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Should Marijuana Be Legalized?

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TheLegendTomWing
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Philadelphia, PA
According to the Federal Government, marijuana has been illegal in the United States since 1937. Despite this, almost 25 million people reported using the drug on an annual basis in 2005. With such a large number of people using the drug in the United States, the potential benefits and consequences must be weighed carefully, for the wrong decision could have dire ramifications.

Dr. Jon Gettman, from the Bulletin of the Cannabis Reform, conducted a study which discussed some of the benefits of legalizing and taxing marijuana. Arrests involving marijuana account for 5.54 percent of all arrests; which amount to about 10.7 billion taxpayer dollars. According to Dr. Gettman, this, coupled with the possible tax revenue from the taxation of marijuana makes legalization an appealing alternative.

Dr. Gettman’s study computes potential lost tax revenue based on percentages of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) already collected (on average, 28.7 percent) for federal, state, and local governments. Taking into account an estimated 113 billion dollar marijuana industry that is already booming in the United States, the aforementioned governments lose estimated tax revenue totaling over 30 billion dollars annually. Fiscally it begins to seem like a plausible argument for legalizing marijuana.

On the other hand, a quick visit to the National Institute on Drug Abuse paints a different picture. According to the NIDA, the effects of long-term marijuana use on brain activity can be catastrophic, which is similar to other illicit drugs (e.g., cocaine). A few studies have even suggested a correlation “between chronic marijuana use and increased rates of anxiety, depression, suicidal ideation, and schizophrenia” (NIDA 2). Furthermore, people who smoke marijuana, according to the NIDA, are inhaling 50 to 70 percent more carcinogens than cigarette smoke (and 100 percent more than not doing it at all!) However, the validity and applications of these studies is still debated.

Upon further review, with 440,000 cigarette-related deaths each year and with 50 to 70 percent more carcinogens than cigarettes in marijuana smoke, no government with any sense would dare legalize such a dangerous substance. With all the healthcare reform issues plaguing Capitol Hill, legalizing marijuana would just lead to higher healthcare costs, more deaths, and an increased number of individuals under the influence.
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Chris D
Chris D
Seattle, WA
27 months ago: Tom,

Your federal poll numbers of cannabis users are very likely to be low, since you're asking people to admit to breaking the law.

Legalizing and taxing cannabis would create a great deal of money for individual states. For example, California's AB 390 (http://tinyurl.com/ajpgac) estimates $1 billion in tax revenue annually.

You can cite your silly NIDA studies -- which are rife with bias -- but the carcinogenic argument is defeated with just one word: vaporization. Besides, there are other ways to consume THC besides a Philly blunt, Tom. It can also be dissolved in alcohol, oils (like butter), and glycerin.

Thanks for the post. This is a topic that needs much more attention.
TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
27 months ago: Actually, the numbers of users was cited directed from a study for the bulletin for cannabis reform. I have read numerous studies that indicated inhaling ANY hot gases is horrible for you, it burns up all the cilia in your lungs. I won't bore you with the details, but it isn't good for you!
TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
27 months ago: Ahhh Siempre, thanks, the issue of rehabilitation is a whole different subject. The Florida drug courts have made a nice example for us.
Chris D
Chris D
Seattle, WA
27 months ago: Don't like "hot gasses" burning up your lungs? Eat a cookie or don't indulge.

You need to do better than the "I'm saving society from themselves" argument. Everything action in life has inherent risk. With cannabis, the rewards greatly outweigh the risks.
27 months ago: TheLegendOfTomWing - Actually... vaporization is not a hot gas - it's a cold vapor. Thanks for not boring us with uninformed details.

Chris D. - Right on. Good posts.

What this issue boils down to is prejudice and human rights. Cannabis prohibition began because of prejudice and racism against Mexican immigrants, then blacks, then hippies, now who? The majority of cannabis users are well-educated and responsible - at least the ones I've known over time.

Now we have cops prejudiced against blacks and Mexicans, and profile them as pot smokers, then act like they're criminals before they've even spoken to them. Even a long-haired white teenager I know was recently pulled over by AZ DPS and the first question the cop asked him was "When was the last time you smoked pot?" Completely unacceptable police behavior, in my opinion.

People who are anti-pot seem to fall into two categories: The first is the group that still believes the government reefer madness propaganda, lies and deceptions; and the second is the group who associates cannabis use with stereotypes that they're prejudiced against. (cont.)
27 months ago: (cont.) Those who support eliminating this utter failure of policy (and waste of billions of OUR taxpayer dollars) called prohibition seem to be generally intelligent and compassionate people who can see through all the lies and BS. Thankfully, there are more and more people like them coming forward and being open and honest about this issue.

Have you noticed that the group that supports prohibition the most is law enforcement? Do you know why? Because they stand to lose billions of dollars in tax money that our government takes from us, gives to them, so that they can harass us for no good, nor legitimate reason. Drug laws do nothing more than give police the "gateway" to abuse whomever they want to.

It is long, long past time to do away with this insane prohibitionist policy and replace it with something more reasonable and honest. The longer we wait to do so, the further into the financial toilet our country will become and the more of a police state it will become.

The most crucial aspect of this whole charade, however, is the fact that arresting, prosecuting, incarcerating, and ruining the lives of people who are doing nothing to harm others (and in the case of cannabis not harming themselves) is an elemental violation of human rights. No man has the right to tell another what they can or cannot put inside their body. Those who believe in God should see this as a violation of God's law. Cannabis is natural and it is my belief that God put it here for us to use, not only medicinally and recreationally, but for fiber, food, and fuel.

Wake up America. It's time to legalize, tax and regulate the cannabis industry and take it back from the monopoly that law enforcement and drug cartels have had over it for nearly 70 years.
Chris D
Chris D
Seattle, WA
27 months ago: CC, you just knocked it out of the park. A tip of the hat to you.
TheLegendTomWing
TheLegendTomWing
 Administrator
Philadelphia, PA
27 months ago: CC, I just did a good bit of reading on vaporizers, and found that it is not a cool gas; the marijuana is headed almost to the point of combustion. A vaporizer attempts to reduce the harmful toxins and tar associated with inhaling combusted materials. However, it does not eliminate the potential psychological issues studied with THC. I do not think marijuana should be kept illegal because of the types of people who potentially use it, or am i a member of law enforcement, I'm a college student.

It would behoove you to read some of the studies which focus on some of the nasty side effects of using marijuana. As for losing tax dollars in policing, there are many other crimes that could use some more policing, I don't see that as a plausible argument for law enforcement to want to stay illegal. However, I would argue that they would want to illegal because they have witnessed first-hand what drugs do to your brain and your life.

CC, ad hominem attacks, such as inferring I am uninformed, hinder a good debate, I suggest you avoid them. I assure you, I am not ill-informed, I have done extensive research, and have first-hand experience dealing with drug addicts.
Cody W
Cody W
Lisle, IL
27 months ago: I have a question...
If the government makes such a big deal on making marijuanna legal, then why is alcohol legal? I mean alcohol does so much more damage to your body in a short period time then marijuanna. Alcohol not only affects your brain, but almost every major organ in you body. It can also kill you or put you in a coma if you drink too much. 85,000 people die annually from consumption of alcohol. Not weed, see with weed you can consume as much as you want and you will be just fine, no coma's and no deaths. And to ask another question for you anti-marijuanna activist how many people have died from smoking weed? hmmmmmmm????? NONE!


Marijuanna only hurts your lungs if you smoke it and thats the "most dangerous" way. Marijuanna can be put into many different forms to make it not dangerous i.e, weed brownies, weed cake, vaporized, and rumors of weed strips and pills. And I guarantee all these types of consumptions will have a desided effect.
27 months ago: Tom - You wrote, "inhaling ANY hot gases" which indicates HOT GASSES inside the lungs. I was merely clarifying that the gasses are not HOT when they enter the lungs. They have cooled to room temp by the time they reach them.

As for behooving me to read anti-pot studies, oh I have read a lot of them and there are many reasons why the majority of them are incorrect or out-and-out lies. One of the reasons is directly related to who compiled the studies and who paid those folks to have them compiled - the majority of which have been done/paid for by the US government and its related branches, such as the DEA, who are all biased toward making cannabis look bad because they want to continue prohibition.

The other reason I know that anti-pot studies are loaded with falsehoods, if I may be so bold, is because of my own personal experience having used cannabis over the course of about 30 years. What better study is there? Here's what I've learned, personally, about cannabis sativa:

It has never thrust me into a state of "reefer madness."
It sometimes helps me relax after a long day of work.
It works best for pain and body aches when cooked into butter or oils and eaten.
It works best for sleeping when inhaled via vaporizer shortly before bed.
It's excellent for getting rid of nausea and/or dizziness.
After having a doctor prescribe Lexapro to me for depression and learning how horrible that chemical is, I found that cannabis was far better, with FAR, FAR less side effects, at helping me overcome depression a few years ago.
Cannabis has helped me focus on work around the house.
27 months ago: As for side effects? Here you go:
Munchies, sometimes, but not that often as I don't use more than a tiny amount at any given time.
Sleepiness, sometimes if I'm already tired. But in that case, I don't bother using it.

Do I use it daily? No. Do I use it once in a while? Absolutely. Do I tell my friends and others they should use it? Of course not. Do I think people under 21 should use it? Absolutely not. But do I think that adults should have the option to choose it over alcohol or other drugs? Absolutely, without question.

Aside from that, what more can I say? In 30 years of use and knowing many others who've used it without problems, I can attest to the fact that most of the anti-pot “studies” we see these days are designed by folks whose sole purpose is to reap the rewards they get from its illegality, e.g., law enforcement, anti-drug groups (Partnership for a Drug-Free America, etc).

The argument is moot at this point. The facts, history, proper ethics, fairness, and a growing number of people, speak for themselves. It’s time to end this hypocrisy and allow people to use cannabis without oppression. The question is no longer “should” we legalize. The question now is “how should we” legalize.


27 months ago: Tom - One last note... As far as cops having "witnessed first-hand what drugs do to your brain and your life." You're painting a distorted picture. Cops deal with CRIMINALS. And by this I refer not to the people who are made criminals by prohibition. I refer to the ****ty people who commit real crimes. Thus, their perception of pot users as criminals is completely twisted and unrealistic. Also, cops are not doctors. They are not psychologists. They are trained to ticket, arrest, and sometimes kill people committing wrongful acts against others or others' property. They are not pharmaceutical experts and have no business discussing drugs or how people are affected by them because their own perception of drug users is so completely distorted. They see the dark side of humanity, which is NOT who 99.9% of cannabis users are.

And finally, there is a huge, massive, difference between drug "addicts" and drug users. To lump everyone who uses drugs into the category of addicts is reckless and wrong. By that logic, everyone who has a beer after work is an addict.

I respect your opinion and appreciate your perspective. You seem like a smart guy, keep up the good work and best of luck to you in the future.
27 months ago: For all you heads out there who call the Bible medieval, outdated and defunct...here are some scriptures I bet you will say "AMEN" to:

Proverbs 15:17 "Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, than a stalled ox and hatred therewith."

Psalms 104:14 "He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man."

The Word is pretty hip afterall, isn't it?

Can you get to that?
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
27 months ago: The conundrum: Is weed a gateway drug, or is the illegality of weed a contributing factor?

If you could go to the local package store and pick up a pack of herbarettes, you would only be exposed to other legal substances. But if you have to go see a purveyor of illicit elixirs, you might be tempted to try something else, whatever is on sale that day. That's the one hand.

On the two hand, does the Mary Jane get old after awhile, and cause the regular user to want more of a jolt to get relaxed? Why not mix and match for your own customized experience? A little blow for extra sharpness, and a hit of the grass to take the edge off? Maybe a snort of brown tar, and a few puffs for the certain nausea?

You never know who to trust when the new studies come out, because as with all things natural, it is almost impossible to quantify them with any degree of accuracy.

http://www.4-men.org/marijuana-effects-on-men.html

http://www.echeat.com/essay.php?t=28967

http://www.mapinc.org/ctcnews/v03/n922/a07.html

http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/040818_cannabisfrm.htm
stillahippie
stillahippie
Oak Harbor, WA
27 months ago: Marijuana should be legalized I have used it for fifty years it has caused no harm in fact it has done a lot of good but the regressive powers that be need a lot of voter pressure to get the job done... http://stillahippie2009.wordpress.com/

Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
27 months ago: Our war on drugs has been going on for 50 years and we are losing the war. Drug gangs have more money and military type weapons than many of the governments they operate in. Legalization would cut the legs out from under these gangs and save thousands of lives.
In addition to marijuana, if all illegal drugs were intercepted and then given to addicts and users free if they would agree to drug education and treatment, then we would cut usage and finally start to win the drug wars.
Perfect Horizon
Perfect Horizon
Chicago, IL
27 months ago: The issue isn't whether or not it is bad for you...the issue is whether or not the government should have the right to tell people how they can and cannot harm themselves. All drugs should be legalized, not just marijuana.
Howard
Howard
Northbrook, IL
27 months ago: Legalizing Marijuana will protect our children!!
Which was more difficult to get in High School Alcohol or Pot?
Anyone I have asked has come back with the same response, drug dealers don't ask for ID. It was much easier to get pot before I was 21.
Your Response?
27 months ago: I'll try to be an adult.
You guys need to be the same.

1) Tobbaco is taxed

Your government which has been spewing the message about how bad tobbaco is to your health does not use those tax dollars levied on tobacco to "REFORM" tobbaco users.

2) HEMP - will be taxed

Do you think the pot tax will be used to "REFORM" hemp users?

Get real people. The government has been telling the public that tobbaco use is "HARMFUL TO YOUR HEALTH" for decades, while raking in all of those freedom tax dollars.
27 months ago: Valid medicinal value, it’s a victimless crime, the War on Drugs WAY too costly, too many arrests for simple possession, tax it and use the money to pay for health insurance and to reduce the deficit…Need I say more?
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RFWoodstock
27 months ago:
Drug bust at peaceful church in PA

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/03/crimesider/entry5207562.shtml

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K62rb7b6po&feature=related

I BEG YOUR PARDON AMERICA (SEQUAL THE H2O GATE BLUES)
Gil Scott-Heron
(selected lyrics)

In March of 1973 we wrote the WaterGate blues and 17 months later then
President Nixon resign. But the story didn¹t end there so we didn¹t stop
there.
We beg your pardon America
We beg your pardon because the pardon you gave wasn¹t yours to give.
They call it due process. And some people are overdue.
We beg your pardon America.
Somebody said brotherman gonna break a window, gonna steal a hubcap gonna
smoke some refer. Brotherman gonna go to jail. But the man who tried to
steal America is not in jail. Get caught with a nickel bag [Five dollars
worth of weed] get caught with a nickel bag sister lady on your way to get
your hair fixed you will do big Ben [ten years in jail].And big Ben is time,
but the man who tried to fix America will not do time. They say they gonna
slap his wrist and retire him with 800,000 thousands dollars and America was
shocked. America leads the world in shocks.800,000 thousands and the people
protested so they said ok we will give him 200,000 dollars. Everybody said
ok that¹s better. I would like to retire with 200 thousands dollars some
day. Sanquentin (Prison) not San Clemente , do not pass go, go directly to
jail do not collect $ 200,000 thousand dollars.
We beg your pardon America. We beg your pardon because some how the pardon
didn¹t sit correctly. What was the cause of this pardon' They had flea
bitetest. Rats bite us and we get no pardons in the Ghetto. They brought up
National Security but do you feel secure with a man who tried to steal
America is back on the streets again?
27 months ago: Sorry. Didn't paste the other link correctly.

Here it is.

Church of Love and Music raid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K62rb7b6po&feature=related
samidee
samidee
San Antonio, TX
27 months ago: Marijuana is actually an antioxidant and neuroprotectant. I worked for a drug treatment center for many years and I can tell you marijuana is quite harmless, even compared to such legal drugs as alcohol. The reason there is a "correllation between chronic marijuana use and increased rates of anxiety, depression, suicidal ideation, and schizophrenia” is not because marijuana causes these conditions, but because those who suffer from such mental illness tend to look toward drugs, both legal and illegal, for self-medicated relief. If marijuana were legal you would see people using marijuana in other forms than smoking, such as baking with it or brewing it into a tea. Smoking simply doesn't waste the expensive drug, expensive due to the legal risks involved in obtaining it. You stated "legalizing marijuana would just lead to higher healthcare costs, more deaths, and an increased number of individuals under the influence." On the contrary, it would actually help these issues. People would be more likely to use marijuana instead of alchol or cigarettes if it were legal. In fact, the major alcoholic beverage companies are the biggest lobbyists to keep marijuana illegal. Legalization would help the people of this nation in so many ways, if only those in control would wise up, open their eyes, and listen to those who have the experience needed to make such an important decision.

It's too bad ignorance is still in control. Perhaps the good people of this nation are finally starting to see how the many different industries who have lobbied so hard against legalization are laughing at us for keeping this benign substance illegal for so many years. Yes, they are all laughing at us...laughing all the way to the bank and we hvae merely sat back and allowed it to happen.
26 months ago: Don't know that I could add much more that what has been said. Nice post on the other side of this hot topic...Mike
FunkyHomelesGuy
FunkyHomelesGuy
Helotes, TX
24 months ago: Dude, your facts are pretty wack. The carcinogens in marijuana and tobacco/cigs are nearly identical. You seem to forget that cigarette smokers go through 1-2 packs a day, while an average marijuana smoker smokes maybe once a week, or every other week.

How in hell would legalizing marijuana cause deaths? It can't kill you. The drug is NOT a gateway drug.

Did you know there's such things as vaporizers which filter out ALL the detrimental carcinogens in marijuana? If you vape your weed, you're not having health problems at all.

And dude, why are you getting your facts from anti-drug websites? They're just stating myths that have disproven time and time again. Long-term marijuana use will not harm your brain. in fact, there've been studies on THC that say it could help stimulate the growth of new brain cells.

Get informed dude.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_myth.shtml

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