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Scientology's Violent Process R2-45

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Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
Today a small audio clip from a lecture L. Ron Hubbard delivered to his followers at Scientology's First Melbourn Advanced Clinical Course appeared on the Wikileaks website. In this clip, Scientology's founder gives a frightening hint of the violent nature of Scientology's proceedure "R2-45."

"Even the cops or gangsters could make a Clear out of anybody under these circumstances, by taking a Webley .38 or a Smith and Wesson or Colt or something like that and doing R2-45. That exteriorizes most anybody." (hear it in Ron's own voice in the video to the left.)

"R2" refers to "Intensive Procedure: Route 2" which is to be used "If the preclear had any appreciable communication lag, as established in the third step" of Route 1, or in layman terms, difficult cases.

"45" refers to the placement of this process within Route 2 (which begins with step 16 or "R2-16").

R2-45 is specifically mentioned in L. Ron Hubbard's book "The Creation of Human Ability: A Handbook for Scientologists" in which it is only stated that the process is "frowned upon by society at this time."

I, for one, hope society never stops frowning upon cold blooded murder in the name of an "applied philosophy".


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(Important related quotes follow, with citations so you can go to the library and see I have not taken them out of context.)

“He is Homo sapiens. He is in terrible condition taken from the viewpoint of Homo novis. …He is somewhat of a liability…”
[page 74: Hubbard, L. Ron. Advanced Procedure and Axioms. Los Angeles, CA. Bridge Publications, Inc. 2007.]

“Unfortunately, it is all too often true that suppressors to a creative action must be removed before construction and creation takes place. Any person very high on the Tone Scale may level destruction toward a suppressor.”
[page 169: Hubbard, L. Ron. Science of Survival: Prediction of Human Behavior. Los Angeles, CA. Bridge Publications, Inc. 2007.]

“There are only two answers for the handling of people from 2.0 down on the Tone Scale, neither one of which has anything to do with reasoning with them or listening to their justification of their acts. The first is to raise them on the Tone Scale by unenturbulating some of their theta by any one of the three valid processes. The other is to dispose of them quietly and without sorrow.”
[page 183: Hubbard, L. Ron. Science of Survival: Prediction of Human Behavior. Los Angeles, CA. Bridge Publications, Inc. 2007.]

“Where you spot a sudden cessation of auditing, the barring of a person from auditing or a refusal to audit, you can be certain that the person responsible for this cessation of auditing or the refusal to permit or encourage it has a selfish profit to make or is hiding something. A person like this is such a menace to himself and to others around him that auditing is much too good for him; he should be shot.”
[page 174: Hubbard, L. Ron. Science of Survival: Prediction of Human Behavior. Los Angeles, CA. Bridge Publications, Inc. 2007.]

“R2-45:
“An enormously effective process for exteriorization but its use is frowned upon by society at this time.”
[page 179: Hubbard, L. Ron. The Creation of Human Ability: A Handbook for Scientologists. Los Angeles, CA. Bridge Publications, Inc. 2007.]

“Death is not the same as clearing but there is, remember, R2-45. It's a very valid technique. A lot of people have used it before now.”
[Hubbard, L. Ron. Taped Lecture - 15 July 1958: AAC Procedure Outlined - E-meter TRs.]

"Even the cops or gangsters could make a Clear out of anybody under these circumstances, by taking a Webley .38 or a Smith and Wesson or Colt or something like that and doing R2-45. That exteriorizes most anybody."
[Hubbard, L Ron. Taped Lecture 5911c20 "Rationale of Create Series" (lecture 19 from the 1st Melbourn Advanced Clinical Course). 20 November, 1959. CA. Golden Era Productions.]

“Possibly a handful of thetans will someday become alarmed at the worries and efforts of Homo sapiens and try to throw the remaining race into a super-controlled slavery.”
[page 74: Hubbard, L. Ron. Scientology: A History of Man: Antediluvian Technology. Los Angeles, CA. Bridge Publications, Inc. 2007.]

“The sudden and abrupt deletion of all individuals occupying the lower bands of the Tone Scale from the social order would result in an almost instant rise in the cultural tone and would interrupt the dwindling spiral into which any society may have entered. It is not necessary to produce a world of Clears in order to have a reasonable and worthwhile social order. It is only necessary to delete those individuals who range from 2.0 down, either by processing them enough to get their tone level above the 2.0 line… or simply quarantining them from society. A Venezuelan dictator once decided to stop leprosy. He saw that most lepers in his country were also beggars. By the simple expedient of collecting and destroying all the beggars in Venezuela, and end was put to leprosy in that country.”
[pages 183-184: Hubbard, L. Ron. Science of Survival: Prediction of Human Behavior. Los Angeles, CA. Bridge Publications, Inc. 2007.]

“It is doubtful if the thetans will pull off the ultimate trick—simply knocking out the atmosphere of the planet—that “clears” everybody after a fashion.”
[page 74: Hubbard, L. Ron. Scientology: A History of Man: Antediluvian Technology. Los Angeles, CA. Bridge Publications, Inc. 2007.]

“…And it will happen and be allowed to happen simply because all this is so incredible that nobody will even think of stopping it until it is far, far too late. Its incredibility is its best safeguard…”
[page 74: Hubbard, L. Ron. Scientology: A History of Man: Antediluvian Technology. Los Angeles, CA. Bridge Publications, Inc. 2007.]

“Don’t get spectacular until a few of the boys make it. You don’t want to be lonesome—and you’ll need reinforcements…”
[page 74: Hubbard, L. Ron. Scientology: A History of Man: Antediluvian Technology. Los Angeles, CA. Bridge Publications, Inc. 2007.]

“Let sleeping sapiens snore in the bulk for yet a while. Then meet someplace and decide what to do about him and his two-penny wars, his insane and his prisons.”
[page 75: Hubbard, L. Ron. Scientology: A History of Man: Antediluvian Technology. Los Angeles, CA. Bridge Publications, Inc. 2007.]
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37 months ago: Scientologists: The most ethical people on the planet...
bob dobbs
bob dobbs
Geneseo, NY
37 months ago: Oh man, the scientology internet handlers have'nt show up yet, can I mount the defense? I think I know the script. Here goes,

L Ron wrote millions of words and these are just a few that have been taken out of context. Besides L Ron had a great sense of humor, so he was probably just kidding about this.
37 months ago: Where have been the internet handlers lately? I haven't seen Terryeo, Jack H Remington, DM Garry (or something similar) lately. Maybe they realized that they can't win against the final boss of the internetz.

Better yet, they could have realized that baseless arguments that fail at logic and don't old water paired up with caustic attacks against critics personal integrity don't sway many people to the scientology side.

More likely, they don't know how to respond so they are not. Or petitioning the scientology-pope to edit the texts to make them right and us wrong.
Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
37 months ago: most likely: paying for yet moar courses to get the re-hatted as internet handlers.
bob dobbs
bob dobbs
Geneseo, NY
37 months ago: There's been a bit of a spike in Scientology related articles in the past few days, the Suri schooling, the meth-cops detox, and something about Narconon wanting to expand. There can't be too many handlers who are "hatted", I bet they're deluged a bit at the moment. It might take them a few days to catch up. Unless things have changed, I think regular Scientologists are dissuaded still from confronting internet entheta.
37 months ago: They are discouraged from even viewing it, I use the word discouraged very loosely though. More like, for every entheta website page you view, you will need another auditing session.. cash register is over there ---->.
Moneen
Moneen
South Africa, Republic of
37 months ago: It is amazing how parallel the ideas of Hubbard were with those of Hitler.
Hitler & his Nazi thugs believed that his Reich were a master race superior to the presumed inferior Jews, blacks, Gypsies & criminals.
He with his band of criminal presumed superiors wanted to exterminate all inferiors.

Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
37 months ago: wow, only took 7 comments to break Godwin's Law, probably not a record but worthy of note.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law
37 months ago: So where's the endless "scientology works you're all just bigots" chatter? Got nothing to say now that we have your founder condoning murder?
37 months ago: here, i will stand in place of their internet handlers to keep this onesided comment section going.

"well....your face! So ha!"
37 months ago: Simply talking about facts, as L Ron Hubbard did, is not advocacy of a particular course of action. If you are confused by these things, they are probably beyond your current gradient of understanding.

If people can't be audited for some reason, other clearing processes can be considered.
37 months ago: "If people can't be audited for some reason, other clearing processes can be considered."

So you admit that scientology no matter what will find problems with you that need to be fixed. If its not your engrams that need to be fixed than dammit its your personality or stress levels that need to be fixed.

Thank you Jack for proving that scientology is a scam that looks for people's insecurities and problems and exploits them.
Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
37 months ago: Jack said: "Simply talking about facts, as L Ron Hubbard did, is not advocacy of a particular course of action."

L. Ron Hubbard said (after denouncing twelve people "Enemies of mankind, the planet and all life,"): "Any Sea Org member contacting any of them is to use Auditing Process R2-45." L. Ron Hubbard (1968-03-06). HCO ETHICS ORDER. No. 30 INT. Advanced Organisation Yacht Royal Scotman, via U.S. Dist. Court. S.D. of N.Y.
37 months ago: Chef, auditing is a process that is about helping. People usually have to pay for it.
37 months ago: "Chef, auditing is a process that is about helping. People usually have to pay for it." - Jack

Thats right people, scientologists believe that you have to pay money to recieve help. They will not give out their help for free like those cheapscape christians and boyscouts. You better have some cold hard cash if you want their "sincere" care and devotion from their cold hard hearts.

37 months ago: Hubbard authorized use of RJ-45 on suppressive persons. Either he condoned killing them or he was joking about a suppressive person declare, one of the most serious consequences in Scientology and something he himself wrote needed to be taken very seriously.

So which is it?
Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
37 months ago: Jack, if you think people should pay to be helped by the process of having a bullet placed in their head, you might be a member of the ruling class of China.
37 months ago: You should listen the FULL lecture of LRH not just quote one line.

Hubbard uses humor in his lectures a lot.

Unfortunately there are people who are unable to see if a sentence was a joke or not.
On the other side it is true that "The sudden and abrupt deletion of all individuals occupying the lower bands of the Tone Scale from the social order would result in an almost instant rise in the cultural tone".

What is the solution for this? Or in other words How could we decreas the mumber of those people, legally?

I suggest that all the people that are in the lower bands of the tone scale ie: "anoonymous", psychiatrist, criminals, religious bigots, suppressive persons etc etc would meet together and use the tools they have to "treat" others amongst themselves!

So the psychiatry would drug and elictricshock all the attendees, "anonymous" would just use "covert hostility" and alter all the communications, religious bigots would just accuse all the rest of following the wrong religion etc etc.

So after one months we would have left in the society only people who really want to improve and rise to higher states as beings.
37 months ago: Frank,

If it was used as a joke in a lecture, why was it used in an order from Hubbard announcing various people were now SPs for high crimes? The one that Chef Xenu quoted above? Was that also a joke?

An entire memo filled with stuff telling people that these people are evil and committed a great offence against Scientology. Then he threw in a PS: Shoot them in the head! Just Kidding!!

The context of that memo does not read as a joke. It reads as various serious in the sense that it is telling Scientologists that these people have been excommunicated from Scientology. At what point was it decided "hey, lets throw down some inappropriate jokes against people we're throwing out of the church"?

I mean seriously man, go read the memo that Chef Xenu quoted. The whole thing (if Scientology won't help you out, let me know, I'll find a link to it for you). There's not an ounce of humor there. Nor should there be as it's a god damn excommunication order.

That would be like a priest excommunicating someone from the catholic church and then in the process of doing so throwing in a "PS: Good Christians should crucify these people for their crimes against the church... JUST KIDDING!!" a joke has no place in something as serious as an excommunication order, so why would anyone read that and think it's a joke?
37 months ago: "On the other side it is true that 'The sudden and abrupt deletion of all individuals occupying the lower bands of the Tone Scale from the social order would result in an almost instant rise in the cultural tone'." - Frank G.

Ok, I know, Godwinn's rule, the longer a thread goes on, the more likely it is that someone will mention Hitler and Nazis. Time to prove it true.

So FrankG, thank you for admitting that the scientology considers itself the elites on this social scale and the world would be better off if those that you call inferior would drop dead. This is basically the logic and ideology behind Hitler's Nazi Germany; the Aryans were superior to the inferior races around them and the best way to solve social ills they had was to eliminate the jews who were inferior.

BRB, time to show the world that scientology wishes to eliminate their social inferiors, leaving only the elites to rule.
37 months ago: Ha, no guys, us Scientologists are just regular people like everyone else. R2-45 is an unused and socially unusable "procedure" that Hubbard mentioned to illustrate a concept. No threat was every stated or implied. And it is amusing as hell that anyone would think of that as a threat. Lol, funny.
Chef Xenu
Chef Xenu
Columbus, OH
37 months ago: Ha, no Terryeo, us critics can read as well as everyone else. R2-45 is an actual Scientology process that Hubbard mentioned to control people. A threat was clearly stated and implied when he declared people "enemies of mankind" and then ordered Sea Org to use R2-45 on those people if they were encountered. Not funny!
37 months ago: Terryeo, Hubbard himself wrote that an SP declare is a very serious thing and never to be taken lightly. He later declares a number of people suppressive, then orders R2-45 for anyone encountering them.

Either Hubbard was disregarding his own policy and joking around while essentially damning these people to an eternity without Scientology (literally the worst punishment you can give according to Scientology) or he was flat out condoning the murder of these people.

Which is it?
37 months ago: And if you claim said memos do not exist you can bet I'll be following you around on rantrave/elsewhere posting copies of them until people who have never HEARD of you know you're lying.
37 months ago: I claim that you amuse me. Hahahaha.
37 months ago: I claim that you are crazy Terryeo.
34 months ago: Same old same old tactic from these scientology handlers. Attempt to squirm, and then when they've failed completely, just say "ha ha you amuse me" etc.

Terryeo, you are fail, and your cult is fail. Quit apologising for a murdererous, pyschotic cult.

Or is the cognitive dissonance that you've wasted your life on this criminal claptrap too much to bear?

34 months ago: Btw Terryeo, here's a little cognition for you:

The reason your job "handling" (fumbling?) critics is so hard is that you're fighting a battle you have no chance of winning. You position - that scientology works and helps people - is a loss leader. You've lost from day one. Is this what you thought you'd be doing when you joined scientology? Lying on the internet for a cult?


The internet: Aren't we a evil little cult then?
Scientology: THE INTERNET OH SHHII--

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