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What if People Actually Paid Their Way?

Posted 37 months ago|5 comments|783 views
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elguapo
Littleton, CO
I love the Denver Light Rail system, it was one of the best improvements to Denver that I have experienced since being away for almost 10 years. The city of Denver did an excellent job of installing the Light Rail trains and track, and widening the I-25 corridor so that it didn't take away from the crowded Interstate through downtown. I am thankful that I wasn't living here while the project was underway, it makes the results far more enjoyable when I didn't know any of the inconveniences.

I love taking the train downtown for a game or to hit up the city, and the stops are very convenient and freeing to not have to worry about parking or driving in the city, and the costs of parking involved. The fare is fair enough, I think it cost me $7 round trip last Friday from my south suburbs beginnings, less than it would have cost to park for a Rockies game.

I have to wonder how much it would actually cost if everyone paid their way? I have only once seen a ticketing agent on the train, though I have always paid my way. There is an unspoken understanding that if you were caught riding without a ticket the fines are so high that it would make up for all of the times you have rode without paying. I'd have to believe that ticket enforcement agents would be a more effective route.

The ticketers on the trains (for lack of a better term) going into New York are an iconic memory for me of visiting that great city. When you saw them with their vests and pins, and those punchers that they worked in expert fashion over the tickets you had an almost magical feeling taking you back in time (it was like seeing the ticketer on "The Polar Express," only less computer graphically creepy). Maybe it helps that I was a tourist taking the train in, but either way I have a fond memory even before crawling out of Penn Station under Madison Square Gardens.

That type of magic wouldn't happen in Denver, but the memory of riding into the city on the light rail and having your ticket checked the first time would likely remind you to always purchase a ticket. It is sad that people would ride without paying their way, it shouldn't take enforcers for people to simply pay their way. But this isn't the reality, and it seems the honest rider once again is paying for everyone. I know that hiring more ticketing agents would cost more, but the cost should balance out by everyone paying or being fined greatly. I would think that it could even keep the prices from constantly rising, and allow the transportation service to actually work on expanding some trains to better destinations, such as Boulder or DIA. I don't work in the city so my trips are few, and I'm sure most of the revenue is from businesses and monthly passes anyway, but I have seen how crowded a Friday night train can be, and the suspicion that most of that train rode the lottery of not being checked, and rode for free because of it.

On a final note, I propose that maybe they should loop "Ticket To Ride" as a subconcious way to make people feel guilty. Or maybe not, that could get old real fast!
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elguapo
elguapo
Littleton, CO
37 months ago: They are really nice, they did a great job on them. Now they just need to expand destinations to a few key spots, and this city will be connected effectively and fashionably!
Dudley
Dudley
Australia
37 months ago: Yes, it would be wonderful if people actually paid their way. But why stop at Denver's light rail? It would be a very good idea if people paid their way on roads. The existing fuel tax used on all roads barely pays for Federal and State Highways. All local roads are paid for out of your sales, house and land taxes, and any other taxes they can find for you to pay. Just suppose that people paid for roads according to the distance they drove, paid monthly or even weekly as you top up with fuel. An excellent way to cut congestion if it gets those off who do not wish to pay, ensures that journeys are only made when needed. And the upserge in passengers on light rail and buses would justify the expansion of the system that "Elguapo" desires.
37 months ago: Siempre Solo:

(I've been away from Rant/Rave for a few days trying to earn a living. While away, I've notice my country swirling down a toilet, and I am unhappy about it.)

What about Amtrack? Isn't it bankrupt and sucking money out of taxpayers?

Dudley:
Communists use government power to control the populace.
Coloranter Raver
Coloranter Raver
Denver, CO
37 months ago: ElGuapo, I hadn't realized how new you are to our fair region. The politics behind this whole light rail system from its very beginning, in my opinion, would make a great mini-series. The entire FasTracks system, which was passed with full bi-partisan support is the nation's largest transit system project and the largest ever undertaken to be completed in a 25-year time span encompassing 6 new rail lines and 1 new BRT line – all tolled over 122 miles of light rail, 57 transit stations, 21,000 park-n-ride spaces, and the most comprehensive metro system ever created on what seems like a whim as opposed to the CTA and Metra system of Chicago that was grown carefully and methodically over 150 years.

I thank you for your post on many levels. I am in full agreement with you. I actually spent a half day in March counting the number of times the machines were used to purchase tickets vs the number of people that boarded the train downtown by the Courthouse and found that only 1 in 25 bought a ticket. Am I supposed to believe that all 24 of the others had monthly passes? Some probably did, but all 24 of them? I think a lot of people ride for free. Like you, I always buy a ticket. But, I've never been asked to show it. How many times do you ride and not have to show it in this economy before you think, "Why pay?" There must be a better way to ensure that people are paying!
Rudi Stettner
Rudi Stettner
 Moderator
36 months ago: Create more jobs checking tickets. collect more money. Sounds like a win win proposition to me

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