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Barbara Boxer Gets Called Racist! Ouch!

Posted 31 months ago|24 comments|2,396 views
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Rudi Stettner
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Barbara Boxer was holding a hearing about green energy sources. She wanted to make the point that in her opinion, it would create jobs and be good for the economy. Appearing at the hearing was Harry Alford, a CEO and a chairman of the Black Chamber of Commerce. He was expecting to debate the bill on its merits. He was opposed to the bill.


Rather than move towards his reasons for opposing the bill, Boxer read from some resolutions by African American organisations.Alford apparently felt that the issue should be decided on its merits. He resented Boxer's approach of bringing out opinions on the basis of race. He felt that the Senator was being condescending by bringing out the opinion of an African American group when she had an African American at the hearing. He seemed to feel that race had no place in classifying opinions.

It was interesting seeing a member of the party that postures as a friend of African Americans being dealt a race card and being accused of being racially prejudiced and divisive. Fortunately, the delightful exchange was captured on video. Judge for yourself. Did Mr. Alford have a point?

Reprinted with permission from Magdeburgerjoe.com
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JAK Gladney
JAK Gladney
Saint Albans, WV
31 months ago: Boxer was addressing the notion, introduced by Alford in his opening statements and later in the hearing (when Alford said, “Let me speak for the African-American community, because I am African American”), that "the black community" is a monolith, represented solely by the National Black Chamber of Commerce and its members.

In fact, Alford's isn't the sole minority business-oriented viewpoint here--see Boxer's statement from the coalition "100 Black Men of Atlanta", a point she tried to explain over Alford's hostile, defensive testimony.
31 months ago: Mr. Alford was kind of rude at the beginning, but Ms. Boxer was graceful dealing with him. And the racism accusation is absolute bull. Mr. Alford came to the hearing specifically representing a conservative black organization opposed to a clean energy bill on the grounds, if I understand correctly, that it would deprive black people of jobs. Ms. Boxer was perfectly justified in pointing out other black organizations that support the bill and believe it to be a boon to black people. Mr. Alford's racism accusation was unjustified and reprehensible.

And TCG, that was extremely juvenile.
31 months ago: OH, I get it. A notion meaning a conception. How can BoxerShorts square that? Oh yeah I forgot, SHE is a minority. That makes the best arguement I have ever seen. Hey WHITE DUDE... shut up and let your minority wife speak for you. Better yet, Hey Black Dude... shut up and let your double minority wife speak for you. Venus rules!
31 months ago: HEYnoninubness? Are you that young or naive? I'm guessing young and never had to work elbow to elbow with a stinkie black or mexican while digging a ditch in the hot sun. Go back to your computer science course. Leave the crap out of it. It was a valid point. You don't think so then argue the point. So, I ask. Where in any of her statements did the disquingious Senator form California not demean Harry?

I don't give a crud about how Barbie might feel. She is a PUBLIC SERVANT and needs to be reminded of that. She serves Harry. No matter what she thinks.
31 months ago: First, TCG, stop insulting me. It's at least as juvenile as attacking Barbara Boxer for her appearance, and it makes you look like a mean-spirited jerk.

Now then... You utterly failed to find anything specific in what she said that was racist. Then you attacked her makeup and lighting. I pointed out that she was perfectly justified in bringing up other black organizations, as Mr. Alford was there in his capacity as head of a black organization himself, and you talked about "stinkie [sic] black or mexican" and said "it was a valid point," although I'm not sure which point you're referring to, since you haven't made any other than that Ms. Boxer looks bad in a photo.

Have you actually got anything to say, or are you literally just here to denigrate her appearance and lob insults at people?
31 months ago: Funny coming from the usual suspects and all.
Rudi Stettner
Rudi Stettner
 Moderator
31 months ago: That whole discussion should have centered on the merits of the issues. Group resolutions are idiotic. It doesn't matte which organisation. Scientist quotes and excerpts from well written articles would have been far better. We think too much in blocs. Blacks, women, Jews, Hispanics, etc. We shoud think about what is best public policy. Alford may have been head of an African American organisation, but that does not mandate his loyalty to every plank of a liberal agenda. If he made his point that he is not "owned by the Democratic Party or anyone else with a little bit of testiness, then I have no problem with that. It was just a refreshing change of pace to see a liberal get hit with the race card.

By the way, I picked the nastiest looking photo I could of SENATOR Boxer. Years ago, I remember a picture running in the paper of a local pol with his finger up his nose. It's a nasty trick, but it's fun
31 months ago: JAK and noni:
I have an observation (for what it is worth.)
On first glance liberals' egos blind them.
On second glance liberals are intellectually corrupt.
On third glance, liberals cannot help themselves.

Noni:
WHAT DOES THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN HAVE TO DO WITH IT?
WHAT DOES RACE HAVE TO DO WITH IT?

On fourth glance, liberals are stuck on racism and stupid.

I'm sorry.
31 months ago: redstateguy, I congratulate you. You successfully dodged responding in the article I posted content from the Constitution in (http://rantrave.com/Rant/Eric-Holder-Mulls-Charging-Republicans.aspx), and your first post here is just your usual liberalz-r-teh-crazy blather. I suppose I could waste some more time going into detail about how Mr. Alford was there to present himself as a representative of African Americans, but I don't think you'd listen. I don't, in fact, think you care.

Your posts never have any content. They are rude and insulting, and obviously intended to anger people. I don't think you're really a "red state guy" at all.

I think you're a troll.

So again, I congratulate you. You've trolled me well. You kept me on the string for quite a while. I've been sitting here thinking, "oh man, no one could possibly be this rude and not realize how he's coming off." I can't believe it took me this long to figure out it's intentional.

This will be the last time I respond to you. I wanted you to know that at least for the moment, the game's over.

Oh, and on the off chance you really are the thoughtlessly rude and insulting person you appear to be, then all I can say is I'm really sorry.
31 months ago: noni:
You and I agree. I do not care what the color of one's skin is. It obviously makes a difference to you. People like that are called racists. Shame on you!

Yes I fish, but mostly we anchor and fish with lures or bottom fish with nightcrawlers. We rarely troll, but sometimes we troll for crappie on the lakes.

You and your persuasion are destroying our free society. I am not sorry, I only want to defeat you.

Aufwiedersehen.
31 months ago: Rudi, again I should emphasize this: Mr. Alford was there specifically to make racially based arguments. Yes, the world ought to be colorblind, but the existence of groups like Mr. Alford's and the NAACP is indicative of the fact that we're not there yet. So when Mr. Alford arrived to argue as a representative of black people that the bill would be bad for black people, it was perfectly valid of the Senator to point out that other race-based groups support the legislation. Mr. Alford *started* the discussion around race. Why shouldn't Boxer answer that? If you want to crow about a liberal being called a racist for injecting race into a discussion, make sure she really did. I doubt the NAACP feels the same way Mr. Alford does about Senator Boxer's decision to quote them.
31 months ago: I don't like Boxer all that much but this time she kept her cool and Alford went overboard. Racist to bring to the table other black groups? I don't think so. She was right in presenting the other groups in support of the issue and he was wrong in calling it racists.

And for anyone wanting to call me out on the "black" terminoligy, show me your green card or keep quite. You are American just like I am. Being descended from Africans does not make you an African nor more than being descended from Europeans makes me a European.
31 months ago: If they were discussing a policy on fishing, and Mr. Alford representing one fishing group and Ms. Boxer quoting another fishing group, would we be having this discussion? Don't get hung up about race, it creates an environment of hate and distrust. And sometimes it is the minority that instigates it, sad but true. Not a red or blue state thing, just common sense.
JAK Gladney
JAK Gladney
Saint Albans, WV
31 months ago: So Alford says, "he [John Grant, of '100 Black Men of Atlanta'] should have been invited."

Let's acknowledge the elephant in the room. Alford was invited by Sen. Inhofe to further the fiction that opinion in the black community is neatly divided on clean energy investment. It's not. The statements Boxer entered into the record are more representative. Check the polling data: "African American voters (94%) and Hispanic voters (84%) also showed overwhelming support for clean energy investment," according to a Nov. 2008 Zogby post-election poll.

http://www.zogby.com/news/readnews.cfm?ID=1637

It's "racial" to invite Alford to represent the whole of black community opinion, and especially vile on an issue where he is clearly at odds with the majority of that community. Boxer was trying to put that opinion in proper perspective, and Alford was defensive. Some people don't like having their fiction workshopped.
31 months ago: November 2008? Dude your behind on the time scale.
31 months ago: Barbara Boxer is entering into the record a resolution that was passed by the NAACP. That organization passed a resolution, she feels it bears on the matter at hand, as do other documents from other organizations.

Harry Alford (doesn't know what the NAACP's resolution says), pipes up, "What does that mean?"

Boxer doesn't handle his interjection well. Alford's interjection wasn't well phrased, he wanted to understand what the NAACP's resolution said, but he didn't interject effectively and didn't get his question answered because he didn't ask it well. Both people didn't handle it well.
31 months ago: No kidding RSG? What does race have to do with it?

Let me clear this up once and for all. You mindless, little, better than others that want to infer that conservatives are the racists need to get a real job.

I am a manager in a large company. I have many people under my control. I am responsible for them to my company. I have a team that is 50% black, 25% hispanic and 25% white. I am lucky because we work as a team. I am even more lucky because my association with my employees has devloped into a department with a transfer waiting list. People want to work for me. I am white. Go figure that little tidbit out.
JAK Gladney
JAK Gladney
Saint Albans, WV
31 months ago: What does race have to do with it? Good question. Ask the guy representing an organization called the NATIONAL BLACK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

So who's injecting race here? Boxer, or the guy who invited the CEO of the NATIONAL BLACK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE?

So you're like any other social conservative: we're a colorblind society--until you can find a particular color to put a minority face on an issue, and then you play racial identity politics as well as any liberal activist. With this issue, it must have been some search.
31 months ago: Could it be a bit of the 'Uppity Blackman" calling the disrespectful to task? I think the question "what does that mean?" is fair. What does that mean? What is your meaning? What are you inferring? JAK? You must be purple. CEO of the National Black Chamber of Commerce? What does that mean? I'm asking you. What are you inferring? Because the guy is black he can't have a conservative view. Hey, Harry! You heard it from JAK and the others on the far left you uppity minority. Get back in line and learn how to 'step and fetch'. You guys are so onesided. Oh, did I pick a color here? It must have been one that I don't see in the mirror every morning. Dang, I'll have to turn on more lights.
31 months ago: jak
I wonder when you're going to wake up.
When liberal/socialists/demwhitocrats point fingers at others, they always blame their opponents for doing what the liberals are really doing. Clinton mastered it, and you are pretty good at it.
But, you won't notice.
JAK Gladney
JAK Gladney
Saint Albans, WV
31 months ago: Alford's opinion is just that: Alford's opinion. It's not representative of any seismic shift in the black community on this issue, and it's disingenuous to suggest otherwise--as he did in his opening statement, and later in his testimony (note that that gem is excluded from most of these soundbites--context is so important, if inconvenient).

“Let me speak for the African-American community, because I am African American." Imagine, for a second, that it was Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton who had said this, and not Harry Alford. We'd be subjected to the opinions of Armstrong Williams, J.C. Watts, Thomas Sowell, Alan Keyes, etc.--a demonstration of diversity of opinion within that community. And they'd be right. What keeps you from admitting as much now?
31 months ago: BoxerShorts opinion is just that: Boxers opinion.
30 months ago: Ok, black America, it is time to move forward, and stop accusing white people of racism! Unless you want white women that marry black men to stand up and scream! Obama's mamma was white!!! She married a man from Africa, who was born in Kanyadhiang. No one ever talks about her or recognizes her for her strength! Keep in mind, Ann Dunham married a black man during the height of racism (1961).
Who loved and raised her son? Ann Dunham! In my opinion, Black American's segregate themselves, when most White Americans are opened and accepting to integration. I bet Black Americans would even call "Ann Dunham" racist, if given half a chance. Sadly, the black community would rather forget her after having a child from a black man.
One more statement, I am a white woman that gets speeding tickets, every single time I am pulled over by a police officer. The only time, I ever got a warning was by a black police officer. He was the nicest man, thank you for giving me a warning. I cannot afford my insurance, even now!
Stop pointing the finger and just stand together, America!

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