JESUS>RELIGION... THE MUSLIM VERSION "Look... What if I toad you, there was sompthin you were missin? What if I toad you, that Jesus doesn't really fit into your description? What if I toad you, that a follower of Christ, doesn't automatically mean Christian... and just because you believe in Faith, doesn't mean Jesus didn't believe in submission, and conviction. Listen... You say Jesus is God, and God had descended. We say Jesus was man, for Jesus was dependent. Our God is all great, and cannot be comprehended. You say God was murdered... or do you believe that he pretended? SEE... God gave us brains, and God gave us logic... But I guess God wanted us to use them in everything else except for this topic..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNGqrzkFp... [My "Spoken Word" response in these brackets !:]
[OK let's just stop there... your accent ain't very becommin, seein you representin almost all of Islam. My first clue, that you be dissin, be in the fact you don't know much, bout what it means to be a Christian. So I'm gonna lay down some truth,
from my book to yours; I'm just gettin started, you know that there's more !:]1) Let's talk about "logic" directly on this topic:
Islam says: "Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter." - Sura 2:191
Jesus says: "But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" Matthew 5:44
Islam says: "But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - Sura 4:89
Jesus says: "But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." Matthew 5:39
...Islam would have children carry bombs... Christ would have them carry Bibles
...Islam converts with the sword... Jesus Christ converts with His love
...Islam would have followers take a life... Jesus Christ lays down His life
[Now you be sayin that "the cross shouldn't really please us" it's like wearin an ax
if it was used to chop yo mamma up into pieces" ...should we rather that your leaders... lead us? So we can all wear bombs to blow innocent children up into pieces? See you be rappin this high and holy thesis, but St. Paul got you right...
it ain't nothin but feces! He said "I count all things but loss for the excellency of Christ ...and count them but dung" you know that he's right. See this is what happens when you believe in Islam... but fail to believe in Jesus !:]2) Wearing a Cross equated to wearing an "ax" if it killed someone you loved:
"Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God." Hebrews 12:2
"But far be it from me to boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world." Galatians 6:14
...If our Lord Jesus Christ with joy set before Him, endured the Cross, we too with joy can wear it... and like the Apostle Paul, boast in it alone!
[I know you got a problem with Christ being Creator... like it's to hard for God, being a man among us haters. But you don't have to fret, He's got this one, He is able...
He's keepin the whole Universe all ballanced and stable. So, if your eyes have a problem with this Sun... just think of the problem you gonna have when He's come! And if you have a problem with Jesus praying as a man, to His unlimited Spirit just so you can... His weakness for us don't misunderstand, He was just reaching down to give us a hand !:]3) Jesus was like us in all ways except sin, and Jesus in prayer, explained it to those who witnessed that very thing... the "Father was living in" Jesus...
Jesus looked up and said, "Father, I thank you that you have heard me. I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for the benefit of the people standing here, that they may believe that you sent me." John 11:41-42
Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves." John 14:8-11
[So just cause your brain is to small to comprehend it, don't diss a brother because he defend it... you were raised with a bias and I get it, but it don't mean that it's right or phonetic; just cause you all cool and fanatic... better check out the bugs in your attic... this is why we Hate Religion, but Love Jesus; cause it's through His power He frees us. He came to be a child of Man, so we could be a child of God...
too religious to get it? We're prayin, don't sweat it !:]4) Jesus Preached One God You Got That Right...
"Jacob left Beersheba and set out for Haran. When he reached a certain place, he stopped for the night because the sun had set. Taking one of the stones there, he put it under his head and lay down to sleep. He had a dream in which he saw a stairway resting on the earth, with its top reaching to heaven, and the angels of God were ascending and descending on it. There above it stood the Lord, and he said: "I am the Lord, the God of your father Abraham and the God of Isaac." Genesis 28:10-13
"Then Nathanael declared, "Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the King of Israel." Jesus said, "You believe because I told you I saw you under the fig tree. You shall see greater things than that." He then added, "I tell you the truth, you shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man." John 1:49-51
[I know you confused addition with subtraction, but it's really perspective and redundancy the action. Our perception is it's attestation, The One True and Living God in three incredible manifestations. Not any less to be the other, like "Father" "Friend" or even "Brother" ...in His image we truly be, three in one or one in three !:] 5) Jesus said He was Lord and will be called Lord, worship goes with the territory...
Jesus said... "You call me Teacher and Lord, and you are right, for so I Am." John 13:13
Jesus said... "Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'" Matthew 7:22-23
[You say Jesus only said "Our Father" not "Mine" ...yet Jesus did all the time !:]The Jews who were there gathered around him, saying, "How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Messiah, tell us plainly."Jesus answered, "I did tell you, but you do not believe... do not believe because you are not my sheep. My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand... I and the Father are One...For which of these (works) do you stone me?" "We are not stoning you for any good work," they replied, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God." John 10:24-33
Jefferson Bethke... you got it right the first time !:]