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"Good Friday"...er...uh...."Spring Holiday"...uh...er......

Posted 26 months ago|57 comments|982 views
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In the following article,

http://abcnews.go.com/US/iowa-town-renam...

it is reported that Davenport, Iowa, will no longer call "Good Friday", "Good Friday", but will call "Good Friday" "Spring Holiday".

Why stop there?

Why use the word "Holiday"? Where in the wide, wide world of sports do you think the word "Holiday" comes from? It is "Holy Day". So, you cannot call it "Spring Holiday". Hhhhmmmm.

Well, let's call it "Spring Off Day". No, we can't call it "Spring Off Day" because if there is ever a person that was born on "Spring Off Day" and his parents inadvertently call him JACK, we'll never be able to take his birth day off from work to celebrate his birthday on the same day as "Spring Off Day" because we'd have to call it "Jack Off Day". No?

How about just "Spring Day?" Yea, that's it.

And instead of calling it "Christmas", let's call it "Proffitmas" or "ImportantPersonMas" or "Crucifiedpersonmas"....No, instead let's call it "Winter Holiday...oopss... We'll just call it "Winter Day"! Yea! (Oh, we're so politically correct I could skip around and around some shiny yard ornaments somewhere. Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.......ooooops.......sorry........Oh girl and boy!, Oh girl and boy!, Oh girl and boy!.... Ooooopssss..... Sorry, I did it again.... Oh transvestite! Oh transvestite!, Oh Transvestite! (Phew! Is that better political correctness?)

And we cannot call it "Easter" any more! Oh no! I mean with Jesus' Crucifixion and Resurrection and all. It would be a bad thing to have any government holiday...er....government day off from work have anything to do with anything so bad as everlasting life. Oh no!

And we need to tear down the Washington Monument because it has some of that religious language inscribed into its interior.

And we need to start using Rubles because all our money has written "In God We Trust" on it. OH NO! WHAT SHALL WE DO? WE ARE DOOMED!

And of course, we need to rewrite every single law ever passed by our country because every single session of Congress for over two centuries has been started with a prayer to you know who.

And we need to burn all the Christians at the stake so they can never, ever, ever say anything to anyone else in the world about Jesus Christ!

Oh my! I'm going to faint!
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26 months ago: Oh, poor redstateguy, another casualty in the awful War on Christmas! I tell you, it's brutal out there, with all those "Happy Holidays" this and "Season's Greetings" that.
26 months ago: If you're being honest, you can't use the world "Holiday".
26 months ago: Sure I can! Have a happy Non-Denominational And/Or Secular Spring Holiday of Your Choice, redstateguy!

"Holiday" may have religious roots, but that doesn't mean I'm required not to use it in its secular meaning.
26 months ago: Nice fishing trip RED. You hooked a minnow. It would now admit it is OK to use

HOLYDAY, that is as long as it is the Holy Noni Day while he is in route to hell.
26 months ago: I know.
26 months ago: Heynoni's a she anyway.
26 months ago: Nope, I'm a guy. Thought we cleared that up a while back.

Incidentally, I'm fine with anyone wishing me a "happy holy day," a "merry Christmas," or what have you. But here's a news flash: So is everyone else. No one will assault you or scream at you for wishing them good in the context of your religious beliefs. Only in the minds of psychos like Bill O'Reilly is there a war on Christmas, or any other Christian holiday.
26 months ago: Sorry Man.

I lost track.....again.......
26 months ago: Let's all go out and start calling it ''Good Noni Day''.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
26 months ago: The word holiday is inclusive even if you insist on highlighting it's ancient origins (pre-Christian BTW.) We live in a secular state and during the Spring, there are Christians who celebrate Easter, Jews who celebrate Passover, Pagans who celebrate vernal equinox, Buddhists who celebrate Ohigan, and many more secular types who at the most celebrate the Easter Bunny and hunting for Easter Eggs.

I don't believe in political correctness to cancel out the holiday names but I certainly don't care for the intolerance of the religious right as they seemingly expect the government to recognize only their religious days.

"And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in showing that religion and Government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together..James Madison"
26 months ago: Holy Noni Day?
26 months ago: Amen! (Heh.)

You know what, conservatives? Go on and keep wishing each other and everyone else a Merry Christmas, Happy Easter, and whatever else floats your boat. No one's trying to stop you.
26 months ago: Of course (the rest of) you are.
26 months ago: Laugh now, burn later.
26 months ago: Ahh yes, the final argument when all else has failed: "Agree with me or burn in hell."

Threatening me with an afterlife of torment by your magical sky deity isn't particularly effective when I simply don't believe in him.
26 months ago: Nope, you put it in writing.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
26 months ago: Only proves the intolerant point
26 months ago: Mark.

You keep repeating "intolerance of the religious right".

That, so far, is not computing.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
26 months ago: ...You keep repeating "intolerance of the religious right"...That, so far, is not computing....

Maybe you're right - it's a redundant statement.
26 months ago: Can you tolerate gay people getting married? Can you tolerate government that doesn't make religious references? The religious right cannot.
26 months ago: No problem, except gay people don't have to get married in my face.
26 months ago: Red, believe me... If your face is anything like your profile pic, gay people don't want to get married anywhere near it. ;)

But in all seriousness, you don't have a problem with gay people getting married?
26 months ago: It's none of my business what gay people do.

The problem I have with "Gay Marriage" is I am teaching my children to (try) to follow Jesus' teachings, and Jesus taught a man and a woman are to be married. He didn't say man and man, or woman and woman. Period.

I cannot teach my children to pick and chose which of Jesus' teachings they want to follow.

So, I am against any "public display of men and men or women and women being MARRIED". It is none of my business what kind of civil contract they enter into with some bored city bureaucrat's blessings.
26 months ago: No, red, Jesus never taught that. But as long as you don't have a problem with people who don't believe as you do getting gay married, I actually have to count you as one of the more tolerant and open-minded right-wing types, at least on this issue.

Don't worry, I won't tell anyone. ;)
26 months ago: ;) ;) ;) Noni. Are you feeling sexually attracted?

Why don't you just come out of the closet?
26 months ago: Hahah! Depends... How shapely is redstateguy's bosom?
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
26 months ago: Actually, the name Easter is a variation of the worship of the goddess Ishtar, the goddess of sexuality and fertility. That's where you get the eggs, the bunnies, and the hot cross buns. Just another way the Catholic church screwed Christianity as a religion, in a play for the defeated pagans' loyalty.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
26 months ago: ...Just another way the Catholic church screwed Christianity as a religion, in a play for the defeated pagans' loyalty...

That's hysterical evangelical Catholic bashing. The word Easter comes from a old English word based on an ancient Germanic calendar month name. In the Romance languages including Latin (the language of the Catholic Church), they use a derivative of the Hebrew word Pesach (festival of Passover) and in Latin, it's Pascha. In Greece, they use a Greek word that translates to resurrection. If it was some Vatican conspiracy to 'screw Christianity', they would have made the alleged pagan name universal or at least used the word in the Vatican's lingo.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
26 months ago:
Many religious historians and liberal theologians believe that the death and resurrection legends were first associated with Attis, many centuries before the birth of Jesus. They were simply grafted onto stories of Jesus' life in order to make Christian theology more acceptable to Pagans

http://www.religioustolerance.org/easter...
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
26 months ago: Origins of the name "Easter":

The name "Easter" originated with the names of an ancient Goddess and God. The Venerable Bede, (672-735 CE.) a Christian scholar, first asserted in his book De Ratione Temporum that Easter was named after Eostre (a.k.a. Eastre). She was the Great Mother Goddess of the Saxon people in Northern Europe. Similarly, the "Teutonic dawn goddess of fertility [was] known variously as Ostare, Ostara, Ostern, Eostra, Eostre, Eostur, Eastra, Eastur, Austron and Ausos." 1 Her name was derived from the ancient word for spring: "eastre." Similar Goddesses were known by other names in ancient cultures around the Mediterranean, and were celebrated in the springtime. Some were:
bullet Aphrodite from ancient Cyprus
bullet Ashtoreth from ancient Israel
bullet Astarte from ancient Greece
bullet Demeter from Mycenae
bullet Hathor from ancient Egypt
bullet Ishtar from Assyria
bullet Kali, from India
bullet Ostara a Norse Goddess of fertility.

An alternative explanation has been suggested. The name given by the Frankish church to Jesus' resurrection festival included the Latin word "alba" which means "white." (This was a reference to the white robes that were worn during the festival.) "Alba" also has a second meaning: "sunrise." When the name of the festival was translated into German, the "sunrise" meaning was selected in error. This became "ostern" in German. Ostern has been proposed as the origin of the word "Easter".

http://www.religioustolerance.org/easter...
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
26 months ago: But let me cite you a current example. The Air Force Academy chapel added an outdoor worship area for followers of Earth-centered religions (e.g. Wiccans) and a worship circle is located atop the hill near the the Cadet Chapel. "It's the latest latest addition to a collection of worship areas that includes Protestant, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim and Buddhist sacred spaces." The article is at:

http://www.usafa.af.mil/news/story.asp?i...

Here's just a few of the intolerant comments from the religious right:

"The Air Force has just sunk to a new low. I can not believe that they would build such a thing for pagans. Don't they realize that this nation was founded on christian virtures and principals. It was GOD that made this country great and blessed it not pagans. I really feel that GODS wrath is going to come down on us because of things like this
richard slate, pinellas park florida

As a volunteer lay chaplain with my local VA Medical Ctr and a moral Leaderhip Officer in the Civil Air Patrol I am appalled at such travsity to allow pagan worship at the AF Military Academy. Shame on the Chaplains for allowing this to go forward. Paganism has no place in our military protocol.
Preston Lawrance, Loudon NH

Our nation's founders installed the Constitution based on Judeo-Christian principles and law. Tax supported promotion of pagan worship runs contrary to those values. Where does PC stop altars to Baal, Zeus, Satan.. Why not create an altar with a giant Coors can for cadets who want to fellowship and relax with a few cold ones.
J D Miniear, Indianapolis IN"

of course it didn't stop at ignorant vitriol - apparently some Christian cadets went out to desecrate the worship circle:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/02/03/...

And here's one fundy nutter on YouTube demanding that the worship circle be broken up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFjoJSfgP...
26 months ago: When Christians are bashed, it's freedom from religion, separation of church and state, etc.

When Christians fight back, it's intolerance.

I'm starting to understand mo better.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
26 months ago: Now you get the gist of it.
26 months ago: There is no Christian-"bashing" problem in this country. I call bullsh*t on that, in a country where about 80% of the populace identifies as Christian. What you're really freaking out about is how Christianity no longer gets a leg up on other religions *in government*. Which is exactly as it should be. Christianity no more belongs in government than Buddhism or Islam.
26 months ago: No Christian bashing?

Come on Heynnnnnn.

"Leg up on other religions in government"?

It has nothing to do with Buddhism, Islam or rock worshiping. It is any religion BUT Christianity. Period.

This is a Christian Nation formed by Christians. Period.

You want me to repost all the rants and raves again?
26 months ago: Red, post them on ''Good Friday'' while they are off on ''Easter Break''.
26 months ago: Feel free, red, but you'll be as wrong now as you were then. We aren't a Christian nation, we are a secular nation. Which would be why you won't find any mention of Jesus or any identifiable religious figure or tradition in the Preamble, the Constitution, or the Bill of Rights.

But if you feel that other religions are getting preferential treatment in government, care to provide some evidence thereof? Because I'm just as against that as I am against preferential treatment for Christianity.
26 months ago: I'll handle this one RED.

NONI, it was left out so not to piss you and your kind off,

and your still pissed....
26 months ago: "NONI, it was left out so not to piss you and your kind off,

and your still pissed...."

Why leave it out on account of "my kind?" If they meant to establish a Christian nation, why not just do it? It's not like they cared much what 21st century non-religious liberals thought in 1787.
26 months ago: What? We can't point out your kind when that is all you do in the other direction?
26 months ago: Do you have a point or any factual evidence to submit to the argument concerning whether or not this country is a "Christian nation?" If not, mind if I just consider this one resolved?
26 months ago: I almost never found these stats...

http://religions.pewforum.org/reports

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in...

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/

The last one is the Libray of Congress that states...

"the United States of America were settled by men and women of deep religious convictions"
26 months ago: Deep religious convictions does not equal a desire to mix church and state, nor the stupidity required to assume everyone they were founding the country with worshiped the same way.

Please consider the possibility they made sure that church and state were separate *because* of their religious convictions, not in spite of them.
26 months ago: The bashing goes both ways. The Christians want a free hand to deny the non-Christians the same privileges they feel entitiled to and the non-Christian/non-religious just want to be able to enjoy the same freedoms as the Christians without having to always fight for the same rights.

It could be said about the tax dollars that they should not have been spent to build the Chapel at the AF Academy in the first place, that was government support for religion because they built a place for them (multiple religions) to assemble with tax dollars.
TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
 Philadelphia, PA
26 months ago: Wow RSG, usually i think your stuff is a bit to convoluted and wacked-out for me, but i got a good chuckle out of "Jack Off Day." But you bring up an interesting point, when is too much political correctness too much? I mean, if i can see two men half naked and making out on prime time television i should be able to hear the news anchor call it good friday.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
26 months ago: Actually the government continues to imposes all kinds of religious inspired "decency" laws on the media right down to the use of expletives. How about this though - let's have the government stop fretting about both television content and holiday names.

http://www.broadcastlawblog.com/tags/fcc...
26 months ago: Sounds good to me. Then we can hear what is really said in Congress!

I never believed any word was worthy of being excluded from all speach, if it has a meaning that better conveys the speakers thoughts, he/she should be able to use it without fear.

"Decency" is in the eye of the beholder. Many still think the naked human body is indecent and should be hidden at all costs. I only agree about mine, much to ugly to bother showing it off, too much fat and hair and very few muscles!
26 months ago: You squishy moderate.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
26 months ago: "Now who can hear Christ declare, that his kingdom is, not of this world, and yet believe that this blending of church and state together can be pleasing to him?"...From "An Appeal to the Public for Religious Liberty Against the Oppressions of the Present Day", Isaac Backus, Baptist Minister, 1773.

Backus was a leading Baptist preacher during the era of the American Revolution who campaigned against state-established churches in New England.

http://classicliberal.tripod.com/misc/ap...

Hardly surprising given that America was a refuge from oppressive Church states of Europe to worship as they pleaseed, and here we have Rebiblicans wanting to dial the clock back to medieval European theocracies. Crazy.

BTW, this idea it was all Christians is rubbish. For example, here's a letter from George Washington to the first Jewish Congregation in Rhode Island, 1790 and it's summarized as "To Bigotry No Sanction"

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/tr...
26 months ago: ...this idea it was all Christians is rubbish...

Correct, then again I have never seen anyone state that it was "all Christians".

Maybe a better statement would be a majority of people were a type of Christian.

Like today... what is that percentage of Christians in America? Is it a simple majority? 78.what percent? Does todays number reflect the percentages of the past? Probably. 78+ percent is not a simple majority.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
26 months ago: Let's assume 78% is the correct figure today but that's not a unified Christian block, either from a theological or political standpoint. The only thing these 78% might universally agree on is how to spell Jesus.
26 months ago: Your right. It is a very splintered group. None the less all Christians consider to be Christians. Just like all Jews are Jews and all Muslims are Muslims. Your talking Sects. Regardless of Sect the fact remains. 78 + percent have a Savior in Christ.
26 months ago: What exactly does that have to do with how to operate a government? I would no more want religious beliefs incorporated into governing than I would want them incorporated into brain surgery, construction, or nuclear physics.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
26 months ago: I think he's trying to imply that this 78% are somehow all religious right faithful that are pining for dominionism who want to tear down the wall of separation between Church and state. As I stated, the only thing they agree on is how to spell Jesus and the Christian religious right is obviously a minority given how the GOP has become their vassal. They wouldn't be a minority party if 78% was accurate.
26 months ago: I think you're probably right, Mark. I have no doubt that 78% is roughly accurate regarding the number of people who call themselves Christians, but I would guess that a solid majority of that number disagrees with the idea of turning the United States into a theocracy.
kikki
kikki
26 months ago: Hey redstateguy, have a drink, the worst is yet to come.LOL
26 months ago: I know it.

Unbelievable.
kikki
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