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Time To Dump Nukes?

Posted 24 months ago|5 comments|545 views
Indian Point Nuclear Plant
Written by
Altruist
Eugene, OR
While many other nations are ending their nuclear power programs as a result to the Fukashima Disaster, the United States is still planning on going ahead with a major expansion of nuclear power.

We are drowning in debt and many other cheaper, clean, safe, non polluting alternatives are becoming available. Yet President Obama has proposed an additional $36 billion in new nuke loan guarantees to add to $18.5 billion set aside by the Bush Administration. http://highstrangeness.tv/0-18735-obama-...

While the nuclear industry has not had any major disasters since Three Mile Island in this country, we do have several plants that are of the same design as the Fukashima plants. As a matter of fact our plants have half the backup batteries and have much more spent fuel than Fukashima. http://nuclear-news.net/2011/05/21/us-nu...

While we haven't had any major disasters, we have had continuing leaks and "Events" which are increasing in severity and quantity because the plants which had a 25 year design life are becoming increasingly brittle with age. Most of the plants are about 40 years old now , and the underground pipes and electrical cables are corroding and leaking more and more.

An Associated Press investigation shows. that radioactive tritium has leaked from three-quarters of U.S. commercial nuclear power sites, often into groundwater from corroded, buried piping. http://www.commondreams.org/headline/201...

In response to the increasing danger, and the increasing number of leaks, the Nuclear Regulatory Agency has continuously been relaxing the rules and regulations to allow the plants to continue operating. http://www.commondreams.org/headline/201...

The most dangerous plant in the United States is the Indian Point Nuclear plant. While it sits above two faults it was not designed for them, and there are 20 million people within 50 miles. The evacuation plan is a joke because regular traffic often comes to a standstill. There are more spent fuel rods at Indian Point than any other plant in the North East, and their cooling pools are vulnerable to attack. Simply blowing up a wall will drain a pool. http://merliannews.com/Environmental_Awa...

The only nuclear plants being built in the world today, have horrendous cost over runs and unending delays. Normally they take ten years to build, but by then there will be many cheaper safer alternatives and nuclear power will be obsolete. Isn't it time to start investing in clean safe alternative energy?
UPDATE - 24 months ago
We are being told that we have nothing to worry about. Right?

Watch this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aWwfiZJ1...
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24 months ago: Good job Al. I suspect the reason it takes so long to build a plant today would be the amount of regulations we now have, not that I would not want to be safe with something such as a nuclear power plant.

From what I understand of the situation all the clean energy sources we have on line already produce only a small fraction of what we need. I am all for clean energy but to my understanding most of the proposals and solutions suggested by the environmentalist for replacing our energy needs with clean energy are upon examination pure pipe-dreams and wishful thinking. In the real world I believe we are going to convert to completely clean energy sources a bit slower than we would like.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
24 months ago: In this country by far the cheapest and quickest way to provide additional power is through conservation. by simply eliminating 10% of the power we waste we could save $20 billion. http://www.sierraclub.org/energy/renewab...

We have enough natural gas to last for a hundred years. Right now small natural gas plants are the quickest and cheapest for a utility to install. This will be the bridge technology which will help us transition to renewable power. The new GE natural gas turbines are 70% efficient, and natural gas uses about 1/3rd the CO2 of coal. Plants can be installed in a year.

Cogeneration is another way to produce cheap power immediately. Now all thermal power plants have "Waste Heat" where the steam after it comes from the turbines or boilers has to be cooled and condensed back to water. If a sterling system were put in place this waste heat could produce all kinds of power while cooling the water with cost savings of between 50% and 90%. http://www.sterlingsolar.com/video1.html

WInd power is already cost effective and we are moving to expand that resource enormously. We have just approved offshore wind power off the Atlantic coast. The biggest problem is with transmission, but that problem will be solved with DC transmission lines. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42959018/ns/...

The next stage would be tidal and wave power that can be hooked up to the existing grids.

The next stage will be hybrid power using wind and solar thermal combined with gas turbines to provide continuous power. See my last post at: http://www.rantrave.com/Rave/The-Future-...

There are many new developments in photovoltaics, and the prices will continue to decrease while the efficiencies increase much like computers continued to get cheaper using Moores law. There is no reason every rooftop shouldn't have PV panels. Some look like roof tiles, some act like windows and some produce both power and hot water at 80% efficiencies. http://www.sdesolar.com/gallery7.htm

New batteries are being developed to store the energy from intermittent power sources like solar and wind. http://www.enn.com/sci-tech/article/3178...

As I said in the next ten years there are going to be lots of alternatives that will become economically viable alternatives to nuclear. None of them are dangerous. None of them require huge investments from big government as nuclear does. None of them result in deadly waste that remains a threat for millions of years, and none can be used by terrorists to threaten millions of people.

The nuclear advocates are the ones who deal in pipe dreams and wishful thinking.
24 months ago: Well Al you may also want to look into this article. It starts off that all reasonable people would love to have all clean and renewable energy sources, which I feel is true. From there however he unveils much of the fiasco and complete waste of taxpayer money which has gone into the so called effort to go "green". A graph indicates that in the last 20 years America has increased its clean energy usage by a whopping .73% and all the clean energy sources together only account for 9.93% (up from 9.20% in 1989). I think this puts your 10 year plan in a bit of jeopardy.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/154615-t...
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
24 months ago: If we had started to push renewables when Carter suggested it 28 years ago we wouldn't be nearly as dependent on fossil fuels as we now are. http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0503...

But as we know Reagan took the solar collectors off the roof and killed any renewable proposals. The two Bushes who were big oil men likewise discouraged renewable energy. We haven't had an energy policy in all that time, and as a result there has been little incentive to invest in renewables.

As it is the Fossil fuel industries receive more than three times what renewable energy receives in subsidies. http://casafoodshed.org/archives/2010/12...

The truth is that wind is now cheaper than most other energy sources now. The reason we don't have PV on every roof and more renewables is that the big power companies can't make money by charging for the use of the sun. Big oil and coal owns almost all of our lawmakers. That is why we are still dependent on Saudi Arabia and funding terrorists.

Now power companies are building wind farms and solar farms in the deserts so they can charge us for the wind and the sun, but true energy independence won't come until we can all walk into Home Depot and roll out cheap thin cell PV panels onto our roofs.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
24 months ago: Because Republicans always block investments in renewables and push for more fossil fuel use our energy use doesn't use much renewables yet, but other countries are not hindered by radical regressives.

Globally in the last 20 years wind use has increased 18 times, solar 60 times, and tidal and wave power has increased 46 times. http://www.greenfacts.org/en/forests-ene...

Almost all other developed nations are substantially increasing their investments in renewable energy. China is spending twice what we are. If we don't wake up and realize where the energy for the future will be coming from, all of those green jobs will go to other countries.

Germany is eliminating their nukes, Japan is switching to renewables, China is determined to lead all others in production and use of renewables, and even Italy is pushing renewables. Only the US is dragging its feet because of the regressive fossil fuel lobbyists.

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