The American Gestapo Act

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Earlier this month, Senate approved the Gestapo-like legislation that legalizes arrest, indefinite detention, torture and interrogation of Americans without any charge or trial. In addition, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 reapproves water boarding and other torture techniques (legally called "advanced interrogation techniques") that are currently forbidden. Under this bill, US military can hold Americans for terrorism-related charges and detain them without trial ant torture indefinitely.

Supporters of this Gestapo-like act say that it is necessary to sacrifice freedom for security. So... Is the United States of America now Land of the Secure and not the Land of the Free? Furthermore, a list of approved interrogation techniques that can be used on American suspects will be top secret! Is it because the authorities want to keep the terrorists from learning some nice torture techniques or is it because American public might be appalled if they learned that Nazi Gestapo was not so inventive in torturing anti-Nazi suspects?

President Barack Obama has pledged that he would veto the legislation as it stands. Unfortunately, since Republican Congressman Ron Paul said that this legislation would allow for "literally legalizing martial law," suddenly White House thinks that it is a great law. Obama revoked his warning and plans to authorize the bill that allows indefinite detention and torture of Americans. Taking this partisan biased approach to such law is something that should make every American citizen afraid of the future.

Have Americans forgotten the eternal words of Dwight D. Eisenhower:
"If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom."

All this reminds me too much of Nazi Reichstag passing the "Gestapo Law" that allowed that "Neither the instructions nor the affairs of the Gestapo will be open to review by the administrative courts." With the secret amendments, National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 looks to offer identical authorization and secrecy for dealing with Americans "suspected of terrorist activity." Just as the "Gestapo Law" made possible for someone to be arrested, interrogated and sent to a concentration camp without any legal procedure, so does this act allows for Americans to disappear from the face of the earth and be tortured in secret indefinitely.

All that is necessary now is to have a president pass a "Night and Fog Decree" and all the "Occupy" protest leaders could start disappearing because, after all, they are fighting against the US Government and therefore could be potential terrorists. The Time named those faceless protesters as the Person of the Year 2011.

Is the Person of the year going to end up arrested in the middle of the night, and whisked off to far away prisons for torture-interrogation?

America, wake up wherever you are...
UPDATE - 34 months ago
Some quite incredible things are allowed by new National Defense Authorization Act. Now, it is legal for all military personnel to engage in sodomy and bestiality.

No wonder Lassie is not coming home...
34 months ago: I have heard it said... "The only way we can be safe in a tyrannical system, is to keep our political comments to our selves"
34 months ago: Silence is not freedom.

When you have to avoid political comments since you don't know who works for "big brother," you live under a totalitarian regime...
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34 months ago: It is easier to be one's self than to be another... as it is easier to tell the truth, because there is less to remember !:]
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
34 months ago: I noticed in the draft of the bill that several Acts regarding reporting by the military were repealed or modified, but the actual Acts being repealed were not transcripted in the bill itself.

Does anyone know the content of such?
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34 months ago: According to Senator Carl Levin, the legislation was altered because "the administration asked us to remove the language which says that US citizens and lawful residents would not be subject to this section."

As far as I could gather, the trouble was also with military custody provision of section 1032, which would appear to mandate military custody for a certain class of terrorism suspects.

Since it got amended that not only military have the right to keep terrorism suspects White House decided that now it does "not challenge the president's ability to collect intelligence, incapacitate dangerous terrorists and protect the American people," and therefore "the president's senior advisers will not recommend a veto."
34 months ago: Could you imagine the uproar if Bush was president?

The epitome of hypocracy.
San Antonio, TX
34 months ago: Scanning the comments I notice that the usual leftist/statist commentators either have chosen not to comment or have not yet commented. We shall see what they do (or don't) in the next days.

One of my Senators answered an urgent fax I sent with assurances that section 1031 does not apply to anyone but al Qaida members. But subsection (D) of section 1031 reads as follows:
"(d) CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in this section is intended to limit or expand the authority of the President or the scope of the Authorization for Use of Military Force."

Now I have never claimed to be a legal scholar. But this much I do know. S 1087 has some of the last people I would ever have expected finding common ground in denouncing it. Before it was passed by the Senate (the house passed their version months ago with essentially no fanfare), the ACLU and Mike Vanderboegh - considered by many to be the "éminence grise" of the militia movement - agreed in their condemnation of the bill. Just yesterday I read that Rand Paul (a libertarian's libertarian if there ever was one) and Dianne Feinstein (pretty much an extreme leftist/progressive) were in agreement about the bill.
From The Gaurdian (, Wednesday 14 December 2011 23.34 EST
Rand Paul, a strong libertarian, has said "detaining citizens without a court trial is not American" and that if the law passes 'the terrorists have won"

"We're talking about American citizens who can be taken from the United States and sent to a camp at Guantánamo Bay and held indefinitely."

Paul was backed by Senator Dianne Feinstein.

"Congress is essentially authorizing the indefinite imprisonment of American citizens, without charge," she said. "We are not a nation that locks up its citizens without charge."
The Cypress Gang
The Cypress Gang
34 months ago: Hate to tell you guys this but FEMA and DHS already have the provision to use U.S. military on U.S. soil. Don't think so? Is it that much of a stretch to think they might issue firearms to them in the future?
34 months ago: It is not so problematic to envision using US Army on US soil. After all, it would not be something new. Democrat president Grover Cleveland used 12,000 US Army troops to break up Pullman strike of 6,000 rail workers in 1894.

However, none of those strikers was imprisoned, tortured and held incommunicado. Compared to this, those were the days of freedom...

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