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Who will Rebrand the GOP?

Posted 37 months ago|15 comments|677 views
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Billyberoo
Cedar Park, TX
Well in order to answer that question, we need to look at who is talking about this re-branding of the GOP, and what type of re-branding they are considering.

I see this as the far left saying the GOP needs a new identity. When I see people like Chris Matthews, Ed Shultze, Rachel Maddow, Juan Rivera, Geraldo Rivera, Allan Colmes, adamantly stating the GOP needs I new identity, I get skeptical. Really, why would these people want to give helpful advice to the opposition party. I smell a rat.

Next, let's see how they suggest the GOP should re-brand; it is almost unanimous that we become more of a big tent party. "Big tent" is the new word for diverse, and by diverse they mean left leaning. This can't happen. The GOP tried this when they nominated John McCain. That nomination got us a loss, and an emergence of his daughter, Meghan, who is also a proponent of the lets get rid of our principles campaign with in the party.

Third, why re-brand? Well, as our re-branding supports believe, to be more "inclusive". That would be sacrificing principles to appeal to more people, but more people to our left. I think that liberals want this because if the GOP moves left, they will get to move farther left. Since they will be keeping the same distance from the GOP, people will not notice the shift.

I may be wrong in my observations, but this political shift has happened more times then a care to discuss. Just look at the progression of the GOP:
1.)Conservatism under Reagan, where the free market ruled, the economy flourished, companies like Apple, Microsoft and Intel pave the way leading into the 21st century;
2.)George H. W. Bush, a more economically relaxed for a conservatism. A little more government intervention into the economy, resulting in a recession, and a Republican who raised taxes to try to get out of it.
3.)Bill Clinton is in office, massive growth of government is possible, especially with Hillary Care, however the Nation checks down on the Clinton's by electing the 1st Republican Congress in 40 years. This check down actually forces a shutdown of the federal government, but this is portrayed in the media as mean, conservatism starts to get weakened and changed to;
4.)"Compassionate conservatism," principled conservatives are voted out, Newt Gingrich, Dick Armey among others and are replaced by more Moderate "Compassionate Conservatives." this leads to the election of;
5.)George W. Bush, compassionate (inclusive) conservatism, racks up a $1 trillion deficit, lost control in House, lost Presidential election, and possibly Senate in 2009.

This is a losing strategy. If the GOP is to re-brand let's re-brand to the right. Let's pick up he Jefferson/Madison mantra that less government is better government. More libertarian issues, like the 2nd Amendment and the 10th Amendment. Let's be the party of strict Constructionists. The party of individual, not collective liberty. The party of equal opportunity, not egalitarianism. The party that sees that the Constitution limits the power of the Central Government, and gives unlimited power to the people. The party of the Judiciary that interprets law, not as judge Sotomayor states "...where policy is made."

This can be done by parading out economists of the Austrian School like Lew Rockwell, Thomas DiLorenzo, and others of the Ludwig von Mises Institute. People like Newt Gingrich who can articulate an issue pretty well, and who have seen the in workings of our government and Ron Paul, who presently is a house member and can start using it as a type of bully pulpit.

The GOP can rise again, but not by being more inclusive of the left, but by including more of those to the right, and reverting back to the Jeffersonian philosophy of government, "that government is best which governs least."
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37 months ago: Re-brand? No. It's time to come home to Jesus.

The problem is that too many old conservative democracts joined years ago and they are just coming to surface. Nope. Don't buy it. Get conservative or get gone.

End of story.
37 months ago: Before you rail on me about the 'come home to Jesus' statement.

It is an expression.

Could be 'come home to mama'.

The point is... am I expected to follow grown adults to the john and wipe their butts for them. They need to get their own hands dirty.
Billyberoo
Billyberoo
Cedar Park, TX
37 months ago: So who are those fiscal Conservatives in the ranks of the Democrats?

Big auto??? Controlled by the big AUTO WORKERS union, would not have used Big Auto in this response.

Big Corn, wouldn't you say they lobbied with the Enviro Fascists to knock out Big Oil with Ethanol. Another baad example.

Big Banks, well they got money from everybody.

Well Big Beef, well a lot of that comes from the great Republic of Texas, where we tend to be conservative.

But siempre my dear friend, the younger members of this party are trying to grab the torch, be the thing is we are more conservative than any of the "dinosaur" leaders we have now.

I just hope they include more of the Libertarian views, not conservative Democrat views.

Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories.
Thomas Jefferson

Billyberoo
Billyberoo
Cedar Park, TX
37 months ago: Siempre

You are missing the point. First quit getting so defensive with liberal Democrat. Fact is Environmental lobbies were shoting for corn based ethanol. (those subsidies came from a Repub Pres, and a Dem Congress. That is a FACT. That also drove the price od corn through the roof. Did you notice cereal, rice, and flour prices were pretty high last year or are you that young that you don't by groceries yet.

And I am abdicating a coup of the GOP, not by Conservative Mercantalists that you are claiming I support, but by free market limited government conservatives, maybe even libertarians.

You keep saying its not about party with you, but you always seem to put down one side, when the other is just as guilty.
The problem, I think, for you is the other side did not control the presidency for the past 8 years. But they used the same protectionist, special interest, subsidies to their advantage 1991 - 1999. And they will do it again this time.

By the way those farm subsidies you talk about for corn (among others) date back to FDR.

Both sides pervert our economy into a merchantalist system. And subsidizing "Green" is just as bad for our economy as subsidizing coal or oil. No subsidies that's what I support.

If we go green go green I'm all for it. NO SUBSIDIES. NO SUBSIDIES FOR ANY ENERGY. Incentives yes, subsidies NO.
Coloranter Raver
Coloranter Raver
Denver, CO
37 months ago: Billy, before I even get started, I'd like to remind your very short term memory of something. Members of the GOP itself were the first to suggest re-branding, not the likes of Rachel Maddow.

Now comes the fun...

Your post, ironically, stands as proof, if there weren't enough before, for why re-branding of the party is not only necessary but essential for its future. The fact that you not only don't see this but argue rhetorically against it adds even more evidence.

For people like myself who grew up raised in the heart of the Republican Party – my grandmother was the party chair for a western state – and who took my own course as a Democrat for two years of college before I had a brilliant sociology professor who demonstrated effectively the failings of both parties setting me off on a new Independent course scoring two votes for Reagan and two for Clinton whereby I follow, not the party dogma so embedded in the minds of many on both sides, but my own views after much research and work to ferret out the truth both sides hide. I can no longer comprehend the strategy of a party that has become associated with hate, fear and war-mongering, incongruous values (anti-abortion/pro-death penalty to name just one), and kowtowing to the fundamentalists in our nation who, candidly, are no less dangerous (as Timothy McVeigh proved) than those from Saudi Arabia.

You have successfully justified, via your methodical reasoning, the final death knell of the GOP.
Billyberoo
Billyberoo
Cedar Park, TX
37 months ago: If it be dead, so be it. Our values, and principles don not need to have a party lable GOP.

Both parties, are war mongerers, both use fear, it just so happens that one side has 80% of the media as a public relations firm. That has been developed for about 100 years.

Raver, how come you mentioned MC Veigh, and yet you fail to mention left wing terrorists, like Bill Ares, groups like PETA, who routinley destroy restaurants just because they serve veal or foi gras, or Daniel Andreas, who is wanted for two bombings in California.

Oh wait, they only bring this people up on the Fox News network, so they cant't criminals.
Billyberoo
Billyberoo
Cedar Park, TX
37 months ago: You may call yourself an indy. Whatever that means, I would love to do that, but the real world calls for 2 parties, I wash we had more. Sure we do, but the 2 entrenched parties, who actually alienate, most voters in this country keep other parties off the ballot. Therefore, I grew a spine, and now work as hard as I can to get my party to conform to my views. And if that means renaming it, or destroying the old and replacing with the new that is o.k.

Also, it was the News media, and pundits that started saying the GOP needs to Re-brand. This so called "listening tour" where Jeb, Mit and Eric actuallly do most of the talking was a response to what the media has asked the GOP to do. Those fools took the bait. As my man TJ once said:

"Do not bite at the bait of pleasure, till you know there is no hook beneath it." Thomas Jefferson

They did not check for the hook, now they are and will continue to be eaten for dinner.
GrizzleBeans
GrizzleBeans
Fenton, MI
37 months ago: That's funny, Coloranter Raven

I bet your registration card says Liberal not Independent You support killing baby's but saving serial killers? The truth is out there Raven and I hope someday you find it, just please turn off MSNBC
Coloranter Raver
Coloranter Raver
Denver, CO
36 months ago: GrizzleBeans, I am not pro abortion, I am pro the government and anyone else getting involved in the decision. I honestly believe few women would have abortions if there were more support in this nation rather than the hate stirred up by ignorance and religious zealots.

As for the death penalty, a huge number of people are put to death that are innocent as Governor George Ryan of Illinois found causing him to suspend the use of the death penalty in IL indefinitely, and no one has brought it back. Second, putting a person to death costs tax payers far more than life in prison. Why should tax payers have to pay for this? Third the death sentence has never been shown to be an effective deterrent, so why use it when the wrong people have been convicted time and again, when it cost the tax payers so much, and when doesn't deter people from committing crimes?
Coloranter Raver
Coloranter Raver
Denver, CO
36 months ago: Wow, alert the University of Illinois-Chicago, they have a terrorist on their faculty. Sorry Billy, you've just lost what tiny bit of respect I've been trying to hold for you. I don't see why you don't go to FoxNation.com and post there. You'd find people just like you with nothing better to do but perpetuate baloney.
36 months ago: BTW Ranter. Welcome back! We have been missing you.
Dang these hicks and the backward thinking!!!!
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36 months ago: Glad to see you are cutting it down to grunt level so we can understand. Don't hold back next time. I would have used something other than baloney though, but your still learning. I give it a A-.
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Billyberoo
Billyberoo
Cedar Park, TX
36 months ago: Ranter here is a quote:

''Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon...Even though I didn't actually bomb the Pentagon -- we bombed it, in the sense that Weathermen organized it and claimed it.''

That's not exactly what I would expect my college professor to write in his book. But certain faculty members at the University of Illinois-Chicago have written that in there book. Hint: initials Bill Ayers

Billyberoo
Billyberoo
Cedar Park, TX
36 months ago: BTW Ranter, they "reported" and I "decided" he was and still is a terrorist. Unlike that other network where they "omit so you stay ignorant" you know the "Marxist Socialist News Network."
Billyberoo
Billyberoo
Cedar Park, TX
36 months ago: Sorry, pretty tired, the Marxist, Socialist News Broadcasting Company.

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