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Why Is The World Attacking Christianity

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kikki
Today more then ever before it seems as Christianity is becoming a bad word.What is going on America?What has happened to our faith?

We are no longer permitted to say the Lords prayer in public schools,but please don't get mad if someone else gets their religious rights allowed.What is going on.

Sometimes I feel like saying am I the only one noticing that our world is not getting better but worse.Children are more disrespectful today,the family unit is falling apart.Who gets hurt by all this,we do,our children do.

Pornography is everywhere you look,computers,television.How is this so good for us,please someone tell me.Why do we not even stop to consider the lives who are ruined in making this garbage.The marriages destroyed,let alone the people who are addicted to watching it.What about the fact that sexual promiscuity leads to disease,that can eventually put you at higher risk for some cancers.Are we proud of herpes,gonorrhea,crabs,syphilis and what ever else there is?

Witchcraft,seems to be a growing art.You can learn easily how to cast spells,reach out to demons,explore the dead.Is it really as much fun as they try to portray it to be.

I see a world that without Christianity is going down the tubes.Yes I can agree Christians,we have failed in setting a good example,but the failure is people,not God.We always can repent and do what is right.

As Christians we are called to obey Jesus.That means to love our neighbors as ourselves.love is not boastful or unkind,it does not seek to destroy another but to lift up.Yet we as Christians,we cannot even love one another.I say this because it is true.If we do not pull our act together,stop living this divided faith,how are others to believe.Why we each have our own churches and our own ways..well its wrong.Christ was not divided! Yet we all are so caught up that we will not come under God's authority and do what is right.Then we wonder why we are under attack.If you do what is right the devil has no way to attack.

As Christians,we need to be in unity,as one.We need to obey God's teaching,not mens.We need to submit to the Lords authority.Obey,submit to Gods will.Why we are not even capable of discerning what we are doing as being right or wrong.

But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints;neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks.For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.Therefore do not be partakers with them For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth),. finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them

If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God.Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth.For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience, in which you yourselves once walked when you lived in them. But now you yourselves are to put off all these: anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy language out of your mouth. Do not lie to one another, since you have put off the old man with his deeds, and have put on the new man who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him,where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcised nor uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave nor free, but Christ is all and in all.

Therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, put on tender mercies, kindness, humility, meekness, long-suffering; bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if anyone has a complaint against another; even as Christ forgave you, so you also must do. But above all these things put on love, which is the bond of perfection. And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful.

Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.

Christianity is under attack because of our attitudes,our sinfulness,our disobedience.We need to repent.


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Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
24 months ago: The Christian Religion is vast and varied in its teachings, churches, and rituals. I dare say that there is not one Christian religion but a very many. That being said I don’t believe the world attacks Christians anymore than other religions attack each other as well. Islam has The Shiites and the Sunnis. India has The Hindus and the Buddhists. The Americas had the various tribes all warring for spiritual dominance and Christianity is no different.

I suspect that what you feel is what I like to call: the new car syndrome. When someone gets a new car they all of a sudden become aware of how many other people have that exact same car and of all the people that are out to harm their brand new car. Becoming a member of a new religion is similar. Ask Mark Byrn who rants and comments here all the time. He is a brand new atheist from my estimation and is all a glory about his “brand new discovery.” It is not that he is out to get Christians, well he might hate Adventists because I think he used to be one and now he feels that he has to vindicate himself from whatever way they wronged him

But it is the vanity of feeling special and unique that drives anyone from any group to isolate and alienate themselves from others in order to feel unique and special. You are special, don’t get me wrong and you are unique but not because of your religion eg. Christianity. You are special because G-d has deemed you so and that is good enough for me. And you are unique because no one else has your DNA.

Welcome to RantRave KiKi and please stay awhile and keep sharing your thoughts here. You will find there are those that agree with you and those that don’t but you will find it is a fun place to share your ideas.
kikki
kikki
24 months ago: Thank you for your comments.Actually what bothers me,is that we are thought of in the world,as all the other religions.For instance,your comment"The Christian Religion is vast and varied in its teachings, churches, and rituals. I dare say that there is not one Christian religion but a very many."
Our faith in God was to unite us as one,yet look at us,we are all divided,yet we all claim to believe in the same core faith,being Jesus dying for our sins and His Eventual return.
As Christians we should set an example of unity in the faith,we all know that it is easy to talk the talk,but we were called to walk the talk.
I never felt driven to a church,in my relationship with God,He came to me.

I appreciate your thoughts and thank you.Peace Be With You
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
24 months ago: This notion of the religious right crying persecution was well responded to in another topic called What if you and I:

http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/What-if-you-and-I.aspx

What you think of an attack (i.e. not reciting the Lord's prayer in public school) is actually a rightful correction of government to ensure the State does not impose or favor one religion. Since you're posting from Canada though, I won't vouch for your nation's laws on that subject - perhaps you can enlighten us.

To resist the imposition of your Christian faith on other people's children is quite the opposite of an attack - it's a response to an attack by Christians or anybody else who attempts to use the power of the State to proselytize children.

I will agree with you in the sense that Christians who seem to push the hardest in jamming their religious notions on other people are often the most hypocritical in not living up the high standards that their religion calls for.
kikki
kikki
24 months ago: "What you think of an attack (i.e. not reciting the Lord's prayer in public school) is actually a rightful correction of government to ensure the State does not impose or favor one religion."

I should of been more careful in my choice of words,for me as a Christian,I will say attack,as in the devil attacking.As Christians the rights we were use to we are losing.I should of chosen a different title to.

In saying this,I fault ourselves,for we have let go of Christs teaching in our own lives.We have no one to blame but ourselves.We need to walk the talk,not talk the talk.

Thank you for your comment markbyrn

Yes I understand what you are saying.As Christians it is not our job to impose our faith upon anyone,God is the one who calls us to faith,we do not need to do it for Him.




Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
24 months ago: I think that one of the reasons some people are becoming more vociferous in demanding the Constitution's protections from religion, is that we see what religious extremism has done in the Middle East. It is important that we remain a secular nation and those who demand that their faith determine government, are not that different than the Taliban and other Muslims declaring that the government uphold Sharia law.

Christianity is not the only force that regulates morality. All civilized nations have laws regulating behavior and morality, because good behavior benefits society and bad behavior damages it. The main question is, should that behavior be coerced by threat of eternal damnation, or should we do good because it is right and just?
kikki
kikki
24 months ago: Who determines what is right and just,and based on what?
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
24 months ago: Right and Just!

It is part of our nature as humans to ask why. Everyone does it. From earliest infancy babies will “steel” a toy from a sibling leaving him in tears. Those lessons determine for us what is wrong and what is right. There are many such examples. The bible is replete with them but so are many other non Christian books. And life examples as well to remind us that just because we have the capability to do evil it doesn’t mean we should do it. Who determines right and just? The person who dares to ask why. That is where it begins.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
24 months ago: A good man is hard to conquer or entrap.

The bad man is easily enticed into doing bad things.

If you want to control and conquer a people or nation, you must take their goodness away.

Religions keep us good and away from the bad.

To take his soul and to dirty it, is the first step into making him seek the dark side.

Right man, there are those who control the media and control our once great country.

You are shown only the news that they want you to see.

The boob tube is a tool to place their agenda in your minds. A stupid person, is only stupid when he turns away from real knowledge and the real truth.

You are being controlled and you don't even know it.

For them to succeed, your religion must die.

READ AND BE FREE
http://freedom-school.com/law/prison_treatise.shtml

http://freedom-school.com/keating/how-a-prisoner-funds-america.pdf

http://freedom-school.com/admiralty/how-to-beat-criminal-charges-in-admiralty-courts.pdf

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kikki
kikki
24 months ago: Siempre, what is evil to one man is not to another,so it sounds good,but try and make it work.I do not think it can.

For instance what is pornography? Many have different views on this.
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
24 months ago: Content Removed by Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
24 months ago: Evil is a slow insidious poison. It starts slowly and then eventually spreads its toxins all over the place incapacitating the body for any useful purpose. Pornography is a good example Kiki because it seems innocuous at first, since it just displays sex. But what else does it do? It hinders natural human relationships by providing a controlled substitute. It allows people to explore their violent fantasies allowing them to nurture antisocial behavior.

It places women in demeaning positions and situations. I could go on for a very long time about the follies of pornography and never mention religion once. The fact is that morality is a human trait not a religious dictum and Altruist is correct in saying that we should do good for the sake of doing good not out of a fear for going to hell. Think about what he said. Altruist is basically declaring that his conscience is clear. That is a good thing. It means he is closer to the kingdom then most believers and isn’t that what Jesus said would happen? That the first would be last and the last first?
kikki
kikki
24 months ago: Siempre

My point is that not everyone will share the same views.So who and how will they decide what is right or wrong?
I do not do what is right out of fear of hell,that is nonsense. Everyone sins,even Christians,Jesus came that we have forgiveness of sins,not fear.
Morality as far as I can see is far from a human trait,just look around you,even your opinion on pornography shows that.
Most non Christians I know do not think anything wrong about pornography.In fact those who do stand against it,are usually those of faith.
So I agree,yes we should do good for the sake of doing good.
Someone has to base his morals on something,even if it is just his own opinion.So say a man with "morals" is a leader and he makes the rules.Do you not think others will say,oh sure I agree he is right.
24 months ago: Christians should know that pornography is wrong even if they choose to indulge in it. It's an exploitation and debasement of a beautiful gift that God has given us.

The problem is that everyone makes up their own right and wrong. That's dilemma. One person sees the taking of life in the womb as a choice and another sees it as the murder of an innocent life. There is no universal agreement.

Men and women do what is right in their own eyes, but the problem is not all eyes are focused on the same things.
kikki
kikki
24 months ago: well put Huey,
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
24 months ago: ...I could go on for a very long time about the follies of pornography and never mention religion once...

That statement is correct only in the sense that that certain non-religious ideologies view pornography as exploitative or non-productive. A good example of this would be the former Soviet Union where possessing pornography was a criminal offense and during the Stalinist period, importation of pornography was a capital offense.

Of course the Soviet Union also adapted the atheistic philosophy of Karl Marx in which religion was regarded as the opiate of the people. and was treated in no less regard than pornography. Personally I would heartily agree that religion is an opiate and is exponentially more dangerous than any perceived danger of pornography, however the use of the state to repress either pornography or religion is a cure worse than the "disease" as it snuffs out human expression and individual freedom.

While the Soviet Union collapsed from it's own weight of repression, we still have nations that heavily regulate and/or suppress religion and pornography, notably Islamic States. If you wish to believe that pornography is an evil that shouldn't be tolerated by your Church members, that's all well and good, but when I observe the religious right or the ideological far left campaigning to universally suppress it using the power of the State, that's a far more insidious and demonstrable evil as history and present day realities prove.
24 months ago: If someone wants to "grease weaser" that's up to them.

But it is bothersome when you can't go to a newsstand with your kids without getting an eyeful of that garbage. When you can't turn on the TV and flip channels without getting peppered with smut something has to change.

I'm not for censorship, but I am for decency and common sense.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
24 months ago: Huey, did you change your avatar - you look very distinguished now.

I'm glad you say you're not for censorship but what methods of censorship do you propose to ensure kids don't get an eyeful at that newsstand (as though the Playboy mags already encased in plastic to ensure you can't thumb through them), and if your kids are able to watch soft porn on TV, maybe you need to cancel the HBO, Cinemax, Playboy TV subscriptions or otherwise use the channel locks.

One's inability to control their children's TV viewing habits should NOT become the determinant for what adults get to watch on TV.

Of course, when it comes to the religious right, it's not really about what their children watch - in their zeal to impose their religious morals, they want to control what other adults watch, and children are the proverbial pawns in the social-conservative political war.
24 months ago: Fortunately I don't have those problems with my kids.

Each parent has to choose how to monitor their kids viewing habits. We don't have any of the subscription channels and I've not found the need to use channel blocks. It's just annoying when your turning the dial (old school colloquialism) and near porn jumps out at you. But it's not the end of the world.

They're normal boys and we talk about sex and male female relationships. Raising them to be healthy and not prudes.

Each person has too choose their own moral standards to live by. Unfortunately some peoples standards include some pretty foul stuff.

24 months ago: MB - Thanks for the avatar comment. I always pick carefully. Frederick Douglas is one of my heroes.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
24 months ago: ...Frederick Douglas is one of my heroes...

Excellent choice.

"We have sold men to build churches, women sold to support the gospel, and babes sold to purchase Bibles for the poor heathen! all for the glory of God and the good of souls! The slave auctioneer's bell and the Church-going bell chime in with each other, and the bitter cries of the heart-broken slaves are drowned in the religious shouts of his pious master. Revivals of religion and revivals in slave trade go hand in hand---Frederick Douglas, Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglas, An American Slave

http://bit.ly/9HuVbo

"Slave owners believed that that they were right in enslaving blacks because they had Biblical support to do so. Using the stories of the Bible, pro-slavery advocates, like Virginia State State Representative Thomas Dew argued that slavery was a much better substitute for death, for the punishment of being black. The story of Noah, and his son Ham, who condemned him to be a "servant" to his brothers, served as their main evidence that slavery was a fine, even merciful, substitute for death. They justified slavery because of their "paternalism" and their evangelism of their slaves. Many thought this was incredibly hypocritical, like Fredrick Douglas and that the slave owners were ignoring their own actions while embracing Christian values."..Ties of the South: Honor, Religion and Slavery
, Kathryn Schramm

http://bit.ly/bFtDMp
24 months ago: You see why I like him.

He didn't have a problem with Christ, he had a problem with so-called Christians that would take the teachings of the scriptures and would pervert them and use them to their own evil ends.

He was fearless in his opposition to American hypocrisy, specifically that of the church.

My type of man.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
24 months ago: Good points Huey and Mark. The love of money is the root of all evil. Jesus knew this and said that it is harder for a rich man to get into heaven than it is for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle. This was one of his core teachings and yet we now have christian prosperity preachers that say that if you have faith in Jesus he will make you rich and pay off that overdue mortgage.
Why is it that most of the most powerful Christians are also rich. The Christian coalition in Congress are all rich, they all oppose taxes on the rich to help the poor, they all oppose any government programs for helping the poor, needy or sick. And yet Jesus urged everyone to rid themselves of their possessions and give them to the poor.
Christianity doesn't moderate or control evil behavior because these Christians have a higher God they worship. They worship Mammon, and their temple is Wall Street.

24 months ago: Idolatry has ruined many a man and woman.

Mark Chapter 10 tells of the rich, young ruler. His problem wasn’t that the possessions were bad. They were good. It wasn’t that he possessed them. God had given them. It was that he was bound by them, attached to them, blinded to the fact that the most desirable, life-giving treasure of all, was offering Him a yet more abundant life.

His problem was that he was foolish. He was not wise enough to recognize an opportunity of a lifetime.
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
24 months ago: Lets get back to morality being a human responsibility instead of a religious prerogative. Moral laws come out of common sense this is why they have universal appeal. Human freedoms also have universal apeal but they require a very open minded ruling class the American experiment is unique in history and that is why our freedoms as protected by the bill of rights are so precious but ones freedoms and ones moral obligations should never have to face up against each other in competition. I reject the notion that to be an open minded liberal person one has to embrace and worship at the feet of sexual degradation. Men watch pornography for control. One does not need to be a Christian to see this.
kikki
kikki
24 months ago: You certainly have strong opinions,which I admire,are you related to That tv evangelist...hmmm.Pat????

LOL just joking
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
24 months ago: Funny! I happen to think that the ills that plague Christians are the same ones that plague the rest of humanity as well. The good news given by the son of G-d two thousand years ago has been clothed in a garb of rituals and superstitions. It need not be complicated Kiki. G-d loves us. He has forgiven us and accepted us as we are. He can fix us and all he needs from us is willingness to be fixed. The details are less relevant as the message that this Kingdom to which the son of G-d belongs, this kingdom of overcoming evil with good is available right now to all! The morality issues are not proprietary dictums of the Christian Church. Unbelievers of all kinds can relate to them since childhood. We all know what is and isn’t wrong. But as Huey said some choose to turn a blind eye to it for personal reasons but they still know it. I don’t agree with Mark that All Christians want to do is have governments enforce our religion. Some Politically minded conservatives want this but not all Christians. Some of us firmly believe in religious liberty and we fight for it and on behalf of it.
24 months ago: "If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated Me first."
Rudi Stettner
Rudi Stettner
 Moderator
23 months ago: I feel that there is a body of beliefs that I would classify as secular humanism. There are a lot of attacks on Christianity that are done to promote the primacy of secular humanism. When parents in Massachusetts are not allowed to excuse their kids from sex education classes in which homosexuality is promoted, that is a case of onbe religious group imposing its will on another. Although I am not a part of the Christian majority, I do share with them common concerns, as well as the feeling that a hostile alien value system dominates our media and our education. In the industrialised, democratic nations, Christianity is exposed to ridicule. In the Muslim as well as some of the communist world, it is exposed to physical persecution. Although I do not share your biblical canon, I uphold your the rights of Christians everywhere. The articles I have written for the civil rights of Christians bear witness to this

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