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WHY SCIENTOLOGISTS DON'T TALK WITH SPs?

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THE RONBOT HUNTER

THE EVIDENCE OF WHY RONBOT SCIENTOLOGISTS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK WITH AN SP?

There is one fact Ronbots won't admit - it is that they are forbidden, restricted, and receive an ethics reprimand, if they talk with, associate with, communicate with any ex-scientologists that have exposed the cult for what it truly is -- a scam, fraud and a lie. They are also forbidden to read anti-cult info--their dream-world can only have one side of the truth. But they receive ethics points if they attack, beat-up, hit, harm, destroy or sue anyone that opposes the cult. They are only allowed communication online where there is NO interpersonal direct contact. When they do get near you--it is to ask you for your sins. Because to them only evil sinners oppose them.

If a Ronbot wants to help they will supply him with his own website, but he has a box placed on his computer that forbids him access to any anti-cult websites, and if he wants to look up some key-words or look up SPs like me, he is restricted and will be treated as a Potential Trouble Source-- "PTS".

Now as a "PTS" he is kept from his paid courses or auditing, but made to pay for more and then sent to ethics for lie detector tests. He progress up the bridge is stopped even when he was forced to pay for more courses/auditing, because he is now contaminated with the other side's truth. A Ronbot is only allowed to hear just the cult's teachings and can't be allowed to have a mind of his own.

Having no mind of his own, with no permission to speak to SPs like me, his brain-washing is intensified even more. He is trained to hate and destroy and even kill SPs. His insanity of hatred to his fellow man is colored by his training-- even his own parents, children, relatives and friends are treated as monsters and enemies if they speak bad about the cult. His is told to break away from them if he gets sick within 72 hours of being near them.

He is never told the truth about physiological reactions, he is never told that the mind has a circuit breaker that triggers a reaction to warn you to avoid stress or danger (ancient survival mechanism) and that even a saint can insult you and trigger a survival reaction. He is never told that it is not the person, but his own somatic physiological reactions that brings out a symptom from your body when you have either nutrition deficiencies, toxins, poisons or over acidity.

Just like the physiological reactions of misunderstood words brings out many reactions, so does the mind react under stress or danger. But the clue is in the hundreds of different symptoms triggered by stress. But he is made to think that it is the person that made him sick. So the person was labeled an SP to keep him from studying physiological reactions and being able to think for himself.

"So long as a physiological phenomenon remains the knowledge of a few and is denied to the many it can be utilized to control the many." LRH (from Journal of Scientology Issue 4-G from Oct. 1952)

The cult does not want you to know that ALL Scientology is based only upon physiological reactions and the law of cause and effect. LRH claimed to have invented these natural laws of God and used these natural laws to create a false "religion".

All Ronbots live in their brain-washed and policy controlled minds and can't see or believe anything that will tip-over his sanity. His hatred for us builds and builds as if we were Hitler's own children.

He will even attack his own Mother if the ethics office lists her as an SP. This is done by convincing him that she made him sick and therefore she an evil SP --Fair Game policy is then applied to his Mother and destroyed, harmed etc..

Remember another fact - an SP is not an evil being -- but one that turned his back on a science fiction story.

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30 months ago: Skew and slant, bias and bumble, accurate not, bits inna pot.

Yes, there is information about a subject within the philosophy of Scientology. Yes, one of those subjects is what you can do for yourself if you run into someone like Saddam or Hitler. Basically, the information says you are not likely to flourish and prosper when you connect your future with an Suppressive Person.

And if you don't believe this is accurate, feel free to list all the people in Saddam's Iraq who flourished and prospered. His sons did -- and they were hated by the Iraqi people. But make your own list, it is your future and not some suppressive person's future so you'll have to do it for yourself.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
30 months ago: Terryeo-
As a veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom, I believe that I may speak for all of us when I say we're proud to have fought for your freedom to say idiotic, half-baked and prejudiced things.
On another note, answer this very simple what do you propose should be done (no weasel words, a straight answer if you can) with the 169,447,385 current SP's (by Hubbard's calculation)?
30 months ago: Hey Mark, Thank you for your service.

Two and a half percent of Earth's population works out to be some kind of large number, could well be that 169,447,385 people. I propose to educate myself and others. That's it.

I don't propose to do anything about suppressive people, in the way this article suggests. I don't propose they be eradicate or deprived of life, liberty or pursuit of happiness. Nor did Ron Hubbard. But I know, you, or someone, will snip out a piece of text from about 1954 that says something like: If these people (suppressive persons) were taken out of society, then society would be a much happier place.

I can dig it. If (we all did that) . . Then (we would all be much happier). But that isn't going to happen, of course. Still, the point Mr. Hubbard was making has good sense because without the Saddam(s) we would have less confusion and less war.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
30 months ago: Terryeo- you would say that, in your opinion, scientology proposes to do nothing more than "educate" those that are described as "suppressive persons"?
30 months ago: I consider myself somewhat of a scientolgy expert nowadays...having seen the South Park episode and watched the Tom Cruise crazy eyed gibberish video.
I cannot fathom why any person with somewhat reasonable intelligence would buy into it.
I can kinda see why they mght fall for in it in the beginning but after a bit of time can't people see that they are not getting what was promised?
This might be an indelicate question but if scientolgy worked why is Jett Travolta dead? Why didn't his father order him back to his body? Why haven't miracles happened? Why hasn't Scientology stopped the decline of civilization in the over 50 years they have been here? Especially curious if they have the numbers of follows they claim to have, why has society as a whole shown no impact? After traditional science aquired the "tech" for space flight, it did not take that long to get to the moon once we made our minds up to go there. So why hasn't the Scientology "tech" made any significant changes to our daily lives? Where is the great breakthroughs from scientologists?
Just askin.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
30 months ago: A physiological reaction is a normal function of a living body. It can be explained simply as the way the body affects the mind or how the mind affects the body.
It is the actions of cause and effect within the body and mind itself. It is how the body and mind interact, and how it manifests all actions from any stimuli.

It is the physiology (functions and activities of life or of living matter) of the procedures, methods, systems, processes or reactions of the human body and mind. It is the basis of life and how we work internally.
It is how the body manifests (shows or brings out) symptoms from real illnesses, it is how the body warns us thru symptoms of impending illnesses. It is how symptoms can be re-stimulated or brought out and it is how symptoms mysteriously appear many days after enormous stress or suppression and how and why they are misunderstood and mistaken for real illnesses or blamed on other causes or blamed on innocent persons by evil cults whose sole motives for existence is power and greed.

THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
30 months ago: The secretly evil Godless cult has intentionally and illegally copyrighted God’s laws -- But humanity owned these physiological reactions even before Cro-Magnon man walked the earth.

My task is to expose these physiological secrets to the whole world, so that every mother and/or father can use them to heal and educate their families.

There is NOTHING holly or saintly, or spiritual, heavenly or religious about physiological reactions, it is just how we were made by God, it is our gifts from God, it belonged to us before it was robbed and hidden from us by the Godless Cult called "$cientology".

There are many amazing discoveries of physiological reactions that are still hidden from us, locked away from public eyes, in the vaults of this evil Godless Cult -- that can change for the better the life of all mankind.

These evil beings who are keeping God's natural laws and keeping them as profit making copy-righted secrets, as a means to influence and control the mind of the unsuspecting public.

The Ronbots know these natural illegally copy-righted laws are the basis for their fame and glory. Everything is based on this.
30 months ago: Mark, I didn't suggest that Scientology proposes to educate suppressive people. Actually, I don't believe I implied that Scientology proposes to do anything to suppressive people or with suppressive people.

I do point out the suppressive persons information. I have found it helpful.
30 months ago: "I do point out the suppressive persons information. I have found it helpful."

You also found the bullsh*t made up by a crappy science fiction writer to be helpful.

I mean really, you find the information that your problems come from zombie space ghosts that came from a volcano more helpful then "your problems come from yourself and environment around you."

Why would anyone take you seriously?
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
30 months ago: Terryeo: "But I know, you, or someone, will snip out a piece of text from about 1954 that says something like: If these people (suppressive persons) were taken out of society, then society would be a much happier place."

Actually the text to which you refer comes from L Ron Hubbard's Science of Survival originally published in 1951. The complete paragraph, to give context, occurs in chapter 27 and reads: (See next post)
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
30 months ago: "The sudden and abrupt deletion of all individuals occupying the lower bands of the tone scale from the social order would result in an almost instant rise in the cultural tone and would interrupt the dwindling spiral into which any society may have entered. It is not necessary to produce a world of clears in order to have a reasonable and worthwhile social order; it is only necessary to delete those individuals who range from 2.0 down, either by processing them enough to get their tone level above the 2.0 line — a task which, indeed, is not very great, since the amount of processing in many cases might be under fifty hours, although it might also in others be in excess of two hundred — or simply quarantining them from the society. A Venezuelan dictator [Juan Vicente Gómez] once decided to stop leprosy. He saw that most lepers in his country were also beggars. By the simple expedient of collecting and destroying all the beggars in Venezuela an end was put to leprosy in that country." LRH - Science of Survival 1951.
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
30 months ago: Terryeo: Perhaps the most telling part of the text is the example Hubbard gives regarding putting an end to leprosy by "collecting and destroying all the beggars".

It is this example that gives context to the preceding text which includes "it is only necessary to delete those individuals who range from 2.0 down....or simply quarantining them from society". The use of "delete" is euphemistic.

The idea of "quarantining" seems relatively innocuous (like prison, right?) until one realises this was how the holocaust started during WWII, a process of "quarantining".
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
30 months ago: Terryeo: How does one identify some one below 2.0 on the tone scale. Well aside from being critics of the organisation calling itself the church of scientology there are a couple of other ways. Another quote from LRH Science of Survival: (See next post)
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
30 months ago:
"The body is normally sweet-smelling down to 2.0 but begins to exude chronically certain unpleasant effluvia from 2.0 down. Individuals from 2.0 down commonly have bad breath. Their feet may have a considerable odour. The musk glands are very active. The sweat has a peculiar smell. Sexual organs emit a repelling odour. And various body exhaust functions are not under very good control. The person may have to urinate or defecate under slight stresses or may weep easily for no apparent cause. This column has not been added to this chart because it has not been thoroughly explored but is only known in a general way. Any slightly or greatly repulsive physical odour from an individual does, however, indicate a tone scale position below 2.0. It is amusing to note that in the Orient wives are commonly selected by the sweetness of their perspiration. This is a very reliable test for position on the tone scale. People who have bad breath as they are processed lose it when the are above 2.0 on the tone scale. People who are temporarily suppressed below 2.0 commonly have bad breath." LRH Science of Survival 1951.
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
30 months ago: Terryeo: You use Saddam Hussain and Hitler as examples of Suppressive People and yet the definition of a Suppressive Person provided by the organisation calling itself "the church of scientology" is far wider and encompasses far more people, not just critics of the organisation and the foul smelling masses but those incapable through disabilities that do not respond to Dianetics.

By that organisation's definition I am a Suppressive Person and by that virtue am below 2.0 on its tone scale and yet I prosper as do people associated with me.

By that organisation's dictates I must either: be processed in order that I stop being a critic, thereby rising above 2.0 on the tone scale or I'm quarantined from society (read put in a labour camp) or I'm "deleted" (read killed).
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
30 months ago: Fact is Terryeo, the post is entirely correct, the organisation calling itself the church of scientology views critics of it as Suppressive People. They class critics of it as criminal because they claim the critics' only intent is to stop the good they do so stopping people getting the help they need; that is the help the organisation provides.

You are correct that the organisation states that you will not prosper if you associate yourself with a Suppressive Person.

You should add that the organisation views failure to progress within the organisation, including but not limited to failure to get (pay for) the next course, as a strong indication of a need to identify the suppressive person in ones' life and handle or disconnect from them.

Any person deemed to be associated with a suppressive person, identified or not, is deemed to be a Potential Trouble Source.

You should also add that the organisation will not provide any further services to a person deemed to be a Potential Trouble Source except to identify and handle or disconnect from their Suppressive Person. Effectively the PTS is prevented from prospering within the organisation.
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
30 months ago: Incidentally, to those who wonder how Terryeo can interact with critics as she does, well Terryeo handles critics. That is to say Terryeo does not let them affect her.

A member of the organisation calling itself the church of scientology can associate with who ever they please as long as the organisation does not detect any trace of dissent, doubt or failing which could be deemed to stem from their association with a Suppressive Person.

Staff members of the organisation, as oppose to none staff members who simply pay for courses etc, often under go Sec Checks (security checks). They may also associate with who ever they please as long as they keep passing the sec checks and don't upset anyone with the authority to declare them low on the tone scale or a potential trouble source; anyone can however write up a Knowledge Report on a member of the organisation which can be acted on which can result in a person being declared a PTS, SP or low on the tone scale.

In general members of the organisation are really good at self policing themselves, either staying clear of possible SPs (anyone not a member) or being very good at ignoring or confusing anything critics say they cannot rationalise. It's something that comes with practice but after a while members become adverse to spending time in "ethics", doing "amends" and being sec checked so they get quite good at it.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
30 months ago: Dear Readers: The cult will always claim that ALL SPs are evil and that they don't want to help others,
But that is just black propaganda made to impress upon the public that only they can heal the body, mind and soul.
In my years exposing the cult after they nearly killed me, I discovered how to heal myself of many illnesses, that had nothing to do with the PTS crap taught to Ronbots.
There are only five causes of illnesses as I wrote in Mother Nature's Secrets of Life and Death.
And all of them are tied into knowing how to use just two laws of God. Scientology claimed one of them as being only invented by LRH. Well a law of nature according to copy-right law, is NOT protected by copy-right, no matter how many they have on the subject of physiological reactions. For everything in Scientology is based upon Physiological Reactions and the law of cause and effect.
Once you know these laws any and all healings of the mind, body and soul are made clear. From then on your ability to know which one to do (five causes of illness) first leads you to recover from the majority of illnesses.
Scientology has defrauded the entire world and has denied a new knowledge given to us by God and not by RON.

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