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Will Tea Party Rhetoric Survive Reality?

Posted 6 months ago|27 comments|386 views
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Altruist
Eugene, OR
The Tea Partiers had a good ol time bashing Obama and the Democrats over the weekend. Queen Sarah was at her snarky best, mockingly asking our President’s supporters 'How's that Hopey-Changey Thing Working Out for Ya?' To be fair, everyone also bashed the Republicans for not being conservative enough.

The Tea party folk said they were against government, taxes, the deficit, health care reform, and just about everything else, but they weren’t too specific about what they were for. About the only things I gathered they were for is tax cuts, revolution, and more freedom. Great platform! Everyone should vote for that.

The problem is that it is easy to criticize but a lot harder to actually do the job. Palin makes a pretty good looking arm chair quarterback, but how fast can she run with shoulder pads on? If she keeps campaigning for the next two years she will learn her lines and she won’t have to look at the notes in the palm of her hand when she talks about what her core values are.

But if Palin does win the primary in 2012 it will be in a Republican Party that has been reformed so it is a lot more radical than it is now. Let’s see what that would look like.

The Research 2000 pollsters asked 2000 self described Republicans what they believed in. See: http://www.dailykos.com/statepoll/2010/1/31/US/437

This is what the poll found: 63% of Republicans believe Obama is a socialist, 42% believe he was not born in this country, 53% think Sarah Palin would make a better president, 31% think that Obama is a white hating racist and 39% think he should be impeached.

23% of Republicans believe their state should secede from the union, 51% think sex education should not be taught in school, but 77% think the book of Genesis should be used in science class to explain the creation of the world. 34% think that birth control pills are murder and therefore 31% think contraceptives should be outlawed, and 76% think abortion is murder. 67% think that the only way to get into heaven is to be a Christian.

These beliefs are pretty radical but the Tea Partiers think these guys are way too liberal. Maybe they can find today’s equivalent of Attila the Hun as a running mate for Sarah. Cheney might still be around!

Will the American people still believe that Obama is a socialist after seeing him for the hundredth time renouncing anything even remotely close to leftist policies, thereby showing his true pragmatic centrist colors? What happens after his policies have caused the economy to improve as it already is now? What happens if Congress finally passes a health care bill that people actually like, a jobs bill that actually helps, and an energy bill that creates millions of green jobs? How will Sarah’s folksy simplicity work for her then?
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6 months ago: Al.

You got alot of it correct, and some of it wrong.
We're not against Health Care Reform. We're against Obamaramajama, Pelosi, Reid socialist health care reform.

You're right about on the job training.

The Republicans mainly have become a bunch of D.C. Potomac fever, look at me, look at me, poop does not stink liberals who want to be loved by you. Like McCain and Spector.


I fit the poll mostly. Obama is a socialist, while it obviously makes no difference, I believe Obama was born in Indonesia, Palin would be a better leader, and why wouldn't Obama be a racist? Most other liberals I've come across are.

I wish East Tennessee would succeed from Tennessee. I'll choose to teach my children abstinence and not how to put a condom on a banana in class. (Ridiculous)

Creation and evolution are both correct.

Abortion stops a beating heart.

When I, a Christian, die and I appear at the pearly gates and I find Muhammad sitting there, I hope he lets me in.

Wake up Al. Obama is a socialist, a radical socialist with a chip on his shoulder intent up destroying our capitalistic society. Period. Obama is a centrist like all the glaciers in the world are melting because Buffy the Dragon died in a swamp and turned to oil. Utter hogwash.

Congress and Obama in their blind arrogance will make it very easier for Sarah to be elected.

Green jobs? You guys have no economic clue.

Respectfully.
6 months ago: Oh yea.

Sarah uses a commoner's teleprompter, her hand.
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
6 months ago: I hope it splitts the pubic-hair-icans in two and facilitate all the comming elections for the Dim-wit-icrats.
6 months ago: Siempre:

That will not happen this coming fall, but in the Presidential elections, it may happen.

If they nominate another RINO like McCain, it could very well happen.

By the way, you obviously are an Anita Hill fan.
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
6 months ago: Why would you say that?
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
6 months ago: As for the Rino comment. It just shows your teaparty colors. I'm actually glad that the fringe lunatic right wants to form their own party. I like the Republicans and the Wacko's were ruining the party. Maybe when the wackos leave to form the teaparty real conservatives like myself can join the Republican party.
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
6 months ago: By the way my Avatar picture is of Condi Rice, not Anita Hill!
Mike Licht
Mike Licht
Washington, DC
6 months ago: Sarah Palin's Nasville speech was the most significant oration of the 21st century.

See:

http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2010/02/09/tennessee-tea-party-sarahs-sassy-speech/
6 months ago: Siempre:

Anita Hill = Pubic Hair.... get it?

I love Condi Rice.

Siempre. Come on. You are no conservative. It is obvious. If you were, you would know the conservatives are not going to abandon the Repubes and form a 3rd party. We're going to smack the Rinos up side the head, and if that does not work, bid them adieu.

Remember, you are a conservative as much as I like drinking tea with my pinky extended with the Queen of England while we watch some danty boys jump around in tight tights singing to the joys of masturbation.

And a liberal calling me a wacko is a okay to me.
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
6 months ago: Oh, I get it! Ha, Ha! I’m a bit slow when it comes to peoples bedroom antics, pube or no pube.

I love Condi too.

You my dear red are not a conservative although you would like to fancy yourself one. Your ranting along with those of the extreme right are a blend of pseudo-nationalism, outright treason, covert racism and a hodgepodge of miscellaneous nonsense. I love you as much as I can a total stranger on the net dude so I feel it necessary to burst your bubble now before you hurt yourself. Didn’t mamma tell you not to run with sharp objects? Remember that a conservative is someone who approaches life from a conservative angle, in other words he is not a risk taker. Does that describe you? Be honest! I didn’t think so either.

Liberal is a label that a Wacko placed on me so you be the judge as to who is what and what is who!
6 months ago: Siempre:

I am somehow endeared to you also. Somehow.

I also believe we live in completely different universes, and I do not understand your's (and Al's). Complete foreign and nonsensical to me also.

If a pseudo-nationalists loves the country our founders created through the US Constitution, you've got me. If revolution to defeat tyranny is treasonous, so be it.

I've told you my belief that you and liberals are racists, because your arguments and points exclusively separate people by the color of their skin. (Yes, black people can be racists.)

You have me on the hodgepodge of miscellaneous nonsense.

My mommy wacked my bottom very often for, among many other things, running with sharp objects.

Once again, you have no clue what a conservative thinks. Conservatives take calculated risks all the time. The more risky, the higher the outcome. You liberals are incapable of understanding that concept.

Many of your thoughts and expressions are the thoughts and expressions of a liberal.

I bet, though, that you love singing the Battle Hymn of the Republic. Right?
The Cypress Gang
The Cypress Gang
Cypress, TX
6 months ago: Fair chance, I just drove home a short time ago. While sitting in my TRUCK I was approached by a non-threating person. Seems this guy was walking door to door handing out literature on an upcoming primary. Seems this guy wanted to get the message across and was handing out literature that stated his candidate is a Republican running against a RINO in congress. Seems that the RINO in congress has never seen our town. Seems that the guy walking door to door was the candidate. Will be a tough call...
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
6 months ago: Red I hope you are correct about Republicans not being against Health Care Reform. They will have a chance on Feb. 25th to actually roll up their sleeves and start work on fixing the problem or they can continue to obstruct any progress. It will be televised so we can see their true colors.
John McCain's daughter said that Tancredo's comments demonstrated racism in the Tea Party.See a good discussion about Palin and the Tea Party at: http://vodpod.com/watch/3020986-meghan-mccain-blasts-sarah-palin-and-tea-party-movement
Of course if McCain is considered a socialist his daughter will really be considered a Marxist.
I hope the right continues to purge all of the Rinos from the party so that Scott Brown who voted for Massachusetts universal health care and who believes in a woman's choice would be drummed out and go to the Democrats.
Siempre if you are a conservative, I think someone else hijacked your moniker after you went AWOL.
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
6 months ago: The point I’m making guys is simple. If I label you a conservative and that label sticks it means that you are a conservative. Right? Hogwash! You would be what you have always been before I gave you a stinkin label. An apple for example is an apple because it has always been known as an apple. It was never an orange. Was it?

Unfortunately there are ideas that have crept into our national political parties that have transformed them from what they originally stood for. The democrats for example have changed for the better. We are not plagued by the racist ideology of even 50 years ago. The same can’t be said of republicans though. Can it? No it can’t. Republicans say they stick to a credo that they always have had. But this fellas isn’t true. The republican party is no more of the industrious American entrepreneur than Jesus is for Buddha. It has become a corporate cover with an ulterior agenda.

Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
6 months ago: Yet if those Americans that espouse working class ethics say that they are in fact conservative then all of a sudden there is a huge fight over their right to claim that title. Why? Because those that have hijacked (and this is a real hijack Altruist.) the name conservative don’t want any competition or confusion as to what they really are. The megalithic corporation leaders and their halfwit minions are the real socialists. Why? Because they keep all the wealth and then distribute it to their workers as they see fit.

They hide behind things like patriotic nationalism when the reality is they are not nationalist nor patriotic. Ever notice that those that claim this are the first to hide their millions in offshore accounts and buy property in “safe havens for expats, have you ever noticed that? They throw the word founding fathers and constitution around as if they were actually there to vouch for our founding fathers love of America.

Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
6 months ago: Our founding fathers were all wealthy men of dare I say, blue blood decent who got fed up of being treated like commoners because they lived across the pond. The founding of America was more of a calculated risk that England would not risk their precious resources in trying to collect further taxes from little ole America when they had a whole mess of colonies elsewhere. In writing the document they did they had no bloody clue (to borrow a British expression) that it would have such a huge social impact.

America, fellas has evolved! Like it or not we are not a nation of wealthy British expats looking for a safe heaven. On the contrary we are the tired, huddled masses yearning to breath free. We are buffalo soldiers and Comanche’s. We are white and black. We are the product of over two hundred years of race, culture and religious mixing. The purity of the Anglo dream died in the swamps of the Florida everglades long, long ago.

So yeah! If I tell you that I am conservative because of my practices and beliefs then you better accept it! Not because I said so but because it has been so long before a bunch of crooks hijacked it for their own selfish greed!

God bless America!
6 months ago: Cypress:

Will it be a tough call after you look at your rino's voting record?

Siempre:

I agree with 1 thing you said. God Bless America.

Period.
6 months ago: And Al.

February 25 is just a show and an Obama fib. Watch and see.

The repubes better use this opportunity to show America they are not putting up with this socialist B.... S.....

Exclamation Point.

H%&* yes, they better get in Obamajamarama's way, or the republic could be lost. And they better show it on tv.

Obviously it has not been made clear to you that conservatives think and always have thought that MCCAIN SUCKS. EXCLAMATION POINT. again.

I repeat, you liberals are the only ones talking race.

Sarah Palin will do it just like Ronald Reagan did it. The question is whether Scott Brown wants to be left behind or join in.

(.......we'll see.)
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
6 months ago: Like I said RSG, you are no conservative, a charlatan and jester perhaps but no conservative. I’d dare repeat that you are really a liberal trying to make conservatives look bad. As a mater of fact that is what I’m leaning towards.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
6 months ago: Mike Licht,

...Sarah Palin's Nasville speech was the most significant oration of the 21st century...

ROFL, good link and I relish the thought of the Rebiblicans choosing the Palm Queen to be their Presidential Saviorette in 2012 - it would be absolute comedy gold.

Of course she has no chance of wining because there's a sizeable chunk of her religious right base that would never vote for a woman on the mere premise that Eve caused the downfall of mankind, and a result the Christian Bible requires women to shut up, be submissive to men, and push out babies.

Mitt Romney has a similar religious right issue because he's a Mormon and sizable chunks of the religious right think Mormonism is a false Christian cult.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
6 months ago: Good points Mark but I am afraid that the American public might go for Palin if the entire right wing propaganda machine and all of the corporations with their unlimited resources decide she is their figurehead. Don't matter how clueless the figure head is. Look at how they got Bush in there for 8 years! Palin is much prettier and is excellent at giving out those simplistic one liner solutions the right loves.
6 months ago: Mark:

Which Bible is that again?

Al.

You left some things out. Sarah will cut taxes thereby lowering the deficit. She'll kick the you know what out of the Iranian scumbags and assist their freedom loving people to overthrow the fascist regime in Tehran (unlike what the fool obamajamarama is doing), slap some sense in the Russians (instead of trying to promenade with them like the current idiot president) help the economy recover (finally) for creation of jobs..................all with simplistic one liners we simple minded people can understand.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
6 months ago: Sometimes Red I think Siempre is right and that you are actually a liberal showing people how ignorant and ill informed the right is. (no offense) If we attempted to support the people of Iran they would all go to the other side because they hate us for our 1952 overthrow of their country. Ditto trying to strongarm Russia. Negotiations and international agreements are the only way to get things done. Obama has done a terrific job of trying to undo the mess Bush left him in the economy and almost every other area.

Simplistic one liners are what the simple minded want, but simple solutions to complex problems invariably fail.

Siempre I see what you are saying about the labels not meaning anything any more. The right exploded the size of government and the debt while claiming to be fiscally conservative. While everyone claims that the country is moving to the right the opposite is actually happening. Look at the public's support for Peace. The public used to support Bush's wars, now 2/3rds want both wars to end.
The Cypress Gang
The Cypress Gang
Cypress, TX
6 months ago: Red? Am I reading this stuff wrong?

Siempre is a racist? Please tell me it isn't so.

Hey, Siempre. A quick one liner for you.

Smeller Feller.
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
6 months ago: Cute Cypress, but I’m not that close to you to smell anything that you may have farted out. Chances are by the type of talk you pander around here that you Fellar are the real Smeller but I get what your trying to say. You want me to stop pointing our racism among whites or to stop talking about the mixing of the races or about racial harmony because there is only so much a New South Southern Republican like yourself can take before you want to run off to the showers and wash of all that color talk from your person. Sorry C, My colors don’t bleed and neither do those of my flag, ‘matter-O-fact neither do they run! So I’m in it for the count, baby! Holler!
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
6 months ago: The funny thing is Altruist, that if people did take their labels more seriously then they would be more committed to getting things done. In other words you would see the elephants and donkeys working together to find compromise and higher ground, but as it stands they just don’t care about the left. They just want us out! Well? To heck with them because we don’t need them. There are plenty of conservative and moderate democrats to provide a balanced perspective. Like I said the democratic party isn’t that good ole boys club of yor. It is and has become the depository for free thinkers. Thank goodness!
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
6 months ago: I think the whole country would be better off with no political parties at all. Instead of following the party line why cant people just vote on the merits of the bill.

There were a whole bunch of Republicans that submitted good ideas, but then they were pressured by the party to vote against their own bills because it might have given Obama a slight edge if the bill passed. This is total madness!

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