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Wake up America

Posted 28 months ago|32 comments|580 views
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ActiveInChange
Lafayette, LA
What the hell is wrong with America? Have people gotten so complacent and ignorant that they are willing to relinquish all control and surrender their well being to the state? Remember a time when you were responsible for yourself and your family? Remember a time when people took responsibility for their own actions? Well….I don’t. This country has been in a downward spiral for longer than I have been alive. We are so far gone that people are actually accepting this corrupt, thieving, lying, murderous, tyrannical, corporate fascist state, as a leader. Some of you will call me unpatriotic or un-American for the things I am about to say. However, as George Orwell said, " In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." And to those who wish to speak negatively about my dissent, I will tell you that opposing corruption in government is the highest obligation of a patriot.

I would like to begin with why our founding fathers and the original colonists risked torture and death. They did so risk their lives to bring forth the most highly evolved form of government in the history of man, and still is to date, a Constitutional Republic. A constitutional republic is a state where the head of state and other officials are elected as representatives of the people, and must govern according to existing constitutional law that limits the government's power over citizens. That, my friends, was our form of government. That was what this country was founded upon. So many people are brainwashed with this idea of democracy. So many people think our forefathers gave their lives to fight for democracy.

Democracy is rule by the people, or mob rule, meaning 51 percent of the population tells the other 49 percent what they have to do. This is great for the 51 percent of people, but it is slavery for the other 49 percent. Democracy is the government of sheep, the government of easily swayed masses of idiots. What better form of government for tyrants than democracy. In this "Democracy" the tyrants can legally take away your freedom; they only have to convince 51 percent of the sheep out there to be successful at oppressing you. Democracy is the mask on the face of imperialism and oppression.

Our forefathers realized the error of democracy and therefore came up with a list of inalienable rights to which every human being was born with, i.e. the Bill of Rights. These were the only laws and the states granted power to a small federal government in order to protect these rights. This is what is called a Constitutional Republic. However, due to complacency, distraction, lack of concern, and mental degradation, these inalienable rights are no longer recognized as inalienable, they are mere obstacles on a path to tyranny.

We have gotten so caught up trying to tell the other side (republican or democrat) what to do, that we have lost sight of what we are really supposed to be doing and that is practicing and protecting freedom. First off there is no difference between republicans and democrats except for the fact that the left is for war if with big government, and the right is for big government if with war. Both sides of this two party dictatorship accomplish the same thing; expand government, perpetuate war, and attack liberties. How can the right be Pro Life and Pro war at the same time, do you not see the contradiction? And how can the left be Pro Choice and Pro ban on tobacco, ban on trans fat, ban on (insert personal choice here) do you not see the contradiction here either? The sooner you wake up and realize that George Bush and Barrack Obama are both pro war, pro Wall Street,puppets of Imperialist elites, the sooner we can take back our lives from the oppressive control of this Corpratocracy.

We are at a crisis of consciousness in this country and a revolution is at hand. This revolution will not be a violent civil war or attack on government buildings but instead a peaceful awakening of the individual to this slavery. After all none are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. However the second amendment is there for a reason, as John F. Kennedy once said, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." That is why there is gun control, because the state must fear its citizens that are not reliant and dependent upon the false security of the state. The state fearing its citizens is how government should work properly, but corruption, thievery, and murder are not proper. This is why all great fascist states disarmed their populations before they were absolutely powerful, Mao, Adolf, Joseph, Fidel, and Kim, to name a few, all anti-gun. To quote Ben Franklin, "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch, Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." This is why I protect the right to bear arms, not for some backwoods bullying reason, but because with guns we are citizens of this country and without them we are subjects to this country.

So now we are pitted against each other by different means of mainstream media arguing over irrelevant issues. The media in this country is doing exactly what they are supposed to do, divide, in order for us to be conquered. Debates today are nothing more than one individual spouting off his party’s talking points against the other individual spouting off his party’s rebuttals. Infatuation with the irrelevant is the doorway to tyranny. The masses being kept in a perpetual state of fear and ridicule allows those whom control government to clinch the iron fist even tighter.

I think of myself as a caring person who would do no harm to anyone unless said person is going to harm me. That being said, state controlled health care should not even be an issue. Approximately half of the nation is for it so they will be pretty happy if they get it. But what does that say and do about the other half? Forget about the entire half of the nation and narrow it down to one person that is opposed. If this one person does not want to support other people’s health care but is mandated to, that is not only fascist, but oppression and theft! Also health care is a service and requires someone to have a job in that service in order to provide said service. Therefore if someone says that health care is their right, that is saying that they have a right to that person's service or labor. There is something else with the same definition and when one declares a "right" to another's labor, we call this slavery.

I am not going any deeper into health care than this because that would be an entire paper on its own. Still, I will offer my solution and this will apply to all mandatory taxes that individuals are forced to pay in order to finance the wants of others. If you are the one that wants it, then you are the one that should pay it. Using government to bully the minority into financing your ideological beliefs is tyranny. Liberty is not bought and freedom is not financed and an individual’s right to be secure in his own belongings is exactly that. Any impediment of self security is tyranny.

It is all too unfortunate that we as a country are forced by our government to finance things that we do not want to. Taxation without representation was what the revolutionary war was fought over and we are so far passed that stage it is shameful. The IRS uses militant means of collecting the government’s money, if you do not pay, you go to jail. This is not freedom. Compulsory support of a war, or the police state, or private jets for senators is NOT LIBERTY! We are financing our own slavery. We are willingly accepting serfdom as reality and praising it as it happens.

As I sit here and watch my 6 month old son sleep, I can hardly do anything but contemplate his future. Will his future be a free one, a true free one? Not these lies that we live now, will he live a true lack of restriction where he can do or say or believe whatever he wishes as long as he causes no one harm? Or will his future be unwelcoming? Will it be a government run Stasi police state, where kids rat out there grandparents for talking about the way things used to be? Will we correct our direction and get off this path of despotism and totalitarian rule? To paraphrase Fredrick Douglas, will the limits of these tyrants be proscribed by the endurance of the oppressed? For the future of my son and for the future of all mankind, I surely do hope so.
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markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
28 months ago: Active,

You'd made an excellent speech writer - grandiose political rhetoric with the requisite tugging at the heart strings but where you provided a specific example is most revealing.

...If this one person does not want to support other people’s health care but is mandated to, that is not only fascist, but oppression and theft!...

Not only full of hyperbole but oblivious to the fact that we live in a representative democracy and pay for all matter of government spending without a 100% plebiscite; there would be no government if a 100% plebiscite was required.

Of course, the prospect of no government is undoubtedly some kind of anarcho-capitalist libertarian fantasy. By any chance, is your avatar the symbol for that movement?
ActiveInChange
ActiveInChange
Lafayette, LA
28 months ago: Markbyrn, funny you should say full of hyperbole, my philosophical friends sometimes refer to me as "the hyperbolist" However, in all fairness, this rant is entitled "Wake up America," it is meant to "tug at the heart strings" of people in order to wake them up. It is not titled, "A list of 9 essential steps to repair our current situation."

While there is not a 100% plebiscite, if you would look at the constitution we do live in a representative democracy as you have stated. However 435 congressmen is hardly representative. The legislation passed in 1911 limiting the House to 435 members was detrimental in the "representative" part of representative democracy. Article 1 section 3 of the constitution allows for "one (representative) for every thirty thousand" citizens.

This limit of 435 has allowed the federal government to completely detach itself from the rest of society, creating a disinterested and complacent populace which casts votes mainly on name recognition. We should have over 10,000 representatives in this country, all maintaining current and active communication with their constituents. Instead we have an oligarchical facade of representation completely susceptible to corruption and severely detached from their constituencies.

How exactly is being a Constitutionalist associated with fantasy? Are you implying that our founders were somehow delusional in there vision for a true limited government? My avatar is simply an expression of solidarity, of my opinion of self governing philosophies.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
28 months ago: ...Article 1 section 3 of the constitution allows for "one (representative) for every thirty thousand" citizens...

Tsk, tsk., you misquoted it. It states, "The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative."

Notice the "shall not exceed" part? It doesn't say one for every thirty thousand otherwise the law that capped the House of Reps at 435 would be unconstitutional. BTW, I believe it was the Reapportionment Act of 1929 that imposed the cap and of course the Repubican Party rammed it though as part of their favored tactic of gerrymandering.

However, in response to your implied suggestion of ballooning the House of Representatives to 10,000, I will counter with James Madison's warning in federalist #58:

"The people can never err more than in supposing that by multiplying their representatives beyond a certain limit, they strengthen the barrier against the government of a few. Experience will forever admonish them that, on the contrary, after securing a sufficient number for the purposes of safety, of local information, and of diffusive sympathy with the whole society, they will counteract their own views by every addition to their representatives. The countenance of the government may become more democratic, but the soul that animates it will be more oligarchic. The machine will be enlarged, but the fewer, and often the more secret, will be the springs by which its motions are directed."
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
28 months ago: But my grasshopper friend, you have jumped from your original point of equating fascism and theft to one person not supporting it to the ratio of representation in the House of Representatives is not sufficient.

Even if the original ratio was mandated and we had 10,000 Congress persons (I shudder to think of it), government spending bills will still be approved on a majority vote.

So are you changing your original position (If this one person does not want to support other people’s health care but is mandated to, that is not only fascist, but oppression and theft!even avoid that one person crying fascism and theft) to simply we need a 1 to 30,000 ratio in the House and you'll be happy?
ActiveInChange
ActiveInChange
Lafayette, LA
28 months ago: I am not jumping around on anything markbyrn, I only used the size of the HOR to illustrate the fact that we are NOT a representative democracy anymore in my interpretation of the Constitution. I did not misquote the constitution, I said it “allows for” not mandates for. The reason article 1 says that it "shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand" is so that there would be no over-representation, or falsely increased bureaucracy, which is what I believe James Madison is talking about in federalist #58 because he says “beyond a certain limit” ie 1/30k. The people had an interest in and wanted representation, so there was a cap at 1 per 30k so no one shall try for 1 per 15k for example. Providing an example to iterate one’s point is not jumping around. Resorting to talking head tactics by saying I “jumped” around or “flip flopped” like a “grasshopper” is a less than courteous attempt to discredit me. Name calling and ridicule are devices of ignorance.

You seem like a rationale thinker, however, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt. I do not know if a “1 to 30,000 ratio in the House” would hinder the despots, it is pure speculation, because it didn’t happen. I do think that a larger number of elected officials would be superior in terms of accountability, because of constituents, instead of the appointed, unelected, unaccountable, immense, and endless bureaucratic succubus that we now call government.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
28 months ago: Dear ActiveInCgarge:

Thank you for posting your article here. I am supposing you are new here?

I am so glad to see that we have similar views, about our corporate Federal, State and City governments.

About the tyranny, the police state,the treason of this Government.

You will find here some posters, that don't believe what we will try to tell them, about the truth of the state of this nation.

Pay them no mind, some of them are so thick that you will be wasting your time.

To give you an example of what I am talking about, there is a post that is so large, it has more than 10,000 replies to convince or talk with just one person. Terryeo and his terryeobots.

He is a Pro-Scientology guy. They go on and on trying to reason with him.

But even though I asked them to stop that long snake of a tread. They are hooked. I am glad that they in their own way oppose the cult of greed and sin. But what I wished that they would do, is tell their beliefs about Scientology to the world, instead of to just one guy.

So, you see that a one way mind is useless to deal with.

Just keep on posting this kind of truth, and ignore them if they get insulting.

About me, I am a long time critic of Scientology and also a secured party creditor. I hope you know what that means.

As such, I try to educate the masses about the USA, INC. and the cult of greed and sin.

I have other interest in health issues and I am also a healer.

If you ever want to talk , just let me know. Read my posts and I will for sure read yours.

RESPECTFULLY.

THE RONBOT HUNTER
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markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
28 months ago: Remember in the classic Kung Fu TV show when Master Kan affectionately called Kwai Chang Caine grasshopper? My intent was not to insult but to gently needle by pointing out the logical fallacy of moving the bar. It seems to me that you changed the argument from 100% plebiscite requirement to the ratio of the House of Representatives is insufficient.

If I was going to engage in ad hominem, I'd go all out with the heavy duty juvenile artillery or maybe I'd use your ad hominem: "What the hell is wrong with America? Have people gotten so complacent and ignorant.."

So if I'm ignorant by your default claim, isn't it somewhat hypocritial to lecture me about courtesy and name calling - Pot, Kettle?

...I do think that a larger number of elected officials would be superior in terms of accountability, because of constituents, instead of the appointed, unelected, unaccountable, immense, and endless bureaucratic succubus that we now call government...

Do you know how many appointed, unelected, unaccountable, etc. staffers work for each Congress Person? That's some immense government enlargement you're proposing but at the same time, I'm not entirely opposed to the idea of additional representatives as long as we take note of Madison's warning.

My primary concern was your point about one person disagreeing.
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
28 months ago: America is a work in progress. America is us. We are America. If there is something that you don’t like about America then you are America enough to do your part to change it. If enough Americans feel the way you do then those changes will happen quickly. If not enough do then you have to convince people. If we will not be convinced then it might take you longer to convince people and changes may not happen but remember this you are part of America and America is a work in progress!
ActiveInChange
ActiveInChange
Lafayette, LA
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ActiveInChange
ActiveInChange
Lafayette, LA
28 months ago: Thanks, RonBot Hunter

Agreed Siempre.

markbyn, Did I call you ignorant?

The staffers for congress people have zero effect over my life and again they would not exist if we did not have this drastic division between the ruling class and the middle class brought upon us through various attacks on the Constitution. However appointees such as Cass Sunstein have a vast amount of effect over my life and the lives of others. And when people like him get appointed and start calling for the abolishment of the 1st and 2nd amendment and are NOT elected, this makes me choose fists for my avatars(to put it metaphorically.)

The “single person” that I am talking about is not some random person disagreeing with an elected official’s individual policy. It is someone who disagrees with a certain policy in place and is forced, basically at gun point, to finance said policy. This policy could be the “wants” of others, or war, or income tax, interest to the Federal Reserve, etc. That is tyranny my friend.

It seems as if we are arguing over semantics and that my original point has been agreed upon by both of us through elaboration, I hope.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
28 months ago: Active,

I realize Glenn Beck was all over Cass Sunstein but I don't think his position gives him the authority to outlaw abolish the 1st and 2nd amendment.

But if you get wind of him putting out an edict like that, let me know because I'm all about keeping 1st and 2nd Amendment, especially the 2nd one.
ActiveInChange
ActiveInChange
Lafayette, LA
28 months ago: I definitely do not listen to Glen Beck, well maybe to get a neocon perspective every once in a while. Glen Beck is loyal opposition. He sways with the popular disagreement, but in the long run, he pushes an establishment position.

I know Sustein doesn't have the authority to get rid of the second amendment. But if the current establishment has their way he will soon be wearing a black robe, at which point we will have two very anti 2nd amendment justices, that WILL have the authority to abolish amendments.

http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/people/s/cass_r_sunstein/index.html

28 months ago: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bovard
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch, Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."

I like that quote, too bad Ben didn’t say it……

Interesting ideas. Time is not my friend today/night, you guys will have to carry the load without me.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
28 months ago: Interesting ideas AIC. It sounds like you oppose our government being controlled by the corporations, and your way to stop this is by threatening armed insurrection?
You are right about the justices stealing our liberty but it is not the loss of the 2nd amendment that took our freedom, it was the decision that corporations are people and that their bribes (campaign contributions) are protected as first amendment rights.
Our founding fathers meant for our representative democracy to decide matters with a simple majority, and just because you as a member of the 49% in opposition doesn't mean that you can overthrow the government. The Republicans are now subverting the intent of the founders by requiring that any decision be based on a super majority. It insures that nothing can get done and that the lone hold outs have to be bribed to get anything done. Ruling by consensus would be impossible. Here in California we can see where that will take the country (We are 20 billion in debt).
We now have the technology to go from a representative democracy to a full democracy, but as you said, a pure democracy would increase the tyranny of the masses. How about a meritocracy? Make people prove that they have a basic understanding of the problem before they can vote on it.

ActiveInChange
ActiveInChange
Lafayette, LA
28 months ago: Altruist, did you read what I wrote? I said "This revolution will not be a violent civil war or attack on government buildings but instead a peaceful awakening of the individual to this slavery." Never once did I threaten "armed insurrection"

Please understand what my article is about before misquoting me. Also, I never once said that I am in a 49% bracket and therefore feel shorted. I said the founders of this country built a model that was resistant to mob rule and that we are slowly disassembling the model.

I am not one of these right wing establishment supporters that is pissed off because republicans are not in power right now. I was up in arms over what Bush was doing too. I actually found solace in what Obama ran upon. However I quickly saw the talking points for what they were and they were lies. He has broken damn near every single promise he made. He was going to end wars, instead he increased them more than the Bush administration ever did. He was going to stop these signing statements, instead two weeks into his term he made one. He realized the unconstitutionality of the patriot act and was going to dismantle it, instead he expanded it. He talks about how mainstreet is suffering yet continues this corporate welfare to wallstreet, all the while increasing the power granted to the federal reserve.

I am upset with the situation in this country and my angst stems from many years back. I never said that we need to overthrow the government, but we do, however, need to stop the government from overthrowing us.

THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
28 months ago: Altruist

You claimed this:

"it was the decision that corporations are people and that their bribes (campaign contributions) are protected as first amendment rights".

Do you remember that I have been telling you guys,that all the corporate governments and courts view you and me as a "CORPORATION'?

Why do you only believe it in the reverse, and not as it really is?

We are their corporate or Federal subjects or economic or commercial slaves, to pay the International Bankers their loan payments, since 1933.

ActiveInChange is only trying to give you the facts of USA, Inc.

He is Not here so you can abuse him, so just learn or refuse to learn, as you have always done, and go on about your business.

We are here to give and obtain knowledge, we are here to educate the public, and to help the public when they ask us for advice.

We are NOT supposed to be here to fight, argue, insult, or abuse other.

Many regulars here use this website as their boxing ring. When they should be paying a psychiatrist or analysis somewhere else.

Please let us regulars here, act with kindness and respect for each other.

A post is just that, it is someone's opinion or statement for others to view.

Replies should not be used to tear that person apart or to ridicule their statements.

Read a post and either accept its educational value and then let it go emotionally and move on.

So, replies should inform or show the public, that we are intelligent. Instead of making you/us look like a bunch of animals.

This website gives us the right to post, but not to use it as arena of idiots.

I hope that our replies will from now on, be informative and educational, in stead of confrontational and destructive.

THE RONBOT HUNTER
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28 months ago: TRBH, You wrote these words, now follow the link below and see how poorly you abide by them.

"Please let us regulars here, act with kindness and respect for each other.

A post is just that, it is someone's opinion or statement for others to view.

Replies should not be used to tear that person apart or to ridicule their statements."

http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/Not-Every-Rant-Can-Be-Saved.aspx

The "kettle" should not be calling the "pot" "black".
ActiveInChange
ActiveInChange
Lafayette, LA
28 months ago: sixholdens, thank you for the enlightenment. I have been quoting that as Franklin for a while now. I am usually the guy that points out falsehoods in quotes like that. In fact the last one I proved wrong was a Ben Franklin quote about beer. LOL.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
28 months ago: AIC said: "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch, Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." This is why I protect the right to bear arms, not for some backwoods bullying reason, but because with guns we are citizens of this country and without them we are subjects to this country."
Although you said you were non violent, by saying that if you are armed you will not let the government devour you (to use the wolf analogy)you are saying that if you don't like what the government is doing you can defend yourself against the government which is essentially overthrowing the government by armed insurrection.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
28 months ago: You seem to be laying a lot of the faults on Obama's shoulders, but you have to realize that the power of the president to make or break laws is very limited. That is Congresses job. Yes Obama did make a lot of promises. He promised to shut down Guantanamo and Congress is making that difficult. He promised us health care reform and the Republicans are making that difficult.He promised to get us out of Iraq and we are pulling out and for the first time last month we had no casualties in Iraq. He did expand the forces in Afghanistan, but only half of what his military commanders wanted, and he set a withdrawal date. He got a lot of resistance to that from the Right. He did promise more openness and transparency and although that is going slower than I want he did open the logs to the white house visitors, he did "find" the millions of missing emails that Cheney refused to surrender, and he reverse the policy on the freedom of information act. Under Bush everything was denied unless specifically approved by the WH, now everything is approved unless specifically denied by the WH. He is waging war against Wall street and is now trying to tax the obscene profits of the banks.
I understand your anger at the slowness of progress but our American system is designed to resist change. It is especially the large corporations that are thwarting the will of the people, because a thousand corporations giving a million dollars each has more power than ten million individuals giving a hundred dollars each. Also the major corporations who own the media are using their propaganda to stoke the anger of the people and direct that anger at the people who are trying to fix the problems and away from themselves, the ones who cause the problems.
ActiveInChange
ActiveInChange
Lafayette, LA
28 months ago: Altruist, come on buddy, you cannot believe that protecting yourself from tyranny is the same as taking over the government by "armed insurrection." I can defend my points with logic and reason there is no need to build a straw man.

Ok so I will give you the benefit of the doubt on how hard it is to change something. So what about the things he promised NOT TO DO?
Obama said no lobbyists and appoints all lobbyists, and that was HIS decision.
* William Corr, lobbyist for Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids,
* Patrick Gaspard, lobbyist for Service Employees International Union.
* David Hayes, lobby San Diego Gas & Electric.
* Eric Holder, lobbyist for bankrupt Global Crossing telecommications.
* Ron Klain, lobbyist for Asbestos Resolution, U.S. Airways, Airborne Express and drug-maker ImClone.
* William Lynn, lobbyist for Raytheon.
* Cecilia Munoz, lobbyist for National Council of La Raza
* Mark Patterson, lobbyist for Goldman Sachs.
* Mona Sutphen, lobbyist for Angliss International.
* Michael Strautmanis, lobbied for the American Association of Justice.
* Tom Vilsack, lobbyist for NEA.
Not to mention the Secretary of Treasury, former Goldman Sachs CEO, Geithner who Obama is still vouching for even though it is almost proven that he is involved in conspiracy to defraud the taxpayers through TARP.
ActiveInChange
ActiveInChange
Lafayette, LA
28 months ago: Obama is a puppet, just like Bush and Clinton both were. They are whores for their pimps on wall street and for the Global Industrial war machine.

I am not laying any faults on Obama's shoulders. I am just using him as an example to illustrate how the two party paradigm actually works. The other supposedly opposing party will say whatever the people want to hear in order to gain power. And once they are in power, it is business as usual, all the while people still keep putting faith in demagogues and slick tongues and ignoring people that would implement real change. I'll give you one on each side of the isle, Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul.. Look at their voting records, they would be candidates that would incite change in the government. However neither one of them are corruptible and therefore will never have the chance because it takes corrupt MSM to push a candidate down the collective throats of the populace in order to gain votes and these guys get teased by MSM.

THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
28 months ago: Who and what is Sixholdens?

An analysis of his posts proves these following things about his mentality and character.

Contrary to his defensive claims he is:
Pro-criminal, pro-cults, pro-contaminated and mutated foods, pro-arsenic and other poisons in our foods.

His posts are not constructive, not meant to educate, but to be a destructive complaining influence of other posts.

He complains too much about others and can't take criticism. He is extremely sensitive and childish.

He wants everyone to prove their claims, but will never prove his.

He demands you to comply with his wishes and demands, and cries about our refusal to do as he wants. But when I ask him to do what he demands of others, he refuses to comply.

He is a one way street, only his demands are worth anything. The demands of others he can't stand.

What is he here for? If his posts are not educational, constructive or instructive, then the only answer is he has no purpose in life but to be a nuisance and a stalker in Rant/Rave.

When he responses to the posts of others, he is not constructive, educational or helpful in his responses. But the opposite.
He is a stalker in this website, and will childishly follow other people around just to ruin their posts.

He will do all he can to ruin the post/s of others, just to get attention.

THIS IS MEANT AS AN ANSWER TO HIS CONSTANT STALKING OF MY POSTS.

THE RONBOT HUNTER
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markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
28 months ago: ...They are whores for their pimps on wall street and for the Global Industrial war machine...

There you go again with the bombastic hyperbole!
SALLY ATLANTA
SALLY ATLANTA
Cumming, GA
28 months ago: Is the issue really DEMOCRACY? Or the lack of Democracy because of how we have allowed it to become bastardized by special interests, lobbyists, PACs, and huge corporations that are "too big to fail" but too immoral (not amoral) to support? I would rather have Democracy than any other form of government. I just wish we could have true campaign reform -- and get the huge corporations and their lobbyists out of Washington.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
28 months ago: Ron I thought you just told everyone not to attack one another why go after Six?

AIC I agree with you on the lobbyists. I agree with Sally that the entire political system has become too bastardized and compromised by special interests. The political system has become totally dysfunctional. The only way to bring back power to the people is to get money from special interests out of politics, The only way to do that is to overturn the supreme court decision giving corporations personhood with 1st ammendment rights. Campaign reform is not possible without that.

Many of us had high hopes for Obama but alas he is a political animal, and a pragmatist. If you can't change the system you have to work within it.

The point I have been trying to make in many posts is that Obama is not a liberal or a socialist. He is working with the existing corporate structure within the system. This places him in the center of the political field, where the majority of the people are. The right demonizes him as a socialist but he is not, he is working for the good of the majority. I voted for Kucinich and like him a lot. I have a few problems with Paul but admire him for his honesty.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
28 months ago: Altruist:

Because Sixholdens has refused to let his hurt go, and has stalked me from post to post.

I have asked him to leave me alone but he refuses. SO HERE GOES:

Who and what is Sixholdens?

An analysis of his posts proves these following things about his mentality and character.

Contrary to his defensive claims, he actually has proven himself to be:
Pro-criminal, pro-cults, pro-contaminated and mutated foods, pro-arsenic and other poisons in our foods, etc.

His posts are not constructive, not meant to educate, but to be a destructive complaining influence of other posts.

He complains too much about others and can't take criticism. He is extremely sensitive and childish.

He wants everyone to prove their claims, but will never prove his. He demands you to comply with his wishes and demands, and cries about our refusal to do as he wants. But when I ask him to do what he demands of others, he refuses to comply.

He is a one way street, only his demands are worth anything. he can't see what he does, but only what you do to him. The demands of others he can't stand.

What is he here for? If his posts are not educational, constructive or instructive, then the only answer is he has no purpose in life, but to be a nuisance and a stalker in Rant/Rave.
When he responses to the posts of others, he is not constructive, educational or helpful in his responses. But the opposite.

He is a stalker in this website, and will childishly follow other people around just to ruin their posts and get attention to his hurts.

He can't let go and move on, constantly stalking and complaining.

THIS IS MEANT AS AN ANSWER TO HIS STALKING MY POSTS.

THE RONBOT HUNTER
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ActiveInChange
ActiveInChange
Lafayette, LA
28 months ago: @ markbyrn, I will have to defend myself on this one bro. Calling Clinton, Bush, and Obama whores for their pimps on Wall Street and the Global Industrial War machine is hardly hyperbole. In fact it is quite accurate.

Definition of a whore: One who sells one's abilities, talent, or name for an unworthy purpose.

Definition of a Pimp: One who solicits for a prostitute or brothel and lives off the earnings

I will give you one example for each of them.

Clinton: Largely funded in 1992 by banking PACs (aka pimps) under the impression that Clinton would repeal the Glass Steagall Act. And in 1999 he did making unethical and illegal banking (banks could now be any combination of an investment bank, a commercial bank, and/or an insurance company)legal. Turning bill clinton into a Wallstreet Whore.

Bush: Largely financed by energy companies (aka pimps), ran on a policy of a non-interventionist government. However, 6 months prior to 9/11 a pentagon document was uncovered entitled, "Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield contracts," which includes a map of potential areas for exploration. Halliburton, DynCorp and other facets to the Global industrial war complex made trillions off of their little prostitute in Washington.

Obama: This will be short: His top campaign contributors were banking PACs. Before he was even president he was pushing for the “Banker Bailout.” He has continued to appoint bankers into powerful positions and he has continued to push for legislation giving bankers more power over taxpayers. He is the worst whore of them all too because he pushes for corporate welfare while giving “pro mainstreet” speeches at the same time. A two-faced whore is the worst.
ActiveInChange
ActiveInChange
Lafayette, LA
28 months ago:
I will admit that sometimes I engage the hyperbole, however that statement was not, and it was definitely not “bombastic .” Again, no need to insult.

By the way I am not the only person to draw this analogy, in fact, a great democratic congressman said it as well.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/howie-klein/alan-grayson-calls-a-whor_b_335541.html
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
28 months ago: ...Again, no need to insult...

Don't get me wrong - employing a bit of bombast for dramatic effect and cage rattling is not necessarily a bad thing, and I've been know to do it myself.

As for "the great Congressman" you mentioned, even those that support him have affectionately described him as the Dems bombastic pit-bull Alan Grayson - google it. BTW, the "the great Congressman" supported the pork filled stimulus package, the 2009-2010 Defense Appropriations bill, the 2009-2010 Department of Homeland Security Appropriations bill, and when plugging the health care bill, bombastically stated “I apologize to the dead and their families that we haven't voted sooner to end this holocaust in America." - he later apologized for that comparison.

...PACs (aka pimps)...

A political action committee is private group, regardless of size, organized to elect political candidates by raising funds and making donations to politicos who they think will do their bidding. That includes groups like VoteVets.org, the Sierra Club, National Rifle Association, Transport Workers Union, of course the banking, pharmaceutical, and big corporate PACs. So is any group or individual that gives money to a politico a pimp or it just banking PACs, or just PACs you philosophically disagree with like Grayson does?

As just a general observation, your post impressed me as one of those lofty rail against the government and we need to swallow the elephant whole soapbox speeches. Of course we'd love to have all our politicians be incorruptible & altruistic, and for Americans to live in Constitutional purity and a national debt of zero.

Since we can't swallow the elephant whole, what's your detailed piece by piece fix plan? If for example, the first fix is to have 10,000 members in the House of Representatives, I'm a pragmatist and don't that as a practical goal - it's a fringe non-starter issue.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
28 months ago: TRH,

I think you should follow your own advice with respect to posts and instead of making these public accusations of stalking, take it up privately with the forum moderators.

28 months ago: My apologies to all out there who feel I have been stalking them because I read and post responses to many of the articles on the Rant/Rave web site.

If you feel that my postings are stalking you, please feel free to use the direct messaging function under my profile and I will send you a more personal apology, if you aren't afraid to turn that function on.

My apologies also to the owners of this web site for the disruption of the normal flow of ideas by those who refuse to prove their claims against me and who continue to post comments against me in multiple articles. Since I do not like the effects deleting my account would cause, nor feel that I should delete my account or cease posting my thoughts and opinions of the articles contained here on Rant/Rave, I will reserve that action until the webmaster, requests it.

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