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Boston’s Mayor Vows To Block Chick-Fil-A From City.

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Many years ago, a new fast-food restaurant called Chick-fil-A was built on a small piece of property adjacent to the local mall. We decided to explore the new restaurant and found that it was clean and comfortable. The food was tasty, albeit somewhat overpriced, and the atmosphere was friendly. With time, the restaurant developed a reputation for donating food to several private schools and church groups. At first, we didn't think it odd that the toys in the restaurant's kids meal were Bible-based in nature, but the feeling of "getting a little church with your chicken" was more noticeable with each visit.

I've never had an issue with the separation of chicken and state, but this restaurant chain has established a long record of discrimination and homophobia by donating to anti-gay causes and involving itself in debates about marriage equality with the company president's recent public comments suggesting same-sex marriage is "inviting God's judgment on our nation" plunged the restaurant chain into national headlines. The company's message has called for several boycotts from customers and at least one city … Boston.

"Chick-fil-A doesn't belong in Boston. You can't have a business in the city of Boston that discriminates against a population. We're an open city, we're a city that's at the forefront of inclusion. That's the Freedom Trail. That's where it all started right here. And we're not going to have a company, Chick-fil-A or whatever the hell the name is, on our Freedom Trail." – Thomas M. Menino, Mayor – Boston, Massachussetts

The chain is reportedly considering the opening of a new restaurant on Boston's Union Street, across the City Hall and a Holocaust Memorial, but Mayor Menino is adamantly opposed. He was able to block the building of a Walmart last year, criticizing the retail giant's impact on neighborhood business and lower-wage workers, and it looks like he may try to do the same to Chick-fil-A because of their discriminatory policies.

I hope that others follow suit. While I certainly applaud those who stand up for what they believe in and put their money where their mouth is, I believe that this captain will go down with his ship. There are many, many other places to buy chicken sandwiches that don't come with a side of homophobia. Fair-minded chicken-eaters will surely consider other restaurants. I certainly will.

Will you be boycotting Chick-fil-A?

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Out Of The Box
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10 months ago: I don't boycott a business according to their politics, same as I don't care about an entertainers politics, until they try to make me listen. Chic-filet's job, as far as I am concerned, is to make tasty chicken sandwiches, and an entertainer's job is to entertain me, not lecture me.

As long as their politics are not on display where I do business with them, I will continue to let them serve me.
10 months ago: I agree with you to an extent. As for Chick-Fil-A, the company's president actually made an announcement earlier in the week claiming "guilty as charged" and consequently mixed politics with chicken sandwiches and waffle fries.

Smart entertainers keep their politics to themselves in an effort to avoid limiting their potential fan base. Management at Chick-Fil-A doesn't care if they offend a significant potential customer base.
10 months ago: Sell your product not your religious views. I don't return to stores where they have made an effort to offend me by expressing their religious views while I am attempting to purchase a needed item. I will attend a church or synagogue to get that lecture.

One fanatic misunderstood what I asked and proceeded to chastise my language, I noticed the religious literature on the counter and took my several hundred dollar one time purchase elsewhere. Obviously the store could afford to offend customers by being super sensitive (even though there were no offensive words in my question) and offend the customer instead of make a sale. They store closed within months of my visit. No loss as they were not selling much due to their extreme religious prejudicial treatment of customers. Some people just aren't cut out for sales.

I rarely eat at C-F-A and have no desire to eat there again due to the likelihood that they will break out in religious teachings and may be offended by my lack of respect for their uptight religious attitude.
Out Of The Box
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10 months ago: I just feel like everyone is entitled to their opinion, and everyone has a right to express that opinion. I'm not so insecure that someone's different outlook is going to deprive me of a tasty chicken sandwich. I also won't have to drive across town, wasting my time, gas, and elevating my blood pressure just because someone said something that
I don't believe. Otherwise, every time I heard someone say how much Obama has helped this country, I would have to go find somewhere else to do business. Not that it happens much lately.

Boycotting is consumer fascism, trying to take away the freedoms granted in the Constitution.
10 months ago: Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion and has a right to express it.

I respectfully disagree with your position regarding boycotting. Boycotts work ... and they are often the only way for consumers to have their voices heard. Money talks ... and many business don't listen until the money starts talking somewhere else. The laws of supply and demand are extremely powerful and an interruption in demand resulting from a boycott sends a veryu clear message.

It's often worth the time, effort and expense to patronize a business that supports your beliefs. It's equally rewarding to avoid those that don't.
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10 months ago: Yes, boycotts DO work to silence the opinions of others. The mayor in Boston speaks out of both of his face when he says he'll block the freedom of someone he disagrees with, in the name of freedom.

I could see boycotting a business that employs child slave labor, (Apple) or uses unfair hiring policies(Apple), or if they tortured the chickens in the processing, or even if he substituted possum meat.

But if he wants to put religious figurines in his happy meals, that's his right. If Tom Cruise thinks he is the descendant of some alien race, that's his business, not mine. If Google wants to come out and support gay marriage, that's their right also. I wouldn't propose a boycott because, first, they have a right to voice their opinion. And also first, not everyone in the company believes the same as the Google or Chic Fil A mouthpieces. A boycott is only going to hurt the little guy in the organization, not the multi-millionaire tycoon.
9 months ago: You make a very good point. The little guy will certainly be the one who gets hurt. And the mouthpiece will ultimately have to answer to him.
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9 months ago: And the little guy will still be out of a job.
9 months ago: Chick-fil-A is doing just fine and no bunch of Christaphobes boycotting is going to make a bit of difference.

These days no one in Christian circles has to make an "effort to offend" anyone. All you have to do is put a scripture verse on a napkin and you get some jerk face tied into knots.

Should we know ban the wearing of Yakamas, decorative menorahs or pictures of the Torah in kosher delis? Not. Go take you bigoted azzes somewhere else to eat.

Imagine going into a Jamaican restaurant to get some food and getting offended by seeing picture of the Lion of Judah, Haile Selassie I or other emblems of Rastafarianism. How stupid is that?

When people are stupendously insecure as to who they are in the face of others, that is the type of idiotic and irrational behavior they exhibit.
9 months ago: Diatribes – I usually consider you to be objective for the most part and will cut you some slack even when you clearly are not.

However, you have posted the following on your website and I'd like an explanation:

Chick-Fil–A supports people who believe:

- All Gay People Molest Children

- Gay people have sex with animals

- Gay people will destroy the earth

- Gay people should be put to death by the government

Now, Chick-Fil-A has donated charity money to Focus on the Family, the Marriage and Family Foundation, and the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. Where are any of the above assertions documented in relation to those specific organizations?


Chick-Fil-A's management DOES believe that homosexuality is a sexual deviancy and that it is not healthy for society. However there is no where I have seen that they discriminate in their hiring practices or refuse to serve any specific group of people. Document and correct me if I'm wrong.

It is not only disingenuous but libelous to make those types of claims with ZERO substantiation. Again, chapter and verse any evidence to buttress that position.

You and some select others may not like their stance and you are entitled to that. However, publishing straight up lies about them is simply reprehensible.

We need to operate above that kind of rhetorical non-sense, right?
9 months ago: Chick-Fil-A's corporate management has a long history of donating food and cash to openly-hostile foes of the LGBT community and marriage equality. Their donations have been the subject of many news articles, most recently in US News & World Report (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/07/27/chick-fil-as-controversial-gay-marriage-beef?s_cid=rss:chick-fil-as-controversial-gay-marriage-beef&page=2).

I really do try to be objective and, I'm certain, there are some issues about which I feel extremely passionate. Open hostility to the LGBT community on the part of those who call themselves Christians is one such item.

While the beliefs of management at Chick-Fil-A, and any other US company, are certainly legitimate and worthy of respect, the playing field changed with the company's president declared in no uncertain terms "Guilty as charged". Yes, Chick-Fil-A is openly hostile toward the LGBT community.

Continued ...
9 months ago: I did not post "straight up lies". The company is more than happy to substiate the claims against them.

Every single time that a "Christian" says hateful things about a homosexual they are being "disingenuous" and "libelous" and not once have then been held to task. In the public forum, I owe you no explanation or substantiations and I'll point you to the news media for more data. (A quick Google search will provide hours of reading material regarding your friends at Focus on the Family and the like.)

While homosexuality may be "against your religion" it is NOT against the law. "Good Christians" would do well to learn the difference. The Radical Christian movement is doing a disservice to all of the good and just followers of Christ's love by turning their backs on their neighbors.

I've lost loved ones and family members over this Chick-Fil-A matter. Until you wake up one morning to realize that someone you care about has chosen waffle fries over your love and happiness, you will not understand.

The warning on the website that you found offensive has been removed. I hope that you'll continue to read the blog and share your thoughts with readers. A well-written and thoughtful response is always welcome.
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9 months ago: ..."Every single time that a "Christian" says hateful things about a homosexual they are being "disingenuous" and "libelous"...

Really????

However, you did sidestep the question of clarification. Does Chic Fil A discriminate against homosexuals in their hiring practices, or don't they? Do they refuse to serve homosexuals with the same respect as they do heterosexuals, or not?

And lastly, I really hope I misinterpreted.... "I've lost loved ones and family members over this Chick-Fil-A matter. Until you wake up one morning to realize that someone you care about has chosen waffle fries over your love and happiness, you will not understand."...

It sounds like you demanded fealty to your cause, and had to cut the ones loose who wouldn't join you. Does your happiness really depend on whether or not your loved ones eat a tasty chicken sandwich?
9 months ago: "I owe you no explanation or substantiations and I'll point you to the news media for more data. "

You are right. You don't OWE your readers an explanation. However it would be the right thing to do providing that you really want your views and information to be seen as objective and trustworthy as well as honestly considered.

Anyone can cut and paste incendiary claptrap to substantiate claims that are sensationalistic and get attention yet have no basis at all in truth or reality. Those things do matter to much of the reading public even if not to the lion share of your audience.

"The warning on the website that you found offensive has been removed."

Also, I never said I found those comments that you posted to be offensive. I simply called you out on the veracity of the claims and challenged you to defend them. Instead, it seems you've conceded the case and folded.

You KNOW that those statements are in fact lies and cannot be defended or why on earth would you have removed them?

You proved my point.

9 months ago: I didn't sidestep anything. There is no defending Chick-Fil-A without stepping onto the hate train and claiming "Guilty as charged" right along with the company's president.

No. You didn't misinterpret. There are those with so much faith that they believe God is telling them to choose "a tasty chicken sandwich" instead of the feelings and freedoms of their sons, daughters, parents and siblings. When they spend money at Chick-Fil-A they are emphatically stating that "Yes, I know Chick-Fil-A donates millions of dollars to organizations and politicians that don't want you to enjoy the sames rights and priveleges that I do but f*ck you because my preacher says I should eat these expensive waffle fries."
9 months ago: I may be wrong, but I assume at this point you are not going to address either OUT OF THE BOX or myself on this one anymore since you've posted other pieces and have not come back here.

DAO - You do a good job at putting out informative posts, you are a good writer and I appreciate your WORK. I've expressed that to you in the past.

However, don't be above correction or start things you can't/won't finish.

That's just lame.

At least you did delete the "STRAIGHT UP LIES" even if you won't own up to posting them in the first place or apologize to your readers for posting misinformation.

That too is lame.
9 months ago: Huey,

You ARE wrong. I had a difficult weekend during which my family grew concerned about my blood pressure to the point that the asked me to set my laptop aside to relax.

Have you ever had any black friends? If it was 1964 and you insisted on going to the local Woolworths for lunch even though your black friends were clearly not wanted there with you? Would you still eat at Woolworths if your friends couldn't join you?

Frankly, the subject of marriage equality is such a hot topic that I don't need to engage in cyber debates ... there is enough hostility in most communities to go around.

I did not post "STRAIGHT UP LIES" and until you can prove that I DID, I'd really like to debate another topic.
Out Of The Box
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9 months ago: Huey is black.

And I was touched by your analogy to Woolworth's. But....Chik File A is not refusing service to homosexuals. They are just as welcome as anyone. And....most of the CFA stores are independently owned.

Your battle is not with Chik Fil A. It is solely with Dan Cathy, the one person who made the remarks and donated all that money to anti-homosexual causes.
9 months ago: What Chick-Fil-A is doing is WORSE than refusing service to homosexuals. The company puts cash in the pockets of politicians and organizations whose goals are to deny federal rights to same-sex couples.
9 months ago: What's funny Box is that I was going to ask DAO to ask YOU if you thought I had any black friends. LOL

"I did not post "STRAIGHT UP LIES" and until you can prove that I DID, I'd really like to debate another topic."

@ DOA – this is what YOU posted on your website --

Chick-Fil–A supports people who believe:
- All Gay People Molest Children
- Gay people have sex with animals
- Gay people will destroy the earth
- Gay people should be put to death by the government

Those are STRAIGHT UP lies. If they were not lies, you would not have removed them from your website.

We all make mistakes and it takes a big person to admit when they do. You need to own up to yours. Your posting these inaccuracies may have been unintentional becuase you were ignorant of the facts, however you still put them out there and they are lies.

As for the Woolworth's analogy, I don't see where anyone at CFA is refusing to serve or refusing to hire anyone from any particular community. Paranoia, fear, and insecurity in the face of others, often makes folks see a threat where there is NONE.

Also, last time I checked it's a lot easier to spot a black person than a homosexual.

"Frankly, the subject of marriage equality is such a hot topic that I don't need to engage in cyber debates ... there is enough hostility in most communities to go around."

Okay. But you put it out there. I was just responding. That's fair, isn't it?

As for your health, please take care of yourself. HBP can be serious and you really want to keep that in check. That's advice my community needs to pay attention to as well.
9 months ago: The color of your skin is of no concern to me. I learned a long time ago that "It's what's inside that counts".

I know exactly what I posted on my blog. I removed the image not because it was a "STRAIGHT UP LIE" but because it, clearly, was extraordinarily controversial. The purpose of the blog is not to create controversy but to encourage healthy discussion about random observations finding something "nice" to say every other day.

I am not ignorant. I admit when I make mistakes.
9 months ago: "The color of your skin is of no concern to me"

My blackness goes to the bone. That's what's inside of me.

So now my viewpoint is dismissed because I'm not the type of black man you want me to be? That's rich.

You were the one who brought up race; not me or anyone else.

When you post what you beielve to be THE TRUTH you should let it stand. Otherwise it just makes the purveyor of the position look weak.

9 months ago: Are you saying you were "Born This Way"?

Of course your viewpoint is NOT dismissed. As a rule, I don't see color, I only mentioned it in a (failed) attempted analogy.

Had the image been included in a single blog post, it would not have been removed. But because it appeared on the "home page", I thought it best to delete it. It's never my intention to anger or offend.
9 months ago: "I am not ignorant. I admit when I make mistakes."

Sounds like you just did.
9 months ago: Also--I'm not angry or offended.

I never thought you intended to create any of that.

As for the "born this way"; Ask Sheryl Swoops.
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Out Of The Box
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9 months ago: Ya didn't like the way that one looked, right out there in print for everyone to see? I know you will use the moment of inner reflection wisely. You do, and I mean this most sincerely, seem like a wise person.
9 months ago: The image looked perfectly fine. An extraordinarily negative response to the image was received from just one reader. Consequently, it was removed before controversy might excel ... and for no other reason.
9 months ago: Came accross this on another website -

"How is the LGBT community's treatment of Chick-fil-A in this issue different than the treatment Jewish people received from The National Socialist German Workers' Party in Germany during the mid 1930s ?

I see a lot of parallels in the LGBT community's actions today. The CEO of a company states he has a different opinion and belief because of his religious convictions and the group who is always promoting, and asking for, tolerance and understanding is now in full attack and punish mode.

Just who is denying who's rights in this situation?"

Interesting take and sentiment.

9 months ago: I don't know who wrote this first, but when I read it I thought of you.

"When gays get so angry about a chicken sandwich, it is because Chick-fil-A has given around $5 million to fight to discriminate against us. When we praise brave Eagle Scouts who give up their badges in protest of the Boy Scouts of America's prejudice, it's not about scoring political points; it's because there are kids in dens who are being taught to believe that they are less than equal. When we rant about the pastor who preaches that gays should be thrown into a concentration camp, we scream out of fear.

And our fears are justified -- in the last seven days, a lesbian in Nebraska was carved with a knife, a gay man in Oklahoma was firebombed, and a girl in Kentucky was kicked and beaten -- her jaw broken and her teeth knocked out -- while her assailants allegedly hurled anti-gay slurs at her.

So no, it's not just about a chicken sandwich."
9 months ago: Believe it or not, you and I are on the same side.

All that stuff you wrote are atrocious and deplorable behaviors.

Saying one believes a marriage is supposed to be between a man and a woman should in NO WAY encourage violence against anyone. My problem has to do with definition and terminology versus taking away folks rights to live their lives their own way.

What happens unfortunately is that the worse is brought out in people when all of a sudden a difference of opinion is branded as HATE.

It's difficult enough to generate good will with diverse groups. If gets even more difficult when any difference of opinion is labeled as hateful, prejudiced, intolerant, fearful, etc. That's not road to harmony.

Personally I don't hate gay people. I don't hate any people and some of them do a darn good job in getting me to come close, but I refuse to go there. Father forgive them for they know not what they do.

I have family and close friends who are gay. We just share a difference of opinions on this and some other particular issues. That does not stop us from loving each other, talking to each other, partying together, going camping and being with each other regardless of our differences.

There should be no fear or hate involved on either side. Unfortunately not everyone is like that.

As far as CFA goes, I can understand certain folks not buying their food. It's their money and their prerogative.

However, what I find despicable and evil is politicians and mean spirited folks on the other side trying to put them out of business and take away employment opportunities because of the personal opinion of someone in management.

That's just wrong no matter how you slice it.
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9 months ago: Ditto what Huey said.

I think people who physically assault other people simply for being different than them should be punished to the full extent of the law. I would defend all of my gay friends and relatives with my own life, if necessary.

But I defend freedom of speech just as doggedly.

So do the tens of thousands of people who turned out for ChickFilA appreciation day.

For those like John Mohler, 50, of Thornton, Colo., eating at Chick-fil-A on Wednesday was about defending free speech. Mohler said he doesn't share Cathy's belief--only his rights to air them.

"I'm not sure I agree with his position on gay marriage," said Mohler, who drove to Englewood from downtown Denver on his lunch break. "But I applaud the owner for speaking his mind, and that's why I'm here."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/chic...
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9 months ago: This is one time that trying to pull the PC card, the sympathy card, the "we can scream louder than you and embarrass you with all this publicity until you just shut up" card, well, it just backfired.

I think people are finally getting tired of being told what is politically correct and what is not.

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