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Ten Things Sarah Palin Would Have to Do to Get My Vote

Posted 11 months ago|90 comments|1,072 views
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Coloranter Raver
Denver, CO
Here then is my list of things 10 things Mrs. Palin Would have to Do to Get My Vote:

(a) Explain satisfactorily why anyone on earth should vote for her to hold the highest office in the free world on the heels of resigning mid-term from her governorship. Does she have regrets and what guarantees could she possibly offer that she wouldn't resign mid-term from the presidency which, no offense to Alaska, but it's a little bit bigger and more important job involving playing with the lives of hundreds of millions of people?

(b) Explain, without wavering, the Troopergate scandal. Sorry, but just because her ticket lost doesn't mean this controversy died along with it. As we understand it, she tried to use her influence as Governor of Alaska in a personal matter. How are the American people to believe she wouldn't use the Presidency to her own personal advantage?

(c) Coherently articulate her plan for healthcare including but not limited to how she plans to keep skyrocketing health care costs from bankrupting the Federal Government which is, by the way, the single largest consumer of health insurance for it's workers.

(d) Sufficiently explain how it's good sportsmanship to hunt wild animals from a helicopter with a riffle.

(e) State that she simultaneously supports a women's right to choose along with the rights of the unborn and will seek to find solutions to the issue that empower women without forcing them into back alleys for abortions.

(f) Do something no other GOP candidate real or potential has done and that is explain in clear and concise terms how to keep the economy going in the right direction and without referencing Alaskan oil or Donald Trump even once.

(g) Memorize verbatim and for comprehension, the original Constitution and amendments, as well as the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of rights. Then subject herself to and pass the same examination immigrants must to become naturalized.

(h) Give a 7-minute speech on the powers and role of the President of the United States without having to refer to her hands for hints.

(i) Tell us honestly and at long last, from where she gets her news.

(i) Finally, produce a long-form birth certificate proving that she was born in real America not that other America where those people who hate our nation reside.
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Out Of The Box
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11 months ago: Has she even announced her candidacy yet?

Are you going to hold all the candidates, Democrat and Republican, to these same criteria?

If so, you may not be voting this go-round.
Coloranter Raver
Coloranter Raver
Denver, CO
11 months ago: She is, as of yet, undeclared, but she has the "fire in my belly" and is doing a nationwide tour that looks suspiciouslylike a campaign trail, so better safe than sorry.

I will be holding all the candidates accountable, but not to the same list. There's never been a candidate without positives and negatives. One of the things I like least in a candidate, however, is one that doesn't quite comprehend that baseless attacks are pointless.
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11 months ago: How many more things does she have to get wrong before it is obvious she makes some pretty bad mistakes. This country will be a laughing stock. I'm for any woman who shows she knows what she is talking about, but this is way over the top. I'm sure there are better candidates that can throw their hats into the ring for Presidency. Where are they? They don't want any part of it. We are subjected to this foolishness.
11 months ago: Palin is currently on "vacation" touring some of America's historic spots and showing she has no idea what our history is all about. At least she did not say Paul Revere is the guy that makes the pots and pans she uses to cook up the animals she shoots from her helicopter or the fish she clubs to death in a bucket.
Out Of The Box
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11 months ago: Culley, are you referring to her comment on Paul Revere warning the British during the American Revolution? Fact is, he did.
11 months ago: We must have went to different schools OtB, as the British were already here in the Colonies and more were coming as the Revlution was escalating.

The warning was sent via lanterns in a tower, "one if by land, two if by sea". Who does not remember that from school? Sarah Palin apparently, as she thought there were warning shots as the British were coming take our guns.

She might have got part of right, but she almost all of it all wrong. The Revolution started nearly two years prior with the Boston Tea Party and the British were seeking to disarm the local militia, perhaps to avoid an all out war with them, when Revere took his infamous ride. He was captured by the British and interrogated, where he warned them not to go into Lexington and lied to them about the militias strength there.

The British called his bluff and approached Lexington, but a gunshot followed by the town's bell being rung alerted the people there of the troops approach, at which point Revere and the others the British had captured were turned loose and the British retreated to warn the rest of the army.

Later The Revolutionary War would start in full as a new country was born and we struggled to gain our independence.

Sarah Palin is an idiot that could not pass a 5th Grade History test. Revere was not warning the British, he was warning the rebel resistance, the militias that were preparing for a war. It was clear to anyone that watched her "interview" that she was making stuff up as she went along.
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11 months ago: Boston University history professor Brendan McConville -

"Basically when Paul Revere was stopped by the British, he did say to them, 'Look, there is a mobilization going on that you'll be confronting,' and the British are aware as they're marching down the countryside, they hear church bells ringing - she was right about that - and warning shots being fired. That's accurate,"
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11 months ago: The fighting in the American Revolution began in 1775 with the Battles of Lexington and Concord, and the British were warned by a captured Paul Revere that if they continued to Lexington there would be armed militiamen waiting for them there. As the British continued on toward Lexington, they heard the church bells ringing and warning shots being fired.

So which part did she get wrong? The part that she knows more about history than the average reporter?
11 months ago: Or that's part of the rewrites the Palinistas put on Wikipedia.

Revere lied to the British. He was not warning the British as Palin said he was. He was trying to avoid them when he was captured and detained. As long as he was captured, he must have thought why not spread a little misinformation to the British troops. The British knew a war was coming, it had been for nearly two years.
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BadCyborg
San Antonio, TX
11 months ago: According to Cully Waggoner,
The warning was sent via lanterns in a tower, "one if by land, two if by sea"

Well, the lantern was sent to an additional rider who was part of the group of riders along with Revere, William Dawes and others who went out raising the alarm. The British marched all night to get to Lexington green - where was fired the "shot heard round the world" (note, this was April of 1775 some some 15 months before the Declaration of Independence was signed) and later to Concord.

The British FAILED utterly to accomplish their mission - that of arresting Sam Adams and others and seizing colonial weapons - lost an engagement at a bridge in Concord and then got the crap kicked out of them as they marched BACK to Boston. There was only one road they could take for their return (although they COULD have gone cross country which would have slowed them down considerably while giving the colonials even MORE time to ambush and kill them) and every couple of miles the colonials would fire a couple of volleys into the British troops before fading into the brush to be replaced by YET ANOTHER group of colonial riflemen a bit further down the road. All in all, the British suffered in excess of 30% casualties including at least one officer KIA.

One of the officers on the mission had previously stated that the only place he would let colonial troops travel with "real soldiers (British regulars)" was in the rear with the cooks and camp followers "whores". By the time the Britished limped under the cover of the guns of the British shipped anchored in Boston harbor, he had changed his mind.
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11 months ago: Palin is just in this for the money and the publicity. I doubt if she would be willing to take a pay cut to only $150,000 and actually have to work 12 hours a day, and make hard judgements that she can be held responsible for, when she makes millions for just blathering about stuff she knows nothing about.
11 months ago: Great piece! Sarah Palin is not serious about running for office. She is just having fun stringing along the media right now.
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11 months ago: My opinion, and just my opinion, is that Palin is doing exactly what she is being paid rather handsomely to do, which is specifically bringing division to a strengthening conservative movement.

The media, meantime, is trying to pick the Republican nominee in Mitt Romney, to be the one who loses by a hair to Obama in 2012. Just like they did with McCain in '08. Nobody wanted McCain until the media told us how well he was doing in their polls. Palin is a distraction from the social manipulation being carried out right now, right under everyone's noses. The 2012 election process will be a real nail biter, a photo finish, neck and neck all the way to finish line.

Gotta keep us at each other's throats. Question is, as CRR has pointed out before, "Why?"
Coloranter Raver
Coloranter Raver
Denver, CO
11 months ago: The media 'picks' based on what? Based on who will sell more papers, grab more online readers and clicks, and create spectacle to make them money. It's nice that we all have an altruistic view of the media – brilliant, risk-taking journalists out there uncovering the truth and helping ensure justice, but the truth o fthe matter is that the 4th Estate has come to be about the same thing as everything else in America – money, money, money.

In my opinion, no candidate in a decade has brought the media more money than Sarah Palin. The media wants her to run because the ratings following her debates will break records. Her constant gaffes sell big time. Her 'real American' view creates media maelstroms. It will be very surprising if she doesn't run for office, and everyone needs to be careful because she, like Jesse Ventura and Arnold Schwarzenegger, could win. With a disgruntled electorate and active college students registered in droves, the so-called 'joke' candidates can squeeze into office. Sometimes the results of such victories, however, do not go as planned. From what she's shown us, her ego is sufficiently grand to cause her to run.
sunny2
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11 months ago: ColorR. I can understand how the media is having a blast with this, but on the other hand, what will she do with the Office of Presidency once she gets in.
She is not smart enough. That's the bottom line drawn in the sand for me and enough not to vote for her. Obama better change his ways and do something spectacular or he will have a tough time winning votes.
Since you're a teacher, I remember my history teacher saying this: Remember people are the ones that can change the laws if they don't like them. It is all up to the people.
I always believed that the people were important to our Country but not so much anymore.
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11 months ago: CRR

I know you don't believe that the media's sole motivation is money. They definitely each have their own agendas that they feel is their moral obligation to "educate" the public on. "Brilliant, risk-taking journalists?" You mean like the ones who got fired for putting out damaging stories without even checking for references, because it would help their own candidate? (Think Dan Rather).

The Fourth Branch is already steering public opinion into thinking about a run-off between Romney and Obama, with their little polls showing Romney edging past Obama, and almost 1 1/2 years left till the election. Don't be fooled into thinking Romney just dropped out last go-round against McCain because he thought it was fruitless to run. There were deals made, and you can be sure of it. Romney is simply the RINO of choice this cycle, lukewarm enough to make a showing, but not on fire enough to make the cut.

Coloranter Raver
Coloranter Raver
Denver, CO
11 months ago: I would like to say that I don't think the race will be very close this time, any more so than it was last time – though the media always portrays it as being closer than it is and both parties want people to think it's close to keep people from sitting at home knitting rather than going out to vote.
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11 months ago: Wikipedia: In what is well known today by the phrase "one if by land, two if by sea", one lantern in the steeple would signal the army's choice of the land route, while two lanterns would signal the route "by water" across the Charles River.[33] Revere first gave instructions to send the signal to Charlestown. He then crossed the Charles River by rowboat, slipping past the British warship HMS Somerset at anchor. Crossings were banned at that hour, but Revere safely landed in Charlestown and rode to Lexington, avoiding a British patrol and later warning almost every house along the route. The Charlestown colonists dispatched additional riders to the north.[32][34]

sunny2
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11 months ago: I don't want to hurt SP's feelings, but she is doing an injustice to America if she runs again.
Either she is not ready for this venture, or she is totally unsuitable. Her speeches are too much for me to take and don't always make sense. She doesn't reach out for the good of all the people.
When a candidate loses once, it is improbable that she will ever win if she runs.
Coloranter Raver
Coloranter Raver
Denver, CO
11 months ago: How many times did Nixon run before winning?
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11 months ago: He wasn't a woman.

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11 months ago: Wikipedia: As a result, his "midnight ride" to warn the people that the British forces were coming is a legendary part of United States history.

I didn't see what she said but did she think he was warning the British?


11 months ago: I saw a story online about how the Palin supporters were rewriting the Wikipedia page to make Palin look correct and that Wikipedai had to correct the rewrites and lock the page.
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11 months ago: That made me laugh. Good one Cully.
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11 months ago: How can she get things so backwards?
Coloranter Raver
Coloranter Raver
Denver, CO
11 months ago: Unfortunately, Sarah Palin, while being a college graduate, never was pushed in an academically rigorous way. Unlike our current president who has his law degree from Harvard and subsequently a law school professor, Mrs. Palin graduated with a bachelor's degree in journalism. Had she been a serious student, she might comprehend American history a bit better. It's difficult to say if she is capable of, for example, applying to, being accepted by, enrolling in, and graduating from law schoo or any professional school with a masters or doctoral degree. Unfortunately, these are not requirements to run for office in our nation.

One of the most significant disadvantages her candidacy would bring to the table for our nation is she's failed to demonstrate the intellect necessary to oversee the executive branch of the federal government. Even with a top notch staff, does she have the raw brain power? The position is not a figurehead position. It's real. Could she go toe-to-toe with the leaders of the free and not so free world? Would her handlers have to spend 99% of their time prepping her to keep her from saying positively idiotic and insulting things to other nations.

The general anti-intellectual elements of the GOP and Tea Party don't mind this kind of thing. They believe shouting, "cut the taxes" is the only thing that matters.

It is sad if Mrs. Palin has deluded herself into thinking that these things don't matter. To the rest of us and the rest of the world they do.
sunny2
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11 months ago: ColoraverRanter claims that he is a science teacher. I have respect for that, and I click on his Rants because of my interests in his comments and what he has to say.
I've asked questions, and he pretty much never answers. Teachers usually reply to others that ask questions that's what they do.
Just curious as to why. It is helpful to get answers to questions.
Coloranter Raver
Coloranter Raver
Denver, CO
11 months ago: With my apologies, Sunny2. I believed most of your questions to be rhetorical. I otherwise always try to answer questions to which I feel I either know the answer or can help out.
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11 months ago: Okay.
Sometimes I ask you questions because I really need an answer, and it is important to me.
I click on your Rants to be helpful. That's all I know.
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Out Of The Box
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11 months ago: Here ya go Cully, a little non newspaper called the L.A. Times ran this article:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washingt...
Out Of The Box
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11 months ago:
"The well-known fable is Revere's late-night ride to warn fellow revolutionaries that....
...the British were coming. Less known, obviously, is the rest of the evening's events in which Revere was captured by said redcoats and did indeed defiantly warn them of the awakened militia awaiting their arrival ahead and of the American Revolution's inevitable victory.

Palin knew this. The on-scene reporters did not and ran off like Revere to alert the world to Palin's latest mis-speak, which wasn't.

Like a number of famous faux gaffes in American politics, the facts of the situation no longer really matter.

The initial impression was eagerly grabbed by so many, starting with the reporter and millions of others gleefully sharing the story that reinforced their beliefs and/or desires.

This phenomenon is actually not a new one in American politics, although its immediate spread is obviously hastened by the Internet. Speaking of which, Al Gore did not invent it. Nor did he claim to, as often as you've heard otherwise.
11 months ago: The really sad part is most people if you asked them about history don't have a clue either. If you have ever seen Jay Leno's "Jaywalking" segment or any other interview done with a person on the street then you know what I mean.

Sarah Palin is an idiot. A highly paid idiot, but and idiot none the less. It's the "Jaywalking" type of people that will vote for her, because they don't know any better. God help us all if she ever got elected.

If Revere really was to warn the British why was he trying to evade them all night? Why not just go up to them and say. "He guys don't go into Lexington because we're going to kick your ****". He lied to the British after he was captured by them, I don't see that as a warning.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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11 months ago: "If Revere really was to warn the British why was he trying to evade them all night?"

Palin never said that Revere's primary mission was to warn the British. She simply said that he did warn the British.

"He who warned, uh, the … the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, uh, by ringin' those bells and, um, by makin' sure that as he's ridin' his horse through town to send those warnin' shots and bells that, uh, we were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free … and we were gonna be armed."
sunny2
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11 months ago: What was the point with SP saying this?
She's boring.
Out Of The Box
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11 months ago: NPR interview between Melissa Block and Professor Robert Allen , professor and historian at Suffolk University

http://www.npr.org/2011/06/06/137011636/...

Prof. ALLISON: Well, he was - he also was a bell ringer. That is, he rang the bells at Old North Church as a boy. But he, personally, is not getting off his horse and going to ring bells. He's telling other people - and this is their system before Facebook, before Twitter, before NPR - this was the way you get a message out, is by having people ring church bells, and everyone knows there is an emergency.

And by this time, of course, the various town committees of safety, militia knew what the signals were, so they knew something was afoot. So this is no longer a secret operation for the British.

Revere isn't trying to alert the British, but he is trying to warn them. And in April of 1775, no one was talking about independence. We're still part of the British Empire. We're trying to save it. So this is a warning to the British Empire what will happen if you provoke Americans.

BLOCK:Sarah Palin also was saying there that Paul Revere's message to the British in his warning was: You're not going to take American arms - you know, basically a Second Amendment argument, even though the Second Amendment didn't exist then.

Prof. ALLISON: Yeah. She was making a Second Amendment case. But in fact, the British were going out to Concord to seize colonists' arms, the weapons that the Massachusetts Provincial Congress was stockpiling there.

So, yeah, she is right in that. I mean, she may be pushing it too far to say this is a Second Amendment case. Of course, neither the Second Amendment nor the Constitution was in anyone's mind at the time. But the British objective was to get the arms that were stockpiled in Concord.

BLOCK: So you think basically, on the whole, Sarah Palin got her history right.

Prof. ALLISON: Well, yeah, she did. And remember, she is a politician. She's not an historian. And God help us when historians start acting like politicians, and I suppose when politicians start writing history.
11 months ago: Sarah Palin for president lmao I hope i never see this.......
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11 months ago: I don't care what she quotes or who is coaching her to say things that cause this stir, but she is unqualified period. Who cares if she talks about Paul Revere. She probably doesn't understand what she reads. That's a dead issue. What counts is today and what is happening to our economy.
If she becomes President, I'm leaving this Country.
BadCyborg
BadCyborg
San Antonio, TX
11 months ago: If Mrs. Palin is "just in this for the money and the publicity" and such a loser and such a really bad choice for President, then why is the Lame Stream Media doing the dead-level BEST to discredit her? There are several GOP MEN already IN the race and the LSM is basically ignoring them. Why? If Mrs. Palin is such a non-entity, why did former Democrat Party National Chairman Howard Dean say recently that she could beat Obama?

From your mouth (keyboard?) to God's ears, Sunny. I just hope that large numbers of leftist/statist/progressive wackos like you follow suit. How 'bout it CW, Al, CR, will you be bugging out if she wins, too? Perhaps those generous Europeans will ceed you a patch of land to found your statist/socialist/progressive utopia.

Cully, perhaps she is just out building up conservative enthusiasm.

But I shall end this as I began. If Sarah Palin is such a nincompoop and a non-candidate, why is the LSM working SO VERY HARD to discredit her? Could the reason that they hate her so much - unlike the DECLARED candidates already formally/officially running - in fact be because they KNOW she would have a VERY REAL SHOT at making Obama like most of the Democrat presidents in my adulthood - a one-term president??
11 months ago: See this is the problem with politics. Someone brings up a current topic and the rest run for the cover of ancient history..
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11 months ago: There were so many topics today to talk about but that were interesting.
As far as SP:
Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."
What a sorry place America would be in the hands of a person who is not smart enough to represent America.
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11 months ago: Did someone call her a nincompoop and a noncandidate?
BadCyborg
BadCyborg
San Antonio, TX
11 months ago: Not in those exact words, Madam, but that is how they (including yourself) are treating her. The free online dictionary (www.thefreedictionary.com) defines nincompoop thus:
"A silly, foolish, or stupid person."
alternatively:
"a stupid person; fool; idiot"

From your own keyboard, Madam,
"What a sorry place America would be in the hands of a person who is not smart enough to represent America."
"She probably doesn't understand what she reads."
"She is not smart enough. That's the bottom line drawn in the sand for me" (talk about mixing metaphors BC)

According to the sagacious Cully Waggoner "Sarah Palin is an idiot. A highly paid idiot, but and idiot none the less."
"Sarah Palin is an idiot that could not pass a 5th Grade History test"

The inestimable Coloranter Raver said of Mrs. Palin "she's failed to demonstrate the intellect necessary to oversee the executive branch of the federal government. Even with a top notch staff, does she have the raw brain power?"

So in response to your question, Madam, I would say that pretty much all of you statists effectively called her a nincompoop.

There were also multiple comments about here not being a "serious" candidate.

But again I ask. If the LSM are NOT afraid of her, why go to such lengths to discredit her? To tear her down?
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11 months ago: To whoever this person is who lives on another planet, thanks for repeating it and making it written in stone. Better move into the real world.
11 months ago: Sarah Palin is an idiot, I'm not sure why BadCyborg and some others don't understand that. Everyone is certainly free to like and vote for which candidate or non-candidate they like for President, Governor, Mayor of "Resume Speed" Alaska or whichever political office they might be running for. As such, if she does run she will get a fair amount of votes, because stupid people like her and they vote too.

I thought George Herbert Walker Bush was one of the smartest and best prepared canidates for the job. He was a Congressman, he served on the House Ways and Means Committee, Ambassador to the United Nations, Chairman of the RNC, he was Chief of the US Liaison Office in the People's Republic of China, Director of the CIA and of course Vice President for two terms before he became President.

That does not mean I liked or voted for George Herbert Walker Bush, but I respected him for his accomplishments and felt he deserved to be President.

Now what has Sarah Palin done to desereve to be President?

She was Miss Wasilla 1984 beatuy pagent winner, former TV Sportscaster in Anchorage, she helped her husband as a commercial fisherman, a member of the Wasilla City Council and eveutally Mayor of Wasilla. Chairman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, she was Governor of Alaska for half of a term before she quit, she was a Vice Presidential candidate for 2008 and she wrote a couple books and she hosted a reality TV show where she shot animals and beat fish in a bucket.

Not exactly somebody I want running the United States of America.

Who would want a wannabe, nincompoop, poser, loser who can't answer a simple question like "What newspapers and magazines do you read?". The U.S. has some very serious problems and we need some serious people running the country, NOT people like Sarah Palin.
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11 months ago: CW That's what I don't understand why they feel they have to defend her. They don't know her personally. We choose the candidate who we want.
Remember when she decapitated the turkeys on National television.
She was talking to the camera and behind her the poor turkey's heads were bouncing off.
Poor judgment on her part. She makes the same mistakes over and over.
She refuses to learn from her mistakes. She will take away some votes but she is not as smart as some of the woman such as Hillary Clinton. She couldn't fill her shoes.
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11 months ago: Sunny

I'm not trying to be ugly, but how else would you recommend a turkey be killed? I know you are an intelligent person, and you know all those turkeys you cooked have to be killed in order to be plucked and wrapped in the shiny plastic wrap you see in the grocery store. At least Palin has the guts to do it herself, and has not removed herself from the fact that we all (mostly) murder animals in order to eat. Every hamburger, chicken sandwich, whatever, has a dead animal in it.

To me, it was not a mistake. It shows me that she is in tune with nature.
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11 months ago: Box, point taken, and I agree. Being in tune with nature to me is communicating with the innerself and with God.
There was no need to shock people.
It was just the brutality of it. It didn't seem civilized to show anything living being killed in front of the entire world.
We have a system in place. It did upset a lot of people. I thought that she showed it to be cool on her part. She knew what she was doing, and there was a senselessness to it.
I stopped eating veal 25 years ago because I didn't like the way the animals were being treated. I haven't touched it since, along with other animal products I won't eat.
Then, of course, it upsets me when animals kill each other in the jungle even though it is for the necessity of food. It looks savage. I got the same feeling from her killing the turkeys. She beats fish on the head. She talks about bears like they are sweet members of her family. She showed absolutely no consideration for children who may have been watching tv at that time. That affects children.
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11 months ago: "Who would want a wannabe, nincompoop, poser, loser who can't answer a simple question "

I agree with the above sentiment, and worry that it may be a little too late when the current Nincompoop in Chief gets through with us. Really, what has he done to lend him experience? He was born as far away from mainstream America as possible without actually being a foreigner, he was a neighborhood activist, a state Senator, and a US Senator for almost one term, when he quit his Senate seat to focus on the Presidency. Oh yeah, he wrote a couple of books, (maybe). He can't hold a thought without his teleprompter, and is more interested in looking good than doing good. He also traveled to 57 states during his campaign.

Here are a few historical facts that Obama got wrong, but somehow, the media didn't dissect every word.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap2Cg_FDR...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5R6kVry4...
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11 months ago: I wish we had more choices, Box.
There is no one who stands out and most people don't want the job.
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11 months ago: I think he is instigating all of the ridicule and making it worse.
Just listen to all the reports in the media, and you get a good idea of who she is. She is not very popular with the majority of the people. It is not just us here. Can you imagine her talking to a foreign minister and making a big blunder. There are a lot of others I wouldn't want to see run this Country either. They give themselves away with their comments. So it just isn't aimed at her. We are trying to sort out who we want and have very few choices. Guiliani wants to run again. He isn't popular with the people.
BadCyborg
BadCyborg
San Antonio, TX
11 months ago: Once again I ask you leftists/statists to explain why the media are working so hard to discredit Mrs. Palin? If she is so stupid and really has less than a snowball's chance in a nuclear blast of being elected, why are they concentrating on HER when there are so many (one would expect) MORE viable GOP candidates out there?? The woman isn't even RUNNING for goodness sake! Wouldn't their time and effort be better spent attacking someone who IS running for the GOP nomination?

I'm not defending Mrs. Palin, She does not need me to do so. She is holding her own from where I sit. I am just curious as to why the Lame Stream Media are working so very, very hard to discredit her.

Could it be because they know deep down in their black statist/progressive hearts that she DOES represent a credible threat to His Most Holy and August Majesty Barak the first's aspirations to be that rarity of rarities in the last half of the 20th Century - a TWO TERM Democrat President? Howard Dean seems to consider her a credible threat.

Sunny, we all know you cannot answer the question. You can only generate snide remarks and horribly mangled metaphors (bottom line drawn in the sand"?? Really??) so I am hoping someone else to rise to the (not inconsiderable - for a leftist anyhow) challenge present a cogent answer to why the LSM continues to hound Gov. Palin.
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11 months ago: Who is this mask man who haunts me so? I think he is living in a bubble world or in a day dream. I think he is losing some of his credibility. Not sure if he had any in the first place. Still not mad at him. I'm immoveable, and you can't rattle me. I enjoy being an American woman with long, pretty dark hair and a great big smile and big eyes to see with. Just not looking at you Bub.
I said I don't want to talk to him, and he made up a story in his head that I did. Boy doesn't he wish. Who cares about SP? He must be stalking her or has a disorder of sorts. Sorry f hope you feel better mask man. How's that for snide remark? You asked for it, and you got it. I can run circles around you. You just don't like my answers because you can't handle them.

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BadCyborg
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San Antonio, TX
11 months ago: "Who cares about SP"
The mainstream media apparently. Why do you suppose that is?

I'm not trying to rattle you, Madam. You have so many screws loose now you rattle when you walk. Why would I wish to ADD TO the current cacophony?
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11 months ago: Sunny2 blurted
"There isn't much to say about someone who is dumb and can't speak well and shows no interest in her Countrymen, only in her small group of worshipers. "
That being the case, why does the Lame Stream Media devote so much time to her. Hardly a day goes by without one if not all of the LSM evening newscasts running at least one story about this person about whom you say there "isn't much to say".

As the immortal bard put it
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks." Hamlet Act 3, scene 2, line 230
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11 months ago: This guy is an instigator.
BadCyborg
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San Antonio, TX
11 months ago: Not at all. I just seem to be asking a question for which you have no answer. And having no answer for the simple question, you resort to mangled metaphors and snide remarks.

I find it amusing that such an intelligent, educated, erudite, literate and articulate person as yourself is completely unable to answer the question of why a person for whom there is little to say gets so much air time on the national news outlets and how has an entire cadre of reporters busily combing through hundreds of pages of emails from her time as Governor of Alaska.
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11 months ago: I know from experience in life that there are heroes out there that never look for the publicity and quietly go about doing good.
A President is born to be a Leader of their Country, and not one artificially created to look like a President by the press. Who in God's name really gets misled by her hoopla. She just does not make the grade. I don't see a sincere bone in her body that she shows any care about the rest of us.
The Republicans put us in a hole, and she will dig it deeper.
11 months ago: I honestly don't have an answer as to why Palin gets the attention she does. Personally I think the entire media should stop covering her until she declares to be a candidate. My guess would be that Palin sells, just like sex sells. We've had to deal with Anthony Wiener's Twitter escapes now for over a week, why? Sex sells.

Next up the media will pour over her e-mails, except the one we really want to see have already been blocked and not released. So we have more of Palin in the news when she did nothing newsworthy.

I just wish she would go away and the media would leave her alone.
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San Antonio, TX
11 months ago: Cully Waggoner moaned
"I just wish she would go away and the media would leave her alone."
Don't you see, Cully? The LSM CANNOT leave her alone. If they do not continue to hammer the false message that she is a nobody an idiot and a non candidate then the thinking people of the U.S. will have an opportunity to see what an outstanding choice she really is. The lady has a ton of moxie and really has a good head on her shoulders. Compared to Obumble she is Einstein, Hawking, Newton and Da Vinci all rolled into one with a dash of Jefferson for good measure.
11 months ago: You liberal/socialists are scared of her.
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11 months ago: This person with a mask (someone hiding his true self) is very disrespectful to woman but throws SP out there as bait. He is using her as a ploy to get attention. I'm not going to dignify this person any longer by responding to his lack of clarity and apparent confusion.
There is obviously something very wrong here.He is making less and less sense by speaking like a broken record with no content in what he says.
It is very clear to me what he is doing.
A lot of woman steer clear of this site, and he is one of the reasons why. How can he like SP and hate woman all at the same time?
I don't believe he is a fan of SP. It is all made up to cause discourse and to get his sorry self noticed. I really don't have a thing against SP except I don't feel she is a good candidate for Presidency. She tries hard, and I give her that and she has that right. I have read this person's post in the past that didn't sit well with me; especially, when he spoke about how he raised children. I have tried to ignor him ever since. He flatters himself quite a bit by trying to get people to answer him and thinking he has that ability to draw them into his confusion.
Maybe he should get off a jaded subject and try to gain his respect back. It is apparent what is wrong. I hope he gets some help. Nothing he can say to me will make me recognize him again.

TheLegendTomWing
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Philadelphia, PA
11 months ago: Just because you can recite the constitution, doesn't mean you understand it.
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11 months ago: So right Legend.
11 months ago: President Palin already has my vote, and anybody that votes against her is a sexist biggot....among other things.
Out Of The Box
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11 months ago: Red I think you hit the nail on the head. The misogynistic hate rhetoric spewing from the left is reminiscent of the pre-suffrage days when women weren't allowed to smoke, much less have a voice in politics. I guess all these chauvinistic lefters would like to roll back the 19th Amendment, and see women kept in more traditional roles, since the mere sight of a woman toting a rifle or clubbing a fish sends chills down their spine. Maybe if Palin would wear her pearls and apron they might let her serve the coffee to the real men that they think ought to be in positions of leadership.

Oh yeah you know its true. The only reason the left / liberals hate Palin is because they hate all women. No matter how many other false reasons they can spout defending their dislike of her, we all know what it really boils down to. That's why a politically savvy, intelligent, and vastly more experienced Hillary Clinton was defeated by a nobody, no-name, no experience, johhny-come-lately. They just couldn't stomach having a woman in charge.
11 months ago: HEAR, HEAR!
11 months ago: I'm only scared of what she would do as President the same way I worry about the other conservatives too. I still don't know why they are called Conservatives. To me somebody who is conservative does not like to take chances and likes to play it safe. The political conservatives are far from playing it safe, they are insane and willing to risk it all on something stupid.

When you don't make your car payment, they send a tow truck and repo your car. When you don't make your house payment they send the cops and kick you out. The United States owes Billions to China and the Chinese have already warned the U.S. about our Debt Ceiling and what happens if we don't raise it.

In the big stakes real life world of politics Sarah Palin gets crushed. You might as well vote for a Hooters Girl for President, the results would be the same.

11 months ago: I'm only scared of what she would do as President the same way I worry about the other conservatives too. I still don't know why they are called Conservatives. To me somebody who is conservative does not like to take chances and likes to play it safe. The political conservatives are far from playing it safe, they are insane and willing to risk it all on something stupid.

When you don't make your car payment, they send a tow truck and repo your car. When you don't make your house payment they send the cops and kick you out. The United States owes Billions to China and the Chinese have already warned the U.S. about our Debt Ceiling and what happens if we don't raise it.

In the big stakes real life world of politics Sarah Palin gets crushed. You might as well vote for a Hooters Girl for President, the results would be the same.

11 months ago: I'm only scared of what she would do as President the same way I worry about the other conservatives too. I still don't know why they are called Conservatives. To me somebody who is conservative does not like to take chances and likes to play it safe. The political conservatives are far from playing it safe, they are insane and willing to risk it all on something stupid.

When you don't make your car payment, they send a tow truck and repo your car. When you don't make your house payment they send the cops and kick you out. The United States owes Billions to China and the Chinese have already warned the U.S. about our Debt Ceiling and what happens if we don't raise it.

In the big stakes real life world of politics Sarah Palin gets crushed. You might as well vote for a Hooters Girl for President, the results would be the same.

11 months ago: and all of the delagates of Texas. Number eleven...uh..(k)...

Die.
11 months ago: I don't hate Sarah Palin because I hate all women, in fact I don't hate Palin, I just think she is an idiot. Stupidity is something I can't stand in anyone and Palin seems to have more if than most.

It seems to me it's the Democrat Liberals that do more for women in general than the Republican Conservatives who are the ones I see really hating women and supporting laws that offend women.

Hillary lost to Obama because she is a polarizing person, there is no middle ground you either love her or hate her. Obama was an unknown so he did not have that issue.

I don't think Obama has been all that great, despite having done some great things he has fallen short a few times. Still he has done more for our country in the last two years than McCain / Palin ever would.
11 months ago: Not as smart as you, huh?

you liberal
11 months ago: Yes, I believe that I am smarter than Sarah Palin. In fact I believe most of the dogs I've ever owned are smarter than she is too.
11 months ago: Yes, I believe that I am smarter than Sarah Palin. In fact I believe most of the dogs I've ever owned are smarter than she is too.
11 months ago: Yes, I believe that I am smarter than Sarah Palin. In fact I believe most of the dogs I've ever owned are smarter than she is too.
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11 months ago: He has a mindset for a society of 3rd World culture.
11 months ago: I don't hate Sarah Palin because I hate all women, in fact I don't hate Palin, I just think she is an idiot. Stupidity is something I can't stand in anyone and Palin seems to have more if than most.

It seems to me it's the Democrat Liberals that do more for women in general than the Republican Conservatives who are the ones I see really hating women and supporting laws that offend women.

Hillary lost to Obama because she is a polarizing person, there is no middle ground you either love her or hate her. Obama was an unknown so he did not have that issue.

I don't think Obama has been all that great, despite having done some great things he has fallen short a few times. Still he has done more for our country in the last two years than McCain / Palin ever would.
Out Of The Box
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11 months ago: Replace "women" with "black" and replace Left with Right, and replace "Palin" with "Obama" and you will have the same desperate argument that the left was throwing out as to why Obama was disliked by the Right. If you continue bashing Palin at the slightest opportunity, you too will be labeled as prejudiced, only against women. I don't know if you personally were guilty of broad stroking the entire Obama opposition as a bunch of racially prejudiced hicks, but now you know what it feels like to be falsely accused.

As for the McCain/Palin administration, I tend to agree, due to McCain's more liberal leanings, but then again, that's something the world will never know.
TheLegendTomWing
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Philadelphia, PA
11 months ago: As someone who voted for the McCain palin ticket I think I have a unique perspective here. I don't think palin is stupid at all, actually she has used the media in ways to make more money than we could ever dream of doing. I just think Obama has done a pretty good job with the hand he was dealt. I am not a liberal nor a socialist. I am a registered republican who has voted straight republican in every election save for one state representative. However, if Obama continues to do what he has been doing, and can continue to work the middle road with republicans (which, contrary to fox news, he has, tax breaks for example), he will have my vote.

I won't vote for palin not because she is a woman, and not because she is polarizing, I like both of those things about her. I won't vote for her because the man we already have seems to be doing a decent job. I'm not happy with all of his decisions, but that's how compromise works.

And RSG, please stop name calling, I'm gonna start deleting comments, it detracts from our lively debate :)
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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11 months ago: TLTW

She's not going to run for President, according to the rumor mill she's going to try to get picked up as VP/running mate again.

I do feel like Obama has done a few things that were ok on their own merit, but combined with the other things he has done they will prove to be disastrous. The tax cuts have helped our economy, but weakened the dollar and our financial security worldwide. The deliberate devaluing of the dollar will bring rampant inflation, and the looming tax increases will decimate our limping economy just in time for the massive inflation. If some of these changes aren't tabled quickly, it's going to be like a bird chasing it's own shadow, right into the ground.
TheLegendTomWing
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Philadelphia, PA
11 months ago: I believe the devaluing of the dollar was a policy of W in hopes that our products would be cheaper overseas. All it has really done is help corporations buy up our infrastructure. I agree it's a problem, but it's not something we can blame Obama for.
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11 months ago: Box could you tell me what Sarah has contributed?
She only ran for the VP position which is no big job and nobody practically sees them when they get that post. She didn't complete her term as Governor in Alaska. What's all the big deal? She has to find a way of proving herself to the public. It is not up to me or anyone else to say she is the right for America. She has to work for it and gain the trust back. If she can't do that, there is something to say about the voice of the people making that decision.
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11 months ago: Sunny

Nope, I can't. I haven't the foggiest idea what she has contributed, because I, like most of the people who bash her continually, haven't cared enough to find out. I only like defending her from the idiots that base their repugnance toward her on what they hear on the news or in short articles they read.

I think Palin and BO have about the same amount of experience, both have very limited hands on training. BO has a lot of book learning, but as an egghead, seems to be dreadfully short on common sense. Palin has limited education and a stockpile of street smarts and folk wisdom.

As far as proving herself to the public, that's just a matter of saying what the public wants to hear at the right time and the right place. The public has a ten minute attention span.
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11 months ago: I didn't understand because I knew you weren't a big fan.
We have to judge on her contributions, and I don't believe there were too many. At least nothing outstanding. We have kids that have accomplished more. You can't fool everyone. Holding a rifle in her hands and shooting maybe she thinks it will gain votes from the gun activists.
People do have a short attention span, but they better wake up we have too much at stake. People all around say they never pay attention to politics at all. That is why we are in this sorry place.
10 months ago: Would it come as a shock to see a Perry/Palin ticket?
The bumperstickers would only have to say...

P/P for P/VP

It works in any combination.
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11 months ago: America is digging itself in deeper and we have to worry about SP? Meanwhile worlds can collide, and she is the most important thing to talk about, unless, of course, she has the answers.
11 months ago: Sarah is cute ! lol. If we voted for our movie stars, or for our receptionists, then I would have an opportunity to cast a ballot for her!
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11 months ago: Terryeo...Ut Oh this is going to start up again.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
10 months ago: Not that I would ever vote for her, but a few things she could have done to make herself into a legitimate candidate by any definition:

1. Actually read the Constitution.

2. Understand that she cannot just use the parts she likes.

3. Actually read the Constitution.

4. Have some idea of what an intelligent complete sentence sounds like.

5. Actually read the Constitution.

6. Research things before she speaks (for example: John Quincy Adams being a founding father????).

7. Actually read the Constitution.

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