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Bill passes to subjugate entire U.S.A as a “Battleground”

Posted 5 months ago|15 comments|407 views
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soulreaver
Los Angeles, CA
Late at night on Dec. 1, 2011 a bill (S.1867) was passed by the US Senate that would allow the U.S. Military to operate with impunity, and grant the U.S. Military the unchecked power to arrest, detain, interrogate, and even assassinate United States citizens with impunity. The Bill passed 97 to 3, even though Obama has already shown signs of rejection.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s1...

It is in my opinion our duty to communicate with people of such radical dangerous laws that are being put out into play while they sleep cozily under a false sense of security. It's also very interesting for me to see that there is no "mainstream or professional" coverage or investigative reporting being done in the media, so far. If we let this happen under our noses I fear we will soon pay for our negligence in Blood as a country and as human beings.

A similar Bill (HR1540) had already passed the House earlier this year. The Senate and House versions now need to be combined to form a new Bill before President Obama is able to sign it into law or veto it.

Please don't let this info turn into fear, but use this information to bring public awareness. When the time comes before we face our children, we should all be looking into a mirror.

Godspeed, -SR
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soulreaver
soulreaver
Los Angeles, CA
5 months ago: Just a quick note...

Don't be fooled that there is an exemption for American citizens from the mandatory detention requirement (section 1032 of the bill), but no exemption for American citizens from the authorization to use the military to indefinitely detain people without charge or trial (section 1031 of the bill). So, the result is that, under the bill, the military has the power to indefinitely imprison American citizens, but it does not "have to" use its power unless ordered to do so.

But you don't have to believe it. Instead, read what one of the bill's sponsors, Sen. Lindsey Graham said about it on the Senate floor: "1031, the statement of authority to detain, does apply to American citizens and it designates the world as the battlefield, including the homeland."
BadCyborg
BadCyborg
San Antonio, TX
5 months ago: Just another milestone on the road to either a gray, soviet-style life or the 2nd American Revolution.

If you own a single gun - purely sporting or military style makes no difference - HSD considers you a potential domestic terrorist (PDT).

Do you know the Constitution? Can you - HORRORS!! - actually quote parts of it? You, also, are a PDT.

Do you hold to the Founders' vision of limited government? You guessed it, PDT.

Veteran? PDT

Don't believe the Executive branch will abuse this new power? OK. But remember. Burying your head in the sand only makes your **** a better/more prominent target.
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5 months ago: This is a 682 page document which is introduced as follows:


To authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2012 for military activities of
the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for defense
activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe military personnel
strengths for such fiscal year, and for other purposes.


Would you care to elucidate and single out where in this tome of a document it says what you suggest?
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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5 months ago: Sections 1031 and 1032 deal with detention.
Out Of The Box
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 Moderator
5 months ago: Section 1032 (b) (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS----The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section (foreign operative, member of al Queda, participated in attacks on US) does not extend to citizens of the US.

Looks like our troops are being decommissioned, only redeployed. To here.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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5 months ago: should read "are not being decommissioned"
BadCyborg
BadCyborg
San Antonio, TX
5 months ago: How about Sec. 1031 (D)?
(d) CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in this section is intended to limit or expand the authority of the President8 or the scope of the Authorization for Use of Military Force.

Do you trust Obama to stay on the reservation, Box? I sure as FRACK don't!!
5 months ago: Can anyone spell "DHS FEMA" camp detention by Executive Order during a(any) National Emergency?
BadCyborg
BadCyborg
San Antonio, TX
5 months ago: Why am I personally concerned about S 1867 being misused? How about If Mike Vanderboegh and the ACLU agree on it? I'm still having trouble getting my head around Vanderboegh and the American Criminal Liers Union agreeing about ANYTHING!!! But if a hard-core, Pro 2nd Amendent, constitutionalist like Vanderboegh agrees with the ultra-leftist/progressive ACLU agree that S.1867 is a recipe for disaster, then that is something I find EXTREMELY significant.
5 months ago: Good information and very much appreciated. Thank you for putting this out here.
5 months ago: What about...

"Subtitle C—Missile Defense Matters
Sec. 231. Enhanced oversight of missile defense acquisition programs.
Sec. 232. Ground-based Midcourse Defense Program.
Sec. 233. Missile defense cooperation with Russia."

...does that mean they get to share the "go" codes?
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
5 months ago: I doubt the Republicans will take out the bad parts in the House bill, since they are the ones to insist on them in the Senate Bill, so our only hope is that Obama will veto the bill instead of signing. Of course the defense bill passed with only a few dissenters (including my Senator Ron Wyden, and Rand Paul) so the Dems are also complicit. http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/201...
Out Of The Box
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5 months ago: "...the bill's chief architect, Sen. Carl Levin (Democrat-Mich.), tried to persuade skeptics that the bill wasn't so bad. His pitch? "The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States," he said on the Senate floor on Monday. The bill would just let the government detain a citizen in military custody, not force it to do that."


In the UK, OWS is already listed alongside Al-queda AND FARC as a terrorist organization.


So here's the scenario:

A massive buildup of troops, (currently 3 million, including mercenaries and other paramilitary)
along with
10 years of live-fire training in urban and rural warfare (Iraq and Afghanistan)

A seemingly deliberate economic melt-down that was started in 1998

The redeployment of troops to home bases coinciding with escalating domestic tension.

The passing of laws enabling the military to act as domestic police, giving them powers outside the scope of the Constitution.


Is it just me, or does this all seem enormously Machiavellian?

soulreaver
soulreaver
Los Angeles, CA
5 months ago: That's one way of looking at it, as well there are others. It reminds me of...

" In my view... It is better to be impetuous than cautious, because fortune is a woman and if you wish to dominate her you must beat her and batter her. It is clear that she will let herself be won by men who are impetuous rather than by those who step cautiously. " -Niccolo Machiavelli
5 months ago: Is it just you? Not likely. The "Government" can do anything it wants with the stroke of a pen. We accepted laws to be placed that allows FEMA (now under DHS) to control everything (including the Congress and the President) to use the military on U.S. soil once the Emergency Declaration has been signed.

There does not seem to be any guidelines of a full national emergency.

It could be something as simple as a few folk shouting at the White House.

It should be no shock that the U.S. Military is now being shipped home for their next mission.

My question is...

Has anyone that is required to take the oath of office or the U.S. military code oath been taught what....

the Constitution says....or are they (like our exaulted Constitutional Attorney President) just ignorant of the words on that decaying piece of garbage?

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