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Altruist
Eugene, OR
I often rant about the ongoing class warfare between the rich, the powerful, and the corporations against the rest of America, but I don't really think that very many of them are bad people. It is just that most people and especially corporations act in their own best interests. Unfortunately, when it comes to revenue generation, if the rich and corporations aren't paying their fair share, than we have to shoulder their burden.

Some of the rich are actually very good people and do wonderful things. The richest people in America, Bill Gates and Warren Buffet have probably done more as individuals to make life better for the unfortunate, and to save more lives than anyone before in history. Bill and Malinda Gates have given away more than $28 billion to help the poor and Warren Buffet has promised to give away 99% of his fortune to their foundation.

Buffet and Gates have issued a challenge to their fellow billionaires to join them in their philanthropic largess. They have asked them to do as much good as they can with their money before they die. They have convinced 40 billionaires to take the giving pledge and give away at least half of their fortunes to charity.

Collectively these people are raising $600 billion dollars. With that amount of money they could alleviate much of the hardships in the world and save millions of lives.

So Kudos to the Billionaires! (At least some of them).

One of the 40 is Alfred E. Mann who is the founder of the Alfred E. Mann Foundation. He is worth $2.2 billion and he's giving away 90 percent of his estate to be devoted to philanthropy. Mr. Mann said " Bill and Melinda Gates and Warren Buffett and a number of us have been meeting and talking, hoping to set examples, so people will become more oriented and more motivated to give their estates away, hopefully, during their lifetimes. It seems to me to make more sense to see the good that you can achieve with your money before you die, rather than afterwards."

"I believe that inherited money is not wise. I think it can destroy people when you take away their will to be productive, and so I've taken care of my family in modest ways and I want to use the money to try to do what I can for civilization."

The list is still growing and I hope it continues. To read what some of the other billionaires think read:
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.actio...

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Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
18 months ago: Generating $600 billion is impossible to comprehend. To get a better idea look at the UN's Millennium Development Goals which would cost between $40 billion and $60 billion a year.

Eradicate extreme poverty and hunger
• Halve the proportion of people with less than one dollar a
day.
• Halve the proportion of people who suffer from hunger.
2. Achieve universal primary education
• Ensure that boys and girls alike complete primary
schooling.
3. Promote gender equality and empower women
• Eliminate gender disparity at all levels of education.
4. Reduce child mortality
• Reduce by two thirds the under-five mortality rate.
5. Improve maternal health
• Reduce by three quarters the maternal mortality ratio.
6. Combat HIV/AIDS, malaria and other diseases
• Reverse the spread of HIV/AIDS.
7. Ensure environmental sustainability
• Integrate sustainable development into country policies
and reverse loss of environmental resources.
• Halve the proportion of people without access to potable
water.
• Significantly improve the lives of at least 100 million
slum dwellers.
8. Develop a global partnership for development
• Raise official development assistance.
• Expand market access.
• Encourage debt sustainability.
18 months ago: You do know that Bill Gates is a firm supporter of eugenics. Right? He thinks there are too many people in the world. You do know that about your favorite rich person. Right?
Wanda
Wanda
Magnolia, TX
18 months ago: I've always felt that rich men have way too much power for their own good. I've often wondered if the tables were turned would we women handle power and wealth any different. We do have different priorities after all. I wonder if that is what is motivating ole Bill Gates? I wonder if he has developed new priorities.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
18 months ago: Wow Al, you're giving a hooray for the current stars of philanthrocapitalism - never thought of you as as Rockefeller man. Frankly I rather see Mr Gates focus his efforts on running the company that fuels his philanthropic desires as opposed to him and his wife ineptly running them. See:

http://www.philanthrocapitalism.net/2010...

And TCG, where did this "Gates if a firm supporter of eugenics" quote spring from?
18 months ago: Don't think so?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/wo...

...Taking their cue from Gates they agreed that overpopulation was a priority.

This could result in a challenge to some Third World politicians who believe contraception and female education weaken traditional values.

Gates, 53, who is giving away most of his fortune, argued that healthier families, freed from malaria and extreme poverty, would change their habits and have fewer children within half a generation.

At a conference in Long Beach, California, last February, he had made similar points. "Official projections say the world's population will peak at 9.3 billion [up from 6.6 billion today] but with charitable initiatives, such as better reproductive healthcare, we think we can cap that at 8.3 billion," Gates said then...

or,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWyL9dg8l...
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
18 months ago: Ohh, I should have figured - overwrought religious right hyperbole and demonizing Gates as a modern day Joseph Mengele because he's encouraging contraception and a sustainable population? A far cry from actual religious & pseudoscience based eugenics movements that imposed forced sterilization of the poor, mentally ill, promiscuous women, and homosexuals along with racial segregation / purity laws (Jim Crow), and in the extreme case of Nazi Germany, genocide.
18 months ago: Sure he is. May I ask what was Planned Parenthood founded on? What is the ethnic break down of the abortions they provide?
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
18 months ago: They probably aren't founded on the notions of white pride and racial integrity. Have you checked out the "White Pride Home School Resource Center" at:

http://www.whitepridehomeschool.com/why....

Predictably, they bash Planned Parenthood and if you're looking for modern day proponents of eugenics, they're it buddy. According to an article they wrote titled "Raising Your Children To Have Racial Integrity", they claim that "racial integrity and Christianity can not be separated. We believe that the white race are the propagators of Christianity, the servant people that God ordained to rule, subdue, and to assist in the ushering in of His Kingdom/government."

You agree with that?
18 months ago: No. I haven't checked them out. Although it seems you have.

Can't make the ethnic abortion numbers by Planned Parenthood work. Can you?
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
18 months ago: No, I just don't want to cater to your religious right clause on equating abortion to murder. But a 5 second google search turned up a stat chart that nullifies your nutty implication that abortion is some kind of secret Bill Gates eugenics program to eliminate a particular race.

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/compareb...

Although in looking at the stats, I do notice that in the former confederate states, the percentage of blacks getting abortions is rather dramatic - esp. note Mississippi. Hmm, maybe you're on to something there TCG. Eh??
18 months ago: You think? This is the latest financial I could find on Planned Parenthood. 2007-2008. Have a better version?

Chilling numbers. Don't be fooled by what they call "emergency contraception" with over 1.4 million to be added to the 305,000 medical abortions.

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/A...

Don't think they "OWN" their founder? Go and see who is named in the last page along with a year of 1916....? Right. Bill is walking a very thin line if he thinks we don't see his intentions.
cwardnm
cwardnm
Telluride, CO
18 months ago: Wolves become lambs when they see the torches and pitchforks.

I am a 63 year old entrepreneur who has lived near and around the rich and famous all my life - from the wealthy suburbs of Chicago, to Aspen, Telluride and Southern California.

The super rich share a few common traits - a singular, ruthless desire to separate the rest of us from our property - an indefatigable quest to eliminate competition - and a talent to cultivate public subsidy for their obsessions.

In an nutshell - behind every great fortune - there are greater crimes against the groups they prey upon.

Then there are their kids, who suffer an assortment of personal maladies, including, but not confined to the inability to quantify their own worth beyond accidental birth.

Again.. I've lived among the rich pretty much all my life. Although inherited wealth appears to be its own punishment - the butchers and thieves who accumulate these fortunes are pretty much the same throughout history. They are supreme scammers - savvy enough to know when to start confessing that it's 'time to give back'.

It's not that the rest of us are lazy or common. The robber barons throughout history are driven to conquest - so damaged in their personhood - that while the rest of us work, pray, love and smell our roses, the royals and wolves plot how to increase their market share.

When the starving peasantry left the French countryside for the palaces of the Loire they had blood in their eyes. Enough was enough... then as now.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
18 months ago: ...an indefatigable quest to eliminate competition...They are supreme scammers - savvy enough to know when to start confessing that it's 'time to give back'...

That sums up this topic quite well and is underpinned by the fact that these billionaires are falling over themselves to publicly trumpet their 'generosity'. If Gates and company were benevolent types, they would have given away their wealth as they made it sans the ego stroking foundations they name after themselves. Even if Gates gives away 98% of his est. 50 billion, there's still a billion to spend on silver spoons for his progeny.
18 months ago: I'm sure the tax free trusts and perpetual care investments to keep the family afloat in their accustomed life styles were setup well before this revelation by B.G.

I'm wondering if there is a I.R.S. connection.
18 months ago: I don't believe any of these comments are in response to the tone of your article, Altruist.

I know Bill Gates has done some positive things with his charitable contributions. But then he did smart things to put money into his pocket to begin with. His methods brought computers into the hands of the common man, thwarting big, established business who (likely) would have retained more product control.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
18 months ago: I hate to generalize and put all of the rich bastards in the same box. Wouldn't want to form any class descrimination would we?

These guys that are giving away their fortunes are but 1/10th of Billionaires. The fact that they have committed to helping others indicates that they may be a cut above the others. Most of these folk actually think that the tax structure which gives them such breaks is unfair, that they should be taxed at a higher rate and that the estate tax should be higher. Maybe only 90% of the very rich are greedy bastards? http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2007/...

As far as the Eugenics Insanity, I think Bill Gates has it exactly right. If we allow the poor in undeveloped countries to gain control over their own lives, if we empower women and educate them, then they will voluntarily limit their births because they hate seeing their children starve to death. Those who oppose allowing the poor women this freedom are very cruel.

As nations become more educated and more affluent, they voluntarily limit births. Bill Gates just wants to prevent diseases from killing millions, he wants to educate people, and he wants to allow the poor to care for their children.

If we were to allow the starvation, disease, war and pestilence to go unchecked billions will die. Gates and the other 39 are trying to stop that.
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18 months ago: Do not believe this media hype! A Billionaire does not give up money unless they are going to get more back, that is how they got there! I read some of this but don't remember where. And the reason they were giving it up was an investment that they get a return on through the charities! I don't know the whole story yet, but believe me you are hearing what the main stream media is told to tell you! It is a nice thought but it isn't out of the kindness of their heart!
18 months ago: Speaking on his philanthropy.

"There is more than one way to get to heaven, but this is a great way." Warren Buffett.

Anyone who believes in a holy and Almighty Creator should have enough sense to know that you can't pay for your sins with money.

I appreciate the cash both Gates and Buffet gives away to legitimate, life saving and life benefiting organizations, however their motives are definitely questionable.

Both Gates and Buffet give huge amounts of dollars to organizations that fund abortions at all life stages regardless of circumstance. So when you honestly look at it, they are using their wealth for good at one and and for evil at another.

That type of duplicity and hypocrisy helps me at least to put their "good will" in proper perspective.

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