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Altruist
Eugene, OR
I watched a CNN report this morning about Mark Suppes who lives in Brooklyn and built a homemade Nuclear Reactor in a warehouse. See:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10385853.stm

The problem is that listening to the report you got the impression that Mark is another Steve Jobs, and that with just a bit more money and time he can solve our energy problems. While Jobs was able to create a computer in his garage, there is no way that Mark will ever be able to create more power than he puts into the system.

The first thing you need to realize is that this was a FUSION reaction which is relatively safe and not the dangerous radioactive FISSION reactors that produce 20% of the power in the nation.

Fusion reactions, at their very simplest, takes two hydrogen atoms and smashes them together to form a helium atom and the reaction gives off a lot of heat. A sustained reaction is difficult because you have to keep shooting these elements at each other.

Fission reactions take a very heavy atom and brake it down to two lighter elements. This is easier because when the initial atom breaks down the resulting smaller atoms shoot out and can break down other heavy atoms, forming a chain reaction. It is dangerous because the heavy radioactive atoms shooting out will kill you.

You can legally buy some Deuterium (A heavier isotope of hydrogen), build a vacuum chamber, and hurl the deuterium atoms together at very high temperatures, and once in a while you will get a helium atom out of the process. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fus...

It takes an enormous amount of energy to do this but it is fairly easy. The problem is to generate a continuous fusion reaction, harness the energy coming off that reaction and generate more power than you are getting out, is nearly impossible.
See:http://brian-mcdermott.com/fusion_is_easy.htm

A hydrogen bomb can create a fusion reaction and release all of that energy as a destructive force, but it takes a thermonuclear fission reaction to start the reaction.

The problem is that the reaction is hot (millions of degrees), so you need to contain the reaction in an electromagnetic bottle or torus. This takes enormous energy. It is relatively safe because if the super hot plasma escapes, the reaction will stop (although anything in the way will be vaporized).

Cold Fusion which takes place at room temperature has been the holy grail of energy for generations, yet no one knows how to do it yet. It is attractive because the elements of hydrogen, deuterium and tritium, can be derived from sea water and they are not as dangerous or radioactive as the heavier elements we use for fission power.

Scientists have been working to generate a sustained reaction for years but so far they have only gotten it to work for seconds. This year the world's most powerful laser may do better. See: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/scien...

It takes an enormous amount of energy to do this but it is fairly easy. The problem is to generate a continuous fusion reaction, harness the energy coming off that reaction and generate more power than you are getting out, is nearly impossible.
See:http://brian-mcdermott.com/fusion_is_easy.htm

A hydrogen bomb can create a fusion reaction and release all of that energy as a destructive force, but it takes a thermonuclear fission reaction to start the reaction.

The problem is that the reaction is hot (millions of degrees), so you need to contain the reaction in an electromagnetic bottle or torus. This takes enormous energy. It is relatively safe because if the super hot plasma escapes, the reaction will stop (although anything in the way will be vaporized).

The point is it takes enormous resources and the best minds in the world, trying for 70 years, haven't been able to get more power out than they put in yet. I don't think some guy in his garage will be producing power anytime soon.
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19 months ago: Yeah, Just like ''Homemade Drilling'' as long as the ''Gulf Coast'' supplies us I'm OK with that. Not in my backyard though. Right AL? Not in your backyard?

Would your backyard be Washinton State, Oregon State or Califorinia State? It's had to tell since your so transient. I'm sure you keep intouch with the government so you can keep your retirement and SS rolling in.

You Know, your ''EARNED'' payments.

Out Of The Box
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19 months ago: *If man had been meant to fly, he would have been born with feathers.

*The world is flat. If you sail far enough, you'll fall off the edge.

*"The abdomen, the chest, and the brain will forever be shut from the intrusion of the wise and humane surgeon." -- Sir John Eric Ericksen, British surgeon, appointed Surgeon-Extraordinary to Queen Victoria 1873.

*"The bomb will never go off. I speak as an expert in explosives." -- Admiral William Leahy, U.S. Atomic Bomb Project.

*"That Professor Goddard with his 'chair' in Clark College and the countenancing of the Smithsonian Institution does not know the relation of action to reaction, and of the need to have something better than a vacuum against which to react--to say that would be absurd. Of course, he only seems to lack the knowledge ladled out daily in high schools." -- 1921 New York Times editorial about Robert Goddard's revolutionary rocket work. The remark was retracted in the July 17, 1969 issue.

At least he's doing something, even though it flies in the face of conventional wisdom, or rather the liberal mantra of wind, solar, and tidal power. He's not just sitting around whining about "somebody should do something to get clean power available, and if they do something, then they need to do it the way I say."

It seems like the "green" corporate giants have done a great job of brainwashing their lackeys.
19 months ago: Let's roll out billions upon billions of grant money for useless feel good liberals to poder the cost of making a good cup of coffee. After they roll out of bed around 11:00.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
19 months ago: You are right TCG that I wouldn't want a Nuke plant in my back yard. Oregon no longer has any nuclear plants although those in northern Oregon are still paying for the WPPS fiasco (Whoops!).

Actually I am all in favor of Fusion power and am glad they are developing it. Maybe in a hundred years it will prove to be economically feasible. Meanwhile Europe has plans to go 100% renewable by 2050. See:http://blogs.panda.org/climate/2010/04/14/road-map-to-100-renewable-energy-in-europe-by-2050/

Another study is less ambitious and indicates only 80% by 2050 and 93% by 2070. http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/...

Obama knowing that there is stiff resistance from the right has opted for a conservative 80% by 2050.
Colorado
Colorado
Westcliffe, CO
19 months ago: There are a few people that have done this in the past and you are right, never get more out then you put in, that said, it is still cool.

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