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Tea Party - Join The REAL Revolution!

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We Are The 99%
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Altruist
Eugene, OR
The Tea Party ushered in the right wing revolution. In 2010 they won elections promising to help the economy and create jobs.

Since then they have not produced a single jobs bill but they succeeded in minimizing delaying or blocking any efforts to help the economy or create jobs. They have abandoned the regular people, demanding the extension of the Bush tax cuts for the rich, which doubled Obama's budget deficit.

There was a lot of talk at first about freedom and there was concern about loosing their rights. Yes most of us in America have lost our rights, but they are not the nebulous rights the Tea Party fretted about.

The First Amendment to the federal constitution, specifically prohibits Congress from abridging "the right of the people...to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." The 99% have lost the right to petition Congress because Congress only listens to the monied powers. The Citizens United ruling allows corporations and billionaires to spend unlimited sums of money to buy politicians and purchase elections. This means the end of Democracy in America.

When the slaves were set free, Americans recognized that there was no real freedom unless citizens could support their families. That is why the freed slaves were promised forty acres and a mule. Most never received them and Blacks remained economic slaves for another hundred years.

Now there are 50 million people without jobs and without health care. These people have lost their freedom in very real ways. http://indrus.in/articles/2011/09/30/ame...

The Occupy Wall Street protests are speaking out against the loss of our freedom and democracy, against the income inequality, and against the attempts to shift the burden of paying for the debt, from the rich and powerful, who created the debt, to the victims who have been rendered homeless and jobless, because of the greed of the bankers and the rest of Wall street.

The Tea Partiers were angry and railed against imagined threats to their nebulous rights and freedoms that never materialized. The Occupy Wall Street protestors are also angry but they rail against real rights and freedoms that are being taken away. They rail against the loss of homes, jobs, dignity, and their government.

Yes the Tea Party is angry at some of the same things, but they blame the wrong people and allied themselves to the very powers that caused the problems and continue to suppress freedoms and exploit the victims. The Tea Party needs to rise up against those who have funded their movement and those who have benefited from Republican Largess. The Tea Party should turn against the exploiters and support the common people who have been the victims of that exploitation. They should join the REAL revolution.

Last week the General Assembly of Occupy Wall Street adopted a declaration of principles that will inform the new rules.

"As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies."

"As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known."

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/10...

David Morriss suggests 5 things the movement should work towards:

1. Corporations are not persons.
2. Money is not speech
3. Tax Financial Transactions
4. Tax all income as ordinary income
5. Declare a moratorium on foreclosures

I would add another demand: Fix our broken government.

To eliminate Partisan gridlock, Congress should eliminate the filibuster and have a simple majority vote about whether something should be acted on.

If Yes, then at least three proposals should be written up. One by the left, one by the right and one from independent experts who know about the issue being considered.

Then Congress would use preference voting, which would give three points to the proposal they like the most, 2 pts. to their second choice, and 1 pt. to the proposal they dislike. The proposal with the most points would win,

In most cases the centrist expert proposal would be the best for the country and would get the most points. It would be important that the experts not receive any funding from special interests to remain neutral.

It is time to change government from one designed to hinder progress, to one which can actually solve our problems and help people. This would encourage cooperation instead of competition and would return civility and democracy to the process.

We also have to get money out of government. To do that sign up at the following site: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dylan-rati...
UPDATE - 7 months ago
The right wing propaganda machine is pushing all kinds of hysterical nonsense about Occupy Wall Street.

To read and hear what is actually going on with the movement, you can get it from the horses mouth at: http://occupywallst.org/
UPDATE - 7 months ago
In the latest poll twice as many people have a favorable opinion of the Occupy movement than the Tea Party. http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/1...

Does that mean that this movement will have twice the influence of the Tea Party? Can the Occupy movement do twice the good to overcome all of the harm the Tea Party has done?
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7 months ago: Al. You statists are jealous of the Tea Party.

Keep it up. It is hilarious.
7 months ago: 1) Bush tax cuts for the rich, which doubled Obama's budget deficit?

I think Obama doubled his budget deficit.

2) The 99% have lost the right to petition Congress

Elections are held every 2 years.

3) end of Democracy in America

America is not a Democracy. America is a Republic. Big difference.

4) The Tea Party should turn against the exploiters and support the common people who have been the victims of that exploitation. They should join the REAL revolution.

Not likely when you suggest burning the Constitution.

5) Declare a moratorium on foreclosures

Why stop there? Demand all debt to be removed. Let me know ahead of time so I can max out all of my credit cards and take out a few bank loans that I can't afford.

6) To eliminate Partisan gridlock, Congress should eliminate the filibuster and have a simple majority vote about whether something should be acted on.

Once again. Burn the Constitution.

7 months ago: Holy Cow Al!
7 months ago: George W. Bush ran up the deficit to 1.3 Trillion, lost tens of thousands of jobs, started two wars, and bailed out his Banker buddies on Wall Street just like his dad did with the Savings and Loans years before. Yet there was NO Tea Party protesting what he was doing. In FACT there is NO Tea Party until after Obama was sworn into office. 8 years of Bush, no Tea Party, 1 year of Obama and the Tea Party was all over the place. Where was their concern when we were driving to the cliff, why wait until after we've gone over the cliff to sound the alarm?

We get to vote for who the rich people and their corporations want us to vote for. It costs millions to run a campaign and the regular people who send in small donations just are not enough anymore. We're not a Democracy, we are a Plutocratic Republic with a government of the rich people, by the rich people, for the rich people.

I don't recall Congress needing to have a Super Majority in order to pass any Bills before. Nor do I recall the need for a the Super Congress of 12 people who now seem to have the power. Both of which are NOT outlined in The Constitution. Let's make this simple there are 100 Senators, 51 votes is enough to pass a Bill, not a minimum of 60.

There should be a moratorium on Foreclosures because almost NOBODY has their mortgage documents any more. They don't exist, they were chopped up into CDO's. I know first hand that my mortgage is NOT held by the people I currently make payments to. I know my mortgage is in a Mutual Fund somewhere. Despite being unemployed I made my payments, and the bank refused to help me with a mortgage modification of any kind, yet the bank got 25 billion in TARP funds.

Occupy Wall Street movement is only asking to right a few wrongs and make the rich pay their fair share. They are not backed and manipulated by rich people the way the Tea Party is. They are mad at the right people for the right reasons. The 1% has been screwing over the 98% for the last 20 years or so. Now's the time for the 99% to fight back and take a stand.
7 months ago: You, like Al, try to rewrite history.

Like, the Big Blue, the Kentucky Wildcats, looked like a great football team today against the ****. You have a nice football program going there.


7 months ago: That is "Gamecocks"
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
7 months ago: Cully is 100% right.

I was a bit wrong on the Bush Tax cuts that Obama was forced to extend. They only increased Obama's deficit by 1/3rd. But it would double the projected deficit by 2019. http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3490

A temporary moratorium on foreclosures makes sense right now because the markets are saturated and there is a three year backlog. Allowing those folk to stay in their homes a bit longer till the economy recovers would keep people from becoming homeless. http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/...

Another reason to halt foreclosures is that as Cully noted even the banks who holds the note on the bundeled property. The banks have been robo-signing foreclosure documents without even reading them. http://money.cnn.com/2010/10/22/real_est...

As Cully stated the filibuster does not appear in the constitution. that is a procedural rule meant to allow the minority to protest if they are willing to continue talking without leaving the floor as in Mr. Smith goes to Washington. Used to be very rare. Now the Republicans use it for 80% of the bills plus all kinds of other procedural roadblocks.

It is the Republicans that want to destroy the Constitution because it protects those they hate.

The 99% are more like the original Boston Tea Party which was a protest against the power of the East India Company and the tax breaks the crown gave to them. It was a protest against corporate greed and for more democracy. The original Boston Tea Partiers believed government was the only thing that could control that corporate greed, and for that reason our founders strictly controlled corporate power and gave the government power to regulate them. http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/1...
7 months ago: Respectfully, Al, your and sulley's political views are EVIL.

You are what the founding fathers saw coming.

That is why we have the Constitution of the United States of America.

The federal government depriving mortgage holders of their rights to prosper and driving them into poverty?

EVIL.
7 months ago: Red, these folks are confused when it comes to the Constitution. They think it is designed to protect the many from the few. When in reality it is designed to protect the few (or the one) from the many. That is in fact the true difference in the debate.
7 months ago: I don't believe that Altruist's and my views are evil. Nor do I think that Red's and Cypress's views are evil either. Part of what holds RantRave back is people that come on here and bash other people directly when they post their opinion rather than debate them with their opinion.

I only look at the FACTS and the TRUTH, not the rhetoric and not the lies. I know that most Conservatives don't like the facts because it makes them look bad, but they are still the facts. Now in New York and several other States there are these Occupy movements designed to draw attention to the facts the same way Civil Rights and Vietnam War protests did so many years ago.

The Tea Party does not have a clue what they are protesting. I saw numerous photos of the Tea Party and it was mostly older white people wearing silly hats with Tea Bags hanging on them carry signs that about "Obamacare" that read something like "Keep Your Government Hands Off My Healthcare". The irony is that most if not ALL of these people are on Medicare, which IS Government run Healthcare.

"Obamacare" did NOTHING to hurt these people, in FACT it helped many of them by making preventative care covered and free in most cases. So why would they protest something that was actually going to help them? Why is it OK to say "Obamacare" but not "Romneycare", which it was based upon? Where are the Tea Party signs of Mitt Romney with The Joker face wearing a lab coat?

Go back and read this and it clearly shows you how we got into the mess we are in

Rant: American Are Angry: Here Is How It Happened
http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/American-Ar...

We are the 99%
7 months ago: Are you saying that "MOB RULE" is the future? While I'm asking questions. Who "elected" the chairmen which direct your "General Assemblies"? Who and how do they decide on consensus? Looks like a guess decision by the "organisers". No? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QZlp3eGM...

Like I said. The Constitution protects the few from the many.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
7 months ago: We are saying that the nation would be better off if we had actual democracy again instead of everything being sold to the highest bidder.

The founders did not trust the corporations. They believed in government for, of and by THE PEOPLE, not the corporations.

Progressives have always valued the Constitution because it protects the minority from the tyranny of the majority. It is the right wing that wants to change the constitution because it protects those the right hates. It protected the rights of women, blacks, people of other religions, and other sexual preferences.

The right wing would eliminate all of the Constitution except the 2nd and 10th amendment.
BruceDPrice
BruceDPrice
Virginia Beach, VA
7 months ago: I don't say there aren't legitimate grievances voiced in the Wall Street protests....

But the whole thing feels to me like textbook Alinski. It's what a Community Organizer, thinking nationally, does to change opinion and win battles outside of normal routes.
I bet Obama has a dozen czars, each with a huge budget, working to create these "spontaneous" demonstrations.
7 months ago: Come on Bruce. Black Political Ops? No pun intended.
7 months ago: I thought that the supporters of OccupyWhatEver, namely "anonymous", was going to crash Wall Street on the internet today. Seems like another wet dream wasted.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
7 months ago: Monday was Columbus day so the kids joined the protest Monday to watch Democracy in action. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/1...

This was one of Red's criticism of the movement. The protest started with young students - kids themselves who probably didn't have any kids, but now that the movement has caught on nationwide, it has been joined by all ages and catagories of people. The 99% who are suffering today includes 15 million children in poverty. 48% of the victims of poverty are children. and children are the fastest growing group of the homeless. 22% of Americans under the age of 18 -- and 25% under age 12 -- are hungry or at the risk of being hungry.
7 months ago: But Al. They advertised today by date. What happened to the crash of wall street on October 10? Google >>>---> Operation Invade Wall Street
7 months ago: Bunch of losers. Pissing and defecating in the streets of NYC.

They need to bring the protest to the White House and get out of downtown.

I hate politics. Can't stand the progressives; bunch of morally relativistic fools. The conservatives are getting on my nerves these days as well.

Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
7 months ago: You can tell that the 99%rs are touching a nerve because the right wing corporate propaganda machine is getting really hysterical. Glen Beck is terrified that these peaceful protestors are going to drag him out into the street and kill him.

So far there are no leaders. Decisions are made by consensus ay the Freedom Park. But it has spread to over 100 different cities with hundreds of thousands of people.

It was sad how the anger of the Tea party was channeled by the corporate propaganda machine to support their oppressors. They are supporting the ones that shipped the jobs overseas, built up the national debt, destroyed the economy and who are now preventing any economic recovery.

Now the Wall Street plutocrats and the Washington oligarchs who service them, are terrified because people are finally angry at the correct villains.

As Ralph Nader said: "the Occupy Wall Street effort gets more remarkable by the day. It carries the moral outrage and the moral authority of the vast majority of Americans who are excluded, disrespected, defrauded, unrepresented, underpaid and unemployed. The American dream has turned into a nightmare. They are taught to trust as school children, the very public and business institutions that have betrayed them, looted or drained their pensions, their tax dollars and their common properties." http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/10...

7 months ago: What is communication? Well, let's take the Tea Party. It communicated something and got elected and is still popular, some would argue, still growing. What did it communicate so that people got onboard, joined and voted with it?

There was some stuff about jobs but as Altruist said, nothing has come of it. If not jobs, then what brought people into the movement?

I believe it is and was an emotional joining. You think a political party is based on issues and the potential to pass law and change things and make life better for common people. Instead, it appears to me there is a broad, popular desire for an emotional joining. Intellect and intellectual efforts are not what the Tea Party is about. It is about an emotional joining, a reactive yearn to be part of a large effort, to be led by inspirational people who appeal to reactive stupidity. And not to reason.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
7 months ago: TCG there was a slowdown of Wall Street on Monday. It may have been a sub section of Anonymous. This group is not associated with the Occupy movement.

One section of Anonymous claimed that the announcement of the "Operation Invade Wall Street", which threatened an attack on the NYSE site, was a plant. "It is a fake planted operation by law enforcement and cyber crime agencies in order to get you to undermine the Occupy Wall Street movement," the group said in a message on Pastebin on Oct. 4.

Another section within Anonymous said on Monday that the announcement had been a "high-scale media scare tactic" to lull media and government ahead of big attacks. A third group decided to go ahead with the attack. "Even though the majority does not want the operation to happen, factions of Anonymous are going for the attack," according to a comment on the original announcement on YouTube. http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/ar...

7 months ago: I'm not sure how they found my email account. But Obama 2012 keeps sending notes. It's fun watching their tactics. Here is the latest. A direct assault on the U.S. Constitution by Obama 2012...

----------------------------

Friend --

Last night, the American Jobs Act was filibustered by Senate Republicans. There was no vote on the actual bill.

But it would have succeeded: the American Jobs Act has at least 51 votes -- a clear majority -- to pass the Senate. And a new poll shows that 63 percent of Americans support it, too.

Today the President recorded a message he wants you to see, laying out where we go from here in the fight for jobs.

Watch President Obama's video -- and pass it on to anyone you think should see it.

The Republicans who voted yesterday to block this bill weren't thinking about middle-class families. In fact, at last night's GOP debate, one of their leading candidates actually refused to say he'd extend a payroll tax cut that puts more than $1,000 in the pockets of everyday working Americans.

They might believe it's in their political interest to oppose whatever the President proposes for the next 13 months, but we know that when it comes to jobs and restoring economic security, Americans can't afford to wait.

The American Jobs Act would get to work now, providing incentives for businesses to hire unemployed veterans, helping hire tens of thousands of teachers, cops, and firefighters, and rebuilding and modernizing our schools, railways, bridges, and airports. Even though it's fully paid for and made up of proposals both parties have supported, Republicans yesterday said no.

Now the President wants you to hear directly from him about what's next.

Watch the video -- and make sure your friends do, too:

http://my.barackobama.com/President-on-J...

Thanks,

Messina

Jim Messina
Campaign Manager
Obama for America
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
7 months ago: Thanks TCG What Obama says makes a lot of sense. What is unconstitutional about asking Congress to do it's job and do what 2/3rds of the American people want?

It is unamerican and unpatriotic to intentionally harm the nation just to oppose Obama.

Getting the economy to grow is the best way reduce the deficit, because if we can get more people working. there will be more people paying taxes and less people dependent on government services.

But the Republicans don't want America to do better economically because they are afraid that would make Obama look better.

The 1% have paid off most of Congress. In fact 2/3rds of the Senate are millionaires - card carrying members of the 1% club. Why did they refuse to provide any jobs, to give every middle class family a $1500 tax cut, or to help states so they don't have to lay off teachers, firemen of police. It's because the greedy don't want to pay their fair share.

The income of the rest of the country went down 10% in the last few years but the millionaires are prospering, snapping up foreclosed homes and paying cash so they can make big bucks when prices go up again. They are taking advantage of the economic disaster to prosper.
7 months ago: Al. Ever heard of that little thing called seperation of powers?
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
7 months ago: I think the separation of powers is essential to our democracy. Bush and the conservatives didn't. They believed in the Unitary executive which was much like a monarchy.

The Constitution is very specific about The separation of powers and it is very specific about when a supermajority vote is needed. All other decisions should be made by a simple majority vote. These are the ONLY circumstances in which a 2/3rds vote is required:
Convicting an Impeachment (2/3 majority in the Senate - Article 1, Section 3)
Expulsion of a member of one house of Congress (2/3 vote of the house in question - Article 1, Section 5)
Override a Presidential Veto (2/3 majority in both the House and the Senate - Article 1, Section 7)
Ratify a treaty (2/3 majority in the Senate - Article 2, Section 2)
Passing of a Constitutional Amendment by Congress (2/3 majority in both the House and the Senate - Article 5)
Calling for a Constitutional Convention (2/3 of the state legislatures - Article 5)
Ratifying a Constitutional Amendment (3/4 of the states - Article 5)
Restore the ability of certain rebels to serve in the government (2/3 majority in both the House and the Senate - 14th Amendment)
Approval of removal of the President from his position after the Vice President and the Cabinet approve such removal and after the President contests the removal (2/3 majority in both the House and the Senate 25th Amendment)

So The Republican abuse of the Filibuster is actually unconstitutional and Obama's Jobs bill won a simple majority (At least it would have if Harry Reid had not changed his vote to a "NO" so he could reintroduce the legislation again).

So Obama's job is to convince the public which already likes his jobs bill by a 2/3rs majority , to pressure their representatives to do what they were elected to do and represent their constituents. They should represent the 99% not just the 1% who bribed them.

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