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Testing Is Not The Answer For Educatiuon!

Posted 10 months ago|14 comments|361 views
Demonizing Education Has Consequences
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Altruist
Eugene, OR
Both the No Child Left Behind Act and Obama's Race To The Top treat schools like businesses and punish those which do not perform. The only problem with that is "out-of-school factors" like poverty "count for twice as much as all in-school factors".

They try to improve the schools and determine which schools get more or less funding determined by an obsessive emphasis on testing. Naturally when so much funding and salaries are determined by test results, the inevitable result is cheating on the tests. http://psychoanalystsopposewar.org/blog/...

So instead of trying to alleviate the core problems, like alleviating poverty, they make the problems worse by giving less money to schools in high poverty areas that perform badly. In addition the intensive high pressure testing forces teachers to "Teach for the Test". This means that the students learn a very narrow spectrum of knowledge, and things like innovation and creativity fall behind.

Would it surprise you to hear that nations like Finland and Korea, that perform the best, which are the most creative and the most innovative have de-emphasized testing or done away with it altogether?

"Where Finland rejects testing, nurtures teachers, and encourages its best and brightest to become educators, we fetishize testing, portray teachers as evil parasites and financially encourage top students to become Wall Streeters."

"Just as important, Finland's tax and social welfare system have made it an economically equal society, and its education quality doesn't vary across class lines. By contrast, America's low taxes and meager social safety net have made it the industrialized world's most stratified nation -- and our Separate And Unequal education system is better funded and better performing in rich neighborhoods, and grossly underfunded and therefore under-performing in poor areas."

There is a direct correlation between poverty and poor performance in school. The main reason America's schools are performing near the bottom of the developed nations, is that we have an unequal funding situation where most of the money comes from property taxes. Naturally the schools with more money out perform those without. http://education.stateuniversity.com/pag...

Better facilities, better equipment, better teachers that are paid more, all make a difference. When other countries encourage the top students to go into education, our nation attracts the best and the brightest to go to Wall Street where they can make Billions, while our engineering, science and innovative industries can't find qualified people here in this country. They have to hire engineers from countries like India which produces about 600,000 engineers a year compared to our 84,000. About 70% of our PHD candidates are foreigners, and then because of our backwards immigration policies, after we train them we kick them out of the country. http://seekingalpha.com/article/223426-d...

Is it any wonder that we are having a hard time competing in the world? Our education system is lousy and discourages innovation, and our economic system rewards our best and brightest to go to Wall Street to learn how to steal our money more efficiently.

If we had a just and fair system we would pay people the most who help the nation the most. The education, science, and engineering, fields should all be paid the most, and those who dabble in risky financial hedge funds, derivatives, currency speculation, and algorithmic super fast stock trades, should be penalized because these things hurt the nation.

Sort of shows where our priorities are. We have poor schools yet more people in prison than all the rest of the world. Starve the educational and technical fields, but give gazillions to Wall Street Crooks. Get rich no matter how much damage you do. That is the free market at work. Might as well sell drugs.
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10 months ago: Al.

Government schools suck.

Get government out of teaching and stand back.

Easy answer.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
10 months ago: There is no evidence that private schools do any better than public schools, except for being more expensive.

However if you siphon off the elite from the public school system and spend a lot more with better facilities and teachers some elite schools do better. This leaves the public schools with the "problem" and special needs kids and with less money to help them. After adjusting for the differences Public schools actually do better than private in math. http://www.projectappleseed.org/public-p...

The free market system would only help the rich (with a few token poor for PR) leaving the poor to fail and graduate to the prison system, which is even more expensive than education.

"He who opens a school door, closes a prison." ~Victor Hugo

"Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his own tail. It won't fatten the dog." ~Mark Twain

A universal free education system is the only way every developed nation passed from undeveloped to developed.

Without an educated citizenry there can be no freedom because tyrants will be free to do what they want to the ignorant masses.

"Nations have recently been led to borrow billions for war; no nation has ever borrowed largely for education. Probably, no nation is rich enough to pay for both war and civilization. We must make our choice; we cannot have both. " ~Abraham Flexner

"Education is a better safeguard of liberty than a standing army." ~Edward Everett
10 months ago: "Make every teacher that votes against a teacher's union disclose his vote against the union publicly, and we'll be able to screw the school children."
~Redstateguy
10 months ago: "Local school boards and local government are not as smart, gifted and enlightened as all of us non-poop stinking bureaucrats in Washington, D.C."
~Redstateguy
10 months ago: "Let's us teacher union teachers cheat and change our students' test answers so our students look the smartest" ~Redstateguy
10 months ago: "Without an educated citizenry there can be no freedom because tyrants will be free to do what they want to the ignorant masses."

You are exactly right there Al.

We agree.

Ever heard of the federal department of education? That is their goal Al.

Helloooooooo Al.

(Sort of like Global warming...er...uh... global cooooling....er ...uhh... )
10 months ago: Al,
Surely the child having a goal and knowing a test is coming in a few weeks is good for them.
It forced me to learn when all i wanted to do was play sports.
If i didnt have exams at school all i would of done was play soccer and would not of got an education.
If you had no tests how do you make people learn and how do you distinguish if someone has achieved a set goal and passed.
Going down the private school avenue is surely a dangerous one as how can everyone afford it.
Mrs smith with 2 kids,no job on benefits is never going to have the money to pay for it.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
10 months ago: You are correct English with the current economic down turn fewer people are able to afford private schools and many more people are being forced to return to the public schools so we should make sure the public schools get equal funding so they can do a good job.

Students heading to college have seen tuition double. They could in the past count on loans and grants, but because of the right wing austerity programs, Pell Grants and other financial aid is drying up so soon only the rich will be able to go to school. http://blogs.cfed.org/cfed_news_clips/20...

The problem with testing is that most of the tests just test memorization, and the math and science are multiple guess. The best way to test is with written essay type answers that truly show the student's mastery of the subject, but that type of test is difficult to grade.

The goal of the teacher should not be to instil knowledge, but to teach the student to think for themselves so they can become life long students. The best schools do that like Finland, concentrate on teaching the students how to think not what to think, and then if the students are proficient at thinking they can do well when tested. Those that are coached for specific tests forget them soon after taking them.

Memorization and the types of knowledge that are tested for, only demonstrate the lowest orders of cognitive thought.

Here is an example of the type of higher order questions that should be asked of the students. http://honolulu.hawaii.edu/intranet/comm...

10 months ago: Al,
I can understand some criticism of exams as alot of young people do fear them and can freeze on the day.
If you teach someome how to think in a general sense how are you going to instill the said subject say "mathematics".
Surely teaching the subject would be more beneficial as that person would be learning about the things they are going to be tested on.
In my business studies degree if i wasnt taught about business i would never of opened a business.
Perhaps a formation of the 2 types of teaching we are discussing.
Teaching the student how to think and then installing the subject when they can,
But then how would you be able to measure that they would be ready to recieve the said subject.
I dont think i have put that accross too well but i hope you get what point i am trying to make.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
10 months ago: Of course you have to teach the different subjects. I doubt that I would have learned my engineering courses on my own either. OK the teacher has to do more than teach thinking, they have to motivate, challenge, inspire, and they also have to know their subject forwards and backwards and be able to communicate that information to the students. That includes being able to speak well, to be able to write legibly and hopefully draw well, and at the same time be funny and entertaining. No one said it was easy.

But there is different teaching methods that can be utilized. In the traditional teaching the teacher gets up and say we are teaching math. goes to the board and shows the students how to do a certain type of problem. Then the teacher assigns a bunch of similar problems and says OK see if you can figure out how to do this lot.

But what would happen if we were more creative? Research indicates that students learn easier from their peers than from a teacher, so how about trying team learning? We have design and creative teams in industry why not teams of students.

Suppose everyone on the team shares the same grade? This is an incentive for the brighter students to explain stuff to the dimmer ones, to make sure they can read, do the math etc. Every student has strengths and weaknesses, and the team knows what they are and utilizes them. Say the team switches members every week. Soon the students know and understand their peers and don't compete and belittle them because they are team mates. A team approach would end bullying. The teacher does the same introductory lecture/demonstration, assigns homework and then says to the team, go at it.

It frees up the teacher because he/she doesn't have to walk every individual through the work, so you can have bigger classes and save money. The bright kids are not bored because they have to teach, and the slow kids are helped because someone on the team is bound to have the same problem getting to the point of understanding. Slower kids need more individual attention, why not use students to help?

Research also indicates that kids learn more when they do hands on activities like laboratory work or experiments or design projects, or research projects, which is ideal for team work. In all of these endeavors the teacher's job is to come up with exercises that utilize higher states of cognitive learning.

Now with the team approach, and the hands on activities, we are utilizing all three domains of learning, cognitive, affective and psychomotor. This creates the ideal learning environment. http://serc.carleton.edu/introgeo/assess...

When these kids are tested, they do better on tests, they hate school less and drop out less, they do better in work conditions when they graduate, and they are prone to continuing their educations throughout life.
BruceDPrice
BruceDPrice
Virginia Beach, VA
10 months ago: My impression is that the Education Establishment disdains knowledge and content.

Testing reveals that children don't know very much. Ergo, according to these faux-educators, we have to get rid of testing. Really?!?

Only two choices on this multiple-choice test, and they pick the wrong one.

The correct answer is to teach basic knowledge steadily and systematically from K to 12. Then tests seem reasonable and easy because children know the answers. What a concept. We used to call it school.

Bruce Deitrick Price
Improve-Education.org

Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
10 months ago: Perhaps you are correct Bruce. It is important to insure a strong foundation in the basics before the student moves on to higher order thinking.

Of course individual teachers must continuously test their students to evaluate where they are, where they are weak, and whether the teaching is working.

When I taught I would try to have tests or quizes at least once a week. Then the grades for the term was the accumulated average of all of the quizes throughout the term. That way the students are continuously challenged, the teacher knows how effective his/her instruction has been, and there is less stress and the assessment is more accurate than relying on a single final that causes considerable stress.

I can understand the need for accountability and tests are important to assess knowledge, understanding, and standings relative to others. What I object to is the concept that schools are businesses and that tests are the product the learning factories produce. I object to schools and teachers being punished by withdrawing funding if they don't produce a good enough product. In fact outside factors have an enormous influence on education and the ability to learn and in most cases those schools that do poorly need more money to offset those outside factors not less.

The ability to do well on a test should not be the goal of education. Fostering the love of learning, the ability to think in complex manners, and the ability to learn and continue learning throughout life is more important.
10 months ago:
Suppose everyone on the team shares the same grade? This is an incentive for the brighter students to explain stuff to the dimmer ones, to make sure they can read, do the math etc. Every student has strengths and weaknesses, and the team knows what they are and utilizes them. Say the team switches members every week. Soon the students know and understand their peers and don't compete and belittle them because they are team mates. A team approach would end bullying. The teacher does the same introductory lecture/demonstration, assigns homework and then says to the team, go at it.


I think you would find that more often than not the "Intellectually Challenged" member of the team would end up getting a free ride. Of course there is an exception to every rule.

We need to teach kids to be innovative again, and allow them to fail once in while so they can have the sweet taste of victory when they succeed in an area where they previously failed. This sterilized, everyone is the same, no one person is a victim because we are all victims mentality now cultivated all across American culture needs to go away.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
10 months ago: The idea of sharing grades for the team would mean that the grades of all members of the team would be averaged together to get the team grade. If the weaker members get a free ride and fail the tests then it would bring down the grades of the brighter students, so this would be an incentive for the entire team to work with the problem kids to make sure they understand the concepts and do better at the guizes. In addition the teams would be shuffled each week or so and the teacher would try to balance the teams so those who needed the most help would get placed on a team that is best at teaching and helping the slower. In this way No child really would be left behind.

I reject the free market concept that some kids are just plain failures and should be allowed to be thrown away (sent to prison).

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