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Scientology's Mr Miscavige Set to Sue

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One of the world's most respected humanitarians, Scientology leader, Mr David Miscavige, has been grossly defamed by one of the world's worst scandal rags, the St Petersburg Times, and one of the world's most unethical websites, Gawker. Sources report that the Church of Scientology is expected to immediately file defamation action to protect the reputation of its ecclesiastical leader, and the Church itself. The damages sought are likely to be in the order of over 800 million dollars US.

Mr David Miscavige is regarded by many as the one of the great living men, because he is the inspirational leader of the only religion with workable and recognized technology, and he has personally provided it to billions of people at pretty much no cost. Yet, the St Petersburg Times, a scandal sheet distributed across hundreds of jurisdictions on the internet, has bluntly painted him as a liar and abuser who beats his subordinates. This is clearly defamatory, because the allegation is provably untrue.

“Scary Insane Psychopath”

Also, the website www.gawker.com labeled Mr Miscavige as “a scary insane psychopath.” Is this defamatory? Of course it is defamatory. It is the most defamatory statement ever made in the history of defamation. The defamatory “reports” have been read, all over the world, in hundreds of different jurisdictions where the reputation of Mr Miscavige, the Church, and all Scientologists in good standing, have been attacked.

There are no ifs or buts - the St Petersburg Times and Gawker have clearly gravely defamed Mr Miscavige.

Will this stand?. No. No decent person could let this huge defamation stand, not least the Church of Scientology. The Church will not be vindicated and the taint will remain until the Church is factually vindicated by a commensurately huge damages payout. Failing to pursue this lawsuit is not an option. Failing to pursue it would amount to an admission that the imputations were true, in the eyes of the public.

Momentous Advance

Although Mr Miscavige, Scientology spokesman Mr Tommy Davis, and Lawyer Ms Monique Yingling all handled the St Petersburg Times “journalists” flawlessly and correctly, the rubbish-rag paper unethically still went ahead with the “story”. The St Petersburg Times denied Mr Miscavige a right of reply to their lurid stories before publication because Mr Miscavige did not have time to speak with their so-called journalists because he was preparing the single most momentous advance in the history of Dianetics. Even so, the newspaper still had the audacity to continue to propose interviewing Mr Miscavige, after publication.

The “journalists” were clearly informed that the whole storm in a teacup was not a question of did the abuse happen or not, but it was a matter of “something else happened”. Clearly this is a concept beyond the comprehension of the dunderheads at the St Petersburg Times.

Freedom

Mr Miscavige has now chosen to exercise his right of reply in a great article he authored in one of the world's foremost journals of investigative journalism – Freedom. Freedom is the journal responsible for breaking the story behind John F Kennedy's assassination and uncovering many abuses in the psychiatric and pharmaceutical industries. In the latest edition of the Magazine, Mr Miscavige exonerates himself and makes devastating rejoinders against the so-called St Petersburg Times journalists, the Muck Raker and the Wad Shooter.

Scientology Can't Lose

Freedom magazine revealed that the newspaper's defamatory statements were patently not made in good faith or in the reasonable belief that they were true. The statements exhibited actual malice in that they were published with reckless disregard as to whether they were false or not. The statements imputed moral turpitude to Mr Miscavige in that they described him as partaking in conduct contrary to community standards of justice, honesty and good morals. This reckless conduct makes the publication actionable, without even requiring Mr Miscavige to prove he has been defamed.

Indeed, there has never been a more plainly wrong or most grave defamation in the history of the existence of defamation.

To defend itself, the burden will be on the St Petersburg Times to prove the truth of its defamatory claims. Mr Miscavige does not have to prove anything in order to win this case. It will be a walk in the park with a big, fat defamation check waiting at the end of it.

Grave Stain

Without pursuing this defamation claim, this grave stain on all of Scientology, on the work and technology of Mr Hubbard would forever remain. Don't imagine for one microsecond that Mr Miscavige will even entertain a thought of not vindicating Scientology in the courts. As Freedom reported:

“That the S.P. Times sources would accuse Mr. Miscavige of the very misdeeds they themselves committed is not only an injustice, it's also a crime. For to slander a man of greatness and good wIll is to slander what is great and good in all of us.”

Indeed, it would be a crime for the Church not to pursue this defamation action, correct this crime for all of humanity, and put the substantial payout to work in order to disseminate the tech, and put the Bridge in reach of everyone.

What is more, the “paper” falsely claims that Scientology acts vindictively against critics by using private information given in confidence. That false imputation can not stand, either.

Rats

The defamatory story was based on the breathless confessions of a whole cornucopia of ex-Scientology rats who have recently come out of the woodwork. Rats like the Kingpin, the Adulteress, the Fact-Checker, the Joker, the Riddler, the Mud-licker, the ****-chafer, the Kinky Strangler, the Whipsaw, the Whole-Track Prison Warden, the Lunatic and others. As Freedom magazine pointed out, these people predominantly live in pathetic houses, nothing like the grand columns and stately residences fit for real Scientologists. Fact Checker was, in fact, the Kingpin's primary punching bag-which makes their present relationship all the more kinky. As Freedom revealed in another context, the Kingpin actually had things inserted in his private regions.

As Freedom reported, even the ex-wives of these psychopath liars, still current Scientologists in good standing, were willing to stand with Mr Miscavige and also truthfully speak out against their former husbands' incompetence and high crimes against Scientology.

Legal Advice

Top lawyer, Ms Monique Yingling, is not a Scientologist, but has frequently had to repair the damage done to Scientology by former Sea Organization incompetent psychopaths like the Fact Checker and the Kingpin. As with Fact Checker, Attorney-client privilege would prevent Ms Yingling testifying against her employer, yet Ms Yingling told Freedom that she is willing to even beyond that duty and take a personal stand in the interests of her client by testifying from her personal knowledge that all the imputations against Mr Miscavige are factually false, that Mr Miscavige never beat anyone, and that the people who say he did are all liars.

Evening the score

The critics are hoping that Scientology and Mr Miscavige will go into hiding. This would prove to them that Scientology is weak and not explosively expanding.

Freedom Magazine has invited those who have been capriciously targeted by the St Petersburg Times: public servants, community leaders and members of the business community to help Freedom in its stand against the SP Times.

Of course, Scientology will win and the SP Times will lose. Stand with Scientology, with Mr David Miscavige, with Ms Monique Yingling, with Mr Tom Cruise, with Mr John Travolta, and against the St Petersburg Times.

Counting the Days of the SP Times

It is just 43 days since the St Petersburg Times commenced the most flagrant defamation of a person in American history. Start counting the days before they face the explosion of this devastating defamation suit.

Check out www.freedommag.org
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Frederick
Frederick
Canada
34 months ago: I come to a much simpler conclusion. You have been taken.
34 months ago: See, this right here...THIS is humour. "Gravy Stains". Gotta love it. Gosh darn, this is funny stuff....
MikeMercer
MikeMercer
Glenn Dale, MD
34 months ago: Thank you Jack. The very fact that so many people refer to David Miscavage as "Terror midget" or "Tiny Tyrant" or "Pocket Hitler" should be explored in court. I am looking forward to Scientology's response.

DeanFox
DeanFox
England
34 months ago: Jack J Remington, David Miscavige daren't sue because he knows that he performs badly in court and under critical scrutiny. In short, which he is, David Miscavige is scared.

You and Terryeo really need to re-visit your understanding of reality. Aside from your organisation, the one calling itself the church of scientology, being geared up to turn people in to rabid robot recruiting machines, you need to see that even by your organisations' rules Miscavige is nothing more than a squirrel; he's changed the tech twice (1991 and 2007) and both times claimed it to be true and on source.

Anonymous is fact checking both sides of the story and guess where all the lies are coming from. Lies supported by poorly edited pictures, changed text, "lost" web pages, inconsistent time lines and accounts.

Fact is your organisation operates not unlike the Orwellian Ministry of Truth, rewriting history to suit its own ends. Fact is your organisation is not very good at it and is being caught out time and again by independent scrutiny.
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
34 months ago: It's hilarious how the likes of Terryeo keeps making reference to things we know to have been falsified by your organisation for its members to swallow. Things like the number and nature of commendations the organisation has received. The organisations "growth". The success of events. We have analysed pictures of new ideal orgs been opened and seen where crowds have been added to pad out apparent numbers. We have sent people round to the buildings to photograph their actual dilapidated and boarded up (empty) state.
34 months ago: The founder of The CULT, Elron the Con, used to 'erase' his memory when reality didn't suit him.

Elron the Con was married at least three times.

When asked about his second wife, he replied, "I never had a second wife.".

This is the level of dishonesty that regularly comes from the Predatory Evil $pace Alien Mind Control CULT.


xenubarb
xenubarb
San Diego, CA
34 months ago: Woo...such a revealing article, Jack Remington! That Freedom Magazine was a veritable cornucopia of creepiness; from the photos of people's homes, to demonstrating that your cult was following people to the beach and out to dinner, to the ridiculous use of Batman-style names for your enemies to the weirdly crude terms like "shot their wad."

Fine way for a religion to behave! The cognitive dissonance needed to state the following is also revealing, "What is more, the “paper” falsely claims that Scientology acts vindictively against critics by using private information given in confidence. That false imputation can not stand, either."

Oh, it will stand. The entire article was littered with information culled from these people's folders! Some of these people were in for 35 years; if they were so terrible, why were they allowed to reach such high office within the "church?" And why is it you are just now retreating into sputtering indignation over the kind of people Scientology allowed at the top of their organization?

There won't be any lawsuits from Miscavige. The lawsuits are from the people Freedom Magazine defamed. Forced abortions, beatings, deprivation, these are charges brought by Marc Headley and his wife. Your organization would have been better off just keeping your mouths shut. But no, you had to unleash 80 pages of pure Scientology insanity on the Clearwater community, most of whom would like Scientology to leave their little corner of paradise.

And now, more people have come forward to tell their stories to the SP Times! What cute little names will you assign them? The Joker? The Riddler? Mr. Freeze(zone)?
xenubarb
xenubarb
San Diego, CA
34 months ago: So Jack, do you yourself live in a "stately house fit for a real Scientologist?"

And how are you going to spin this when the videos of Miscavige abusing his subordinates are leaked? Will you just claim they were manipulated, or will you finally wake up and smell the bacon?

xenubarb
xenubarb
San Diego, CA
34 months ago: Aww nuts.

Well played!
34 months ago: DeanFox, you are about as wrong as anyone has ever been in the history of wrongness.

Scientology is opposed to roboticism and suppression.

David Miscavige is the consummate communicator. Mr Miscavige is the master of the podium and a compelling witness.

The Tech hasn't been 'changed' as you put it. The errors of typists etc have been corrected. It is the so-called "free zone" that is squirreling the Tech.

"Anonymous" nit-picking "fact checking" is worthless and irrelevant.
34 months ago: barb, I live in a very upstat house, thank you very much, not like the shacks, shoe boxes, and cockroach pits that snivelling apostates tend to live in.
34 months ago: BTW, MikeMercer, if there were any support for those slanderous statements, do you think the entirety of the Church would be standing beside Mr Miscavige and supporting his work? This includes the entire management of the Church and people who know Mr Miscavige better than anyone such as Tom Cruise and John Travolta.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
34 months ago: You piss off Slappy Miscavige and you'll have a bad case of facepalm.
34 months ago: barb, you call it 'pure Scientology insanity". In actual fact it was checked by non-Scientologists, including top lawyers, who confirmed it would make perfect sense, even to a non-Scientologist.
34 months ago: And you can be sure that Dr Iva Ryggestahl, Dr Adly Abu Hajar, Dr Gunnar Bramstang and Dr Bertil Perrson would not knowingly be lending their names to what you describe as insanity.
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
34 months ago: Jack, David Miscavige daren't sue simple as that because it would take him out of his comfort zone, the fuzzy, woolly blanket of his cult enviRONS.

Sure David Miscavige has become drunk on the powerful position he's in within the cult but he's not become completely delusional like Hubbard did towards the end. He knows he's a paper tiger and that in the real world where people don't hang on his every word he'd be shredded.

We've all seen David Miscavige's floundering in his only TV interview he just goes all to pieces; he can't even keep his written statements consistent, something that will likely come back to haunt him one day.
34 months ago: I have not heard of the COB filing for a defamation lawsuit against the SP times. Is this any proof to this other then from your own handwriting?

If this is from your own handwriting, I can assure you you're very out of line and will be causing downstats for fabricating these lies.
34 months ago: You think the IRS isn't in the real world, DeanFox?
34 months ago: You can count on it, ScientologyLover87.
34 months ago: Yes, I can count on you being given a sec-check soon.
34 months ago: In response to the statement that one of the methods the Church of Scientology uses to attack critics is by suing them, the Church denies it...then declares it will sue the St. Petersburg Times?

Look, if someone accuses you of eating the last doughnut, at least wipe the powdered sugar off your lips and fingers before denying it.

And I'm with this ScientologyLover, person. There's been no official announcement that I've seen in the press, or even on the official website. That leads me to conclude you're lying Jack. Very unethical.
Frederick
Frederick
Canada
34 months ago: And they wonder why we say Scientologists are brainwashed?
Frederick
Frederick
Canada
34 months ago: Can you imagine what would happen if only one high ranking American politician came forth and said that Obama had knocked him around? How about if two came forth with similar stories?
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
34 months ago: Jack: I wouldn't use the IRS as a yard stick in this matter.
David Miscavige is scared. We know this because he insists on throwing his lackeys in to the fray and whining at their failures. We know that either he's truly delusional (like Hubbard at the end) or deep down he knows he'd fair no better and probably a great deal worse than them.

Great leaders like Churchill get it right, they make things happen. They do it up front, in public and with resolve. They get real results. They win wars and inspire people. Miscavige is more like Saddam Hussain, although to be fair to Saddam he played some very clever power games in his own country to maintain his position and it wasn't all just fear.

David Miscavige fails to get it right, he fails to make things happen. All he can do is buy more buildings and publish more DVDs, CDs and books and claim that is growth. You need only look at how growth is summed up in Freedom Magazine; a page of stats basically saying we've printed more books in more languages and bought a whole bunch more buildings. Where are real stats like actual membership figures? Oh, no one measures that "of course!?".

David Miscavige fails because he gives irrational orders and then has tantrums when it all goes pair shaped. He could not stop people protesting outside Golden Era Studios for instance, yet he whines because New York can't stop protests there; he's just as bad - worse in fact because Anonymous had him move all the fencing back and clarified all the property lines as punishment for being naughty. At least New York were spared that embarrassment.

Anonymous is at cause, Miscavige is at effect and dances to our tune; our game of musical chairs is far more lulzy though. Use to be the only way to win was to not play but Miscavige is beyond that stage now.
34 months ago: The $cilons can flap their gums all they want.

It falls under the category of 'fools foolin' fools'.

It's just a matter of time.

The Predatory Evil $pace Alien Mind Control CULT is done.

Good bye. Good riddance.

Of course, there will always be another scam to take it's place.
Frederick
Frederick
Canada
34 months ago: Jack, you know that we disagree across the board on Scientology. But this one line in your column is really, really sick, and I would never ally myself with any organization or an individual that saw this as important:

"As Freedom magazine pointed out, these people predominantly live in pathetic houses, nothing like the grand columns and stately residences fit for real Scientologists."

You, and perhaps the editors of Freedom Magazine have no class whatsoever, no matter what kind of houses you live in.

May I add that my own accomodations have improved dramatically since leaving the "thriving cult of greed and power".
34 months ago: AnonymousVoice, Mr Miscavige has stated that this defamation is a crime against all that is good in all of us. To not vindicate Scientology and Mr Miscavige in court would be an even greater crime. Just publishing critque of SP Times, rather than being vindicated in court means nothing in the big scheme of things - anyone could do something like that, right or wrong. The SP Times statements are clearly defamatory, so Mr Miscavige can't lose. Case closed. If you think that any Scientologist, let alone the Sea Org is going to back down from something like this you must be dreaming.
Frederick
Frederick
Canada
34 months ago: Let's see what happens Jack. Consider it a test for your control, knowingly and at will, of time.
34 months ago: DeanFox, being loyal to Mr Miscavige when all the traitors are deserting, like Mr Davis and Ms Yingling, does not make them lackeys. And while you are on WWII, don't forget General Patton. He was accused of hitting people, but he won the war.
34 months ago: You won't have to wait long, Frederick.
34 months ago: Frederick, if high-ranking politicians said that Mr Obama had been knocking them around, I would be pretty sure that all the accusers were psychotic.
xenubarb
xenubarb
San Diego, CA
34 months ago: I think Jack Remington is the most awesome troll evar! Because I usually don't get jacked by trolls, and he did it.
34 months ago: Maybe you all of Scientology is trolling you, barb.
34 months ago: $cilontology is, indeed, trolling. Everyone it can.

$cilontology is a complete predatory scam founded by a sociopath.

All the spinning, twisting, double talk, etc. won't change the fact that Karma is in action.

$cilontology pulled in all it's current trouble and has already laid the foundation for it's own demise.

Bye. Bye.
Frederick
Frederick
Canada
34 months ago: Jack, you communicate with snappy comebacks rather then thoughtful answers. You completely ignore many statements that are difficult to confront. You said to me:

"Frederick, if high-ranking politicians said that Mr Obama had been knocking them around, I would be pretty sure that all the accusers were psychotic."

How about this Jack. Let's say a woman accused one of your presidents of using his former office of state governor to pressure her into sex, when she was a state employee. Would you call her trailer trash and a prostitute? That would dead agent her but good. Then, what if others showed up saying the same thing?

How about this? What if a senior aide to the president stated under oath that the president himself was aware of many serious crimes that were committed by his senior staff during his campaign for re-election? The president not only did nothing about the crimes but encouraged obstruction of justice.

Now, it would be convenient to call Paula Jones and John Dean psychotics but they were telling the truth. One president was impeached, one resigned under pressure AFTER THE FACTS WERE EXAMINED. It is not enough to say Nixon was innocent because he achieved peace with China or that Clinton was OK because he fixed the economy. You had to examine the available information.

I am not going to phone Jenna Elfman. Get serious. I don't even have her phone number and I don't think you do either. But I am going to wait as more and more information comes out. Frankly, at this point, I find the evidence against Miscavige overwhelming. Previous statements about Miscavige's violence, before any of this broke, were compelling.

Frederick
Frederick
Canada
34 months ago: I hope this results in legal action and that Miscavige is convicted if that is what he deserves. I further hope that the cult implodes, this being the straw that brakes the camel's back. I hope that you will come to your senses, say, "I guess they were right", and henceforth spend your time and money on things that will really help yourself and your community instead of your being mired in delusions. But I don't expect any of those things to happen YET. What I do expect is that people will read my statements (and those of the other people here), and your statements, and decide that they don't want anything to do with the cult of Scientology.

I am pretty sure that this discussion, as well as your misguided essay, will produce that effect. At this point 288 people have visited this site. I'm hoping for 1000.
34 months ago: Presidents Nixon and Clinton were basically elected politicians. Politicians sometimes abuse their power and do the wrong thing. So what? That has nothing to do with Mr Miscavige or Scientology. It is not really fair to try to drag an appointed religious leader down to that political level, as you try to do, Frederick.
Frederick
Frederick
Canada
34 months ago: Jack, initially, though Obama is also an elected politician, you thought that if he was accused by two high ranking politicians of "knocking them around" you would assume the accusers to be "psychotic". Now you say that we can't bring an appointed religious leader down to a politicians level. You are distorting the point and deflecting the argument. Can't you just say, "Yeah, I see you're point. I get it. I was wrong." This is why guys like me call guys like you brainwashed.

You call Miscavige an appointed religious leader. I call him the appropriator of L.Ron Hubbard's fraud.
34 months ago: "In reality the church is a hugely profitable global racket that
survives by intimidating members and critics in a Mafia-like
manner. [...]Eleven top Scientologists, including Hubbard's wife,
were sent to prison in the early 1980s for infiltrating,
burglarizing and wiretapping more than 100 private and government
agencies in attempts to block their investigations.

[...]Scientology has brought hundreds of suits against its
perceived enemies and today pays an estimated $20 million annually
to more than 100 lawyers.

One legal goal of Scientology is to bankrupt the opposition or bury
it under paper. The church has 71 active lawsuits against the IRS
alone.

[...]'In my opinion the church has one of the most effective
intelligence operations in the U.S., rivaling even that of the
FBI,' says Ted Gunderson, a former head of the FBI's Los Angeles
office.
An Observer
An Observer
Garrettsville, OH
33 months ago: http://www.mediacurves.com/Religion/J7477-Scientology/Index.cfm

Any Questions?
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
33 months ago: Observer, I imagine Miscavige's lieutenants will be hiding that media curve graph response from their boss lest they have to submit to a ballistic slappy attack.

What the graph proves is that Scientology represents the exact opposite of the social goodness that the video portrayed before the Scientology logo appeared. It would be no different than showing a video of environmental green goodness and concluding it with a logo of the Shell Oil Company.

The Scientology ad is a visual oxymoron and fortunately the public realizes that Scientology represents a blood sucking pariah. An epic win for those who have worked tirelessly to expose the cult for what it really is.
Mecca  Anon
Mecca Anon
Clearwater, FL
33 months ago: Hey Jack;
I agree with you! I think the Freedom Magazine article was utterly fascinating! I’m sure it will become a keepsake in my household. I’m really hoping that your wonderful organization Scientology keeps telling their side of the story, when you compare it with the Saint Petersburg Times’ piece you can see quite clearly that they don’t match up very well.

As a matter of fact it’s almost like they are telling two completely different stories! It’s puzzling and I puzzled about it for a moment.

Jack, I hope you and all of your buddies down at OSA keep up the good work! No really! You should do an entire Freedom Magazine series – a huge mono exposé on all of the terrible – horrible – monstrous CRIMES that have been committed against the happy, peace-loving Scientology religion. Wanting only to help pull Humanity out of the mud, they have been beset by vile suppressive persons who tell lies and try to destroy the only hope for mankind!
Keep up the good work! I’ll be looking for my NEXT edition of your wonderful Freedom Magazine so I can know the TRUTH!
33 months ago: Yep. There is quite a difference between what the $cilons claim and...reality.

More and more and more and more...the public is becoming aware of what the $cilons are.

It's only a matter of time.

All scams fall apart.

This is the information age. The Age of The Internet.

Elron the Con's evil CULT scam can't stand up to scrutiny or against the overwhelming force of readily available information.

The internet has doomed The CULT.

Good riddance.
33 months ago: Yes, more and more, the public becomes aware of Scientology. This is because the Church is prospering. Scientology.org's website traffic is up 100s of percents while critic websites remain mired in a mud of lies and deceit.

Through education and associated activity, people improve their lives in Scientology. And that quantity of people is increasing.

The difference - Scientology's technology includes an understanding of the critic who sees all large organizations as a threat, who sees all religion as a threat. And includes the critic who seeks to destroy the things he sees as threatening.

Oswald, for example, can not even use common language when talking about what he knows, but is self-constrained to "buzz words", picked from the 4channel teenybabble. It is a sort of snobbery, do you see? A specialized language to put everyone who doesn't agree with you, out there, and separate from yourself. $cilons = evil, powerful beings who would love to find Oswald in a dark alley. Oswald, even though you make the utmost effort to separate yourself from others, the same information is available to you as to anyone else. You too could do as DeanFox says he is doing, studying the information which comprises Scientology.
33 months ago: There were plenty of Nazis that never did renounce the horrible things done in the name of the Third Reich.

Just as there are plenty of $cilons still clinging to the delusion of their Fourth Reich.

$cilontology is a scam. Anyone that has half a brain and is not HYPNOTIZED knows that.

$cilon web traffic can be up by the use of RPF slave labor 'cooking the books' and/or because more and more people are becoming aware of the scourge that is $cientology.

The SP Times did a great expose of exposing the $cilon fuhrer beating his staff.

That story got plenty of hits on the $cilon site.

During the last days of the Third Reich, there were newscasters in Berlin that promised victory. There were supposedly miracle weapons coming. And phantom Nazi armies were supposedly all over.

They sounded like you, Terryeo.

Stay deluded if you like.

Believe in your deluded fuhrer until the end.



Or...you may just want to cut the cra*.

Blow. And start on the road to becoming a real person.

Almost no one stays with your CULT. They all find out it's a scam and then leave.

Be smart. Blow. And then have a good life.

33 months ago: Here's some interesting quotes from your original fuhrer:


"Now we say there's, well, another place in the world-there's India. Wonderful place - except for its people."

- L. Ron Hubbard, "The Control of Hysteria" (lecture), 15 April 1957


"They smell of all the baths they didn't take. The trouble with China is, there are too many chinks here. "

- L. Ron Hubbard, personal journal, 1928


"Don't break your back scrubbing floors. Get yourself a nigger, that's what they were born for."

- L. Ron Hubbard, in a letter to his 2nd wife
33 months ago: "They sounded like me"? Hahahahah, get some space, Oswald.
33 months ago: What if $cilontology made a Truthful Video?

http://paidpublishing.com/what-if-scientology-actually-made-a-truthful-infomercial/
33 months ago: Even Rinder and Rathbun FINALLY had the sense to blow.

They were both around your CULT scam for far longer than you and knew you current fuhrer personally for many years.

They both were way higher up in the crminal organization than you and, even they, had to admit it's all a scam.

They blew. Now, how about you?
33 months ago: You have taken LRH's words out of context regarding India, amongst other things Oswald2001. LRH was condemning Indian philosophies that are oriented in the direction of slavery. This might be why Scientology is gaining great ground in freeing people from Indian slave philosophies.
33 months ago: "Scientology.org's website traffic is up 100s of percents while critic websites remain mired in a mud of lies and deceit. "

The primary protest discussion website, http://www.whyweprotest.net, has seen a 400% increase in traffic in the trailing three months without any form of advertising campaign. We don't even NEED to advertise and more people just keep showing up.

"And that quantity of people is increasing. "
You're a proven liar in these arguments, provide proof to back up your claims. We say your membership is declining and point to countless photographs of empty org buildings. Ergo, we have proof. Our claim wins.

"Oswald, for example, can not even use common language when talking about what he knows, but is self-constrained to "buzz words","
You suffer from the same malady, Terry. You routinely use words which Scientology has mocked up definitions for that are more suitable to its purpose, and then claim WE are the ones lacking understanding about your made up babble. You're now also a hypocrite in addition to a liar. Keep talking, lets see how unethical you really are.

"You too could do as DeanFox says he is doing, studying the information which comprises Scientology."
And oh how lovely it is each and every time he proves you wrong...
33 months ago: "You have taken LRH's words out of context regarding India, amongst other things Oswald2001."

Prove us wrong, Jack. Provide the whole context.
33 months ago: You are making the assertions re LRH. I think the onus is on you, Anonymous Voice.
33 months ago: No, Oswald provided a quote, even citing a source.

You then claim that the context is incorrect, but fail to provide the surrounding text that would provide the context. It is not our responsibility to validate your claims with evidence, it is YOURS. The only responsibility we hold in this discussion is to attempt to REFUTE your claims.

Provide the context, since you claim to have access to the source material. If you can't, your claim that Oswald is not providing full context is refuted. It's that simple.
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
33 months ago: Terryeo: "Yes, more and more, the public becomes aware of Scientology. This is because the Church is prospering. Scientology.org's website traffic is up 100s of percents (sic) while critic websites remain mired in a mud of lies and deceit."

We've already covered web stats Terryeo and how easy they are to fix; how Anonymous and others amuse themselves with such things to "prove" things because they know you can't read anything in to them at all.

As to your organisation prospering, we've also covered how your organisation was already very, very rich ($450 - $800 billion) when David Miscavige took over the reigns of power and all we're seeing now is the organisation spending money to buy loads of buildings to give the illusion of growth, while at the same time providing just another excuse to reg' remaining members. FACT: Staff levels are all time low. FACT: The number of green grass joining members has tanked and the few you get are more interested in getting inside.

Sure you organisation is now spending more of its huge cash reserves than ever before on illusion of growth but it is a drop in the ocean and even that it still claws back from remaining members. Also, despite this massive increase in spend it STILL hasn't finished the super power building.

"mired in the mud of lies and deceit" - I LOL'd.
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
33 months ago: Terryeo:

"Through education and associated activity, people improve their lives in Scientology. And that quantity of people is increasing."

We've already covered how bad your association is at delivering anything to help the individual with their lives; you've admitted how marginal the "help" really is and we all know how expensive it is.

We've also covered how Study Tech is actually a very poor education model; it's actually a conditioning mechanism to facilitate indoctrination in to the organisation. It's so poor that the head teacher at Jada and Will Smith's school, the one they set up to use study tech, had serious reservations, serious enough for her to have to give up a $200,000 a year job.

We've covered how Volunteer Ministers believe they are helping at disaster zones when all they are doing is offering back rubs in exchange for a lengthy attempt to recruit people in to the organisation. We've covered how people can do things like this and be deluded in to thinking they are living a better life, when all they are doing is devoting their life to the organisation.

We've covered how the only people who really physically benefit, reduced stress, increased income etc. are the 1% or so of sharks within the organisation who find ways of piggy backing to sell scientology related services to members.
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
33 months ago: Terryeo:

"The difference - Scientology's technology includes an understanding of the critic who sees all large organizations as a threat, who sees all religion as a threat. And includes the critic who seeks to destroy the things he sees as threatening."

You demonstrate the opposite to what you're saying. If Scientology technology includes an understanding of "the critic" then why doesn't it?

First, there is no stereotype of "the critic". Anonymous is made up of a wide range of people with a wide range of backgrounds. There is no common age, sex, sexual orientation, race, religion or nationality. Anonymous is all inclusive because people are Anonymous, only their opinions matter.

Critics of the organisation calling itself the church of scientology only agree that it is wrong and needs to be dismantled in its current form. Even within that belief there are different views as to what's more wrong and what the end game will be, or indeed if there ever will be one.

There are also disagreements in approach and while the bulk go for more main stream protests and pickets others engage in a range of other activities.

I can not say there are no critics who see all large organizations as a threat, who see all religion as a threat and who seeks to destroy all they see as a threat but I can say I am not one of those critics and I haven't come across a critic who is. I have come across a couple while protesting though and we've had lengthy chats about New World Order or Corporate Domination.

The organisation calling itself the church of scientology isn't a threat to me. I just see it as perverse, corrupting, dangerous and damaging to other people. As part of making the world a better place I work to inoculate people against its corrupting influences.

As an organisation it needs to go and will be starved but as far as Scientology the belief is concerned, well that cat's out of the bag and I'm not one for herding cats.
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
33 months ago: Terryeo:

"Oswald, for example, can not even use common language when talking about what he knows, but is self-constrained to "buzz words", picked from the 4channel teenybabble. It is a sort of snobbery, do you see? A specialized language to put everyone who doesn't agree with you, out there, and separate from yourself. $cilons = evil, powerful beings who would love to find Oswald in a dark alley. Oswald, even though you make the utmost effort to separate yourself from others, the same information is available to you as to anyone else.

I almost said "kettle, pot, black?" with respect to your comments on Oswald's use of memes but really Terryeo Oswald has been fairly restrained in this respect, as indeed have you; you're using fewer phrases taught to you by your organisation so perhaps you're learning to communicate better with the outside world. Well done!

We just have to thrash out the kinks where your organisation has changed your understanding of certain words like "confront", "handle", "understand" and you'll become even better at expressing yourself to people outside of your organisation without being misunderstood.
DeanFox
DeanFox
England
33 months ago: Terryeo:

"You too could do as DeanFox says he is doing, studying the information which comprises Scientology."

I agree entirely Terryeo! Oswald, indeed anyone, can do what I claim to do; that is study the works of L Ron Hubbard not as a means to self improvement (there are better ways) but as an intellectual exercise in understanding the man, what he did in setting up the organisation calling itself the church of scientology and how he did it.

It isn't necessary to have known and shared private drinks with the man or sat at the back during his lectures. While this gave some unique insights one can still get a sense of the man from his recordings.

To the would be academic be wary though, when your brain starts to hurt stop listening or reading. :-)

DO NOT listen to the recordings believing they have answers to profound life issues; it's too easy to hear what one wants to believe amongst the babble. Be aware of the repetition techniques Hubbard uses, particularly with recordings - can be quite soporific.

Watch for the logical traps and the sentences that jar slightly almost like your brain is shifting gear.

Also watch out for subtle references and Hubbard in jokes as well as where he's really taking the piss and can barely contain himself in some of the lectures.

At certain points, when he senses the audience is completely enraptured he'll spring something on them and shift gear really quickly. He use to do this sometimes just for the kick of having such control; a great example of this is in the Oct 3, 1968, "Assists" course VIII lecture.

I don't recommend studying LRH's works in order like a member of the organisation does, you can but it can become soul destroying. There is way too much to get through and much is repetition or elaboration.
33 months ago: "You have taken LRH's words out of context regarding India, amongst other things Oswald2001. LRH was condemning Indian philosophies that are oriented in the direction of slavery. This might be why Scientology is gaining great ground in freeing people from Indian slave philosophies."
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1.) If what you claim is true, provide the whole context.

2.) Then how do you explain his other blatantly RACIST remarks?

"They smell of all the baths they didn't take. The trouble with China is, there are too many chinks here. "

- L. Ron Hubbard, personal journal, 1928


"Don't break your back scrubbing floors. Get yourself a nigger, that's what they were born for."

- L. Ron Hubbard, in a letter to his 2nd wife
33 months ago: The $cilons are assuming I have not studied Elron the Con's 'work'.

I have studied his 'work'. It's not his 'work'. It is the work of many people that came before him.

Elron the Con just repackaged and renamed things he got from others and claimed that he invented them or led you to believe that he did.

Elron the Con did NOTHING ORIGINAL. He just used existing principles, ideas, inventions, etc. (including HYPNOSIS) to further his real goal which was to get as much MONEY, POWER and CONTROL as he could.

Elron the Con was about MIND CONTROL. That's all.

If the HYPNOTIZED $cilons posting here were to have any real understanding of Elron the Con's 'work', they would see this for themselves.

Elron the Con's approach is/was essentially the same as the Pimp debasing/abusing his Ho's in order to keep them producing and under his control.

If you don't recognized that, YOU have studied Elron the Con's 'work'.

If you are still in the Predatory Evil $pace Alien Mind Control CULT, YOU have not studied Elron the Con's work...and seen it for what it is.

Almost nobody stays in the CULT. They all blow because they finally wake up and see that IT'S A CON JOB formulated by A CON MAN and perpetuated by ANOTHER CON MAN.

Good Riddance $cilontology. You have been consigned to the dust bin of history.

And you don't even know it yet.
33 months ago: Should read:

"If you don't recognized that, YOU haven't studied Elron the Con's 'work'."

Wake up and get out of the Mind Control CON JOB of a CULT.

Blow. Don't rout out. That's just further Mind Control.

Blow. Get out. Run.


Give yourself an opportunity to have a decent life.

They have LIED TO YOU.
33 months ago: If I provide a suitable context to your out of context quotations that demonstrates the benevolence of LRH, will you be ceasing your crusade against the Church of Scientology, Oswald2001?
33 months ago: Jack,

Let's try to focus, shall we?

1.) Provide documentation for the background of the quote:

"Now we say there's, well, another place in the world-there's India. Wonderful place - except for its people."

- L. Ron Hubbard, "The Control of Hysteria" (lecture), 15 April 1957


2.) Explain Elron the Con's RACIST remarks in the following two quotes:

"They smell of all the baths they didn't take. The trouble with China is, there are too many chinks here. "

- L. Ron Hubbard, personal journal, 1928


"Don't break your back scrubbing floors. Get yourself a nigger, that's what they were born for."

- L. Ron Hubbard, in a letter to his 2nd wife
33 months ago: Jack,

Next is your twisted take on my posts.

As long as you persist in your crusade to push a Predatory Evil $pace Alien Mind Control CULT, you will run into people with opposing views.

You may be, at this point, temporarily, a 'true believer' in $cilontology.

If so, only time, pain and very very substantial loss is likely to wake you up. Ok. Fair enough.

You pay your prices to wake up as we all do.

It is not right that you try and drag innocent people into the CON JOB of a CULT, though.

By the time you wake up and blow (and it's about a 99.9% chance you will - just like everyone else) you could have the downfall of several people that you conned into joining the Mind Control CULT on your conscience.

One day, you will very likely be far far away from the CULT wackos.

On that day, you will pray that you were NOT ABLE to con anyone else to their ruin.

On that
33 months ago: $cilontology has brought a huge backlash upon it's self.

$cilontology has, in it's own fake language, "pulled it in".

If you are a student of The CULT, you should surely recognize that fact.

My posts and the actions of thousands of others all around the world is 100% due to the actions and intentions of $cilontology.

Do a Google search on $cilontology and see what your PSYCOPATHIC founder had to say about "pulling it in".

I, like so many others, according to Elron the Con, am an invention of $cilontology alone.

It's called Karma. Yeah, Elron the Con stole that concept too.

Now, please do yourself a favor.

Actually study everything you can about $cilontology. IF...you are an honest person...you will see yourself.

I will know when...IF...you wake up by the tenor of your posts.
33 months ago: I don't read other people's personal journals or letters to their spouses, so I don't know what you are talking about, there, Oswald2001.

If you listened to LRH instead of just relying on your little quote, you would have heard this -

"Now we say there's, well, another place in the world — there's India. Wonderful place — except for its people. What's the matter with those people? Can you help those people? [...] Nothing man knew could have pulled up by the boot straps the Untouchable of India. Certainly not the Indian philosophies. They're all oriented in the direction of slavery and more slavery."

Perhaps you are pro-slavery.

Anyhow, look out for the defamation suit coming down the tunnel.
33 months ago: Lame $cilon spin Jack. Again, you FAIL.

You didn't address Elron the Con's RACIST remarks:

2.) Explain Elron the Con's RACIST remarks in the following two quotes:

"They smell of all the baths they didn't take. The trouble with China is, there are too many chinks here. "

- L. Ron Hubbard, personal journal, 1928


"Don't break your back scrubbing floors. Get yourself a nigger, that's what they were born for."

- L. Ron Hubbard, in a letter to his 2nd wife

33 months ago: Here's a nice video of Jason Beghe. Once called a "poster boy" for $cilontology.

He woke up and got the He** out.

You can too...unless you are a sociopath. (There are so many in these types of CULTS.)

Beghe did many of the voiceovers for The CULT indoctrination videos.

Anyway, pop some pop corn, get a nice drink and kick back and relax and watch a well known EX-$cilon talk about how things REALLY are in the Predatory Evil $pace Alien Mind Control CULT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNUjMz9-W2I
33 months ago: ""Now we say there's, well, another place in the world — there's India. Wonderful place — except for its people. What's the matter with those people? Can you help those people? [...] Nothing man knew could have pulled up by the boot straps the Untouchable of India. Certainly not the Indian philosophies. They're all oriented in the direction of slavery and more slavery.""

What's the missing quote, Jack? Why the lack of full context? How can you claim to be anti-slavery when you have your own policies regarding treatment of individuals low on the tone scale as being sub-human and undeserving of rights? Why is it unacceptable for the Indians to use a cultural caste system but its acceptable for you?
33 months ago: Yeah. Non-$cilons are "Wogs" in the CULT lingo.
33 months ago: Jack didn't include the full quote because he's a BS'er, spinner and bamboozler like all the rest of the $cilons.

They can't tell the truth because doing so would only shed light on their BS CULT.

Their Predatory Evil $pace Alien Mind Control CULT is a breeding ground and training ground for PATHOLOGICAL LIARS and SOCIOPATHS.


Tell us about Xenu, Jack:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu
33 months ago: Here's a nice video that clearly illustrates the Xenu lie and also how the $cilons are publicly such bald faced liars. The lying is part of the CULT culture.

This video starts of with Tommy Davis, CULT Ho and Chief Spokesman...LYING about $cilon beliefs.

South Park did a great job.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7EEOMbBIO8
33 months ago: Here's some more Elron the Con rubbish:

"Scientology is the only specific (cure) for radiation (atomic bomb) burns."

- L. Ron Hubbard, ALL ABOUT RADIATION, p. 109


The fact that this CULT has not been a bigger laughing stock that is has astounds me.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: Ms. Monique Yingling should, perhaps, research applicable law before she files a suit.

New York Times v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254, 264 (1964); Masson, 501 U.S. at 510 upheld that the scope of constitutional protection extends to statements of opinion on matters of public concern that do not contain or imply a provable factual assertion.

Also, to quote:
"The probability that a plaintiff will recover damages in a defamation suit depends largely on whether the plaintiff is a public or private figure in the eyes of the law. The public figure law of defamation was first delineated in new york times v. sullivan, 376 U.S. 254, 84 S. Ct. 710, 11 L. Ed. 2d 686 (1964). In Sullivan, the plaintiff, a police official, claimed that false allegations about him appeared in the New York Times, and sued the newspaper for libel. The Supreme Court balanced the plaintiff's interest in preserving his reputation against the public's interest in freedom of expression in the area of political debate. It held that a public official alleging libel must prove actual malice in order to recover damages. The Court declared that the First Amendment protects open and robust debate on public issues even when such debate includes "vehement, caustic, unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials." A public official or other plaintiff who has voluntarily assumed a position in the public eye must prove that defamatory statements were made with knowledge that they were false or with reckless disregard of whether they were false."
-http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Defamation

So, it would seem that that pesky 1st Amendment might limit this predicted suit- hopefully Ms. Yingling will take a look at the constitution before she files.

33 months ago: "The purpose of the suit is to harass and discourage rather than win."

"The law can be used very easily to harass, and enough harassment on somebody who is simply on the thin edge anyway, well knowing that he is not authorized, will generally be sufficient to cause professional decease. If possible, of course, ruin him utterly."

- Elron the Con


The $cilons are basically a terrorist group.

They generally use legal means to "utterly destroy" if possible.

You have to remember that you are dealing with the LEAST ethical people on the planet.
33 months ago: "They generally use legal means to "utterly destroy" if possible."
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Should read:

They generally use legal means to "ruin...utterly" if possible.

Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: I would add to that, Oswald. I believe that their attitude and actions towards psychiatrists, and also racist overtures against Australians and other nations would also make them a "hate group", by any credible definition.
33 months ago: Mark, true enough.

They are about where the SA (Brown Shirts) was in Germany in the early 1930's.

Paramilitary uniforms, power mad, facist approach, diminuitive fuhrer and all.

Sometimes, it seems to me as if the world will never learn.

Funny, I don't know of any other 'church' that has a Sniper's Nest at there international headquarters.

But, then again, I don't know of any other 'church' that has been responsible for the biggest infiltration of the US government in history.
Mark Tomles
Mark Tomles
FPO, AE
33 months ago: That's a good point, Oswald. I find it very concerning that they would engage in blanket attacks against multiple groups, while claiming to be ethical and peaceful. I can find no other way to describe their attacks against psychiatrists (and, occasionally Australians) to be anything other than hateful.
Louanne
Louanne
Los Angeles, CA
33 months ago: Jack H Remington is a troll, not a scientologist. He utterly fails to trick a real Scientology member.

- L
33 months ago: Cover up, twist, spin, lie, deceive, etc...

$cilons say the darndest things.

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