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RR staff? You hav not figured out the 99'ers Google game?

Posted 17 months ago|107 comments|1,012 views
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Sorry to bust the bubble. Hey Rant Rave staff. You have not figured out the game of the 99'ers? They are using you and this site and it is only a matter of time before Google cuts you off. You had best do something and quick. They have a network that has infiltrated the site and are probably clicking on each others PPC links to get paid. You had best get it under control before Google does.
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17 months ago: I'm not clicking on anyone's ads and apparently nobody is clicking on mine as I have made a whopping $2.77 this month with AdSense. Maybe Katie Brown, Newshound and Johnny Darkly are making more, they do seem to get a lot more views than most others.

Not everybody is here to make money off the 99er's, although I admit it looks like a few are. I'm here to voice my opinions and maybe make a couple bucks or so. I like a good debate on the issues from time to time.

Merry Christmas The Cypress Gang and redstateguy and the others that I've engaged with on RantRave, here's hoping we all have a better 2011.
17 months ago: Thank you my friend.

Merry Christmas.
kelsxo
kelsxo
Edgewater, FL
16 months ago: Not everyone makes money I sure don't. Its called an opinion. Maybe they shouldn't let hillbillies use computers they think they are intelligent now!!!
17 months ago: Merry Christmas Cully. We really do whis the best for all of you.
17 months ago: I also, as you, have never clicked on anyone's ads or my own. I have no idea who Newshound and Johnny Darkly are. My husband and I as 99ers happened across this site and noticed RantRave's ads to "Get Paid to Post".

We have not had any unemployment benefits for almost a year. My husband is 60 and I will be 60 in a few months. We are among the many unemployed who sent in many resumes, went in person to some job openings and we were unable to get hired. We have in over 40 years of marriage always worked hard with either jobs or businesses of our own. This was the first time we had ever had to except unemployment. Last year we lost of home of 17 years to foreclosure. We now feel lucky that our daughter and son-in-law had an empty basement we now call home.

As I said in other comments I have made, that we have put in many hours learning how to make money online. We have learned from as much free information as we can find and have paid for some how-to information with the little money we have.

We have learned how to make websites and write articles on many subjects for our own websites and for article directories like Ezine Articles. After seeing the RantRave ad to "Post and Make Money" we decided to give it a try.

Since we are 99er's I feel that we relate to what these people are going through and so that was the reason I started writing about their plight. I know there are some of them that may be "lazy" but most of them are not.

I have said in other comments that we are now making enough money online so we are no longer spending time looking for a job. We are making enough money to pay our bills but we are in no way getting rich. RantRave is just a part of what we make online and that part is maybe $10 per day.

We have never been big spenders. We buy almost all of our clothes from thrift stores and as I even commented on an article a couple of weeks ago, we only go out to eat once a month and then it is to Subway where my husband and I share their $5, 12" sub and just have water.

So I do feel very upset that there have been some other people on RantRave that keep making comments that I am lazy and a liar. There is one who keeps saying I had his article removed from RantRave. I would appreciate it if the moderator who removed that article would tell everyone that I never asked for anyone's article to be removed.

Even though we don't have any extra money we still had a nice Christmas with no gifts to each other and out of scrap wood we made a Puppet Theatre for our 2 grandsons.

So as I have said in comments before we are very thankful to have found RankRave to a least be able to make this little bit of extra money. As I have also said we hope to continue making enough so that we will not have to collect any unemployment benefits even if they would ever have a Tier 5 extension. We also report all of our earnings online as self employed income that even though it isn't much money we will still probably owe social security taxes on it which are almost 15% when it is your own business.
markbyrn
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17 months ago: Thanks for the post Katie and I hope the New Year brings you better fortunes. And as far as the removed post, you indeed had nothing to do with it; it was because the "author" of the removed post decided to cut and paste somebody else's article from another website.

While it's just my personal opinion, if the "compassionate" religious right types are going to call out the unemployed for being lazy, you would think they could spend some time writing their own article instead of lazily cutting and pasting somebody else work.
17 months ago: Hi Katie,

Could you explain what the 99'ers phenomenon is, what Tier 5 is, and what are the masses of views on the subject?

Is it something to do with a group of people using RantRave as a platform to reach political or economic ends? I certainly use the site for my political/ social/ economic and spiritual ends, but I am by my self, not aligned with thousand of others, and it's that alignment I'm curious about.

I am very new to this site, I found it while doing a google news search and came up with an editorial by Cully Wagoner.

Peace and happiness to all in this new year,

Chris
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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17 months ago:
....if the "compassionate" religious right types are going to call out the unemployed for being lazy, you would think they could spend some time writing their own article instead of lazily cutting and pasting somebody else work.

Didn't you just "cut and paste" the deed of one person onto the entire compassionate religious right? Wouldn't you consider that to be laziness of a sort? O_o

Had to chime in, just so I could wish you a Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas!!!!
17 months ago: When the economy started to go bad in 2007 after the housing bubble burst with the sub-prime mortgage crisis many people were laid off from their jobs. In the U.S. when someone is laid off of their job for no fault of their own they are given 26 weeks of unemployment benefits to keep going while they search for another job.

In other recessionary times 26 weeks was usually more then enough time to find another job. What basically happened this time was with the economy not looking so good many businesses started cutting back and laying off more people. This led to less new job openings for what has turned out to be many millions of unemployed. Some people were able to find a new job within the 26 week period but many didn't. This led to the Federal government stepping in and adding extra Tiers of weeks of unemployment benefits. The Tiers built up until it got to 4 Tiers.

The term 99ers came out of the people who were eligible for all 4 Tiers (the tiers for each state is based on their percentage of unemployed, so not all states are eligible.) If an unemployed person has gone through all 4 Tiers and still hasn't found a job they usually have totally collected 99weeks of benefits and then their benefits stop. This is why they are called 99ers.

Most of these are hard working people who lost their job by no fault of their own. Many had decent paying jobs for 10, 20, 30 or more years. They would much rather be working making a good living usually with health benefits etc. then collecting the average check of $270 per week. We know that the same as some people who do have a job are lazy and act like they are working, there are some lazy unemployed people out there. But the percentage of those is small compared to the ones who want and need a job. They don't want to lose their homes and all their savings etc., if they haven't already.

So all of this leads to millions who are asking for a Tier 5 extension. There are also the unemployed people in the states that aren't eligible for all the other tiers that are needing an extension also.

The debate is between those who need an extension to help them hold on until they can find a job and those who have jobs who say the government should not spend any of the tax payers dollars to help them since they are all just lazy.

My husband and I are lucky even though we lost our home to be making this little bit of money online to get us through and even take the place of a job. There are still some of the people on RantRave that begrudge us making a few dollars a day writing articles about something that we relate to with knowing how the 99ers are feeling and what they are going through.

We don't necessarily like more government spending but the debate then turns to if the U.S. can spends billions or more for other countries, who usually hate the U.S. if they don't give them some money and then still hate the U.S. if they do give them some money, then that money could instead be used for the unemployed in the U.S. So the debate goes on. But many people are like us who are not lazy and have tried hard to get a job. We have been lucky to find a way to make some money online so that we won't need the extension. But there are many, many people out there that need it.
17 months ago: Hey Plutonomister, I'm curious to know which one of my posts you found.

As Katie explained 99'ers are unemployed people who have been unemployed 99 or more weeks and have run out of unemployment benefits. Tier 5 would have given a few more weeks to the 99'ers but twice Tier 5 was brought up by Congress and twice it failed to make it to the vote stage.
17 months ago: This is on the first page when you do a search for "plutocracy." -- Cheers

The United States of Plutocracy
RantRave | Published Opinion. - ‎Dec 13, 2010‎
I noted that the word in the dictionary before Plutocracy is Pluto. Just as Pluto used to be considered a Planet, The United States used to be considered a ...
17 months ago: Thank you for this clear explanation.

I believe that increased productivity coupled with exporting our manufacturing sector made it so fewer people need to work in this country, yet all persons need to consume: if some are not able to work to afford consumption, then the system is contracting.

Contraction is the death knell of capitalism, and all I see out there is more and more contraction as consumption goes down. Some say the people are running up their credit again after only 2 years of paying down/ saving, and this current consumption is unsustainable.

We live in a social structure where, to paraphrase Shakespeare, some are born inferior, some achieve inferiority, and some have inferiority thrust upon them: very few are born inferior, and while most are decent people who end up having it thrust upon them. This is the anti-American Dream, and it's far more a reality than the story they tell you, that if you just work hard and are smart you will achieve greatness.

To hear about people who criticize the government support those out of work receive makes my blood boil, and it is only calmed down when I realize those selfish types change their tune real fast when they get screwed out of work and have to eat their ignorance served with a side of shame.

Best of luck managing in a system that processes people on the left as workers and on the right as consumers, fleecing their personhood and self worth along the way.
17 months ago: I thought Katie said that 26'ers are 99'ers? Am I wrong Katie? Didn't you say in a post that everyone that has benefits cut off no matter if they reached 99 weeks are considered 99'ers? Do I need to repost your definition?
17 months ago: Come on Katie..." making this little bit of money online to get us through " now?
What were your words earlier in other posts? Do I need to find them or can I sum them up in simple terms.

...We make more now than we could if we had a job....

Is that close? Want to argue it? Need a repost with a link?
17 months ago: She did seem to indicate that thanks to RantRave they have enough income to support them. She also said they moved into the basement of a family member so they might not need much income to get by.
17 months ago: 26'ers would be people that are in States with low unemployment rates and therefore do not qualify for EUC or EB. So in a way they are in the same ship as the 99'ers, if only on a higher deck.
99'ers are people that have been unemployed more than 99 weeks and have exhausted all of their unemployment benefits UI, EUC and EB and have no more unemployment benefits coming to them.
I don't know if that's Katie's definition or not, I've never seen her post you speak of Cypress.
17 months ago: So, finally a true 99'er statement. Everyone that is unemployed without continued benefits which have not been in the line and on the dole for 99 weeks are less worthy. So all of you unemployed people that will never get to 99 weeks of payments because your state has a lower unemployment statistics. Your out of luck. 99'ers want it all. Including yours.
17 months ago: I never said the 99'ers were less worthy than the 26'ers, only that the 26'ers are higher up in the queue. The longer you are unemployed the tougher it is to get a job. Myself, I'm determined to have a job before I hit 99 weeks and I will have some sort of job by mid January 2011.
99nomore
99nomore
17 months ago: According to Rick Scott the average person who is on UI spends less then 20 minutes a day. Knowing my friends and ex-coworkers I believe this to be true. So if you spend 40 minutes a day you double your chances of working!!
99nomore
99nomore
17 months ago: Katie has posted that thanks to sites like RantRave she wouldn't need a tier 5 extension. They are making enough now. So why is she writing about the injustice of it all?
17 months ago: I'll take a wild guess...

Raping what you sow....
17 months ago: Yes please find that post. I would like to see it . Thanks.
17 months ago: Katie Brown
15 days ago: You obviously haven't read the comment I made on another person's Rant. As you will see in that comment at the bottom of this post I said that we haven't had any unemployment for almost a year.

With articles we write for RantRave and other sites, we are making more than what we received from unemployment. Even if there was to be an unemployment extension tier 5 we wouldn't need it or a JOB.

We have spent many hours over the last year and a half, learning how to make websites and other ways to make money online. We didn't get any government help to pay for schooling etc. We find as much free information on the web that we can and we have also used some of the little money we have to pay for some how to information and also hosting and buying domains.

We write articles on some of other sites about many different topics but because we are 99ers ourselves this is a topic that we relate to. We really know how hard it is for all the unemployed. Even though we no longer need any more unemployment for ourselves we feel that the unemployment extension should be passed for all the others because this was no fault of their own and they are not a bunch of "lazy" people.

HERE IS THE COMMENT I MADE ON ANOTHER RANT ARTICLE:

My husband and I have been married for over 40 years and have always owned a house. We were 19 and 20 when we got married and built our first home completely by ourselves, doing the plumbing, wiring, shingling etc. all by ourselves

Over the next 10 years we went on to build other people's homes as well as 7 other homes that we built for ourselves, selling one then moving into the next one. We did this with 2 kids tagging along with us. We didn't get rich but we were making a living. This all came to an end when mortgage rates went to 18% in the early 80's. If it's hard selling homes today with 4.5% mortgages try selling one with 18% mortgages.

Then over the years we had other businesses of our own. We had a "mom & pop" sporting goods store for 7 years until WalMart built close by. We had a small video store for about 8 years until satellite dishes came in.

So in 2007 my husband got a job with a company that sold electric lights to Lowes Stores for construction companies. So for the first time we actually had good health insurance that only cost us a couple hundred dollars a month. Well this was just before all the home construction came to a halt. Needless to say he was laid off in 2008 and went on unemployment. Our small art business we had at the time came to a halt also.

After only being unemployed for a week or two there was a Home Depot opening up in our area. They were hiring 120 people to work in the store. With almost 40 years of construction and business experience we thought he would have a good chance at getting a job there. Well they had 4000 people apply for the 120 jobs. That's where being almost 60 years old was probably the reason he wasn't hired.

After sending out resumes online weekly and going to other local places trying to find a job we no longer had enough money to pay our mortgage on the house we had lived in for 17 years. We lost it in foreclosure. But we feel very lucky that our daughter and her husband had a house with an unfinished basement that we completely finished out by finding things on Craigslist like kitchen cupboards, bathroom and kitchen sinks and interior doors. We found flooring and light fixtures at a liquidation store. We have our own separate entrance so it feels like our own home.

Losing our home was hard but it freed us up to have less payments so now we have been able to make enough from online to pay our other bills. We haven't had any unemployment for almost a year now and we are at least seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.

We still can not afford health insurance which at our age would cost us over $1000 per month with a $10,000 deductible. We try to eat hea
17 months ago: sorry sweetness. I got off subject.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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17 months ago: RantRave is making money from them, too. I'm sure the 99er bloggers are linking to the articles that appear on here from other sites too. They are getting thousands of hits even before their articles are submitted to Google News. That has resulted in an influx of hundreds of new members over the past month.
17 months ago: RantRave purchase price just went up.
17 months ago: Maybe they can all pool their money together and buy the site.

Red, if your traveling you best get a move on. I hear you have a White Christmas on the way. Peace my Brother.
17 months ago: Merry Christmas Brother Box.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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17 months ago: Merry Christmas to you too, Cypress. Merry Christmas RSG, and a Merry Christmas to you too Cully.
17 months ago: Thank You, Out Of The Box
17 months ago: Your welcome Cully.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
17 months ago: TCG,

Is the concern you raised really for the welfare of the forum or or for that the fact that you disagree with the posts? Me definitely thinks the latter although I was concerned that Rant Rave had suddenly became the Tier 99 Activist Board, and it seemed to me that many of the articles were somewhat repetitious.

Whether that was happenstance due to the current and volatile nature of the issue or it was by design, I don't know. If people are gaming the Google system, that's for Alex to worry about and you might want to send him a note directly with your evidence thereof.
17 months ago: actually, you would have more access to the data. I'm sure you are aware that every click is tagged to a IP address. It will only be a matter of time before a pattern is flagged. I suggest you read the google adsense TOS. Since you so into quoting the RR TOS when hammering people. BTW. The RR TOS is linked to the Google Adsense TOS. So....the ball is now in your court.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
17 months ago: Actually you're wrong - I don't have access to any data or IP info. All I see is posts to be reviewed for Google submission plus flagged posts and comments - thats's it. You make it sound like I got a paid job with access to the mainframe. If there's an issue here (besides your bias), it's for Alex to look at.
99nomore
99nomore
17 months ago: Cypress is right. Google is investigating a few people on this site. One woman amd one man.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
17 months ago: It's me, right? I've been noticing a lot of strange things with my web browser lately. Like it knows me, or something. I won't even have what i'm looking for halfway typed and it pops up under the search window.

It's like they know everything!!!!
Out Of The Box
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17 months ago: Oh yeah, I forgot to congratulate you for getting a job after being unemployed for exactly 99 weeks. Did Cypress get you the job?
99nomore
99nomore
17 months ago: No. Never met Cypress but he seems great. I was out for 110 weeks. Disgusting.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
17 months ago: Yeah he's a good guy. He definitely calls 'em as he sees 'em. You won't catch him tippy toeing around any thing he says. That's a great quality.
99nomore
99nomore
17 months ago: Could use a buddy like him in my life for sure. I know happygolucky. He is the most generous guy in the world. Donated a kidney to a complete stranger, was a first responder on 9/11 and lived thru 2 types of cancer. He spent $5,000 on christmas gifts for strangers this year.
17 months ago: You guys need to shut up. I work hard on Love/Hate relationships.
I enjoy all of those that love to hate me. That would be their problem.
17 months ago: Did you notice how the 99'ers adsense posts dropped since this post? Did they all go on Christmas vacation?
17 months ago: You mean you could use another free hand out from someone who sounds a lot more morally upstanding than you, who castigates the unemployed after being unemployed yourself for 100 weeks. Disgusting and hypocritical.
17 months ago: Pluto. It's better stated if you don't use them or they. us or ours. Grab some acorns and put a name on it. They will three choices. Bail, respond or ignore.

The ignore would be the worst.
17 months ago: I'm sure Google being as big and all knowing as it is has a way to know who is doing what. Everything is traceable by IP Address so why try and game the system, although I'm sure a few try. I'm sure the more money you make with AdSense the more Google looks at you.
17 months ago: Ever since we starting making our own websites with google adsense on them we don't even let any of our relatives or friends know what they are because we don't want any of them clicking on any of our ads. We have become so accustomed to being sure to "not" click on our own ads that we will hardly ever click on google ads on any sites we go on that are not even ours.
99nomore
99nomore
17 months ago: Do you let people know that the software in Adsense is a privacy buster? It uses the tracking cookies in their computer to customize the ads they see?
17 months ago: Yeah, I bet. Kinda hard keeping up with 10s of thousands of bogus adsense links EH? Sooner or later. You do know that you can be back charged by Google. Right? You might be living under the basement real soon along with the owners of the basement as I'm sure the I.P.s are somehow linked to a home address.....? Nice.
17 months ago: Duh, I get it now, Katie: there are people out there who think 99ers are congenitally corrupt AND lazy: eager enough to screw the system, and yet too lazy to earn money the hard way.

Are you kidding me? Now people want to begrudge hard working Americans who want to pull themselves up by their bootstraps by using Ad Sense to put together a few dollars to buy cat food?

There are not that many lazy people out there, indeed, there ARE psychopathic bullies we call CEO's who treat their workers like expendable assets, no pigs, and since slaughter and whipping was only outlawed 150 years ago, we just lay them off and let them rot.

We live in a time where the peak of progress and technology have come to be used against you, what with Financial Innovation being another way to experiment on the rats, concentrating wealth: yes, wealth concentration is a direct correlation with other technological advances. They are perfecting manipulating the masses for profit in the same way they are perfecting everything else technologically.

The most recent Great Recession is simply their current experiment in Financial Innovation gone awry. Oops, maybe the experiment was a success...
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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17 months ago: "Oops, maybe the experiment was a success..."

New World Order? Control? Leveling the international playing field? What made America great? Was it the fact that the gene pool consisted primarily of those who were daring enough to leap into the unknown? Smart enough to recognize opportunity? Independent enough to leave behind their support network?

Those traits are being suppressed and bred out of our gene pool, by a government that is systematically encouraging the breeding of timid, fretful, dependent sheeple. A good labor base, easy to control, and cheap to maintain.
17 months ago: Simple definition of lazy. Click to get paid. Double click to get paid twice.
17 months ago: You must not have read the Bilderberg report that was released last year.
99nomore
99nomore
17 months ago: Hmmmm... Think Katie is worried? She is dropping like a rock in popularity.
17 months ago: She is on Christmas vacation in Hawaii. Along with the other non-working family.
99nomore
99nomore
17 months ago: Entertaining Oprah is a full-time job.
17 months ago: I have got to get out from under the rock more often. I didn't know she had a "Bon-Bon" line. What is the name? ?"fat cat" or "fat @$$" or "dumb-dumb"?
99nomore
99nomore
17 months ago: She is a fat A$$ who thinks she is better then everyone.
17 months ago: Uh, no, that is you. Go read your slap in the face over at the Economy tab, hypocrite.
17 months ago: Please Pluto. Give us lazy folk a single click link to get to pay dirt.
17 months ago: You're not lazy, are you? I don't assume anyone is lazy. I do notice when they write like entitled jerks and snobs, like the dude who was out of work for 110 weeks and now goes around blowing his nose on others less fortunate than him.

Can someone please tell me: am I the only person commenting on this site who is not struggling with employment -- I work on a farm and keep the fruits of my labor there.
17 months ago: Send me a city and I'll find you 5 good active job listing within 5 minutes...4, 3, 2, 1....I suggest you apply online without a resume' and then follow up everyday for a week by standing a the front door 1 hour before they open.

Need a list of job openings in your area?
17 months ago: LOL.. never seen so much clueless nonsense by people who have not an iota of an idea how Google works.

First off people, learn the difference between adwords & adsense and how they work.

Secondly, anyone claiming they know that Google is investigating this or that, is lying. Pure and simple. If you think you have proof, please post it here. Not assumptions, not hearsay, not conjecture, but irrefutable proof.

Thirdly RR is in no way affected if an adsense publisher abuses his account with false clicks, click teams or any other sort of click fraud. And Googleare very effective at detecting click fraud. Even attempts to "click bomb" someone account will fail, as their algos and the data they can draw upon is staggering.

Fourthly, it's blindingly obvious there a a number of posters on this site who are not only extremely jealous, but set out to be nothing other then trolls. It's laughable all the claims they make, with not a shred of evidence, just guess work espoused as fact.

Fifthly, don't try and dictate what the public want to read about.

Sixthly, this site allows people to make money from adsense. Those who only see a few dollars are doing it wrong. And it's not my place to tell you how to do it right. But when you do it right, RR benefits (I'm not going to go into how), and the writer benefits. But most importantly, the visitor benefits. It's a win-win.

Just because you personally may not agree with the subject matter, doesn't mean that you should feel the need to try and censor. Because that is effectively what you're trying to do here i.e. post only articles that meet my criteria of what I think should be published.

Now I've work to do, so I'll leave the OP and siblings to continue his diatribe.
17 months ago: If I was willing to be a corporate sell-out shill then I'd be doing "it right" to and writing marketing/ PR drivel for the man: I have self respect, you are willing to sell your personhood for small change.

I bet you wouldn't make a dime on an original thought.
99nomore
99nomore
17 months ago: Go wait in line for the new Ipad.
17 months ago: Dang, I did notice a shade of green this morning while looking in the mirror. Nice try. You are the one looking for a job? Right? Feeling a tad bit emasculated? It's OK. Therapy is a good thing. Your now moving to step 2.
17 months ago: OK, OK, OK....I'll do it. I'll kill this thread...

You people who have jobs or have food or have homes or have clothes or have utilities or have heat or have air conditioning or have a chicken in the pot or have medical care or have a pet that won't give us our due are all Nazis'...

Well. Maybe someone on the left will need to invoke the rule.
17 months ago: How does this kill the thread -- is it supposed to be verboten to mention the N-word? What is the rule that gets invoked, that you can't compare others to Nazis?

Nazi's were normal people just like you and me, however, they were citizens who found themselves living in a fascist state run by a dictator who wanted to take over the world and kill off non-Aryans. When push came to shove, the people complied with the top, down Nazi orders because they feared for their own lives.

Today, in America, where the corporate power structure completely controls the government we elect, there is a strong possibility that we will lose all manner of control over our own lives since we all suck the **** of the corporations 24/7/365. Sure we're all stock animals now, but we still think we have our freedom.

When, one day, a majority of us feel like we don't have freedom to live as we want to, then that will be the time the population identifies itself as living in a fascist state.

I think Nazi comparisons are vital, so long as we don't say stupid things like "Bush is like Hitler" because the former may only be responsible for 1 million deaths, whereas the latter had 10 times that under his belt. Nazi comparisons are helpful in looking at the trajectory of the American way of life in the next 25 years, or so.
17 months ago: It's an old joke... google Godwin's law....
17 months ago: Hey Mark. You asked? So, here is the proof. Since the posting of this little rant the 99'ers posts have dropped by 100 percent. Are they all on vacation in Hawaii with the Obamas'? I doubt it. Did you do anything to keep them from posting? I doubt it.

Is there any truth in this post that would keep them from posting?

Most likely.

You roll those dice and see what you figure out. Next time delete my post if you don't like it. Otherwise. Sit on the sideline like a good moderator.
17 months ago: Well TCG, I think the answer is it became a non-issue after Obama signed the new law into effect. There 100 to 200 posts on RantRave about Unemployment, the 99'ers and Tier V, which we all know is not coming. I think you can only push the point for so long before you have to move on.
17 months ago: You serous? Lol.. you think a troll like yourself has any influence on anything? I guess it has escaped your attention that it's Xmas time. people maybe away, have family to attend to, any host of reasons. And since Congress is adjourned until Jan 5th, this also has a bearing on news.

The plight of those ignored by the current tier 1-4 extensions is not going away, and you will be hearing a lot more about it as the next year progresses. So stay tuned.
17 months ago: You think that was funny? Can't answer the question without going to the Godwin's or troll law?

I ask again and will break it down for your simple mind.

If all of the ranters are do destitute and don't have 2 sticks to rub together to make fire.

Where are they? I think you answered it...Christmas vacation.

I didn't think they could pay their mortgage, utilities, taxes, vehicle fule, insurance or put food on the table by their own accounts.

Now the are off on Christmas Vacation...

Probably sending resumes' via broadband wirless connections.

I'm the troll? OK. Troll this. Is wifey still tucking you in at night?
17 months ago: Haha. you did come from the shallow end of the gene pool didn't you?

You assume many things, all wrong of course. You are the perfect candidate for the rule "never argue with idiots, they'll just bring you down to their level where their better armed"

So before I have to lower myself to the IQ quotient of a salamander... and yourself... I'll leave you to your rants and delusions.
17 months ago: That is the best you have? Let me guess. Your resume is 12 pages long. All of it in the past.

You really want to take me on? Look around. Many have tried. Many are gone.
17 months ago: Katie Has been using this site for months to make money. Then poof she is gone. Frankly her posts were getting repetitive and boring.
17 months ago: I agree with Cypress. The money train is running out of coal.
Pigbitin Mad
Pigbitin Mad
New York, NY
17 months ago: What a great idea. I will click on every ad i see just to run up the bills. Everyone should do the same.
17 months ago: Yeah. Please click on every ad you see so google can track you and your bogus game.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
17 months ago: Google will track you down and break your clicker finger.
Pigbitin Mad
Pigbitin Mad
New York, NY
17 months ago: Never would have known about it except for you. And besides, I am not making any money from anything so why would Google care what I do. F them.
99nomore
99nomore
17 months ago: Katie......helllllllooooooooo
17 months ago: Go compare yourself to Happygolucky again -- I liked that as you come off as the biggest loser! Do it! And while you're at it do it with Cypress Gang...In the road!
17 months ago: Been busy working on our other websites and places where we make the most of our money (little as it is, but as I have said before at least it pays our bills). Will be writing more for RantRave later also, but for now we have other projects online and offline that need our attention. No time off like Obama and Congress members have.
English Lion
English Lion
16 months ago: it is very strange that the 99'rs have stopped most of there posts on this subject since you put this on here cypress.
Surely though it must be coincidence??????????
In some parts of the world people that dont work are trusted to be honest surely they are on here too.
BELTBELT
BELTBELT
16 months ago: i personally like Mike Huckabee's proposal for Tier 5 (i.e., tied to community service). you can feel good and do something for your community. but in general, i support the tea party's platform of smaller government, less regulation, and entitlements. we need to end this welfare state, because we kwwp printing Money which leads to inflation. and we need what Mr. Huckabee proposed, a fair tax. let's not tax productivitywith this draconian tax system with 100 different brackets. that punishes productivity. lets instead allow people to keep their Paycheks and tax everyone at the same rate at the point of consumption. Also we should not be forced into programs like SS and medicare if we don't want to. We should be allowed to invest ourselves in the free market if we want, instead of being forced into government-run programs which don't work. I also think Obamacare, for that reason also needs to be repealed. let's let the free markets work. i can fix this so called healthcare problem instantly...allow people to purchase insurance across state lines. Then anybody can buy as much or as little coverage as they want, free from state mandates. if someone wants to buy minimal coverage, they should be able to do so. But you can't Now, because of state mandates. This would easily fix that problem, but no, that would be too easy.
sso again, primary voters, especially those of you in Iowa, keep Mr. Huckabbe in mind in 2012, he will help take this country back.
and getting back To Tier 5, i suggest those of you that support This also vote for Mr. Huckabee, because realistically, he would be the only president who would deliver it. i believe Mr. Gingrich, Mr. Romney etc. would not. i think Mr. Huckabee has the clout to convince John Boehner to support Tier 5, while Mr. Obama does not.
Huckabee in 2012.
15 months ago: Dont know what your talking about, I hate ads myself and may have clicked one or two or maybe three total at the most. While its a great idea, as you say Google would eventually figure it out so why kill a good thing. I've mad a whopping $2.25 last I checked and promise if I was part of some scam would have more than that to show for two weeks worth of effort. I say Shame on You for suggesting something you cannot support with any facts, unless you've been doing it yourself and thought it might start a trend. Once again...shame, shame, shame!
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
15 months ago: Ahhh, but I can support Cyress's claim with hard cold facts. What I know I'm keeping to myself. For now.

I don't know why rantrave was suspended from googlenews, and to be honest, I had forgotten about this prediction. But now it makes more sense to me. That google algorithm is pretty sneaky, and it can detect patterns no one would think are detectable.

Once again, TCG, good call, and I'm amazed at your perceptiveness. Maybe RantRave should create a new position: security officer.
15 months ago: Box -- when was R&R booted from Google news and what caused it and how long will it last? While I don't write for pennies, I sure did write to get put on google news, which my posts were on...up to a point, it seems. What's up, it sure makes it less desirable to write on R&R if the tracks stop here.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
15 months ago: Plutonomister

It looks like Google pulled RantRave on 06 February. Three things could have caused it, and it appears that the SuperBowl spam attack was the main culprit, due to the timing. The other thing, which Alex warned us about several times, was posting our content on multiple websites. The third thing was a 99ers coalition which clicked on each others accounts.

I don't know how long before we get back into GN, if we ever do.
15 months ago: What is clear is that the 99'er coalition was guilty of the last two. Who knows?
Possibly the first also.
15 months ago: Aghh! Say what? So R&R has lost its Google News account? In organizations I know, there would be heads rolling. Where does the buck stop and with whom, at R&R? Is R&R so secretive about its "About US" and who they are to avoid taking professional responsibility/ liability?

Are we to believe we are in control and need to weed out the bad apples? Fine, give me the keys to your R&R website, and I'll fix the baxtards. Is it a backbone issue? Anyone need a slight realignment?

What was the superbowl spam thing, was it all those dang recipes for how to eat junk food like it was something of a special occasion?

And who's posting on other sites? Boy, that actually sounds like a good idea -- like ditching R&R for another site that is still connected to Google News. What are those other sites -- if anyone can name a few, and I like them, then maybe I'll ditch this place and everyone can be free of the Plutonomister at R&R! Par-tay.

I really do hold R&R staff responsible for the bogus click money game the 99ers were doing to ratchet up each others' click-income. This is so immoral, it makes me think there are people out there who are dishonest! Can you believe it -- dishonest!

It doesn't make me feel too great about the bosses of R&R since they can't make their business model work: leg 1 of the stool is the editorial opinion people write and they publish, leg 2 is the chump change you can earn if you write about things that attracts the kind of people who click on the ads, and the third leg was just broken out from under the stool, and that was getting the members' editorial opinion syndicated by Google News.

Not being able to sit on the R&R stool is not very relaxing, and it certainly isn't restful... Who's going to take responsibility for this major blow to the mission and goals of the R&R website? I think the R&R staff needs a good, old fashioned board of directors to spank them for not being able to control their website and letting a bunch of immoral losers to destroy it for them!
15 months ago: So when is R&R gonna get rid of this link?

http://rantrave.com/editorial-reviews.as...

If R&R has lost its Google News syndication, and they don't take down this link, then that's [fill in the blank.]

And what about fixing this wrong/ outdated FAQ page:

http://rantrave.com/frequently-asked-que...

Who's in charge of this business, I demand to know! Yeah, right, these folks have got to sit up straight before they raise their hands to identify themselves as the responsible parties for running/ ruining R&R, and that ain't happening until they produce a decent "About Us" page and take responsibility for their business management.
15 months ago: Hummm. Don't be a TCG and turn into someone that runs off the newbies.
It's not a title you will enjoy. Being called every name in the book.
15 months ago: You want to really go nuts? Read this one I posted over 15 months ago...

http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/RantRave-Da...
15 months ago: No way. I'd have to give up my guns.
15 months ago: Box, they took the bet on the other post. Remember that this warning was posted the week of Christmas. It is 7 weeks old. Have fun. Post your stuff here also if you don't mind.
15 months ago: Guys, RR was removed purely on quality issues. Most likely the "watch tv online" spam.

The claims about adsense clicks being the cause is just BS. GN !== Adsense. Adsense violations does not get you removed from GN. 2 different things. Any adsense violations would only harm the person's own adsense account.

The RR staff dropped the ball on letting spam get through. Simple as that. Google is pretty unforgiving in that area, and there's a forum of dobbers over at GN Help forums only too happy to write in and complain to GN about any site they think is breaking GN rules - imagined or not. These people are usually other site owners, as they fear competition, and therefore seek to pull other sites off GN.
15 months ago: Ain't is strange that this post was listed before Christmas and then BOOM?

How about the one posted 15 months ago?

http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/RantRave-Da...

No? Can't say someone didn't know there was an issue.
15 months ago: Can you post a link to some of the spam -- I want to see it but can't find it.
15 months ago: 15mths ago.. and now you think that has relevance to what happened recently? That's drawing a long bow. GN doesn't wait that long to act.

And as stated before, the Adsense claims for RR's demise in GN are pure BS, so strike out on that one too.

I suggest people thoroughly familiarize themselves with exactly how GN & Adsense work before hopping to ill founded conclusions.

Again, it was the pure unadulterated spam that swept through RR in Jan that got RR kicked. Nothing else.

But if you want to claim 'seer' status for RR demise in GN, go ahead, no skin off my nose.
15 months ago: Really? The intial warning 15 months ago and then this post the week of Christmas 2010 (7 weeks ago)? No warning?

"Adsense claims for RR's demise in GN are pure BS"

Where is your link to Google stating such?

I don't give a rats rear about Google News and/or Adsense.

I have an Adsense account but it is not active on my RantRave account. That dog will not hunt. I don't care if anything gets added to Goggle news. That dog will not hunt.
15 months ago: I suggest you do your own research on the operations of Adsense and GN.

Adsense violations are solely between Adsense and the publisher involved.. It dos not affect the site that adsense is displayed on.

If the site itself was banned from Adsense, that would be a different story, but as RR isn't, it's a non -issue.
15 months ago: I suggest you get your checkbook out and ready to write a check to Google for any spam you are a part of.
15 months ago: lol.. I guess you just want to remain clueless as to the actual workings of GN & Adsense.... Why? So you can keep sprouting your BS claims as if they were truth?

Anyway, no use arguing with someone who refuses to face the facts. Remain a legend in your own mind if that is what you need to feel good about yourself.
I'm done with you.
15 months ago: Yeah. Right. Fudgenutt. Your here a total of 5 weeks and you know everything?

Ride that Tube, Bro Dude! Ride that Tube!
15 months ago: Others have been complaining about the pirated recipes that some girl has been posting on here daily. They were directly from another website and she "cut and pasted" them daily. What a scam! Then recipes for "Killer Brownies". What a great example for our kids to push illegal drugs. People who don't see the down side of drugs like I do on a everyday basis.
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