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Tar Sands and the XL pipeline

Posted 15 months ago|5 comments|498 views
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Eugene, OR
The United States now gets more of it's oil from Canada than any other source, including the Middle East. That is the good news because they are our friends and the money won't go to pay for terrorists and Maddrassas that teach hatred of America.

The bad news is that to get that oil, we are destroying the earth. The tar sands development in Alberta is the largest and the most destructive industrial project the world has seen. They are strip mining an area of Boreal forests the size of Florida, down to bedrock so little will ever grow there again. They use twice as much fresh water as the city of Calgary uses in a year and 90% of that ends up in toxic tailing ponds so large they can be seen from space. To get the oil out of the sand they use enough natural gas to heat 3 million homes. Producing the oil creates three times the greenhouse gases of regular oil.

The resultant "oil" is more like tar and needs to be mixed with toxic chemicals to get it to flow through the pipes. The developer estimated that the project would only have about seven oil spills during the 50 year life of the project, but there has already been 35 spills in the first year. The route of the XL pipeline will take it over many pristine rivers and over the Oglala aquifer, the largest source of fresh water aquifers in the world. Once spilled in a stream or river, the tar sinks to the bottom and is almost impossible to remove. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rocky-kist...

The biggest lie is that the tar sands oil will lower the cost of fuel in the United States. For one thing, this process is much more expensive than the conventional oil that they just pump from the earth so they have to sell it for more. The other thing is that almost all of it is destined to be sold overseas where the price is set by OPEC and by speculation, and will actually increase domestic fuel prices.
http://www.treehugger.com/corporate-resp...

Some people are claiming that the new Bakken oil fields in North Dakota contain eight times the oil of Saudi Arabia. The only problem is that it is not the easy clean oil of Saudi Arabia. It is oil shale that is only recovered by fracking and then heating the oil underground to get it to flow. This process is also very expensive and very damaging to the environment. http://www.greatplainsexaminer.com/2012/...

If Canada and North Dakota are determined to destroy their environments and we need the oil the oil companies should build their refineries there in North Dakota so they don't have to destroy the rest of the country with their oil spills. If the refineries are where the oil is pumped, it could be sold in the United States and will then bring costs down, instead of being shipped into the world markets where the price is set by OPEC.


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15 months ago: Good Rant Altruist,

My son works for a service rig in Alberta, and it is a messy job, that does in fact waste a lot of pristine land, and water... and like you said, if the oil was marketed locally the price of it would be a lot less. But that is why it isn't... GREED.
15 months ago: Watch it Al, you might end up like these folks...

Naomi Klein Arrested Protesting Tar Sands Outside White House
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4LqrAhpG...
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
15 months ago: Thanks Tb! Good video!
I love Naomi and I think it is very noble of her and the hundreds of others arrested. They were willing to sacrifice to save the world. There have been more than 1000 arrested so far.

The conservatives are convinced that we need to destroy the earth to preserve our wasteful standard of living for a few more years.

The simplest quickest and cheapest way to get more oil is to conserve it. We use three times as much energy as Europeans per capita. We could save billions of barrels through energy efficiency. During the last time prices spiked they came down quickly when people conserved. This time that may not happen because the production is already up and the demand down and there is plenty of oil. You are right it is just plain greed and speculation driving the prices now.

The price of gasoline will never go down again. The main reason is that there are 2.5 billion Chinese and Indians that were using water buffaloes and bicycles just a few years ago and now they all want to drive cars and use modern conveniences like tractors. The other reason is that all of the clean easy oil is gone. Oil doesn't come bubbling up like it did when the Beverly Hillbillies shot the ground. Deep sea drilling, Fracking, and tar sands was not economically feasible when gas was just $2.50, because it costs a lot to get the hard oil out of the rock. So that is why the oil companies increased the cost. As we saw with the gulf oil spill it also cost a lot environmentally.

15 months ago: I've often wondered why energy from oil seems to be preferred over green fuel sources such as wind, solar, biogas, biomass, water, etc. and the answer has always been predictability but that didn't make sense. Oil isn't always predictable and green fuel source always aren't, so what's the deal? Then it came to me in a flood of PLASTIC…
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
15 months ago: Yes plastics, fertilizers, pesticides, and thousands of other things are made from oil. There is always resistance to change.

Fossil fuels will just keep getting more and more expensive because it is disappearing at the same time that demand is exploding because third world countries are wanting to have cars and consume like we do.

The future will be with biofuels because the plants like algae and bacteria can take the CO2 out of the air and convert it into hydrocarbons without adding to the global warming. They can do everything with biofuels that they can with fossil fuels only cleaner.

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