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How 99ers Can Make Money Writing Online for RantRave

Posted 16 months ago|48 comments|1,264 views
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Residual Income - Writing Online to Earn Money

RantRave is a more than just a site to write your opinions on the current state of the world. It is a revenue share site that offers the opportunity to make 100% of every ad spot 100% of the time. Although there is at least one other site that offers writers all of their ad revenue all of the time, RantRave is unique in their high end offer. There are several legitimate revenue share sites online. These sites offer residual income opportunities to part time and full time writers. These writers are often unemployed, underemployed, disabled, hobbyists, stay at home moms and dads, or students. Anyone can do it and 99ers should start now.

How Much Money Can 99ers Earn Writing Online?

The income potential is limited only by your work ethic and drive to learn what it takes to earn money online. Residual income site earnings pay many people's rent around the world. Many posts by 99ers say they are desperate. RantRave and other revenue share writing sites are at least a partial solution to the 99ers unemployed position. If you are worried about losing your unemployment by writing online, check your local unemployment laws specifically about how they deal with self-employment earnings that are labeled "royalties" as far as taxes are concerned.

There are part time and full time writers who make anywhere from pennies per month to several thousand dollars. If you are a 99er who needs money then start writing seriously for RantRave. Make sure that you are signed up for Google Adsense. Ad your ad code when you sign up. If you are a 99er that is writing articles here but have not yet signed up to make money via Adsense then you are losing money every day. Go sign up for Google Adsense.

How to Write RR Articles that Earn Money:

1. Write a good title. Don't write dumb titles that don't covey the article's message. A reader should never have to guess about the content because the title is unclear. Write a title that uses the keyword(s). Keywords are the phrases that summarize the topic you're writing on. For example, this is about how 99ers can earn money writing. Using the keywords "99ers, earn money, online writing, RantRave" is important.
2. Write 3-4 paragraphs about the topic and follow the guidelines for Google News. Write at least 350-400 words so that the article will get sent out to Google News because it will bring you a lot more views. You cannot earn anything without views. Follow Google News guidelines and the RR suggestions.
3. Write clear content. Ranting, literally, without making sense does not attract readers. It irritates them and can lose you business. If you think about your writing on RantRave as a business opportunity then dig in and learn the tricks. Some helpful topics to read more about are keyword research and search engine optimization, two important aspects of earning money writing online.

If you follow those three tips then you should see an increase in your views. There are other ways to increase your views, like backlinking and submitting your articles to social bookmarking sites. If you decide to pursue writing online to earn extra money then you will eventually learn more about backlinking.

Why Should 99ers Write at RantRave to Make Money

Why not. Seriously, the amount of money that you can make writing online at various sites is unlimited. It is contingent on your efforts. People make a good living by writing online. Anyone who needs extra money should write at RantRave. Learn and branch out to other revenue share sites to backlink and boost your earnings.

Current RR writers signed up with Adsense ought to check their Adsense ads with an Adsense ad channel. Ad appearances can increase or decrease your earnings potential. Testing ad spots is important. Learn how to set up an ad channel to find out if your current ad look works and which ad spot earns the most.

If you are someone who thinks the idea of writing articles online for money is a waste then you are throwing away an opportunity to earn great money. It will grow over time if you stick with it and dedicate yourself to learn keyword research, search engine optimization, on page optimization, keyword optimization, backlinking, indexing tips, and more. Writing online pays the bills for many. There is no reason that 99ers cannot earn money online to help offset their bills, buy groceries, and start their process of revival.
UPDATE - 13 months ago
I wrote this post to help others.
Unfortunately, I no longer advocate using RantRave.

RR was banned by Google News, but they have not taken any steps to fix this other than decrease the Adsense by 50%, which is not fixing the problem whatsoever. Despite this decrease, they still claim to pay 100% and they didn't follow their own terms when notifying members about the change. No official email or notification was sent.

RR's failure to abide by and update their terms is not a site trait that is user-friendly, especially if you use Adsense. The RR terms of service, get paid to post, and other areas of the site are outdated and misleading.

I no longer use Adsense on this site at all. I prefer to invest in sites that respect members. RantRave has neither remedied the situation that resulted in the Google News ban, nor changed the site in a positive manner. Members are not discouraged from writing posts that misinform or are low quality keyword spam, or from personally attacking others.

There is bad information on RR about Google Adsense. Backlinking is a legitimate form of search engine optimization, as long as it follows Google Adsense rules. Please read with caution claims about what constitutes "black hat SEO."

There are many sites where you can write online either using Adsense or for up front pay. Freelance writers can earn a good living online, but it takes a lot of work. I know a lot of others who work from home writing online. This is not a deceptive job at all.

Watch this video by Matt Cutts from Google about the five basic things a site needs to get found in Google. Read about search engine optimization and keyword research.

Good luck.

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16 months ago: Your picture implies "Time is Money" or vice-versa.

Really, time is our gift we have...it's really all we have, and it's worth more than money. Some people say they never have enough time, not enough seconds in a minute, minutes in an hour, hours in a day, days in a week, weeks in a month, months in a year, years in a life-time. But really, time is all we have, and I believe it is our downfall when we peg our time to the dollar, because, then we will never feel like we have enough of either.

This is a major point on the way to how I end my book, "Plutonomy."
16 months ago: A picture IS worth a thousand words!

Interesting take. I can see how you'd interpret that now that you mention it. Time is Money is not the intent of the picture though which I'd hoped to convey with the caption about time to start earning money writing.

To me, the picture represents the idea that it is time to start writing articles online and earning money. I suppose the idea of the clock in this particular picture about earning is that it is intended as a motivator. People have wasted their time here at RR with article that are non-nonsensical when they could have focused them better. Granted, it is a great little community to debate things and be opinionated, but there is another purpose of it, and that is to earn money.

I have read many articles on here about people needing money. The picture says, it is time to start earning, it is time to make a change and become self sufficient in any way possible. Writing online helps me survive.

A think there are multiple meanings for time. Although I do agree that many, too many, focus on the almighty dollar. In the end, kids who grow up with parents who provide money and not time are still robbed. Being rich is not a requirement of living, but having love and affection is crucial and changes lives.
16 months ago: *oops. I meant nonsensical.

If others have the same take on the photo leave a comment. I think it's interested how people interpret images. I have a hard time finding pictures to convey what I'm thinking. Perhaps it's a left/right brained thing...I don't know!
16 months ago: Dear Alex,

You said: "... though which I'd hoped to convey with the caption about time to start earning money writing." You mean, the picture is supposed to be about people's time is worth money, but perhaps only when they write for R&R.

I can dig that, I'm writing a book and seeking ways to promote it, although I can't be bothered trying to pick up pennies from the ad-click world. I made a long-term goal of mine to try and wean myself off the dollar, and not doing the Google ad-click deal is just one small step on the way: my writing here is done pro bono, per se.

I think there is a conflict of interest by collecting pennies off R&R, and that is writing stuff that will attract ad-clicks. For instance, if somebody writes about 99er's or UI, you get a bazillion hits, because, as The Cypress Gang pointed out, R&R has been hi-jacked by the unemployed -- how many Rest & Relaxation members are unemployed, BTW? Box, do you have a "Price is Right" guess?

However, I did say I am trying to promote a book, and I am trying to earn dollars doing that, but really, I only want to earn them by selling print and electronic versions of the whole work -- go figure. Just because that's how I roll doesn't mean others can't roll a different direction, and write prose and poesy for pennies: WWSD?
16 months ago: Everyone values their time differently. I love writing. I guess more bluntly the picture is "stop complaining--pay attention to the opportunity that you have here at RR to earn money."

Honestly, the 99er posts makes me mad when they're about being homeless and starving and begging the Gov to help or they're gonna die BUT they refuse other types of help, for example, taking advantage of the money available by writing at RR (and tons of other sites).

I have friends who make thousands/month writing online, both for ad rev and up front freelance work. I make more than pennies. If someone is hungry then why wouldn't they try to learn how to optimize something they're doing already, writing/ranting?!

What I know from my own experiences is that if I don't find resources for myself no one else will. Ya know? I'm writing a book as well. I know how to live, survive w/nothing. Writing feeds me (more than literally).

I know that a lot of people here write for the fun of it and to express their opinions. I do that as well, but I also write about things that are on my mind. There are so many things that happen in a day that people can write about and offer their opinion, etc., while earning money. I try to write about things that impact my life or those around me.

Ironically, people can flood the posts w/unemployment articles but they don't earn much. I wrote a few but it was to express my thoughts and pass off some info. If I can't add value then I don't write it.

One of my proudest RR posts is about Suboxone being used to treat people with addiction. It's the first medicine based treatment available inside a doctor's office. The NAABT read my article, signed up, and commented on it. They are a huge org that helps people find treatment and they read my article. That means something to me. Plus it helps others.
http://www.rantrave.com/Rave/Suboxone-Tr...

Being a self employed writer saves me.
16 months ago: Have you considered setting up a blog for your book? Even if you are not interested in monetizing it. It's good exposure. And, if you're not done it's always interesting to write about the process, etc., and interact with other writers. By writers, I mean authors. Anyone can write articles, but not everyone is a writer, driven to put words down...if that makes sense.

You can also sell your book through Amazon and offer the book for sale on your blog/website. Depending on how tech savvy you are or want to be with it you can actually gain a lot by utilizing online content, especially if you have something to promote, which you do--a book.

Not that you haven't though of all of that, but just thought I'd throw it out in case.
15 months ago: Listen, unemployed people. I don't get it. The 99ers come on RR to plead their cases, overtake the sites postings, and say how much they are suffering and now one person, not one 99er actually comments on this solution focused idea.

No thanks, but no thanks. Nothing. No questions about how to actually earn more or about earnings...just nothing.

There are people who actually work here. This seems like just another forum to complain and that's a shame.
Leah Healthnut
Leah Healthnut
San Jose, CA
15 months ago: (I think most of the 99ers posters are writing about homelessness and 99ers and employment extensions because those are really good keywords. I think they're already making money).
15 months ago: Ug. Yeah. True. That just makes it even worse. It's also probably why there is little substance and just repetition, among some. I guess that would also make sense why the attitude about seeking help or assistance is slapped down, by some. If the situation were as dire as is represented one might think they'd even ask further what sort of resources are out there. Maybe it just ties in to the entitlement thing.

I've written about homelessness, but it doesn't pay much. Of course, if you string those 3 together then feign one step on the street and the other in the house then it draws the sympathy...

I have always been one to understate my situation to others, even when I had the right to take up the space. So, I have never understood those who overstate or boast. It's just not my thing.

What's unfortunate is that there are a lot of people who are suffering. There are unemployed people who are now homeless. The 99ers are like bulls in a china shop here.

(thanks for the comment!)
15 months ago: I really don't think many of these 99r posters are unemployed. Many I'm sure are self employed as am I. I had been writing fiction and finding it hard to sell. I have a few interests that led me to write articles about things mostly in the mobile market. And I've found a decent forum to do so here at R&R. And the money is much much better.

Anyone who thinks it isn't work to write 5-6 thousand words a day needs to think again. It's good for me because It keeps the voices in my head down to a dull roar but for normal folk it may not be so therapeutic.

The article was good the picture was timely. Heh timely.
15 months ago: Uhhh...I think 5 or 6 thousands words a day resembles work: what have you got to say each day that demands such acreage?

What about sonnets and other short forms -- do they not give you a breather while still being potent? I hope you're paid by the word, although it seems the by-product of such typing is therapeutic, as you mention.

Think about it...25,000 to 30,000 words per work week, 100-120K words per month, 1.2 to 1.44 million words per year...damn that's a lot of words, where do you get them all? I admit to making up a few, here and there, but you must really be getting some mileage out of the ones we use in English -- do you ever write in other languages to stretch your self out a bit, it gets awfully cramped in the Oxford Attic...

Question is your time more money or more words, or are words the beats of time, and therefore, money too? Do you write in rhythm...tap, ti tap, tap ti, tap titi, tap...feel the heart pumping, tap some more, be the tap, be the ti, be the tap-ti...

So how much money do you make off R&R, and how many of your words does R&R get compared to other places? I don't make a single dime off R&R because I can't be bothered since it seems like a few pennies per day, and I'm trying my best to wean myself off the dollar, starting with the pennies first, then I'll quit the dollars, and one day, I'll quit the thousands too, but I'm not quite there yet.
15 months ago: Lots of assumptions here, don't you think? One man's junk, another man's treasure...I don't think you'd like it much if he said your book excerpts are crap, would you? Play nice. Or at least fair.

Less is better when it comes to writing online. If I write a 1000 word piece for RR it will probably not fare as well as a 500-650 word piece. There are programs that pay by the word, but not here, as you already know I'm guessing.

So, when you say "time is money" what do you MEAN exactly? You've mentioned weaning yourself from money many times. You mention pennies frequently, but then say you're not ready for the thousands. So, does this imply your time is worth more? Are you saying what you're doing is noble? I'm not sure I understand.

Anyone who has tried to write here and ONLY brought in pennies and then faulting Adsense or the lowly pay of writing usually doesn't realize that it is actually THEM that creates only pennies. It's the content, title, and a few other things. It is the most common thing that happens after people fail to make money online. They get frustrated then and slam those who do write online, for the Benjamins. That's not a personal slam, Plutonomy. I don't know if that's what happened w/you or if you just don't care about making money online, and either is fine cause it's your choice, right?

I think they say around 50,000 words is enough for a novel. I'm sure most of us who do this writing have written volumes. I have. But, I'm also writing other things as well. It does keep me well-rounded.
15 months ago: Alex, I think it is just cheap and easy to write about junk consumer products ad infinitum to get Ad Clicks: you are what you write.

Sure writing reviews on things is legit R&R so people can determine if they want to see a particular movie, eat at a restaurant, and so on, like it was "word of mouth" style, but promoting mindless consumer junk for Ad Clicks like a huckster is not.

R&R says posts are spam if they are readily found elsewhere on the web: please go to CNET, they have real, professional tech reviews: I would NEVER trust an amateur on the topic of tech reviews, and the fact that there are some who do, proves the point they have been huckstered -- for Ad Clicks. I would quickly scan the "user reviews" at CNET because they are short and to the point without the long drawn out rhetoric of someone trying to get the reader to make an "Ad Click." If a Sony shill is writing a faux "user review," so be it, there are others not just slathering 5 stars to be considered.

How about Consumer Reports? You gotta pay up front for membership, but then you get the force of a non-profit, independent group, comprised of professionals in the fields they test, they are known for impartiality, and have been doing it for decades. Plus, they're good writers too.

Maybe the bigger point is why I am so annoyed by people writing whatever sells Ad Clicks on R&R: where is the integrity? Is the almighty dollar actually worth more than your time? Your gift is time, and to use it up writing for Ad Clicks is so wrong: it's wrong because it drives the content of the writing, it's wrong because the time you have is used trying to equally maim others' time reading such writing, and perhaps the saddest thing of it all is that such readers actually do click on ads after reading a poor substitute for what can be easily found elsewhere on the internet. Ask yourself: what is the substance of your time, ergo, the substance of your life?

When I say "I can't be bothered" to sign up for google Ad Clicks is for the above reasons. I can't imagine wanting to make money by getting people to click on ads, I stopped watching TV in 1983, I don't watch it now, and the main reason is that I am repelled by the Nielsen ratings = cost for commercials = lifespan of the TV show: sure MASH was the best show ever, it just stopped selling Charmin toilet paper at a certain rate of rolls/ show.

I was totally naive about R&R when I stumbled onto it thanks to a well written Google-linked article on plutocracy by Cully Wagoner: it was then I thought this site would be perfect to serially release my little book "Plutonomy," and it has only been since then that I have seen the dark side of R&R: it's not just the swearing, racist posters on the comment threads, its the hucksters too, who are here just for Ad Clicks and multiple recipe postings.

I heard someone say on the low end of the radio dial that "We know your time is worth more than money, and that's why we ask you today to sign up and ring the bell for the holidays on behalf of the Salvation Army." What the? Is she saying we know your time is worth more than the pennies going into the pot? Or that your time fundraising for the poor is precious and selfless, and so much more valuable than any money you make for yourself on the time-clock? Or that no money is ever worth the time you spend helping others? I'm not sure what she meant, as it was clear from the broadcaster she was ad libbing, but she did mean something, and ambiguous as it was, it came from her heart, not mind, and it was designed to get people to help raise pennies for the poor.

I have written "Plutonomy" to demonstrate who has the power and how they wield it, and it would be hypocritical to the whole point of the book to tailor it for maximizing Ad Clicks, and you are telling people how to tailor their writing to maximize Ad Clicks. So that's the main reason why I disagree with you on the article you'v
15 months ago: I agree that there is a LOT of BS on here. I hate the racism and I don't know why those comments are allowed. I also think that crap should be deleted. There are 3-4 people off the top of my head that should be stopped from further posting because they fill up the site w/the same BS every day. I do not think RR is patrolling the site well at all. No one should be harassed here. No one.

You are making a ton of assumptions. My goal is to provide quality info about topics that mean something to me in some way. My library is filled w/useful info and I don't think I'm in the "huckster" category.

I love writing. It's how I WANT to spend my time. This isn't all I write either. What's your job? Regardless of that answer don't you want to be better at it, and doesn't that include optimizing your performance? It should. That's what I'm talking about. I wrote this article cause I'm tired of people complaining there is nothing for them. There is and it's right here.

The fact that I found a legit way to earn money @ home is beyond a blessing. Since you don't know a thing about me, you judge it. I think you're being judgmental. You're not better because you choose not to earn from your ads. RR earns from your plutonomy writing. Are they evil? How do you think sites run?

Reality is that I'm telling people how to write better. If you want someone to read your writing, put a proper title on it. You don't know the ins and outs of this otherwise you'd realize that I'm not telling people how to get clicks.

What's wrong w/recipes? Newspapers have them. I wrote one about green smoothies. It's not just a list of ingredients. FYI - recipes are one of the lowest paying topics online. RE: spam. Found elsewhere means plagiarized.

You assume that I don't fact check? I only review products I use. In research I use CNET, Consumer Reports, and others. My info is factual. I write w/integrity. You assume too much.
15 months ago: Funny. You guys take the cake.
15 months ago: @cypress - I like cake, but I sense this isn't good cake.

What cake is it? What did I do now?
15 months ago: Aghhh! Don't Reply! Don't reply! I saw your profile, and you write about crap! Sorry for wasting your time asking the above questions: monkeys type faster than you!
15 months ago: @Slim

I agree. It IS work.

It's easy for others to look down on it. Everyone has their niche. Writing online has been one of the coolest things that I've found because it's given me the ability to be self employed and self reliant plus I've learned so much it's hard to put it in words (ha).

Writing is extremely therapeutic for me as well. Sounds crazy, but I actually CRAVE it. Writing is one of the most healing tools at our disposal. It's not even about putting the words in proper order for it to work.

Rap is very poetic. Eminem is one of my favorite poets. Tupac was brilliant.

Thanks for the comment!
15 months ago: Alex, why don't you write about why you like the m&m and the tupac, is it the guns, drugs, violence and misogyny that gets you excited or that is poetic? I'd love to read something by you defending these scumbags, and I'll make a deal: I'll click on your ads, even if you're not persuasive. If you're lucky, you'll find one song a piece that shows their considerate side and will ignore the other 99% to make your point, and I'll click twice.
15 months ago: I'll work something up on Eminem and Tupac. The truth is poetic.
I already have a list of songs in my head.

Another great rapper is T.I. Anyone can rap about "****es, gangsters and hoes"...it's another thing to write about life.

BUT. No deal. I don't want ad clicks. It's against the rules. I'm not interested in making money that is not warranted. For real. You would also be breaking the rules of the site by clicking ads. So, please, don't click any ad "just because" as it not okay (actually considered click fraud).
15 months ago: You said: "...Anyone can rap about "****es, gangsters and hoes"...it's another thing to write about life."

I suppose, it's you want your life to be about, and therein, what it is you write about.

I kinda used this same explanation earlier, but not in so few words...
15 months ago: I don't understand your comment. "I suppose, it's you want your life to be about, and therein, what it is you write about."

My guess is you're saying something about the premise of "you are what you write" although I'm not sure.

I'll expand on my comment a little:
I said "anyone can rap about "****es, gangsters and hoes"...it's another thing to write about life."

What I meant by that is that there are a lot of stereotyping in rap. Rap is blown up and some choose to inflate their image while others write and rap about their experience, such as Eminem, Tupac, or T.I. There's a difference when someone inflates w/fiction and tries to be bigger than life and someone who is a bit more humble. I suppose you don't associate Eminem w/humility. Or Tupac either.


Do you really know songs by Eminem or Tupac? Or do you know what you've heard about these rappers?

Let's not pretend that rap spewed the first misogynistic lyrics. Women are put down at every turn yet they are the thread that holds the world together. Musicians sing about women.

15 months ago: While one doesn't necessarily create the conditions around them by their writing, they can do it, if effective: these rappers did influence the world around them with their stories about guns, drugs and violence. Sometimes it's just enough to tell the stories you see out your [car] window: either way, glorifying a "****es, gangsters and hoes" in the mind's eye, or out on the street is hardly the way to solve the problem, aesthetically, politically or otherwise.

What's that song about chucking the mother of his child into the lake -- what's he tell his kid...something about momma's goin' for a swim...Tori Amos did a good cover of that one...Oh, wait, M&M lied about that...inflated his story a bit and got a little dramatic.
15 months ago: What made you think it was 100% true! I think in that song he also has her in the trunk, but I'm not sure cause I haven't listened to that album in awhile. It's his earlier stuff.

There are people who tell their story and unfortunately it does include violence, gangs, etc. There is no reason he or she can't tell it. I do think there is a difference between non-fiction and fiction. For those who write and fictionalize or over-dramatize the street life, I don't really respect that, but it's because I'm more of a realist. Don't make it up, tell me the truth.

The thing that rap has done for people in similar situations is let them know that they are not the only kid in the hood, not the only one struggling w/seeing addiction around them, not the only one seeing gang violence or violence period. If you listen to the message in many songs by Tupac he is not telling someone to pick up a gun, join a gang, and hit someone. He's saying this was his life and it's not really any way to live.
15 months ago: @plutonomister
Utter crap your spewing. Wasting others time must be a joke for you. You've got a whole lot of opinion and not much sense. I would address all of your comments individually but in order to feed my family I must concentrate on other words.

What? You don't think I have as much right to earn a living as anyone else? You think that perhaps I spent 20 years as a Chef I should not be allowed to change my mind and explore a new career in print writing about those things I enjoy? Not a legitimate enough job for you? Fine go dig a ditch.

Fact is you've written the word plutonomy because you haven't got a single clue as to the subject of your own rant. You waste your words because your the only one who benefits from seeing them in print. You presume far to much to be taken seriously.
15 months ago: Maybe it's just a simple cultural difference: some people survey what the market wants, and then give it to them, like asking the children/ adults what they want for lunch "Candy! Fast-Food!" Other people survey the world around them think fresh organic produce from a local farm is a better lunch: if you were a chef before, how did you make up your menu -- was it at all different from how you choose/ crank out words today?
15 months ago: Nice piece Alex_.

Good looking out for your fellow Rant/Ravers. Hope the folk here pay attention.
15 months ago: @ Thank you Huey!
15 months ago: thanks for the info and inspiration Alex_
Loria99er
Loria99er
Agoura Hills, CA
15 months ago: @ Alex, I too love to write. Have never done it professionally, but people do say I write well. I did a little bit of research on earning money by writing online, i.e., posting on RantRave. Followed their instructions on setting up a Google Adsense account, but got stopped dead in the water so to speak (apparently I have to have my own website before I Google will grant me an account.) I don't know what the cost is to do this or what's involved in having one's own website. Suggestions? Thanks in advance for your advice.
15 months ago: Awesome! I'm glad you're interested in doing it because it's fun and you can make money.

Okay, so you don't need your own website. The great thing is that all this is free. RR is a little weird cause we don't have a site profile really, even though we can click on the thing that says "my profile."

I already had an Adsense account for some other places I write. One thing that works is to set up a basic blog at Blogger.com. It can be about anything.

You might message the site admin here to ask them just in case. They should have specified in their directions what URL to use. I DO know that using a blogger blog works. You can set one up in about 1/2 hour. Then you also have a blog that is your own website! Later if you want you can put ads on it, too.

I hope that makes sense. Let me know if you have more questions.
15 months ago: Hey Loria,

This is your RR URL (website address). The only way to get it is to click on your name. You can try this in Adsense.

http://www.rantrave.com/profile/Loria99e...
Loria99er
Loria99er
Agoura Hills, CA
15 months ago: @ Alex - Ok, so I applied yesterday for a Google Adsense acct - am waiting for the approval, and will check out the Blogger.com site as well. I really appreciate your help, and just wanted to thank you!!
15 months ago: @Loria

I hope they approved you for an account. If you have questions about how to set up your ads on here or anything, let me know. It takes some time to learn the Google part of it, and how to manage ads, but it's not too bad.
Loria99er
Loria99er
Agoura Hills, CA
15 months ago: @ Alex, no I didn't get approved by Google for an adsense acct due to domain ownership. Will check out Blogger.com now, but thanks for all your help again!
15 months ago: I just saw your comment. It's too bad that RR does not have it set up better for writers.

You can re-apply. It's not your fault they didn't approve it though, it's the way that RR has the profile set up.

Unless you've made your blogger profile already then you can probably get an Adsense account easier by signing up at InfoBarrel.

http://www.rantrave.com/Rave/Make-Money-... (best rev share site)

If you sign up there then you get your own profile. It's an easy sign up. The community is awesome. We work together to help each other learn. It's really great. I find some of the community at RR aggressive at times, attacking and defensive, myself included. It is hard to get emotion from a computer screen.

Anyhow. You can still do Blogger. I think Blogger is one of the things mentioned by Google because Google owns blogger. But, if you don't want to make your own blog or you want to do both then look at the other site, too.
15 months ago: Nobody owns domains....are you sure the are not asking for a " URL ".

If they are asking for a " URL " You can set one up in five minutes.

Let me know.
15 months ago: People do own domains. I own two.

The domain name is the website URL or web address.
Example: RantRave's domain name is http://www.RantRave.com

The domain name is not always the name of the website, but those who know about proper SEO know that there is importance in choosing a domain name.

Adsense enables most anyone w/their own domain/website to use the Adsense program as a publisher. There are Adsense publishers and advertisers - we are the publishers. If a person doesn't have their own domain then they can use other things like Blogger or InfoBarrel on the application since those sites allow you to put your own ads on them, although how that works varies (blogger, you set ads up yourself; InfoBarrel does it for you and shares revenue).

For Loria99er, she will need to use one of these other sites since it seems like RR didn't work, which is partly because RR does not have a good navigation to the individual profile. If someone puts down Rant Rave as their domain or even the basic RR URL they'll be denied because they don't own RR, which is why she was denied for the "domain ownership" issue. Domain ownership is Google's term.


@Loria99er

This article is very helpful and will help people get an Adsense account. You don't have to use InfoBarrel for it, but the detailed article is by their admin and will help you (and anyone else).

http://www.infobarrel.com/How_To_Get_A_G...

I hope that helps everyone. All of this gets confusing sometimes but eventually the clouds clear!
15 months ago: Sorry. But you don't "Own" any domain. You might "Own" the source code you place on the domain you rent.
15 months ago: @Cypress

Domain ownership is proved by the person who administrates the account. For example, during the domain ownership verification process by Google Adsense, People have to put a snippet of code in their CSS or web code and Google sends spiders/bots to read the code and verify the ownership of the domain/website.

This is common practice among sites that need people to verify that they are indeed site owners. Norton Antivirus uses it. If you use Norton then you'll see that there are red, yellow, green, and black circles next to websites in the search (other anti-virus programs have similar things). The color corresponds to the website safety. The site owner or administrator is the ONLY person who can go in and change the color to green, which means a safe and verified. They do this by contacting Norton and going through a verification process that proves to Norton that the person is the site owner. Again, it's code snippets.

Perhaps you meant that none of us own anything on RR. I just wanted to clarify for you or anyone else reading who might be confused. I know that when I started learning about all of this I had no clue what any of it meant. It's taken some time and a lot of reading and trial and error to get it down and I have a long way to go!
15 months ago: For a recurring fee.....You don't own it...You rent it...
15 months ago: Code has nothing to do with it.

You can "own" a domain without code. Are there terms of ownership, yes, and as I said above you are technically the renter because the ownership will always reside w/the domain registrar.

I have one active website that uses hosting, which is the space and structure of the site. I have another domain that has no website attached to it.

For the purposes of getting an account with Google Adsense, ownership is the terms they use and people who buy domains are referred to as domain owners.

So, a URL is the domain name that must be associated specifically w/the person, whether it's buying a new website domain name and building a site, signing up for Blogger, or signing up for an account with something like Hubpages or InfoBarrel.

The initial comment that you left "Nobody owns domains....are you sure the are not asking for a " URL " does not make sense in terms of applying for a Google Adsense account.

RR should have the site set up so that we can just put in our RR profile, but the only way to actually get to it is clicking on the link of the person's name. Even "my profile" does not bring us to our actual profile. For Adsense purposes that would make things easier on those w/o Adsense.

I had my Adsense when I signed up since I own my own website...
15 months ago: My first reply was deleted when I accidentally clicked and the damn comment went away. I don't know why RR does that but it sucks cause I lose comments often. In that I referred to the technicality of it being a rental, but for all purposes people are referred to as domain owners or the domain registrant.

Anyhow, we're splitting hairs.


Domain names are often referred to simply as domains and domain name registrants are frequently referred to as domain owners, although domain name registration with a registrar does not confer any legal ownership of the domain name, only an exclusive right of use.

All of this is above whatever someone new needs to know to sign up for Adsense because Google Adsense asks specifically for domain ownership verification. Telling her she doesn't own a domain just contradicts what Google is saying, as their denial was literally "domain ownership" problems.

Did you take debate in school or what?! :)
15 months ago: I have 4 sites on servers that I paid a "lifetime fee" for use.

I don't own them. I can only use the space and bandwidth as long as the servers are in business.

Don't get caught up in that "I own it" thingy. You don't.

Maybe suggest to them that they find a free webhost and build a home page.

Matter of fact. Most services that you use to connect will give you a "Home Page"

They are not looking for a dot com, cc, org etc.

Your domain can be a simple as Yourname.yourservice.com
15 months ago: @Cypress

I'm not "caught up" but what's the point of confusing someone?

Why would I go into a debate w/her about domain ownership, etc., when she was specifically rejected by Adsense because of "domain ownership issues." Those are not my words. You can pick apart the technicalities of domain ownership, but what service is that doing for someone who just got rejected for not owning a domain? None that I see.

Surely you saw I was trying to help someone sign up for Google Adsense, a site that asks for the domain that you own -- Google's words, not mine. If RR were set up better then Loria could have used her RR profile, like on other rev share sites.

You posted a comment saying there is no domain ownership and asking if it meant URL. For someone who is brand new and has no idea about the ins and outs of this stuff, the question about a "url" was confusing. Yes, of course they wanted a URL, of the domain that you "own" so they can check you own and make sure you're not a site w/adverse content.

I suggested Blogger. Blogger is easy to use, easy to get up and running for those who don't know anything about building sites, and it's the #1 recommendations by Google Adsense for those who are rejected for "domain ownership" so they can get qualified as a publisher. So, I did offer the easiest solution.
15 months ago: Alex_ Sorry. I only wanted to show how easy it was to get a DOMAIN. Tell you what. If she needs one I'll setup a address she can call home for the adsense review. Is that fair enough? You want to jump me now? Why don't you offer to spend the time and or effort to setup an address for her? You do have access to a website or two? Don't you? Just create a /loria address. It's not rocket science.
15 months ago: Do you use Google Adsense?
15 months ago: No, but I do have an adsense account. So what is your point?

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