This whole exercise has been very amusing. It's just stupefying to me that folks would try so hard to deny the obvious. Again not for rational reasons, but for purely personal and emotional ones.
Some folks simply refuse to admit that they may be accountable to anyone or anything outside of themselves or that there may be a purpose greater than themselves that can or even should drive existence. To me, that is not only short sighted, but quite ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as denying the existence of historical figures or events because we don't like what they have taught or what they stand for. "The holocaust never happened."
I've been very generic on this post on purpose. The folks here that are fighting against biblical authority (which I never even brought up on this post) are doing so because of the overall message not because they don't believe at least a good portion of it to be the truth. Many folks simply either refuse to acknowledge or refuse to validate a standard that is on a way, way higher level than where we currently find ourselves. No one likes to be called a sinner. That's word.
On another note, it is ridiculous for anyone to say they know for a fact that there is no God just as it is ridiculous for any human being to say they know everything there is to know about God. Both positions are untenable, and ludicrous, not to mention ridiculous.
Bottom line (again): What is self-evident is that we exist and this universe is no accident. We may beg to differ on the details on the intelligence behind this creation, however to deny that there is any intelligence behind it is to deny the obvious.
Anyone who believes that this universe was created itself or that life spontaneously generated from non-life is as RELIGIOUS as anyone on the planet whether they want to admit it or not. That's an indisputable FACT.
That belief system has got to be one of the most fairytailish scenarios of all time. All time. Hands down.
What makes many (not all) of the proponents of that particular belief system such hypocrites is that they refuse to see their position of FAITH for what it really is and then attempt to insult and denigrate the faith of others. That demonstrates a HUGE problem with insecurity and doubt on that side. Huge.
Well, I'm here to tell you, that argument has been fully DESTROYED as being scientific in origin. Nope; that's these particular folk's FAITH WALK.
They just need to fess up, otherwise they come off looking either dishonest or profoundly ignorant. Unfortunately many have too much pride and self-arrogance to even go there.
Certain folks just don't want other religious people, especially Christians, to see their views as on the same level and deserving of the same respect as their irrational self-created, abiogenic fairytale. Too bad.
People can believe what they want. That is true especially here in the USA where we have freedom of religious worship. Thank God.
If the "abiogenic" and "exploding nothing creating everything" crowd would just chill out and stop acting like their positions are truly and purely scientific instead of being based 100% on FAITH, that would go a long way for religious tolerance. Again, they just need to be honest and stop playing games about it.
In the long run, that admission will go a long, long way in mutual understanding, respect, and peaceful co-existence.
That is what we all want anyway, isn't it?