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Eve’s Kangaroo Styled Pouch

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It is recorded in the first book of the Bible, Genesis in chapter 3 verse 16, how our heavenly father memorably told Eve, "I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children." I've often contemplated how child bearing could not be painful given that a human mother has to push a baby the size of a medium watermelon out of an orifice smaller than a golf ball? Then today while perusing through an old ecology book I happened upon a picture of a mother Kangaroo giving birth. I thought to myself how lucky she would feel if she knew how human mothers have to give birth and just then it hit me: Eve must have originally been designed to give birth like a Kangaroo.

But the implications of that would be that Eve had to have a pouch. Where, would her pouch have been and do modern humans still have vestiges of this pouch? Men after all have nipples which we don't use and our embryos lose their tails as they develop in utero. So where is our vestigial pouch? At first I thought of looking for a faded darkly colored line just above the abdomen but after sharing this insight with my adult daughter she suggested that the belly button seems the most likely candidate. After all she reasoned "It did connect us to our mother's placenta." "Eureka!" I thought, "She has got a point there." You see the placenta is in fact a pouch that sustains a developing fetus throughout the whole development cycle.

Suppose Eve had not sinned and given birth to her first born vaginally, it is very possible that a premature embryo could have crawled out of her birth canal and up her pubic hair right into a tightly clenched umbilical opening where it would have attached itself to a teat to finish developing. This of course means that our nipples would have been considerably lower. It's either that or Eve was meant to lay eggs. Echidnas after all lay one egg which they develop in a pouch too. So there you have it: Eve might have been born with a kangaroo styled pouch.
UPDATE - 14 months ago
This essay is an exercise in creative thinking. It's only purpose is to possibly answer, "How is it that Eve before the fall was supposed to give birth? Any type of vaginal birth of a fully grown baby would hurt. Yet God told Eve that a painful child birth was a product of the fall and not the natural order. So would have a baby left her birth canal without causing pain?
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sunny2
sunny2
14 months ago: Dwayne.... Here we go again. You certainly have an interesting concept.
Kangaroo pouch? Huh...I don't think we have anything that resembles a pouch. This writing is a little sleazy.
I'm religious and a baby to me is a miracle. Many doctors who deliver babies are in awe by it. I suggest you read some medical papers on childbirth.
Our hips widen to accommodate the baby like the rest of our body changes. Our hips go right back after childbirth. I gained 30 lbs with my first and that was it. I lost the weight quickly and went back to 108lbs. My doctor put me on eating a lot of fruits and salads and no junk food and swimming was good for me. During carrying, many husbands become symptomatic and that is no myth. If you are looking for comparison that's one that you might consider if you are looking for similarities.
I was in the delivery room 2 hours and out. Didn't even feel a thing, except for the beginning of the contractions which was new to me. The baby was more important to me. I had next to no morning sickness in the first 3 months. I just didn't like the smell of certain foods. All I remember is I had a beautiful baby. "Most women" forget about the pain of childbirth that's why we can have more.
The umbilical cord is the baby's source of oxygen and nourishment.
When it works properly, the baby gets its nourishment to grow. The doctor told me this right a way.
The umbilical cord can cause very serious problem because many times it gets wrapped around the baby's neck and can cause other dangerous conditions. Having a baby is not a joke.
14 months ago: How was Eve supposed to give birth to a full grown baby out of her birth canal without the process causing her excruciating pain? My theory here is that the baby was born premature, much like that of a Kangaroo. This means no pain for the mother, just as the Bible says. By the way, sleazy, means dishonest or immoral. What part of this essay is dishonest or immoral?
sunny2
sunny2
14 months ago: I didn't say you were. I always enjoy what you write.
I don't think it is a correct to compare any human birth to the pouch of a kangaroo no matter which way you say so that to me is kind of off track. It isn't right.
I think people misinterpret the Bible.
14 months ago: 1. I didn't say that you said I was. You said, "This writing is a little sleazy." And I asked you, what part of it was "dishonest or immoral." Sleazy as defined by the Encarta dictionary means dishonest or immoral. I'm asking you to clarify what you said.


2. A Catholic priest once told me that no animal has a soul. He also told me that humans have an immortal soul. I don't believe either of those doctrines to be biblical. The soul according to Genesis is the body made alive by the spirit of God and the spirit that animates the body is not the soul but the spirit of God who gave it. All living things are powered by the spirit of God. God is therefore in all creatures not just humans so kangaroos are no less entitled to respect than humans are.


3. That being said there is nothing wrong with having an inquisitive mind. Why shouldn't I propose or postulate as to the origins of birth before pain?
sunny2
sunny2
14 months ago: Dwayne, Not at all. You should have an inquisitive mind. I'm sorry. I didn't mean anything by it.
I agree that all living things are powered by the spirit of God.
I miss each one of my doggies because they were part of our family and love unconditionally.
I guess when you are a women and you deliver a child you worry about everything being right, but a women's body does accommodate the birthing.
Sunny

14 months ago: Still doesn't answer my question but I do agree that the miracle of birth is amazing, which is why I am curious about it. God told Eve that she would have pain in childbirth as a consequence of her sin. This means that before her sin she would not have had pain. If birthing happened at 9 months as it does today than it would have caused her pain even if she had not sinned but the Bible is clear, pain in child birth came after sin not before it so what would have child birthing for Eve been like before sin?
sunny2
sunny2
14 months ago: Dwayne, Maybe it is a question that can't be answered because it is meant to be a mystery to us, or possibly it is just simply that she wouldn't have pain before sin as the Bible states.
When most women carry a child to full term, they are happy and look forward to the birth of the little one with joy. We go through the pain because we want that baby more than anything else in the world. For many women, they will tell you that the more children they had the easier it was, or it could be they got use to it. Probably kind of scared with the first one. I don't think we can answer that question. We can wonder.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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14 months ago: Are you accepting opposing viewpoints? How about this?

The act, eating the 'forbidden fruit', that caused the fall from grace also causes pregnancy. There is no mention of Eve birthing any children while in the Garden, only after her exit in disgrace.

Furthermore, if I'm not mistaken, the serpent (literally translated "enchanter") participated in Eve's first encounter with the forbidden fruit, and Adam partook with her afterward. Then you have the first son Cane and the second son Abel. The elder son told the first lie recorded in the Bible, and Satan is called the Father of Lies.

Exercise in creative thinking.

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