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Exploration of Mind vs. Body

Posted 37 months ago|22 comments|2,040 views
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AGoodMinute29
Havertown, PA
Generally, one could argue that human beings are ultimately defined by two factors: the physical body, and the mind within the body. Each is characterized by the state in which it exists. The body is physical. It can be injured, maimed—damaged to the point where it doesn’t function properly. The mind, though it can be damaged, does not exist in any physical form. A solid barrier separates what is physical from what is considered mental. The mind and body are two completely different things, for they both engage in separate functions. The mind serves as tool of reason and problem solving, whereas the physical body does not. However, one cannot deny that the body is the vessel by which those thoughts are ultimately expressed. The body serves to carry out those thoughts through what we call “actions”. The mind and body, though different, are indeed strongly connected.
The mind allows a human being to decide between right and wrong. For example, while contemplating on whether or not I should complete a homework assignment, I have several choices that could follow through. I could sit down at my desk, pick up the pencil, and commence working, or I could choose to momentarily abandon the assignment and watch TV in the living room. Whatever decision I make, without the presence of physical vessel, I would be unable to communicate that decision. Without my legs to propel me forth, I could not leave the room. Without my hands or fingers, it would be impossible for me to pick up my pencil and commence writing. Thus, the body is what enables me to follow through my thoughts. On the flip side of things, the physical body would be useless without a mind to accompany it. What use is an arm or leg if it cannot kick or throw the football? What use is a heart, if there is no signal to command its beating? The absence of a mind would render the human being an inanimate entity.
Our mind is what we use to process emotions, knowledge, and impulses. This process is thought or reasoning. On the other hand, our bodies are able to process the physical. When we trip and fall, it is our bodies that tell us that we are hurt. But then how do we explain when a physical action causes an emotional reaction. For example, when one exercises there is a chemical release of endorphins into the brain. The dictionary.com definition of an endorphin is, “Any of a group of peptide hormones that bind to opiate receptors and are found mainly in the brain. Endorphins reduce the sensation of pain and affect emotions.” Since we are assuming that our brain is separate from our mind, this is easy to understand. However, as stated above, endorphins have the ability to affect our emotions. If this is the case, then how can we say that our mind is separate from our body?
In addition, if our minds are separate from our bodies, then how do we explain impulses? An impulse is a sudden urge that prompts an action. If we feel an impulse and then act upon it in a physical way, doesn’t that infer that our minds and bodies are one in the same? It is more than a mere interaction between the two. Our minds and bodies are too closely intertwined to say that they are not a part of the other.
The mind and body, though very different, depend on one another to provide the other purpose. One is no more important than the other. The human being requires both to maintain its existence.
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TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
37 months ago: Uhh, actually, the mind IS part of the body, neurons, etc. The electrical impulses of you brain and your central nervous system control how your body works.

Your brain is basically the King of your body, ordering it to do its bidding, neither can live without the other, thus they are codependent.

Oh wait, that's what you said...

Cheers!
AGoodMinute29
AGoodMinute29
Havertown, PA
37 months ago: Wow, guess you've never read Decartes. I am discussing what he wrote about mind vs. body. Your mind and your brain are two separate things. You should either read: http://celestiallands.org/library/Mindvsbody.htm or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_mind
AGoodMinute29
AGoodMinute29
Havertown, PA
37 months ago: (my point is that they are separate but that one cannot exist without the other).
TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
37 months ago: uhh okay, i know that, that's what i said "Your brain is basically the King of your body, ordering it to do its bidding, neither can live without the other, thus they are codependent."
Chris D
Chris D
Seattle, WA
37 months ago: Take a philosophy course, Tom. :)

She's talking about the mind. You're talking about the brain.

Nice post, GoodMinute.
AGoodMinute29
AGoodMinute29
Havertown, PA
37 months ago: Thanks!
37 months ago: I disagree, and if you had a body like mine you would understand.
AGoodMinute29
AGoodMinute29
Havertown, PA
37 months ago: Not to be rude, but I fail to see where body type has anything to do with my argument.
AGoodMinute29
AGoodMinute29
Havertown, PA
37 months ago: Content Removed by RantRave Admin
AGoodMinute29
AGoodMinute29
Havertown, PA
37 months ago: Not to mention, I don't want a body like yours ;)
37 months ago: New around here, Eh? I too was edited by RR on my first night. I'm still trying to overcome that one. I think I only have one hold out that really HATES me. The rest have learned about dry wit. Then again that might just explain why there is only one. No funny bone. Sorry your topic was the mind?
37 months ago: Hey 29. What do you plan on selling? I noticed your working on marketing. Do you think it is all a mind game? I run into that alot. How does the concept of writing the order with lies get to market if it was conceived with lies? Yeah, I forgot... (marketing) salespeople promise the world and then leave the complaints to customer service.

Tom, go get a suit, haircut, brush your teeth. Make a youtube. This one lives in your state!!!!
TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
37 months ago: She's doing Fashion marketing, and is my girlfriend.

As for the suit, no thanks!

But expect a new youtube, hopefully this weekend.
37 months ago: Mind game. Right. Er. Eh. opps.
37 months ago: Whoa. Just a second. If She is getting into Fashion marketing. How can you not have a suit? I think I would be lining up a few tuxedos and maybe some spandex. Those runway babes are ..... sorry....
TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
37 months ago: I have tux, suit, etc.

Right now i wearing my Gucci belt with my 7 for all mankind jeans.

:D
37 months ago: Dude. Right now your crap is smelling pretty rank. I want an answer from the babe.

No more mind game Tom29.
AGoodMinute29
AGoodMinute29
Havertown, PA
37 months ago: Actually I wasn't edited by RR, I flagged myself b/c it had a typo. As for marketing, I see Tom already told you that I was going into Fashion Marketing. I am also quite interested in the design side. Hopefully I'll have enough say so that I'll be marketing products that I actually like so that I won't be lying. Also, I don't think as much lying is involved in Fashion Marketing as others. Anyway, this now has nothing to do with what I originally posted.
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
37 months ago: Good post, one I have no argument with. There are those who feel there may be something more to it, a soul or some energy force that transcends the mind and body. Some have suggested the brain may operate at the quantum level and given the peculiar things that can happen in quantum mechanics, with things being in two places at once and having many states at once, maybe there is something to this. Who knows? Without the body as a vessel and multi sensory organ though what ever may be behind the mind has no obvious connection with reality.
37 months ago: I got to question. A mind is contained within a body, says the author. "the mind within the body". What information convinces? What measurement, what instrument, what test, shows that a mind is contained within a body?

If we have a vessel (let's say a plastic bottle) and we fill it up with liquid or air or mind material. And we damage our vessel, what happens to its contents? Do they burst out, like water from a hose or do they leak slowly out? And how can we measure the effect of distorting the vessel, crushing or squeezing it?

Try this little exercise. Recall a pleasant experience. Go over that small span of time several times and get details of it, such as, perhaps, color and sound and time of day and your body's position during the pleasant experience.

Then, what is the location of the picture you are looking at? Can you say with certainty that its location is within your body?
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
37 months ago: One can view electro-chemical changes in the brain while a subject performs exercises like terryeo suggests. One can see changes not only in brain state but in body state during such exercises. The mind has been scientifically proven to have profound effects over the body, though nothing beyond it. Does this prove the mind, which is ephemeral, exists inside the body? To some yes but to others no.

Going further it can be argued that everything is the result of interactions between different forces and that we perceive the world differently to other species on Earth and that it's possible there are extra-terrestrials who perceive things very differently to any species on Earth. There are people whose brains are wired differently to others and can see sounds or smells etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synaesthesia. Others can only experience such things while under the influence of hallucinogenics. What then is reality? Perhaps only the predominant way our brains are wired, but within that one can play around in some amazing ways. One has to be care to not become delusional though; essentially believing in a false reality.

I've induced different states in my body through meditation and exercises similar to the one terryeo suggests. It is possible to create some apparently profound states where normal reality is distorted. It is possible to feel as though one is experiencing reality from a different vantage point, though never accurately beyond the vantage point of the body; a delusional out of body experience made possible by the minds' amazing ability to imaging being at different locations and even times.
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
37 months ago: Another fascinating experience is memories from past lives. Freud originally postulated the concept that traumas from ones past can affect one in the now. Freud would have subjects perform an exercise of searching back through their memories for traumas that could explain their problems in the now. Freud had the concept of womb memories which allowed for the trauma of birth to be an issue. Using the same exercise but allowing for one to go back past the womb it is possible to remember things from past lives.

The only problem is the memories often bear no relation to known reality; they can include mix ups in time periods, known events and technologies known to be available at the time. While many involve know figures of recorded history few tie up where that person was at the supposed time of the memory. To all intents and purposes the memories appear to be constructs of the sub-concious mind to meet demands being put upon it by the concious.

There are several examples of children remembering abuses from childhood that were later proven false. An entire Island off the coast of Scotland had their children put in to care because some children started remembering demonic rituals and abuses that it turned out didn't happen but were induced by improper application of regressive memory techniques.

It is very easy to induce delusions in subjects by performing such exercises, which is why such things as regression hypnotherapy is regulated and only used in an attempt to enhance a target memory rather than to "find" one.

Freud later dropped the concept of past traumas affecting the now because although in some cases it was true the therapeutic value of making the subject relive a trauma over and over was in doubt, generally leading to other delusions.

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