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Swords, Plowshares and the 2nd Amendment

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BadCyborg
San Antonio, TX
There is a quote often attributed to Franklin that goes something like
"Those who beat their swords into ploughshares will end up plowing for those who kept their swords."
This aphorism is usually understood in the context of nations. That is, that any nation which completely disarms leaves itself open to being conquered by another. And I believe that such an interpretation is entirely proper and in fact is part of the reason for the prefatory clause in that amenment, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State" (NOTE: "Well regulated" in the late 18th Century had nothing to do with regulations and everything to do with proper function). Clearly the founders saw an armed populace as a last line of defense in case of a foreign invasion.

But I believe that there is another, perhaps MORE important meaning which can be derived from that aphorism. A people without arms are a people at the mercy of any armed group - whether that be a criminal gang, a local warlord or an out of control central government. In effect a group of people lacking the means to defend themselves are essentially slaves. They must "plow" (or otherwise labor) for anyone with both the means and the will to employ deadly force to get their own way.

Whenever anyone advocates disarming the general populace and giving government a monopoly on deadly force, they perforce are advocating the slavery or serfdom of that populace. That may not be their intention, but is most definitely the result. Since the criminal element will undoubtedly RETAIN their arms, a disarmed populace would perforce be subject to the will of that criminal element as well.

I seriously doubt that the folks at the Brady Foundation truly desire for the rank and file to be reduced to slavery/serfdom (I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt here) but that is the true end result of what they seek.

The real problem is that people in government are neither angels nor plaster saints. They are human beings with all the potential for both good and evil that implies. Madison putit very well in Federalist Paper No. 51
It may be a reflection on human nature, that such devices should be necessary to control the abuses of government. But what is government itself, but the greatest of all reflections on human nature? If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself.

Look at part of that again: "If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary."

Ah, but none of us are angels. All of us are human beings - at times venal, at times noble; at times unselfish at other times utterly self-centered. And we - EVERY LAST ONE OF US - can be corrupted by power. A really smart guy named Ben Moreell published a fascinating essay in August of 1997 on the "Freedom Daily" website. In his opening paragraph, Mr. Moreell wrote
"When a person gains power over other persons — the political power to force other persons to do his bidding when they do not believe it right to do so — it seems inevitable that a moral weakness develops in the person who exercises that power. It may take time for this weakness to become visible. In fact, its full extent is frequently left to the historians to record, but we eventually learn of it. It was Lord Acton, the British historian, who said: "All power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely.""
You can read the entire essay here.

I do not believe that ANY group of human beings holding such absolute power over their fellows can remain uncorrupted by such power. I even believe that some people believe that because of their own insights/education/social status/whater, they have a RIGHT to exercise total power over their "less enlightened" fellows. If those people possess the means to coerce others to follow their vision of "the way things ought to be" then unless the "less enlightened" have the means to contest that person's believed "right" then they have no choice but to go along. If one man involuntarily toils for the enrichment or benefit of another, how is that different from slavery or serfdom?

Without a "sword" anyone is potentially a slave.

As General John Stark so succinctly put it
Live free or die. Death is not the worst of evils.
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Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
6 months ago: My house always had guns in it but they were functional for hunting. The need to have other weapons is simply fear and paranoia.

If you look at the happiest nations in the world, the citizens rarely own weapons, and they are not being overrun by barbarians or having armed insurrections.

Maybe we should develop a Crayola bomb as our next secret weapon. A happiness weapon. A beauty bomb. And every time a crisis developed, we would launch one. It would explode high in the air - explode softly - and send thousands, millions, of little parachutes into the air. Floating down to earth - boxes of Crayolas. And we wouldn't go cheap, either - not little boxes of eight. Boxes of sixty-four, with the sharpener built right in. With silver and gold and copper, magenta and peach and lime, amber and umber and all the rest. And people would smile and get a little funny look on their faces and cover the world with imagination. ~Robert Fulghum

Peace cannot be achieved through violence, it can only be attained through understanding. ~Ralph Waldo Emerson
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6 months ago: So your hunting bullets wouldn't penetrate a human? Smart bullets.

BadCyborg
BadCyborg
San Antonio, TX
6 months ago: So I take it you disagree with Franklin and consider him to have been merely a fearful paranoiac.
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6 months ago: Unfortunately, far too many people believe that everything could be sunshine and lollipops if we just gave up our weapons, closed down our military, and held hands and sang cum bay ah. Robert Fulghum is one of those delusional people, spouting fallacies. The truth of the matter, is that if one country shot a crayon bomb over an invading army, that army would melt the crayons and boil the citizens in brightly colored hot wax.
6 months ago: My house always had guns in it but they were for mainting my Life, Liberty, and Property. They exist for killing communists and facists, and those who would redistribute my wealth or compel me to do as they direct.

Peace is acheived by stopping aggrssors, and killing them.
Rape is acheived by having things others want, and being defenseless.


Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
6 months ago: Peace cannot be achieved through violence, it can only be attained through understanding.
Ralph Waldo Emerson

The end of imperialism in India was achieved without arms, Apartheid was ended without arms, women's suffrage was achieved without arms, and the civil rights movement was achieved without arms.

Freedom in Tunisia was achieved without arms, and now the people of egypt are forcing the military to give power to the people without arms.

It has become impossible to give up the enterprise of disarmament without abandoning the whole great adventure of building up a collective peace system.
Arthur Henderson
BadCyborg
BadCyborg
San Antonio, TX
6 months ago: Al opined:
The end of imperialism in India was achieved without arms
True as far as it goes but, as my favorite "old fat man with a cane (prizewinning blogger Mike Vanderboegh)" put it
Had the Japanese got as far as India, Gandhi's theories of "passive resistance" would have floated down the Ganges River with his bayoneted, beheaded carcass.

Al further opined:
the civil rights movement was achieved without arms.
That, my good romantic sir, it an utterly factually incorrect assertion. In fact arms were very much a factor in the success of the civil rights movement of the 1960s.

I direct your attention to the Wikipedia article on the "Deacons for Defense and Justice". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deacons_for...

The Deacons for Defense and Justice is an armed self defense African American civil rights organization in the U.S. Southern states during the 1960s. Historically, the organization practiced self-defense methods in the face of racist oppression that was carried out by Jim Crow Laws; local and state agencies; and the Ku Klux Klan. Many times the Deacons are not written about or cited when speaking of the Civil Rights Movement because their agenda of self-defense, in this case, using violence (if necessary) did not fit the image of strict non-violence agenda that leaders like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. preached about the Civil Rights Movement. Yet, there has been a recent debate over the crucial role the Deacons and other lesser known militant organizations played on local levels throughout much of the rural South. Many times in these areas the Federal government did not always have complete control over to enforce such laws like the Civil Rights Act of 1964 or Voting Rights Act of 1965.

(more on the Deacons for Defense and Justice below)
BadCyborg
BadCyborg
San Antonio, TX
6 months ago: (continued from the previous post)
The Deacons were a driving force of Black Power that Stokely Carmichael echoed. Carmichael speaks about the Deacons when he writes, "Here is a group which realized that the 'law' and law enforcement agencies would not protect people, so they had to do it themselves...The Deacons and all other blacks who resort to self-defense represent a simple answer to a simple question: what man would not defend his family and home from attack?"[1] The Deacons, according to Carmichael and many others were the protection that the Civil Rights needed on local levels, as well as, the ones who intervened in places that the state and federal government fell short.
and
The Deacons were not the first champions of armed-defense during the Civil Rights Movement. Many activists and other proponents of non-violence protected themselves with guns. Fannie Lou Hamer, the eloquently blunt Mississippi militant who outraged Lyndon B. Johnson at the 1964 Democratic Convention, confessed that she kept several loaded guns under her bed. Others such as Robert F. Williams also practiced self-defense. Williams transformed his local NAACP branch into an armed self-defense unit, for which transgression he was denounced by the NAACP and hounded by the federal government (he found asylum in Cuba).

(concluded in the following post)
BadCyborg
BadCyborg
San Antonio, TX
6 months ago: (continued from the previous post)
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was no stranger to the idea of self-defense. According to Annelieke Dirks, "Even Martin Luther King Jr.—the icon of nonviolence—employed armed bodyguards and had guns in his house during the early stages of the Montgomery Bus Boycott in 1956. Glenn Smiley, an organizer of the strictly nonviolent and pacifist Fellowship of Reconciliation (FOR), observed during a house visit that the police did not allow King a weapon permit, but that 'the place is an arsenal." Efforts from those like Smiley convinced Dr. King that any sort of weapons or "self-defense" could not be associated with someone like him in the position that he held. Dr. King agreed.

Thus endeth the lesson.
6 months ago: Mao killed 45 million who were mostly unarmed.
Communists do that.

Hitler killed 6 million, most of whom peacefully got aboard the trains.
Socialism is like that.

There are 90,000 rapes reported in the US each year.
Violent criminals are like that.

Turkey disarmed the Armenians, and then killed over a million.
Jihadis are is like that.

The pattern is consistent: Registration w(hich snares only law abiding citizens). Then Manufactured crisis and confiscation. Then denounciation, isolation, and killing.

When someone says they want you disarmed- Understand that they mean that they want you beaten, raped, robbed, and dead. Especially coming from a communist.

Finland has more guns than people. And they are peaceful. And they defeated the Soviet invasion during the Winter War of 1938-38.

Compare that to the Ukraine in 1932-33, which was unarmed and lost 6 million to Stalin.

Switzerland is heavily armed, with service rifles in every home. And Hitler did not attack because his generals spelled it out for him.

Peace through arms.
Rape and Death through disarmament.

6 months ago: Civilians Killed by Governments in the Twentieth Century

Soviet Union (Communists) 61,900,000 1917-1990
China (Communists) 45,200,000 1949-present
Germany (National Socialists) 20,900,000 1933-1945
China (Kuomintang) 10,400,000 1928-1949
Japan (Imperial-Fascist) 6,000,000 1936-1945
Turkey (Muslims) 2,800,000 1909-1923
Cambodia (Communists) 2,000,000 1975-1979
Vietnam (Communists) 1,700,000 1945-present
North Korea (Communists) 1,700,000 1948-present
Poland (Communists) 1,600,000 1945-1948
Pakistan (Muslims) 1,500,000 1971
Mexico (Porfiriato) 1,400,000 1900-1920
Yugoslavia (Communists) 1,100,000 1944-1990
Russia (Czarist) 1,100,000 1900-1917
Turkey (Muslims) 900,000 1918-1923
United Kingdom (Constitutional) 800,000 1900-present
Portugal (Fascist) 700,000 1926-1975
Croatia (Fascists) 700,000 1941-1945
Indonesia (Muslims) 600,000 1965-present

6 months ago: Alt's politics are known. Any surprise he wants people disarmed?

Allowing people to defend their lives is not about "hunting". It is about Life itself.

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6 months ago: Well done, BC and sofa_

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
6 months ago: "The philosophy of gun control: Teenagers are roaring through town at 90MPH, where the speed limit is 25. Your solution is to lower the speed limit to 20."

- Sam Cohen; inventor of the neutron bomb

h/t http://firepowerphilosophy.blogspot.com
BadCyborg
BadCyborg
San Antonio, TX
6 months ago: Thanks for the link to "Firepower & Philosophy". Some good stuff there. BTW, I liked the Sam Cohen quote so much I am now using it in my sig at "Accurate Reloading" forum.

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