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The Lost Art of Debate

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JAK Gladney
Saint Albans, WV
In an interview with Paul Rabinow shortly before his death, philosopher/activist Michel Foucault was asked the question, “Why is it that you don’t engage in polemics?” Foucault’s answer is counterpoint to modern political discourse:

“I like discussions, and when I’m asked questions, I try to answer them…If I open a book and see that the author is accusing an adversary of ‘infantile leftism,’ I shut it again right away. That’s not my way of doing things; I don’t belong to the world of people who do things that way. In the serious play of questions and answers…the rights of each person are in some sense immanent in the discussion…Questions and answers depend on a game—a game that is at once pleasant and difficult—in which each of the two partners takes pains to use only the rights given him by the other and by the accepted form of the dialogue.”

For Foucault, this attention to form was more than simple good manners. People engaged in a discussion were partners in the search for truth—scientists testing a theory in the laboratory of debate. Compare this approach to the methods of the polemicist:

“The polemicist…proceeds encased in privileges that he possesses in advance and will never agree to question. On principle, he possesses rights authorizing him to wage war and making that struggle a just undertaking.” The person he confronts is “an adversary, an enemy who is wrong, who is harmful, whose very existence constitutes a threat.”

At the risk of sounding old, I can’t help but notice that this tone has crept into most aspects of our day-to-day communication. More telling than the disruptions of the Sotomayor hearings—garden variety political theater—are the comments that follow (see YouTube video)—representative of political posts across the internet.

It is hard, in American culture, to distinguish polemics from marketing trend and its dependents. Most of the polemical works on bookshelves seem to ape popular television debate—nightly shout fests where mutual respect just isn’t interesting television: better to pit two louts against each other in a race to the final one-liner. These works are more fanzines than systematic political theory; more troubling, they’re often a gateway to politics and political debate for the novice.

“Perhaps, someday, a long history will have to be written of polemics, polemics as a parasitic creature on discussion and an obstacle to the search for the truth,” Foucault mused. But I wonder: who in this society, where the line between information and entertainment is blurred and political insult is a favorite blood sport, is far enough removed from the polemical to write that history?
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JAK Gladney
JAK Gladney
Saint Albans, WV
34 months ago: It's been 25 years since Foucault's death. I remember slogging through his works as an undergraduate--some of that may have been language barrier (I'm not fluent in French, and much may have been lost in translation). I returned to Foucault later in adulthood, and much of what he wrote was a revelation. He seemed to anticipate the way we live now.

The Sotomayor YouTube clip was an easy choice--the comments are overwhelmingly partisan, insulting, bitter. But I realize that you could do the same with posts on Wonkette, the Huffington Post, AlterNet, etc. I'm just as discouraged, maybe more.

I'd say that "we" should insist upon better, but the "we"s aren't numerous enough to form any actionable consensus.
Out Of The Box
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34 months ago: Too true, unfortunately. The Jerry Springer mentality of Keith Olberman, Glenn Beck, Al Franken and on and on, back to the heyday of Barbara Walters, has led many to believe that this is the way to debate.
At the first sign of disagreement, out come the accusations and name-calling. The people of our great nation are not merely divided, they have been divided deliberately. Now here is one more division. Not only do we have Republicans and Democrats, conservatives and liberals, rich and poor, black and white, white collar and blue collar, three social classes, and all the subdivisions that go with it, such as poor white democrats vs poor black republicans, now we also have the polite vs.the rude.

My fear is that someone will step up and convince everyone he can unite us all under one big happy belief system.
34 months ago: JAK:
So this political insult tone is just now creeping into politics, huh?
After Mr. Hope and Change has become President?
Are you serious?
Have you ever heard of George W. Bush, our last President?
Your views of history sure are interesting.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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34 months ago: JAK, if I may:

RSG, JAK never said this is new, he was simply reporting an observation.
Of course everyone knows that the debates were just as vehement during Bush's administration, and the verbal attacks on both sides of that particular issue were just as fierce. I don't think he was singling out any particular group.

I'm not trying to offend you, RSG, but your response kind of proves his point, and that point being, polite debate, a gentleman's discussion, is dying fast. It is the unyielding, right at any cost, and therefore unthinking person he was referring to.
So cool your jets a bit RSG, we know you mean well, but don't be so hasty to defend your views by excoriating another.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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34 months ago: On a lighter note, doesn't Sotomayor sound a lot like Microsoft Sam?
JAK Gladney
JAK Gladney
Saint Albans, WV
34 months ago: Thanks, OOTB.

There's an element of political theater in every confirmation hearing. I wonder how much time, as a percentage, we spend actually gauging judicial temperament/philosophy.

When I think of the polemics of an earlier age (like the colonial/antebellum period), I can say that at least those polemicists wrote fairly sophisticated hit pieces--grounded in some understanding of classical literature, usually under a Greek or Roman pseudonym, understood by most literate people. The critique was more elevated than, "Bush is a stooge" or "this lady [Sotomayor] eats babies." Failing of our schools? I don't know...
I have to remember not to fall into this habit myself.

I think Sotomayor sounds like one of the adults in the Charlie Brown specials (wah-wah, wah wah wah wah), or Peter Frampton's talk box.

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