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Terror= Religion = Unexplainable.

Posted 13 months ago|21 comments|543 views
The Terror Meter
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Paper Tiger
England
There are many religious themes creeping into our posts lets have a look at it from the past and the future.

Terror is the noxious ingredient in superstition of all kinds. The food that feeds terror is produced from ignorance and uncertainty and people from the beginning of time have used this influence to scare people. If 10.000 years ago a man was given a job to look after something valuable, the employer of that person cannot watch the employee at all times, so he uses his superior knowledge to frighten the person not to steal from him and to look after his valuables with care.

If that employee ran off, he is told, with the valuable item he would be cursed to live a life of misery and in death, eternal damnation. So this part of superstition, which is religion uses ignorance to create fear.

Now fear is only a variety of terror, because a person is fearful, he anticipates evil and pain if he does not do what he has been told. As time goes on the words of fear become the culture of fear and different nations have different fears according to their lifestyles.

So around these different lifestyles groups have bonded to the fear and evil that is most likely to affect them, if they do wrong. On the boundries of these groups there is a clash, so one man with his belief and culture will say to the other, we are right and you are wrong. If this is born into your life by constant teachings. If a person has faith than he does not give to anyother point of view, because he has faith.

Anyway you can see where this is going. As time goes by we understand more and some of the things we would have died for do not matter anymore because science has disproved it ie the world is flat, the universe revolves around the earth and other proven discoveries.

So some things that we believe today will not matter in the next 10.000 years as we will certainly become more educated. 2.000 years ago miracles where common as they served to prove a point. As communications are so much more advanced today these, hearsay new stories become nearly obsolete.

Then we must look where our education has taken us today. We cannot explain the universe so we make up theories to explain what we do not know. So we bring in quantum physics and we make a rational explanation as to what it is and how to explain it.

But because there are so many things we do not understand we invent standard deviation, ans bring up Occums/Oakams Razor to explain and justify why we have filled in the gaps we do not really know about. So that makes it a guess but an educated guess, but it cannot be an educated guess because we do not have the information, as the hard bits of information we made up.

So we then ask lots of other questions, as we have discussed many times, the universe is growing. But into what? Is there such thing as eternity if so we cannot explain it as it defies explanation. Then comes infinity again what is it?

Now the way I see infinity is, there is no ending, there has never been a beginning. The problem now is if we believe in infinity in the true sense then, everything has to exist because infinity has no boundry, no limits so that means, in the true sense of infinity that everything and anything we have or have not thought of must exist. So my head begins to try to simplify infinity, eternity and by doing that puts boundry's on them. So they are not what the are. If there is only one true God then infinity does not exist

So to simplify, what are we left with? Faith.
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13 months ago: Faith is only faith if you have it... otherwise all you are left with is doubt.
Paper Tiger
Paper Tiger
England
13 months ago: Hi Truth

One of the things I am trying to understand about faith is. Five hundred years ago people believed absolutely the the Earth was the center of the universe, that is pure faith, total belief. But now we know different. So the things that we have absolute faith in today will change. How can you totally believe something when you know there is going be a change?
13 months ago: Tiger,

We have just been reminded... that God is the center of the Universe !:]
13 months ago: God did it and He said so in scripture. A question I still have is this,............

Does A.I.,.....Artificial Inteligence percieve a begining and an end or connective infinity. Also,........where did Spam really come from? Spam,........
.......mmmmmmmmmm..........the other white meat.
Paper Tiger
Paper Tiger
England
13 months ago: Hi
Artificial Inteligence does not always percieve a beginning and an end take (pie R squared) That is an infinite number, do you know the reason why? It is because you cannot divide a straight line into a circle.

You also say He said so. When God made us in his own image, the result was a being that can reason. Why give man reason if he is not allowed to use it?
13 months ago: Hello Paper Tiger! Perhaps you are right,.....it does visually make sense,.....this straight line theory,...........still,....if you measured the diameter of a straight line would you not travel in a circle to define the equation of the sum of parts in order to define the objects place in space relevant to time?
Scripture should guide reason. Scripture says Adam and Eve were created in the image of God and placed in the garden. Eve sinned and fell from her God given righteousness, she was then used in the fall of Adam. They were then told to leave the Garden of Eden where they were used to being and had been well taken care of always in the presense of God and had a strict vegetarian diet as it states in the Bible. Before God left them on their own in the world God gave them a new list of items that would be their food and God gave them meat. He specifically said that they would have to eat meat because they fell and were now seperated from God. So then what happened was that all of Adam and Eve's babies were formed in the image of the God of this world and that God is Satan. And we been stuck here ever since. But it's O.K.,.........and sometimes bad stuff happens and there ain't much you can do about it even when you try cause that's just the way God wants it.
The reasoning is a Great Gift. I still do not understand it. What humans have is incredible. The ability to reason and know that there are gods jealous of what humans have. I remember a god said something like,..................

Me thou hast made of smokeless fire and shall I worship a creature made of dust.

So I reason that the most credible book I have read is the Bible, and everything that claims to be of God, the God that made light and dark, I verify with the Bible. It is easier to find specific words and phrase's with a student Bible, using the index.
Talk to ya'll later.
Paper Tiger
Paper Tiger
England
13 months ago: Hi Ricardo, thanks for your time.
The more things we find out the questions come from a different perspective. If you measured the diameter of a straight line you are creating a circle. Now when you have created that circle, the straight line is just a point from A TO B. If you then used that straight line, created a tangent, with the line compared to a curve it does not equate. It you use the theory, then straighten the curve, as in your diameter, it is no longer a curve but a straight line. This is what we do with things we do not understand, we try to get around a problem. By getting around a problem does not solve the problem, it just makes the problem more difficult. So difficult in fact that to get over the problem of an unsolvable or an unanswerable problem we use a word called faith as a catchall. Now when somebody throws the word faith at you, you feel if you do not agree that your are a true member of whatever religion you want to be part of. You feel you have to go with the flow. So the way I see religion is, is that we are straightening the curve to fit our beliefs. To me that's a cop out. Now I don't have the answers but I have the questions, and nobody should feel like a zealot for going the extra mile to try to understand.
Abelink
Abelink
Carbonado, WA
13 months ago: Good day Mr Tiger.
People must at a point in their lives make a stand. With religion you either chose your denomination or except the one you were christened with. Nobody knows all so I would, if you are uncomfortable with faith, call it trust. If you trust something or someone, you may not understand why this person is doing a thing a certain way but because of past experiences you trust this person is doing the right thing for the right reason. Just like a parent with a child, the child does not at first understand why a parent is sending the child to school, but as the learner gets more information the child knows it was the right thing to do.
Paper Tiger
Paper Tiger
England
13 months ago: Good day to you Mr President Sir.

Trust: means. Reliance; confidence; hope; credit.
Faith: means. Belief; trust; confidence; conviction in regard to religion.

So the usage of the two words are very similar. But the point I am trying to make is that trust, faith has to have foundation for them to take effect. how can we have a foundation that is 2.000 years old and changed beyond all recognition?

georgeberaobama
georgeberaobama
Blakely Island, WA
13 months ago: Hi Tiger

The carrot and the stick has been used since Adam and Eve, what's new?
Paper Tiger
Paper Tiger
England
13 months ago: Hi George.

Everything is new that's the point. We are quoting scripture written 1.000's of years ago, by people who heard it from a friend of a friend, from a legend and 1000.0000's stories around camp fires to today. All I am asking is how can that sort of evidence dictate the way we live our whole lives. How can there be faith in that sort of evidence. If it went to a court of law it would be dismissed but the courts use that system to get people to tell the truth.
13 months ago: PT,

Yeah, interesting enough, the courts recognize the Bible as something worth swearing by !:]
Paper Tiger
Paper Tiger
England
13 months ago: Hi Truth.

I am not trying to beat the Bible up or take away peoples beliefs and faith. I am asking questions to get answers because religion is a very interesting subject. As soon as anybody starts to ask questions everybody clenches their fists, gritting their teeth and see you as a trouble making person or an idiot.

If a salesman knocked on your door and asked you to devote your life, and contributions to his offered organization, you would probably have a few questions. Truth I was bought up on religion and it was/is a mortal sin to ask difficult questions. Why?

13 months ago: Tiger,

I could be wrong, but there is a difference between questions, and rhetorical questions... you are an intelligent sort, and I find your "questions" much like my own... loaded with their own point. IF one is asking a true question, then one must consider the answer, and accept it... whether it is what they want to hear or not.
13 months ago: Hello everybody! After reading the comments I have a few more questions myself.
My understanding of the English language is average. As Paper Tiger and others have given the definitions of words like trust, faith, absolute, and a few others, I had to read a dictionary to understand the word usage and ya know,.......it makes sense. I found out that William Webster wrote the English dictionary after God told him to and William said he is a christian. I am surprised that often the true meaning of words in print are taken out of context and not fully understood by the reader,....
....at least that's what happened to me. Ya know......... if a person considers the dictionary as the authortiy of the English language then it makes sense that what ever is in the dictionary is the truth.
I still can't help but think that there are obvious differences between truth and faith that cannot be contested as they refer to two states of being,...physical and spiritual. Truth can be made manifest and manifest in this context means brought into physical reality. Faith in it's true form cannot be seen, and when it is it becomes the truth.
Ya know something,......I don't think that's the real President talking about the carrot and stick thing. I seen Charlie Sheen on here before,.........but I really don't think that's the President,..... I think it's someone else.
The idea of time is relevant to all physical things yet it is something else in the spiritual realm of existence. Time is also different in the physical realm for each and every creature of cellular design. So as scripture describes one year in the life of a man as a single day unto the Lord it has been less than six years since the crucifiction of Jesus. I understand that for myself I am lost,.....and what I think I know means very little,....because of my experience in Gods world. Considering the evil and the good, I choose good,....but if I have helped good I am unaware of it. :)
Paper Tiger
Paper Tiger
England
13 months ago: Hi Ricardo.

No I agree with you that it is not the President speaking.

Re: Time is also different in the physical realm for each and every creature of cellular design. So as scripture describes one year in the life of a man as a single day unto the Lord it has been less than six years since the crucifiction of Jesus. I understand that for myself I am lost,.....and what I think I know means very little,....because of my experience in Gods world. Considering the evil and the good, I choose good,....but if I have helped good I am unaware of it. :)

We know time is relative and that man is supposed to live three score years and ten. Then there is the Mayfly, some say, only lives for a day. Does the Mayfly think the hour is a long time, or does it think it's an hour the same for everything else, the only difference being that Mayfly have a shorter life span.

Taking these two extremes one would think that an hour for a mayfly seems longer than an hour for us. But if you compare a cats time to a humans time, is the cats hour longer because its life is shorter? If not, then time is not relative.
13 months ago: Hello Truthbrary! Interesting you said that. All authority is set in place by God and scripture say's so. The Bible also say's do not swear by anything in Heaven, Earth, nor Sea for you cannot change the color of one strand of hair on your head simply let your yes be yes and no be no. So why does the court of law ask for your hand on the Bible and your oath for sworn testimony? Can a person decline the traditional oath process because of belief in the word of God? I suppose this may in fact bring up a small argument of merit. As the world stands today it is possible to change the color of ones hair. All in all, yes means yes and no means no.
13 months ago: Ricardo,

Yes you can decline the option of swearing on the Bible (at least in Canada)... a friend was in court and refused to swear on the Bible... so the Judge asked why... so he opened the Bible to the place you quoted... and the Judge allowed him just to promise to tell the truth!

"But above all, my brothers, do not swear, either by heaven or by earth or by any other oath, but let your "yes" be yes and your "no" be no, so that you may not fall under condemnation." James 5:12
Paper Tiger
Paper Tiger
England
13 months ago: You can swear on almost anything in England. But the foundation is the Bible, Why?
Paper Tiger
Paper Tiger
England
13 months ago: You can swear on almost anything in England. But the foundation is the Bible, Why?
13 months ago: Thank you for the information Truthbrary. I have not heard of that happening in America, of course it is possible that it has. I hope I do not find myself in need of this reference. Everything seem's so,.........strange,.........profound.

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