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Ride With Gore, You Ride with Bin Laden

Posted 24 months ago|30 comments|721 views
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Alex Layton
 Administrator
Puyallup, WA
Osama bin Laden, that impossible to track down leader of Al-Qaida, is back in the news. In his latest release, he takes a break from his usual chant of “Kill the infidels,” instead preaching the ills of global warming. (The authenticity of the tape has yet to be confirmed.)

In the tape, which was broadcast on A-Jazeera television, he calls for a “drastic solution” to global warming. He warns of the dangers of climate change, including hunger, desertification and floods across the globe. He blames (of course) the Western industrialized nations, in general, and America specifically, for the problems of the world and even offers a solution! He calls on the world to boycott American goods and the US dollar, as a way of bringing “the wheels of the American economy” to a halt.

When asked why it cost more to heat his cave in one month, than the average cave dweller spends in an entire year, he said that he buys carbon credits to offset his carbon footprint and, besides, you can’t put a price on the message that he’s spreading.
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Qris Quixotic
Qris Quixotic
Okemos, MI
24 months ago: Content Removed by Qris Quixotic
Alex Layton
Alex Layton
 Administrator
Puyallup, WA
24 months ago: Relax, it was a joke.
24 months ago: Ha, ha, ha. Keep tr ing. Sure wish the would catch that gu and cut his head off. (Take our pick) (Still no " " on m ke board)
everthecynic
everthecynic
24 months ago: I'm waiting for RSG to chime in on this one.
Qris Quixotic
Qris Quixotic
Okemos, MI
24 months ago: Sorry... didn't look like a joke....
Alex Layton
Alex Layton
 Administrator
Puyallup, WA
24 months ago: You thought bin Laden bought carbon credits?
24 months ago: You reckon he's worried about some glaciers in his neighborhood?

or could it be related to his call to not buy American products and not use dollars and his murdering thousands of Americans?

Huh?

A bunch of algurs.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
24 months ago: I think that even a stopped clock is right twice a day, and if Osama Bin Laden is wrong about everything else he might be right about climate change.
As Obama recently said even if you are a Global Warming denier, like Red, you should still get behind the energy bills, because the rest of the world actually believe their scientists and are pumping billions into Green Energy research so they can become leaders in renewables and get all of those millions of green jobs.
I think the deniers like Red, are downright unAmerican because they they want the Commie Chinks to get all of those jobs instead of us.
24 months ago: Al.
My scientists say this human caused global warming nonsense IS A HOAX.
I reiterate SCIENTISTS CONFIRM IT IS A HOAX.
For crying out loud, it is WATER VAPOR.
Whatever.

I'm all for energy independence for national security reasons. That means drill whereever and drill now.
Build refineries and raise our supply.

I'm all for alternative energy sources that are practical and not pipe dreams.

Like Green Jobs. That's hogwash.

Al, you lost me on that last sentence. The Chinese aren't going to have any green jobs. Wake up Al. They're lying and playing politics. The Chinese understand this whole human caused global warming is only a way to fleece the sole remaining free country, us.

They secretly and quietly look at you believers as doofusses ignorantly willing to destroy our country, respectfully.

Qris Quixotic
Qris Quixotic
Okemos, MI
24 months ago: Dependence on oil has cost us trillions and put us at the mercy of people who would rather see us dead... if they didn't need our cash.

Wind, solar, hydroelectricity, geothermal, etc. make us that much less involved in the middle east.... so who can argue with that?

Even if you don't believe in man made global warming, what about smog, air quality, and all the other downsides to burning our fuels? Look at Denver Colorado. It has some of the worst air in the world due to geography, wind patterns, and a large number of people burning things. I used to stare at the brown smear over Denver when I worked in Boulder.

Unfortunately, the extreme environmentalists are fighting even green power due to the impact on birds and bats for wind power, and things that live in the water for hydroelectricity. This is were I part ways with the extreme left.

Renewable power means peace, freedom, and self-reliance. Osama wouldn't be a blip on the radar if we did no business with the middle east.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
24 months ago: I want to know exactly what green jobs are coming, and how to get one. What is a green job? I think we've been getting a green job all along.
Qris Quixotic
Qris Quixotic
Okemos, MI
24 months ago: Oh c'mon....

Green jobs => working in alternative and renewable energy.

Is that clear enough??
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
24 months ago: Osama Bin Laden is on a life support machine of some kind. Isn’t he? Where was that machine made? Who helps maintain it? You recon he’s been reading Mother Earth or some other Environmental American Magazine while he’s getting it serviced? I think it’s kind of funny if he is actually worried about global warming all the while he is sending dozens of his countrymen to blow themselves up abroad. I can almost imagine Al Gore and Osama bumping into each other at the Marriott © while at neighboring conferences! Osama becomes an environmentalist and Al gore becomes a Jihadist! “Al Gore Akbar” could be their new rallying cry! Too Funny!
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
24 months ago: Qris Quixotic

Not clear at all, just another catch phrase to explain the first catch phrase. Renewable energy such as? Alternative energy such as? And what specific jobs will be available in the manufacture of these?

Farmers, or migrant workers to harvest the renewable crops?

Factory workers to churn out wind mills and solar panels?

Be specific.
24 months ago: Siempre:

Algur akbar! That's funny.

Q.

The concept of "Green jobs" reminds me of "Fools Gold".

Hogwash.
Qris Quixotic
Qris Quixotic
Okemos, MI
24 months ago: Wow... tough crowd.... You can still like alternative approaches to energy without being a bed wetting liberal or a communist.

Alternative and Renewable energy:

Wind, solar, hydroelectric, geothermal, biomass (methane and other gases harvested from sewage, garbage dumps, composting, etc.)

There are some others like tidal hydroelectric that use the movement of ocean tides to drive turbines.

People also toss in nuclear power here as well. Since no one can decide where to park the waste for 100,000 years until it is no longer dangerous, I am going to pass on nuclear.

Regardless of the where you stand on global warming, can't we agree less pollution is a good thing??? Isn't less money to fund terrorism also good?

If instead of importing oil, we could have a large number of jobs in the US - engineers, factory workers, electricians, etc. There is more to this than just turning screws on the assembly line.
Qris Quixotic
Qris Quixotic
Okemos, MI
24 months ago: One more thing... yes... renewable energy is more expensive for now. Like any other industry, economies of scale drive down costs.
24 months ago: Q.

If alternative and renewable energy was feasible, we'd already be doing it.

I'm all for stopping pollution. No problem there.

Drill here and now and open up a few hundred refineries and we could tell the terrorists to enjoy their parking lot we'd build for them.

Its the fool, cockamame liberals keeping us sucking hind ****.

Nuclear energy is the answer, but all the dang idiotic liberals have kept it from happening. Fools.
24 months ago: Q is a cool name. (I'm a trekkie.)
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
24 months ago: You all know the reason why renewable energy has been so slow coming out of the gate but no one wants to say it. Petro much like the hundreds of miles of virgin forests that covered America before the good Christian Anglo people came here and wiped most of it all away is a low cost resource to harvest.

Why? Because those that sat their fat donkeys on it and claimed it as their own don’t own it! They did not make it, nor can they make some more. They are just standing at the well with their hands stuck out collecting cash on something they have no friggin clue on how to make more of.

On the other hand renewable energy resources require thinking and planning and foresight and education and unlike Petro which just gushes out if you know where to dig, renewable energy resources require the know how of how to make nature yield its bounty while not killing her in the process. The big ole Petro lobbies however have enough money to shut the mouths and ears of the protesters and politicians that could do something about it and so hardly anything in the way of renewable gets done. Where you do see headway is small countries who can’t afford to spend a big chunk of their nations budget in luxuries like Petro and so they take the intelligent route and come up with renewable energy alternatives.

The USA being run by big fat cats and sponsored by big fat cats don’t give two hoots. Americas Greed inspired Christian religion says to these fat cats: God put all this before you, eat and consume as you wish. It is God’s divine will that you do so and these greedy bastards do it! That is why renewable energy is so expensive and hard to get off the ground. That is why!
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
24 months ago: China is investing between $460 and $660 billion dollars to win the renewable energy race. See: http://thebreakthrough.org/blog/2009/07/chinas_big_plan_to_win_the_cle.shtml
There are a lot of green jobs in Oregon now. There are 12 companies starting up that are producing and making things like solar cells and photovoltaic panels. The only trouble is all but one are foreign. In Eugene we have Grape energy which is a consortium of 11 Chinese companies providing PV panels. Then there is a South Korean leather company that is branching out to get in on the photovoltaic boom.
Germany is the leader now because they have a long history of subsidizing solar and renewable energy.
Only America is mired in the backward thinking of Reagan and Cheney.
Altruist
Altruist
Eugene, OR
24 months ago: Red This is the latest story saying that China is leading in the green energy war and that if you have your, and the rest of the deniers way, the US will become dependent on China for our future power, just as we are now dependent on Saudi Arabia, the center of Wahhabi terrorism in the world, for our oil.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/31/business/energy-environment/31renew.html
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
24 months ago: Renewable energy is harder on the environment than coal or petroleum. It uses valuable land needed for food production, produces more harmful waste, and is inefficient.

Methane is even worse on the atmosphere.

Geothermal is probably the way to go, but who knows what the effects will be when we start cooling large chunks of the earth's mantle. I'm guessing some massive earthquakes, when the mantle becomes crust. Considering the cost and time involved in drilling a single geothermal well, they'd better get busy.

As for photo cells, how much thermal energy are they going to collect here on the surface of the earth? At a time when some are advising painting roofs and roads white, they want to collect as much sunlight as we can to convert into heat for our homes, and other forms of heat emitting energy.

Maybe we can get enough high quality carbon from the natural gas supplies to eventually make the space elevators and hang collectors in the radiation belt. Also, orbiting solar collectors can microwave power directly into the grid.
Siempre Solo
Siempre Solo
Auburn, NY
24 months ago: You bring up valid points OOTB. Renewable Energy Resources do come with a price attached to it but it is a price way cheaper than the Petro alternative. Most of the methods for harvesting renewable right now are small scale because not enough money has historically been available to test out large scale methods and so if you try to implement something on a large scale that is designed for small scale operation then yes it will seem to fail at meeting its desired goal efficiently.

However there are more efficient methods of retrieving renewable energy on a large scale that are radically different then those for small scale models. Solar energy for example is more efficiently converted into heat directly than into electricity and then back into heat and so for homes that wish to use solar energy for heating as well as for power two different types of units would be required in addition to having that home tested for energy efficiency. Likewise in Hydroelectric scenarios as Qris pointed out it is no longer just Hydroelectric dams that can harvest energy from water.

Energy can be harvested from waves in open water as well as at shorelines. It can also be harvested from river currents as is being done in NYC Hudson river right now! Australia is planning on building a massive solar heat collector larger than central park and taller than the empire state building to warm air that will propel turbines to produce electricity. Japan is working on Satellite Solar/Electric colectors that will harvest solar energy out in space where it is 90% more concentrated and available 24/7 where it than will be converted into microwaves and beamed down to earth and then converted back to electricity. You name the problem there are solutions.
24 months ago: Siempre:

I understand there are more trees in North American NOW than when Christopher Columbus (a Christian by the way) arrived.

Yea, and we're all Jed Clampits around here. Shoot a squirrel and whala: Black Gold, Texas T. That easy to find oil.

I agree Obama is a fat cat, but he ain't no Christian. He's a muslim.

Al.

China's going to do what they can to bring the United States down, including enabling the liberals to carry on with their cockimame ideas.

Sorry.

And mark my words. All those green jobs will not be there in 10 years.

Al, the only way we'll be relying upon China for our energy is if you dang socialists succeed in your cockamame notions that human and cow farted carbon dioxide and NOT NORMAL WATER VAPOR leads to global warming. For crying out loud.

24 months ago: Right on outtabox.
24 months ago: Al.

We have all the oil we need to not be dependent upon those scumbags around the world.
Qris Quixotic
Qris Quixotic
Okemos, MI
24 months ago: Red state guy.... I am not calling you stupid, but I like the following definition of stupidity:

Stupidity is trying the same things over and over and expecting different results.

I think our nation's energy and oil policies up to now have been the definition of stupidity. The FUD (fear uncertainty and doubt) I see in some of these responses about alternative energy adds to this impression. Wind, solar, and hydroelectricity are not more damaging to the environment.

Ethanol and the whole corn driven fuel industry is more polluting, and it is moronic because it relies on petroleum based fertilizer to produce ethanol. Here, I agree with you. Ethanol is a boondoggle.

So... I believe we need to look at each potential new energy source in terms of risks, rewards, and costs, and toss out the ones like ethanol that are just plain stupid.

Solar and wind in particular offer the lowest impact with the greatest gain for energy independence. No one has solved the waste problem regarding nuclear energy. The two worst byproducts of fission - cesium and strontium, are deadly for thousands of years.

The world oil supply is limited. If we were to open up drilling everywhere, we are only postponing the inevitable. Change is coming now when it can be controlled, or it is coming later in a crisis mode. I would rather see controlled change.
Qris Quixotic
Qris Quixotic
Okemos, MI
24 months ago: I am a trekkie... I like Quixotic 'cuz sometimes I fight when I should just shut up, and I always liked the Q character even thought he annoyed the crap out of people. Two Q words... I qouldn't resist.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
24 months ago: ...we are only postponing the inevitable.

True, and the inevitable is that the foreign oil suppliers are going to break our back when they think we are on the road to energy independence. It happened when Carter started making noises, and it happened recently when Congress voted to revisit the offshore drilling ban.

We need our own supply of oil and natural gas to last us through the twenty or thirty years we need to weed through and test the multitudes of alternative energy options. Otherwise, while we are jumping through our own arses we are going to get caught with our pants around our ankles. Believe me, even the big petroleum outfits are working on alternative energy projects.

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