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A Rare Show Of Civility

Posted 1 month ago|16 comments|266 views
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Altruist
Eugene, OR
The war between the Democrats and the Republicans have gotten progressively worse over time. It is especially evident during election years when both sides fling mud and lies at each other.

I was pleasantly surprised to hear that the two warring sides would declare a truce for a day.

It wasn't too long ago that during the State of the Union address, that half of the chamber would sit with stoney faced scowls, while the other half jumped up and applauded. Some of the people would shake their heads to deny what was being said and one particularly obnoxious Congressman even jumped up and yelled "You Lie".

Last year it was much better. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/...

When President Obama addresses the Union Tuesday there will be a lot of positive news. The economy has slowly but surely been getting better.

This may come as a giant surprise to those on the right since they only listen to Fox News and similar biased sources that claim that Obama is the worst president ever and that everything that is wrong with the world is his fault.

During this address, apparently the politicians on both side of the isle want to polish their tarnished images (11% approval) so they don't want to be shown on National TV acting like Jackasses as they usually do. This time many of the Congresspeople will be sitting next to a member of the opposite party in a rare demonstration of civility. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/...

I hope it becomes contagious.
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1 month ago: Where is the economy getting better, Al, when people still have no jobs? How are they going to get the guy who lost his home and property back all those lost years of working to have something. They will never again regain that lost time to have something sustainable in their lives. These people will have bad credit for the rest of their lives to keep them down and out.
The so called truce is just to stall the inevitable.
They will be fighting again and mud slinging when it comes down to the wire.
1 month ago: The Right is wrong for America. Obama has followed a slightly right of center policy in almost his entire presidency and still yet they find him deplorable. Obama's own democratic constituency has looked at him and wondered, "WTF?" yet The Right seems obsessed with tearing him down no matter how far right he goes. Obama could become a raging Tea Party fanatic establishing Sunday Blue Laws all across the country that the right would still call him a socialist leftist. Face it The Right has gone off the deep end and not until they get off this vendetta train against Obama will they recoup some of the credibility that they had.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
29 days ago: "Obama has followed a slightly right of center policy in almost his entire presidency and still yet they find him deplorable"

~During war every president has to follow a slightly right of center policy. The vast majority of people are right in the center...during war that shifts slightly to the right, because heaven forbid we don't give the soldiers another couple billion dollar airplanes....
anonymouse
anonymouse
Swaziland
1 month ago: Ally i agree,

"The war between the Democrats and the Republicans have gotten progressively worse over time" ...thanks to you.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
29 days ago: Sunny you are right. When Bush bailed out all of those banks with his TARP program he should have required them to renegotiate the loans of everyone threatened with foreclosure. Instead the banks made it even harder to get loans so the housing industry has been slow to recover and small businesses have had a hard time getting loans to start businesses so the recovery is slow. Watch the State of the Union and see if Obama can get the banks to help the homeowners.

Dwayne you are right. The Tea Party has pushed the republicans so far to the right that they even consider their front runners, Romney and Gingrich liberals.

The rabid hatred of Obama has nothing to do with ideology since as you pointed out, Obama has been very conservative and has coddled the 1% and Wall Street almost as bad as Bush. The only remaining reason for this hatred is the only thing that distinguishes Obama from all previous presidents - his color.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
25 days ago: Gotta disagree here. The ideology that Obama professed in order to get elected is what set the right against him. The fact that he hasn't followed his promises with more action only lends credence to his disingenuousness.
29 days ago: I am still waiting for my slice of the pie. Money industry got theirs, auto industry got theirs, rich got the rest near as I can tell, oh that's right..... that was the same guys.

Lend me a billion and let's see how much money I can make with it. No collateral of course, that isn't part of the deal. Oh yeah, 0.001% interest rate forever.

At least when I lost my house (after seven years of payments) my daughter was able to take it over, I just lost all the equity I had in it and only have to pay off a 2nd for as long as it takes at 3.5% instead of 7or8%.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
29 days ago: Sitting next to a member of the other party is not a show of civility, it's a show of idiocy. Nobody is going to get re-elected because they sat next to someone who they (and their supporters) think is the devil. The State of the Union should be done in front of a camera (and only a camera no congressional assembly needed) and broadcast to the nation...the congress people who destroyed this country know what the state of the union is...we don't need to see them clapping 50% of the time and acting like spoiled children the other 50%
29 days ago: On my part, not here.
29 days ago: "The economy has slowly but surely been getting better."....sort of like Global whatchamacallit is killing us all?

"The rabid hatred of Obama has nothing to do with ideology... The only remaining reason for this hatred is the only thing that distinguishes Obama from all previous presidents - his color.".....sort of like Global whatchamacallit is killing us all?

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Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
28 days ago: Pretty good State of the Union Address. All indications are that the nation's economy is improving despite everything the Republicans can do to make it worse.

Folk like Red are denialists who live in their own faulty version of reality.

Denial of Global warming doesn't make it go away. Each year we have more climate related emergencies like tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, record droughts, record heat. How are those forest fires in Texas right now Red? Isn't this supposed to be winter when you get rain and snow?

The denialists in Congress are dragging us back to the 19th century, and we will be left in the dust as all of the other nations in the world pass us by unless we rid Congress of the know nothing do nothing Republicans. http://www.stlbeacon.org/issues-politics...

Texans ban accepted science in their textbooks (and the nation's) and that makes us laugingstocks all over the world unable to compete.

Since Obama's policies went into effect we have gained 3 million jobs yet they say he has made things worse. 1.9 million last year - a better rate than 7 out of 8 of Bush's years.

Obama wants to invest in the economy. China invests 9% of it's GDP in infrastructure, the US only 2.5%. The US used to graduate more people from College than anyone else now we are 14th and half of the advanced degrees are foreigners who we kick out of the country before they can help the nation.

All of the Republicans want to do the opposite of what needs to be done, for example they want to give the millionaires twice as much and tax the middle class more. Romney only pays 15% taxes and he makes 4 times what I do all year in one day! Why does he have accounts in the Cayman islands and hidden Swiss accounts? This is all unearned income which means he doesn't work a lick. Gingrich is even worse. He would eliminate Capital gains so Romney would pay no taxes at all!.
27 days ago: I'm sorry Al, but first, Obama is a bold face liar. He flat out lied in his speech. It was disgraceful. Period.

And just because you say we are having more tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, droughts, heat and poopie diapers, must ONLY mean it is true.

For crying out loud.

Fools.
25 days ago: Al, I don't dislike President Obama personally at all, but I am disappointed.
The State of Union Address came across to me as the President being
emotionless as if his speech was nothing more than words said without meaning behind them. He said everything we needed to hear and that we have been waiting to hear for a long time. He should be for the greater good of the American people but nothing he says rings true to me. I can't pin point it. This was a very difficult administration and the Republicans did everything they could to defeat every single thing he brought to the table. He still is the President, and I felt could of done more to protect our interests. I think the American people have been sacrificed for the selfish endeavors of political greed and power. Much of the antics should have been stopped early on before we got in so deep that it will be years to turn this economy around.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
22 days ago: All of us progressives are disappointed with Obama because we all think he could have done a lot more for the good of the American people. The problem is that he came into office promising to unite the country and work in a bipartisan manner.

To do this he started out with conservative positions, ideas that in most cases came from republicans. He came out with cap and Trade instead of a simple carbon tax, and an insurance based health care instead of single payer (both Republican ideas) thinking that by proposing their own ideas he would get their support.

He didn't realize that they didn't care about what the ideas were. If Obama proposed it, they were against it, because they hated Obama (Black).

It took Obama 3 years of running up against a wall of blockheads before he figured out that they weren't going to move no matter how conservative he got. They would just move the goal posts further to the right.

His ideas in the State of the Union Address was approved by 91% of the people, and two thirds of the people think the rich (Mitt) should be taxed more. Obama is now fighting for the 99%.

Now hopefully he has come to his senses and learned from his failures. It always takes a while to learn a new job and he is finally getting it. It woould be a shame to get a new guy in that doesn't know the ropes. Especially since the other guys want to take us backwards 100 years.

Obama is good at the long game. He thinks of the future and now he has the conservatives where he wants them. Sequestration is going to cut the military $60 billion, The republicans got hurt fighting the extension of the payroll tax cut, and at the end of the year the Bush tax cuts will expire providing another $40 billion. Republicans can't block these things because they go into affect already. If they make a law that reverses that all he has to do is veto that law.

22 days ago: I believe you are right.
If Mr. Obama continues to show that he validates the people and their issues, I will most likely vote for him. I don't want to see any of those candidates become President. It is not good to change the Presidency, but it still remains to be seen. As far as him being black, it doesn't even phase me. I don't think twice about it. He is a smart man, but he has to show his leadership moving in the right direction. He has to show a road to recovery and action being taken now if he wants to get in again. There are many people that will back these candidates running for his job. God knows why.
I don't want to see him get midstream then make a complete turnabout and switch to compromising again and ignoring us. There was a period of time that the white house was being completely silent and not responding to the protests of the people that were dismayed and frustrated. This went on for a long while, and not until he started on his reelection campaign, did we hear his voice with anything positive to say. The Republicans burned themselves out by playing the rich card all the time. They were patronizing and condescending to the American public. I was very dismayed when people were writing the President letters and trying to get his attention about not being able to find work at a really low period in the economy, and he didn't utter a word to rescue us or give us hope. People were losing their homes to foreclosure and nothing was done until it was too late. It still is bad. People were frustrated and were looking for a means to provide for their families, and I remember his Speaker of the House,Pelosi, saying No to UE benefits. Now it is up for abolishment. If this happens, what will happen to our Country with no security for the people. If we were in the same boat again, will all these people wander around the streets becoming beggers, or just die. It was always some other issue that was more important. Then when a new bill was proposed to the House, no sooner was it brought up that Obama dismissed it, and they moved on to the next one. He didn't blink an eye. This is what I think about. You can't help but say what if it happens again because we are not out of the woods yet. People are having a hard time and nothing has really changed for them. They are cutting the military by 60 billion, but they are also sending our Guard to Afganistan.
22 days ago: Let's hope for the best for Mr. Obama to guide and lead us through these hard times. Maybe he has learned to do a better job with the experience he has had in Office.

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