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Unemployment Extension Compromise On the Way

Posted 17 months ago|54 comments|6,547 views
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Out Of The Box
 Moderator
In closed door negotiations between Republicans and the White House, details are being hammered out on the compromise everyone knew would be coming. But what a compromise! And to some, more indications of a disturbing trend in government.

In exchange for extended unemployment benefits (more deficit), with the added cost of a new Democrat handout of a $400 tax rebate for single workers and $800 for couples, (more deficit) the Republicans will get their extension on lower taxes (more deficit). As always, even those who pay nothing to the IRS will get the handout of US taxpayer dollars.

Also, in order to garner Republican support for ratification, Obama has thrown his arms reduction treaty into the mix (lowered national security).

Immediately following Obama's talks with Congressional Republicans, Democrats insisted on voting on a legislation that would prevent taxes from being raised on lower and middle class people. They knew it was a waste of time, that it had no chance of passing the Senate, but did so anyway in order to register their displeasure with Obama.

Obama has long said that the tax cuts to the wealthy are detrimental to our fiscal health, and unwarranted, but has recently indicated that he will surrender his position, and no longer fight those tax cuts in exchange for other items that are higher in his agenda.

Even thought the Democrats still have majorities in both the House and Senate, it is unlikely that they will be able to pass any meaningful legislation concerning unemployment without the aid of their Republican counterparts.
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daveo
daveo
Sunnyvale, CA
17 months ago: The President along with the Democrats are doing everything they can for what they know is right.God bless them.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
17 months ago: And what have they done except talk? Obama gave up "taxing the rich", the socialist's dream, in exchange for getting his nuclear treaty ratified.
17 months ago: But what if what they think is right is actually wrong? Compute those numbers in reverse and see how much time will be added to pay off that miscalculation.
sunny2
sunny2
15 months ago: You've got to be kidding. Box is right.
daveo
daveo
Sunnyvale, CA
17 months ago: Our beloved President has to sacrifice for the greater good.Democrats will give everything that America needs during President Obama's second term.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
17 months ago: Time will tell.
sunny2
sunny2
13 months ago: Box I thought it was a setup this morning, but I wasn't sure. He was too on the defense when he answered me about his job. I figured I hit him where it hurts. I wasn't taking any of those degrading remarks no matter who it was. He certainly backed off. How do they get away with posting pictures and that nonsense on this site. I thought it was one person in particular. As if I don't have other things to do. I just don't like disrespect. Sunny
17 months ago: Your beloved president needs to lay himself upon the alter and do a DEMOCRATIC crucifiction to regain the hopes and dreams of your beloved "all gets something in the pot" party?

Why don't you ask them what your going to get in the pot?

Could be a major turd to cook.
17 months ago: OH, I get it...You said "Democrats will give everything", meaning the 'republicans will take everything'. I get it. Your not only a fool your a political fool. Not to mention a fool with a major economic fool degree.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
17 months ago: Well, it's like this.

For centuries now, people have been coming to the US for jobs and opportunities. Some people didn't like the fact that the US was the center of attention on the world stage, and that we thought we were so high and mighty. Obama and the Democrats didn't like it at all, and went around the world apologizing for the US being the greedy bastards that we are.

So, do you really really think that they are going to try to get us back on our feet, or do you think that maybe, just maybe, they feel it's high time that we find out what's like to have to migrate to another country to find work and sustenance? Maybe we can find work overseas gardening, picking crops, and cleaning hotel rooms.

After all, it serves us right.
17 months ago: I'm luckey. I live very close to "The Big Thicket". A wooded area so dense that even the Vietnamese would get lost. It even has wild animals running around.

The clearing for the garden might be a give away to the BlackHawks though.
daveo
daveo
Sunnyvale, CA
17 months ago: i've got one word to this....i've found good income during tough times.."E*TRADE", fella...
boredcertified
boredcertified
Sunrise Beach, MO
17 months ago: Wow.......
daveo
daveo
Sunnyvale, CA
17 months ago: Republicans drove the car into the ditch,and now they honestly believe America will hand them the keys back in '12...i think not.President Obama and the Democratic Majority that they will regain in 2012 will put the "Beautiful" back in "America The Beautiful".
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
17 months ago: Well, as I intimated previously, no one has a crystal ball. I'm sure you never thought your Democrats would give up their super-majorities after only one term. This post is not about who better serves the people, Republican or Democrat. It's about all politicians using the things you hold dear to trick into thinking they are helping you.

For Republicans, it's lower taxes. Which means more borrowed money, and more debt.
For Democrats, it's more social programs. Which means more borrowed money, and more debt.

The Republicans say they will pay for lower taxes by reducing government and social programs.
The Democrats say they will pay for more social programs and bigger government with higher taxes.

They both say one thing and do another. They are selling your freedom to the money lenders, mainly the Fed.
17 months ago: Don't mind them Box. You, RSG and I have been telling the entire world for over 18 months to become self-reliant. We were all ridiculed and now that the chickens are coming home to roost...

I for one am heading into the kitchen with my son and teaching him how to make a large pot of three (maybe more) bean soup. Cost? about a buck. Feeds? about 6.

The FED? Once again. We have warned the entire world for over 18 months.
The Politicians? Once again. We have warned the entire world for over 18 months.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
17 months ago: I feel bad for the ones who think that the government is going to save them.
While we tote all the unfortunates who lost their incomes, and all the companies that went bust, we are getting dragged down into the same quagmire that all the politicians on both sides vowed to fight. I liked the sound of what I wrote up there, so I made it into a stand alone piece. With all the hits anything to do with unemployment is getting, I put it in the title. Maybe a bunch of folks will see it.

My last article went to the number one spot on Google search under unemployment+benefits+compromise. :-) hee hee.
17 months ago: Yep. Then they will go to the other post and unload another set of...

"I wished your were dead", "I wished you were unemployed", "You should have let your child DIE", and the related F-Bombs, A-hole, death threats and call outs for a show down towards me.

When the only thing I asked for was that any payments by the federal government be made under the Pay-Go law.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
17 months ago: Yep, and when the Dems refuse to play by their own rules, it's the Rupublicans that get called heartless, and the Democrats are stalling for effect by not compromising on a touchy emotional issue. That way both sides can point their fingers at the other side, and the American people breathe a sigh of relief when they come to a compromise that is actually more harmful than helpful.

The "right now" mentality is thoroughly ingrained.
boredcertified
boredcertified
Sunrise Beach, MO
17 months ago: Thank gods I produce a good quantity of my own food and goods....
Can I get tonights lotto numbers Cypress?
Cypress in 2012!
17 months ago: You don't have enough money for food, housing and such and yet you can waste a dollar on the LOTTO? Are you spending a dollar from the funds you received in a unemployment package?

That sums up the entire mindset.

My picks for tonight...

4, 41, 2, 7, 5, 40

Yes there is a meaning to those numbers.

Post it if you can figure it out.
17 months ago: What again is the Missouri State motto/slogan. Please refresh our memory.

Is it something along the line of "Show Me"?

Now you want it to be changed to "Give Me"?

Please.

Find the nearest exit.
boredcertified
boredcertified
Sunrise Beach, MO
17 months ago: "Show me" you can hold an intelectual debate....
Come on MELT DOWN Cypress.....
Lol u make no sense there bub....
Best wishes with the beans.... I m having free range chiken.....
17 months ago: Crack these that you asked for and come back.

4, 41, 2, 7, 5, 40
boredcertified
boredcertified
Sunrise Beach, MO
17 months ago: I will not play your game cypress. I know your type and why you post.
I spend plenty time on forums to know a troll when I smell one.
I also know that unfed you go away....
You bore me, have a happy holiday fellow Amerikan
Be well
17 months ago: I'm a troll? Was it not you that started this? Admit it.

Too bad you can't or won't crack the 5th grader code.

Seeya on the flip side.
boredcertified
boredcertified
Sunrise Beach, MO
17 months ago: I never said I was short on cash there fella.
My father is the one hurtin....
I am an organic mushroom farmer, doing well.
Lmao at you.....
It was sarcasm, again...... you been tellin the whole world for eighteen months....
Keep up, step away from the liquor....
17 months ago: Oh, I see. Your making tons of money and sitting pretty. Coming here to complain that your DAD is hitting hard times? What exactley is wrong with that picture? You don't see it?
boredcertified
boredcertified
Sunrise Beach, MO
17 months ago: Again..... keep up hoss... I said "fine"
I help my family...... I am probably a lot like you other than your aliegence to Fox news and the republican party.
My alliegence is to truth and America.
Best wishes there boss....
17 months ago: Right...
boredcertified
boredcertified
Sunrise Beach, MO
17 months ago: Catchin up..... good work! :)
boredcertified
boredcertified
Sunrise Beach, MO
17 months ago: I am complaining that my father who has paid 100 times me in taxes is being kicked to the curb... don't YOU get it?
Why do we pay??
Explain your feelings on what our money paid in is for? No sarcasm this time :)
17 months ago: You need to go back to the archives on this site a read some stuff posted before assuming anything. Your father paid into what system? Was that income tax? Where in the federal income tax code does it say income tax can be linked to any future unemployment rebate? Do YOU get it?
boredcertified
boredcertified
Sunrise Beach, MO
17 months ago: Again, no.
The unemployment tax, he has been employed more than 40 years.
Again, explain your hatred.
My looove is based on wanting a better world when I leave than when I got here.
I help everyone I can whenever I can, sometimes till it hurts.
I could be wrong, but I just feel you are closeminded and selfish....
I see you using lots of racial slurs and alternative lifestyle slangs....
17 months ago: Wow! UnEmployment relief now becomes a hidden reading by you of me...

"using lots of racial slurs and alternative lifestyle slangs"...

None of which have been deleted by this site as being over the line.

Try the 5th grader code again, and again, and again....
17 months ago: Your Father paid Unemployment tax? Where? It does not show up on my payroll stub as a federal deduction.
daveo
daveo
Sunnyvale, CA
17 months ago: -you better look a little closer there little man......on my paycheck stubs,there is a deduction towards unemployment comp....it's not a tax,though....you better find out if you're paying into it from your employer,because,if you're not,god help you if you lose your job.
17 months ago: Really? is it a federal deduction?
sunny2
sunny2
13 months ago: Cypress remember we talked about this before. Certain States deduct for unemployment insurance for the first 26 weeks. I also did my Dad's payroll and that money went to the State evrey quarter that was deducted from employees. I think there were only 3 States. The rest that the Government implemented was Federal. What's the difference anyway? Compared to all the rotten things they are throwing out at the people, if something isn't done soon people are going to be hurting bad both young and old. We have a big fight on our hands to keep our Country intact.
boredcertified
boredcertified
Sunrise Beach, MO
17 months ago: Done
Never argue a fool....
They will bring you to their level and defeat you through experieence.
I truly wish you the best Cypress
17 months ago: Couldn't crack the code? EH? Too bad.
The exit door is to the LEFT.
daveo
daveo
Sunnyvale, CA
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daveo
daveo
Sunnyvale, CA
17 months ago: Me-Oh ,My-Oh....aren't we havin' big fun on the bayou??....The
Bush Administration certainly has left us all at one-another's throats haven't they?
17 months ago: Nice! Blame it on Bush....

That didn't work too well on the last election.

Please, keep it up.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
17 months ago: Yeah, daveo, that's kind of lame, considering the record of Congress this past couple of years. The Bush administration left two years ago, this is a whole new ball game.
17 months ago: Are we having good times on the Bayou? Nice poke. However, since you people invaded our land we expect nothing less than a .....

Your Stupid, Worthless and a peice of Dung. However, please keep sending your hard earned dollars to prop up our mis-guided State....

HUH?

I say "Eat Mud Bugs".
17 months ago: Sorry BOX. I seem to have a simple minded attack force following me that can't seem to answer a direct question...Can it be issued under current federal "Pay-Go" laws.

I think that is a simple enough question.
mmlong
mmlong
Beverly, OH
17 months ago: I do believe they can pass the unemployment extension with a better tax deduction,but first we must get this unemployment extension passed.There is people out there that really needs this right now,not for the holiday season but just to get by for another month.gasoline is going up,natural gas is soaring,electric bills just keep increasing due to the winter months.its a shame these companies(all listed) have the nerve to price gouge us in one one the worst times in America.Like I said at least PASS the unemployment extension and then they can hammer out the tax breaks.
sunny2
sunny2
13 months ago: People out of work can't handle the prices as they have been but with everything going up food, gas, electric, and everything else we need help. That extension is the difference between getting a job and not getting one. If you need a car to get around in and don't have it running in good order, no job for us.
When you have to pay insurance, registration, licensing and maintenance, this is a big burden. This is bad enough. I just found my insurance company raised my rate 200.00 more for the year. They said that everyone got this increase. Whose everyone?
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
17 months ago: Let me make it simple for you. The ones that create jobs are called the"rich".

The ones that destroy jobs are called "Progressives", for over taxing the profits of the rich.

No profits means no willingness to create jobs. Get it?

That leads to outsourcing over seas, to make a profit.

A business is not evil for making a profit.

The Progressives want you to hate the rich. Understand?

I tell it like it is, I pull no punches, tell no lies, and I am as I am

THE ONE AND ONLY RONBOT AND COMMIE HUNTER
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
sunny2
sunny2
13 months ago: Tell me one person who is rich who created a job for the average person. Tell me one now who is doing it when we need it the most. The Government sold the people a bill of goods to get what they wanted on a promise of job creation. The middle income guy creates the jobs. The community hero who makes sure he supports local people and gives them work. "I pull no punches and tell no lies and I am as I am." What's that?
Criag
Criag
17 months ago: I don't know how any of you can defend Obama. DO you REALLY thinks he cares about typical Americans? He can tear apart the Republicans but look at HIS life style. Expensive vacations...Hanging out with Oprah.... Summer on the Vineyard... Christmas in HI.... Do you REALLY thinks or cares about common Americans??? He is drunk on his own power.
felix manow
felix manow
China
17 months ago: it sure looks like because of the state america is in with jobs etc china will take over as the number 1 economy in the world.
This problem goes back years for america.
Your workers wanted too much money so it was cheaper for your companies to outsource or even import from china.
America is chinas number 1 in terms of exporting goods to.
The goods are varied and the amounts are huge and unless there is a complete change by america and england in terms of lifestyle and wages etc it will not change.
Over the last 10 years or so english and americans have never had it so good and lets be honest nobody cared where things came from or where will the money come from.
Thats why the 2 countries are in trouble and the banking industry needs tighter regulations but are your governments strong enough to doit.
sunny2
sunny2
13 months ago: I wonder who manipulated in the first place to cause this.
sunny2
sunny2
13 months ago: I doubt if any other Country will ever take over as No. 1. I don't think this person knows anything about our people. That's why we are Americans. We are invincible when it comes down to it. If we are in a hole, we find a way out and come back stronger. Not so in other places such as the above. You can't compare apples with oranges no matter how you try. We are a still a young Nation and have done fantastic compared to the history and age of China.

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