way when those concerns are addressed... one can carry on t to believe... unhindered. As to all the laws for sacrifice... they were just a shadow of things to come... to be completed in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ...

"For since the law has but a shadow of the good things to come instead of the true form of these realities, it can never, by the same sacrifices that are continually offered every year, make perfect those who draw near." Hebrews 10:1
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14 months ago: Mark,

I noticed that your link didn't feature "the women of ill repute" in Jesus' own lineage... this shows the incredible grace of God and the promise He has if we are willing to identify ourselves with Him...

"Four Women
Another interesting anomally of Matthew's genealogical list is that he mentions four women. Normally women are not mentioned in a genealogy. Each of these is a Gentile (a non Jew). Three of the four had a sinful past. They are: Tamar (pregnant by father in-law), Rahab the Harlot, Ruth (a cursed Moabitess), Bathsheba (taken from her husband, and her her husband was killed after she was made pregnant). What wonderous grace that God should so emphatically prove his undying love and forgiveness."
(make it 5 with Mary... pregnant without her husband)
http://www.ministrytoday.org/Seminars/sy...

It is funny, atheists say first the God of the Bible is cruel and is sooo judgmental, then they say do you see the evil people have on His "team" that He so easily forgives? Well, what is it?
14 months ago: "That's not all.  Exodus 21:7-10 covers the rules of selling your daughter, her master making her marry him, and then her role if he wants more wives.  I see the woman's view and feelings mattered quite a bit here."

Answer: The man in this chapter was not selling his own daughter... this Chapter in Exodus is in reference to buying a slave and giving that slave a wife and children. The master in this sense has the right to "sell" the children given to the slave. Like all slaves after so many years of service they are set free... as free-men. In the chapter it is in the context of the slave determining to serve that master forever... of his own free will after his term is up. The fact remains is that God provided a better plan for slaves than that of free-men... those who weren't "free" would have to fend for themselves... that is why many sold themselves for slaves.
14 months ago: Mark, another of your ref questions... "Exodus 22:16-17 is a real good one. If a man sleeps with an unwed virgin, he must marry her. But if her father refuses to give her to the man, then the man must pay the "pay money according to the dowry of virgins"... is this crazy or what?"

"If a man seduces a virgin[d] who is not betrothed and lies with her, he shall give the bride-price for her and make her his wife. If her father utterly refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equal to the bride-price for virgins." Exodus 22:16-17

Answer: The man did not rape her, he seduced her... if the rare case the Father doesn't want this guy for a son-in-law the man must pay the father to provider for her... (a hefty sum)... but it sure beats getting stoned to death for rape...

... interesting is the next verses in the chapter...
18Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
19Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death.
20He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.
14 months ago: Mark I went through the rest of the refs and you struck me as an intelligent individual... well, either you cheated and didn't look them up (out of context and out-right lies) or you did and don't understand English. It doesn't surprise me though... I will risk the "hate" by not answering any more drivel from that post... I don't have the time to give English lessons, along with Biblical contextual arguments.

Let it suffice to say that the context that these laws were set in... (escaping from Egypt) where child sacrifice and other atrocities... the Biblical rules were in their day, the best rules for governance. In the context of a modern society... some of these rules, out of context, may appear primitive ...yet our societies rules haven't done us much better.

Why was the ancient God so "cruel"?
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aiia/a...
14 months ago: Mark and Slim,

For more info on application of legal sections of the Old Testament Law and IF it applies today, please do some homework. A good place to find an outline for such study is...
http://www.theologicalstudies.org/page/p...

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