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20 Million Gallons Of Biodiesil Per Acre Per Year!

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Producing Oil From Algae
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Altruist
Eugene, OR
There is a current Debate about whether to continue Ethanol subsidies to farmers. Farmers can produce about 30 gallons of ethanol per acre from corn. But this process is energy intensive and produces more CO2 than it saves. It also drives up the price of food, and uses good crop land.

Compare this technology with the process of producing oil from algae. It is possible to produce anywhere from 100,000 to 20 million gallons of oil from each acre of land, and the land can be waste land or contaminated land that is not good for anything else, and the water needed can be full of brine or other contaminants so we don't waste our precious drinking water. http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/r...

There is already a pilot plant that produces Initially, the pilot facility will produce 43,070 gallons of algae oil / biodiesel per annum using 6 modules of photo-bioreactors covering 84 square feet. If you scale that up it is possible to get 20 million gallons of biodiesel per acre per year. http://www.oilgae.com/club/users/MiaFran...

It is also possible to combine the oil/algae plants with sewage systems, with animal feed lots, and the exhaust from coal energy plants. The sewage produces the nutrients and the CO2 makes the algae grow faster.

We are finding that almost all of the traditional energy plants have severe negative impacts on the environment and are unsafe and unhealthy. We are running out of the easy oil, the clean burning coal, the fracking of oil and gas bearing rock threatens our scarce water supplies as do all of the other extractive industries, and the costs of all of these energy sources are rapidly increasing. Oil supports terrorism, Coal destroys mountaintops valleys and rivers. Nuclear power is dangerous for millions of years and endangers 1/8th of the nation.

Oil from algae has few negative impacts and the oil can be refined so our current cars and existing technologies can utilize this fuel, but it burns cleaner than conventional oil. http://www.oilgae.com/
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11 months ago: Altruist,

You said... "There is a current Debate about whether to continue Ethanol subsidies to farmers. Farmers can produce about 30 gallons of ethanol per acre from corn. But this process is energy intensive and produces more CO2 than it saves. It also drives up the price of food, and uses good crop land..."

I have looked for common ground with you... and I have found it! I agree that the negative impacts of producing fuel from conventional food sources outweigh the benefits. WE saw this in Guatemala fist hand... GOOD POST!
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
11 months ago: Every year politicians descend on Iowa, a must have state and sell out to the agribusiness by promising to support ethanol subsidies even if that makes no sense and even though subsidies run counter to their political philosophies.

John Huntsman at least has some dignity and is not willing to change his common sense positions for political expediency. He is just going to write off Iowa.
http://politisite.com/2011/06/04/2012-po...
BadCyborg
BadCyborg
San Antonio, TX
11 months ago: Dammit, Al, I find myself agreeing with you, too. Except that the diesel fuel your full sized plant will save - while being the equivalent yield from approximately 2 million barrels of crude per year - is only a tiny drop in a VERY big bucket. I'll explain.

According to Answers.com, in 2007 the U.S. consumed 64,323,336,000 US Gallons of "Distillate Fuel Oil" (which included both diesel and jet fuel). That works out to 176,228,318 U.S. gal/day or 7,342,846 U.S. gal/hr. At the 2007 rate, the U.S. would consume the ENTIRE YEAR'S PRODUCTION of diesel from such a plant in 22 minutes. That's right. The entire year's production from over 2,700 modules would be consumed in less time than it takes the pizza delivery guy to arrive. To meet the U.S. demand would require 3,216 of those 20m gal/year 1 acre installations. That's 5 SQUARE MILES of plants. Of course they would have to be sited somewhere that has a LOT of sunny days per year. (sounds like a great technology for Saudi Arabia for when their oil runs out). Some place that gets approx. 290 sunny days (80%) would need over SIX square miles devoted to algae oil production.

Plus, how much energy would such installations require? That would effectively offset some of the installation's production. That or additional land would need to be set aside for some sort of solar power installation to power the algae plant.

All this to conserve a self-renewing resource. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to. And, of course, algae diesel would produce just as much CO2 as petroleum-based diesel. Greenies and global warming moonbats will LOVE that.

I just cannot see why we should go to all the trouble/expense/headache.
11 months ago: 20 million gallons from an acre of land is fantasy land, according to the industry and its experts.

"Our scientific team believes 6,000 gal/acre/year is an achievable target," says the article Alturist is quoting.

Still this is better than not bad, this is real good for unused ponds. And it just makes sense, much better sense than using good farmland.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
11 months ago: BC A lot of work? 5 square miles is nothing! We just burned up 625 square miles in Arizona. We could set bioreacters there to provide shade for new trees. When you compare how much work it is to plow a field, fertilize it, irrigate it, spray it for bugs and weeds, and then harvest it, then process the corn all for 30 gallons. These bioreacters are relatively no work at all. The algae grows and multiplies like crazy. Yes it takes a little land but we have millions of square miles of desert in the SouthWest that could be utilized. A lot of this land is being leased by utility companies for solar generation of electricity. These bioreacters could be set up in the unused corners of every utility plant in the country. Heck I could have one in my back yard that could create 40,000 gallons of fuel and not have to use the sewer system.

Heck we could set one up on every corner lot that now has a gas station and use the roof surface as bioreacter area. Each station area might produce enough to supply the fuel they sell.

The bioreacters work during the day so photovoltaics would be ideal to power the units but batteries could be added to illuminate the reacters at night to double capacity.

The article is not about using unused ponds. It is about using bioreacters, that are currently creating 43,070 gallons of algae oil / biodiesel per annum using 6 modules of photo-bioreactors covering 84 square feet.

This is about using desert land that is alkaline so nothing will grow on it and using water from the Salton sea that has so much salt that few fish can survive, but algae love it.

It is about setting up these bioreacters at feed lots and sewage plants to process harmful sewage and convert that to fuel and good compost while protecting our waterways.

Or they can haul the the sewage solids to coal plants and set up the bioreacters on the plant site. It is a way to sequester CO2 from coal plants while cleaning up pollutants and creating fuel.
11 months ago: The objective of sound scientific research is to open up new doors of possibilities. It is important to remember this because cheap oil, cheap coal and cheap gas only exists because we are sitting on the stuff. It has been there long before humans entered the mix. And we are just extracting it all willy nilly without regard to its actual environmental cost. It has no monetary cost prior to being extracted because mother nature hasn't sent us a bill…yet. And like blind mice we are discounting that she ever will.

But the objective of sound scientific research is to open up new doors of possibilities and in so doing scientist have discovered that cheap, cheap, cheap does not really exist. It is an illusion. What we have accrued using oil, coal and gas is a debit deferred…with interest! The new doors that are being discovered if opened fully will have a cost. A cost that will without a doubt exceed what we have paid for fuel up to this point but that is because we are being charged for it up front.

And that my dear contenders will be our saving grace. Paying a debit up front may seem more expensive than paying for it over a long period of time with interest but believe you me as there are credit card companies that it is cheaper to pay the up front cost instead of the long term cost. One new technology will not answer our need for fuel but a combined effort will certainly provide an equitable solution but not if we can't agree to this basic consensus.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
11 months ago: The Republicans live in their own fact free world, but other nations, Japan, Germany, and now China, see that Nuclear is too dangerous, and that fossil fuels are becoming too expensive. In addition to the actual cost of oil and coal doubling in the last few years, these fuels also exact a terrible toll on our water supplies which are becoming scarce, and on health care.

These other nations are going to put the full force of their economies into becoming leaders in safe, clean, renewable energy, and unless we do the same, they will get all the green jobs, and we will be dependent on them for the energy of the future, just as we are now dependent on the Saudis for their oil.
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11 months ago: I have a nice old mercedes diesel that sits in the garage most of the year, every once and a while I look to see if there are stations around me that carry biodiesel. I live maybe 10 minutes outside philadelphia, and yet, there are maybe one or two stations that have it.
I think we need to expand availability, too.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
11 months ago: Everyone thought old used vegetable oil was neat to run in those old diesels, but you had to round up a restaurant to save it for you and you would have to add stuff to take the paraffin out. Now Oilgae will be more readily available.

The neat thing about oil from algae is that it can create Biocrude for $60 /barrel that can be run through a refinery to get gasoline, so it will run on any of the current cars out there.

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