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Senator Whitehouse Can Kiss My..........

Posted 26 months ago|46 comments|457 views
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In the following article,

http://washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2009/dec/20/sen-whitehouse-foes-health-care-bill-are-birthers-/

Senator Sheldon Whitehouse calls those of us who oppose the destruction, theft and rape of our freedom and liberty racists, among other things.

More particularly, he said "...The birthers, the fanatics, the people running around in right-wing militia and Aryan support groups, it is unbearable to them that President Barack Obama should exist..."

First of all, Senator, I understand obamaramajama is 1/2 white.

Secondly, Senator Whitehouse, we really know who is a racist here.

Lastly, Senator, you and Dingy Harry, and Hillary Clinton and Obama and Barney Frank and Lieberman and the rest of you corrupt, holy, holy, holy, G-d Almighty yourself socialists who only care for your own power CAN PUCKER UP AND KISS MY LILLY WHITE YOU KNOW WHAT.

Keep on. Keep on.
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scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: They took the external link down you linked to us.
scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: I found this link..

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2009/dec/20/sen-whitehouse-foes-health-care-bill-are-birthers-/
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
25 months ago: Senator Whitehouse is merely dispensing the same medicine that the right regularly dispenses to their opponents. From my perspective, both the left and right wingers are equally adept at dishing out hyperbole charged ridicule and aren't you clever in parroting Limbaugh's 'Dingy Harry' grade school insult.
25 months ago: And Mark

You also can kiss my lilly white.................
25 months ago: What a shrew. RSG make sure to include skidmarks during the invocation of said invitation. Funnel not included.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
25 months ago: RSG,

'You also can kiss my lilly white...'

Sorry, not my kink but I'll pass your invite to TCG - he sounds experienced.
25 months ago: Funny, Smark! What is your kink? You just like to tell everyone "your a veteran" while walking all over the constitution. You might want to read it a few hundred more times so it will stick.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
25 months ago: TCG, it's you that brought up my veteran status and you're confusing the Constitution with the talk show pundit manifestos.
25 months ago: Mark.

You keep on too.

You obviously have never even considered honestly reading the Constitution. It's obvious.

Do yourself and your country a favor and sit down and read it, honestly read it.
25 months ago: Mark.

You keep on too.

You obviously have never even considered honestly reading the Constitution. It's obvious.

Do yourself and your country a favor and sit down and read it, honestly read it.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
25 months ago: And Merry Christmas to youall!
Where was all of the outrage about shredding the Constitution when Bush was actually doing it. The perceived threats to the constitution that the right has made up out of thin air will look just as silly as all of the other scare tactics, like the brainwashing of the kids that turned out to be a patriotic pep talk and all of the other dire warnings that turned into nothing but hot air.
The right has gotten to the point that you cheer every time you hear economic bad news because you see that as harming the president, and you don't realize you are celebrating people that are hurting. Whitehouse was right, the radical nutjobs on the right were willing to endanger the nation by voting against a defense bill just to oppose anything Obama.
Fortunately the world keeps turning despite the crazies dire predictions of doom and the economy is recovering and we are getting a health care bill that will be better than what we now have.
25 months ago: I'm sorry... I keep looking for anything in the Constitution that lays the burden of charity upon taxpayers.
25 months ago: Come on Al.

You liberals rewrite history too. We ****ed and moaned all we could about Bush and the scumbags in Congress.

You liberals also rewrite what is currently going on. Not once has a conservative cheered bad economic news. You made that up. It's obvious to anyone who knows the absolute basics of economics that obamajamarama and his socialists hoards are ruining our economy. BASIC KNOWLEDGE.

I get the impression you're at least trying to listen....up to a point.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
25 months ago: ...I keep looking for anything in the Constitution that lays the burden of charity upon taxpayers...

'The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence AND GENERAL WELFARE of the United States. Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; if he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it SHALL BECOME LAW.'

That's exactly how the burden of charity can be laid upon taxpayers. In the United States, we have what's called a representative democracy. The House of Represenatives has 258 Democrats vice 177 Republicans. The Senate has 60 Democrats (including the one independant who caucauses with them) and 40 Republicans. With the President being a Democrat, I'm sure you can do the math.

Perhaps if the relgious right wing GOPers weren't zealously purging the party of moderates, the Republican Party might actually be one step above politically impotent.
25 months ago: You really think that "provide for the common Defence AND GENERAL WELFARE" in context of the statement means taxes for charity? Come on, your smarter then that.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
25 months ago: No it doesn't mean charity but it's an umbrella term that certainly can cover it, or any other law that's not specifically unconstitutional.
25 months ago: BTW Mark, We live in a Republic.
25 months ago: You must think the writers of the Constitution meant something else in their writing. I do believe the word charity was a common word during the time of the writing of the Constitution. Why would they not have used the phrase "GENERAL CHARITY" instead of "GENERAL WELFARE"?

Because the term "general welfare" speaks to the welfare of the state in context of using the previous wording "DEFENCE".
25 months ago: Mark.

I said HONESTLY read the Constitution.

You are not.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
25 months ago: ...BTW Mark, We live in a Republic...

ZOMG, we don't have a monarch and James Madison didn't define a republic in terms of a representative democracy?

Do they teach civics at your faith based school?
25 months ago: "If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one...."
-- James Madison, letter to Edmund Pendleton, January 21, 1792
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
25 months ago: ...I said HONESTLY read the Constitution...

RSG, the problem is your unique definition of honestly which is to say read it through the prism of your ideology. I read the Constitution as a pragmatic realist, not as a religious ideologue. In any event, while you keep saying I need to read it, I keep quoting it and you're not.
25 months ago: Try this James Madison quote that is on record...

In 1794, when Congress appropriated $15,000 for relief of French refugees who fled from insurrection in San Domingo to Baltimore and Philadelphia, James Madison stood on the floor of the House to object saying, "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
-- James Madison, 4 Annals of congress 179 (1794)
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
25 months ago: And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in showing that religion and Government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together..James Madison

I like James Madison too but the right wing conservatie interpretation of the general welfare quote would invalidate the Constitution's directive to promote the general welfare. Madison is merely cautioning against lack of discretion, and not contradicting what he signed up to.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
25 months ago: The establishment of the chaplainship in Congress is a palpable violation of equal rights as well as of Constitutional principles. The danger of silent accumulations and encroachments by ecclesiastical bodies has not sufficiently engaged attention in the U.S...James Madison

It's too bad that the above concern by Madison was ignored in favor of unvarnished government religiosity but the quote you made regarding the French refugees is not relevant to this particular health care bill since he's referring to non-citizens.
25 months ago: Oh, I get it... The Constitution is a growing document...
Ever growing, ever changing... let's not hold the words and Federalist Papers to the meaning of the document...

Those writers by todays standards were just dung...

Nice to know how the left thinks about the current law and all documentation upholding it.

You were the one that first quoted James Madison... What now your hero is tainted?
25 months ago: You must be in need of reading glasses.

It states that he can not lay his hand on the words that allow Congress to use money for charity.
25 months ago: I guess your about to debunk your own words now, since you started the whole James Madison thought process...

Here is another nice little one to read..

"There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations."
-- James Madison, speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 16, 1788
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
25 months ago: TCG,

I never said anything about a growing document - I said your interpretation of Madison would invalidate the Constitution's directive to promote the general welfare.

As for hero, I only quoted him to help educate you on the defintions of republic and representative democracy.
I also quoted his views on separation of Chruch & State; views that the religious right wouldn't appreciate even though they quote him like he's Moses with respect to the quotes you posted.

The fact is he's but one man, he's not Moses and cherry picking and massaging some quotes to prove that the health care bill is somehow unconstitutional is laughable.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
25 months ago: ...There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations...

Oh, that's another quote employed by the neo-cons against the health care bill? Amazing! Didn't that quote come to mind when Moon Beam Bush transformed the USA into fortress America and we exchanged our freedom for the illusion of security?
25 months ago: Laughable? That is true to form and truely laughable.

So Mr. Constitution. Where is it stated in the Constitution that the public taxes can be spent on Health Care? Since it's now not a growing document.
25 months ago: How about Abraham Lincoln....

"No man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent."
-- Abraham Lincoln, October 16, 1854
25 months ago: Noe-Con? You can't do better than the dribble contrived by the DNC?
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
25 months ago: ...Where is it stated in the Constitution that the public taxes can be spent on Health Care?...

Let's not keep arguing in circles and if/when the Health Care Bill is signed into law, I suggest you mail your quotes to the Supreme Court and perhaps they'll rule that the law is unconstitutional.
Alex Layton
Alex Layton
 Administrator
 Puyallup, WA
25 months ago: Wow, this escalated quickly.

How about all the personal attack stop and stick to the topic at hand. I'll delete comments, if I need to.

Thank you.
25 months ago: I'm not quite sure how either Mark or I have defamed either one. However, I'll take a break.
25 months ago: I won't.

If the facts don't help, liberals make things up to fit into their warped little worlds.

General Welfare means "Get out of the way Government".
25 months ago: And Alex:

Senator Whitehouse started it.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
25 months ago: ...I'm not quite sure how either Mark or I have defamed either one. However, I'll take a break...

ditto
25 months ago: Mark, regardless of what the site Admins think...
This was one of the best back and forths in a long time regarding substance. Maybe they need to let it go next time until we start calling each other "B|tch".
Alex Layton
Alex Layton
 Administrator
 Puyallup, WA
25 months ago: Alright, fair enough. No one's feelings were hurt. I jumped the gun. Carry on.
scotmanster
scotmanster
25 months ago: "Where was all of the outrage about shredding the Constitution when Bush was actually doing it"

Trust me their are and was plenty of us that back up our words with action.

My outrage was their when Bush was shredding the Constitution. I even signed a petition to have him impeached..In order for it to be a valid petition you have reveal your real name.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
25 months ago: ...This was one of the best back and forths in a long time regarding substance...

Ditto

Every compulsion is put upon writers to become safe, polite, obedient, and sterile...Sinclair Lewis
25 months ago: I live in a town that Borders RI so I got to follow Sen Whitehouses campaign pretty closely. The guy is nob...the only reason he won is because his opponent was a Republican...a very left leaning one, but a republican just the same.
25 months ago: Leaning?
Maybe it is time to be straight up.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
25 months ago: Provide for the general welfare of THE UNITED STATES.

That is a totally separate entity, and does not mean provide "welfare" for the people. The three separate enitities defined in the constitution are
The United States
The States
The People

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