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Pretend "Vegetarians"

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*sigh*

I wasn't even going to rant about this, but the insane amounts of stupidity I've seen recently just got me so mad!

It is a MAJOR irritation of mine when people claim they don't eat meat when they really do!

Okay, so I was watching that show 'For the Love of Ray J' on VH-1, and he had the contestants do some challenges for the chance to go on a date with him that night. One of the challenges required each team to eat 4 hot dogs (they looked SOOO nasty!) before continuing. To make a long story short, one team won, and the contestant nicknamed 'Platinum' tells Ray she "doesn't even eat meat", but she did it for him (but she ate all four hot dogs!). These weren't even just hot dogs, they were chili dogs with MASSIVE amounts of greasy meat piled high on them, with a giant side of greasy fries. THEN they go out and have suchi for dinner! Great! Just great, you moron! Go on national TV claiming to not eat meat, and stuff your face with hot dogs!

Then I heard someone else claim to not eat meat, but eat chicken.

Okay, stupid crap like that REALLY, REALLY ticks me off! I don't care what others eat, but why do they feel the need to lie?!!!

Let me break it down. When it comes to humans:

Omnivore - eats animals, non-animal foods at the same time

Vegetarian - NO animals! NO animals whatsoever in ANY FORM!!

Why is it so frickin' hard for some people to understand?!! How come people don't know the difference between animals and plants all of a sudden?! That's basic stuff taught to little kids! How'd they get through school/life being so DUMB?!!!

I'm irritated because it's these morons who confuse others and make it hard for those of us who really ARE vegetarians, because when we come along, confused people try to serve us meat, or foods with meat juice, with the equally confused response of, "Well, the vegetarians I know eat chicken/fish". Then they're NOT vegetarians! They're lying ignorant wannabe turds! People should know what 'vegetarian' means just by the word. It's got VEGETABLE in it, as in PLANT/NOT ANIMAL! HELLO!!

Along with this, I can't stand the seemingly endless sub-categories for vegetarians, which just adds MORE confusion! People have turned a concept that should be easy and simple to understand into something that is unnecessarily confusing. I blame picky eaters who want to feel special. "I'm a lacto-vegetarian." "I'm an ovo-vegetarian." "I'm an ovo-lacto-vegetarian." "I'm a pescatarian." "I'm a pollo-tarian." "I eat honey." "I'm a flexitarian." What the heck?!! Not all vegetarians eat the same things, and that's fine, but all these sub-categories? Just stupid.

Eggs are NOT animals. They COME from animals and may CONTAIN baby animals, but they themselves are NOT animals, and the ones eaten in places like the United States are NOT fertilized and never were and are treated, so they're lifeless shells of goop and nothing else. No animals eaten.

Milk is NOT an animal. It COMES from animals and may CONTAIN creatures like bacteria, but if it's been thoroughly treated and pasteurized, there's nothing in it. It's just an opaque, white liquid. No animals eaten. Same with milk-based/dairy foods, and butter substitutes (margerine, the stuff most people buy from the store) are made from oils and salt, so they don't even have milk in them. However, with cheese it's a bit different, as some cheeses are made with material that comes from the stomach (not all, but some, and some butters might be similar, though this is not as likely).

Honey is NOT an animal. It COMES from bees (insects are animals) and is a source of food/energy for bees, but it's NOT an animal. If you think about it, honey is basically sweet bee vomit, as they ingest the pollen or nectar and then regurgitate/spit it back out, and it gathers, and then they use it for themselves.

Fish IS an animal, along with shrimp, crab and lobster, clams and oysters. As far as I'm concerned, 'pescatarians' are just pickier omnivores who eat seafood instead of other forms of meat, and 'flexitarians' are just omnivores who don't eat meat all the time. Why or HOW they got grouped with vegetarians, I have no idea.

Chicken IS an animal, as are ALL birds. This one should be obvious, but some people, for whatever reason, think that eating birds isn't eating meat. Just strange.

I hate to break it to people, but insects are ANIMALS, too. They may not be hairy or feathery or fleshy like other animals, but they're STILL animals. As are creatures like worms and sponges, and bacteria are classified by SOME as basic-form animals (for those who eat yogurt - there's bacteria/probiotic-free yogurt, but it's not nearly as prevalent as yogurt with bacteria), though it's not as clear with bacteria (since some feel that since we already have our own bacteria in our bodies, it's okay (better to just ask, as some people just don't like yogurt - and cheese).

Meat juice is STILL consuming animals. It's not like the animals took a hot bath and got out and the water was saved. Their remains are STILL in the meat juice. Meat juice is salty because the salt was extracted out of the bones and fat and other tissues.

You know what a person who does not eat animals in any form, nor anything that comes from them is? A VEGAN!

I'm tired of people pretending to be vegetarians and confusing others. I and other vegetarians get asked stupid questions like, "Do you eat chicken?" "Do you eat fish/seafood?" because of the confusion, and then there's so-called meatless/vegetarian foods being prepared with meat juice (chicken/beef stock). I was even asked if I eat potatoes. POTATOES!

I've got a cousin who told me her dad doesn't eat meat, but he still eats chicken. You know I quickly corrected her.

Like I said, I truly don't care WHAT others choose to eat. That's not why I get mad. It's people confusing others that work my nerves. Pretending they don't eat meat and they just ate from KFC. What a bunch of crap. There is NO such thing as being 'semi-' or 'technically' a vegetarian. A person either is or is not, it's not that hard to figure out, and is just as absurd as some claiming to be 'technically' virgins (sex = no virgin).

For the ones who like to say they don't eat meat but they really do, PLEASE STOP IT. For those who know people who are 'vegetarians' but they still eat meat, THEY ARE LYING TO YOU. Real vegetarians are NOT going to eat animals, not even sometimes or occasionally, and YES, meat juice is still something we do NOT consume. We don't eat animals, PERIOD. End of story. Yes, it IS that serious.

** One more thing I'd like to share with those who may not know. French fries, from restaurants are NOT 'safe' as EVERYTHING is fried in the same grease/oil. It's JUST AS BAD as a 'vegetarian' meal being made with meat juice. Also, jello and many candies are not 'safe' either, as they contain gelatin, which is a substance from animal bones (gelatin capsules, like the ones for medicine, are the same).

Okay, rant over.
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Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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29 months ago: I know just how you feel. I am non-catchuparian. I live in an area teeming with catchup eaters. When I eat eat french fries plain, they invariably invite themselves to pour the nasty stuff onto my plate. YUK!!!
29 months ago: Loc, I too was confused because I tried to add something for "vegetarians" as I saw them and was pretty much "terminated" with a full blown explanation of all of the tribes of vegetarianisms. All because my recipe had dairy (cheese and butter). Dang. I never thought of cheese and butter as animal. However, the discussion continued with a full breakdown of all catagories of vegatarians through vegan. Me being a carnovore accepted the advice of the reply and have since given up on ever trying to add a vegatarian course to any meal I ever make. I ended the conversation with... I'll give you a bucket and point you to my garden.

OOTB, Try slopping some Mayo with a tad bit of Tony Chachere and Tobasco on their plate. Oops that has eggs.
scotmanster
scotmanster
29 months ago: Why does it have to be a statement to the whole world that people are vegetarians? I mean really It is your body do what you wish but to mad at someone for saying they are vegetarian and then eating 4 hotdogs is silly. How are they making vegetarians look bad? Should all vegetarians have rights in the Constitution? Are they discriminated against daily? Just seems to be silly to me.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
29 months ago: Things that come from animals, may not be meat, but it is still a part of its chemistry.

Eggs, milk and cheese and butter are animal products. So you are still eating an animal.

The many kinds of ways of eating, is to one's own taste. And its explanation of what you eat may not be correct. And that is ONLY the fault of education or study.

I agree that people calling themselves what they are not, is silly or worst. And that is unfortunate, because it creates confusion.

But if you eat these animal products -- you are eating its body products.

I belief that the best thing to do, is just smile when they claim to be what obviously they are not.

Don't let it bother you.

SMILE AND LIVE AND LET LIVE.

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scotmanster
scotmanster
29 months ago: I just find it all strange I mean really if a animal dies in a field and the farmer tills up that field the remains are embedded in that whole field. Farmer turns around and plants corn. So a vegetarian turns around and buys the corn from that field that an animal died in. Your screwed either way. *Passes Locs a quarter pounder* :)
29 months ago: @ scotmanster: The reason I'm mad about it is because it's people like that who cause confusion for others, and when it's done on TV, it's worse. People go by what they see, so if they see someone pretending to be a vegetarian on TV eating chicken and fish or other meats, they think, "Oooh, so THAT'S what vegetarians eat." They can't help being confused, as they've been deceived by liars. The problem is when actual vegetarians encounter those who are confused, and are then offered meat. Not only that, but darn it, it's making a mockery of vegetarianism.
29 months ago: @ Out Of The Box: Blech, I am NOT fond of ketchup. I'm so glad more people stopped assuming everyone likes ketchup.

@ RONBOT: Foods that come from animals are not the animals. For a long time people have consumed milk. The cows/goats were never harmed. That would be like saying people eat trees because apples come from trees. It's only the apples that are eaten, the trees are left alone.
29 months ago: @scotmanster...in regards to the hotdogs,I think Locs point was that the girl was clearly not telling the truth about her lifestyle. A true "never eat meat" vegetarian is not going to fall of the wagon for hotdogs. And if they did I would say they would vommitting shortly after they hit their stomaches.

In some places i think it is still a fad to "not eat meat"...everyone has to try it once right?...lol
scotmanster
scotmanster
29 months ago: That makes sense Harshaw never thought of it that way. I hope the guy on the show did not pick that girl because she conforms to others if it might be for personal gain. Very sly.

"The problem is when actual vegetarians encounter those who are confused, and are then offered meat. Not only that, but darn it, it's making a mockery of vegetarianism."

I see your point Locs4Lyfe. I did like your one rant about your family over the holidays. Trying to serve you vegetables with the same utensil they used to serve the meat out with. Our family is not well to do but we atleast know table manners, like having a utensil for each dish and not using your fork you stuck in your mouth to serve more food to yourself. All disgusting if you ask me.

Don't take my previous questions to heart Locs4Lyfe. I like to laugh alot and poke fun but I do respect people for being unique.

29 months ago: @ scotmanster: Don't even worry about it. I don't take stuff to heart, I just like to make sure people are informed. ^_^
29 months ago: Hey Locs, Don't take this wrong it really is a joke.
Are McDonalds Big Macs OK? They are Soy aren't they?
Yeah, I know beef flavor added. So ask for a Non-Beef flavored Soy Mac hold the Mayo. I wonder if they will know what your talking about.
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
29 months ago: Locs4Lyfe:

let me explain again. Animals have parts:

1. Blood - Alkaline
2. Milk _ Acid
3. Cheese from milk. Acid
4. Eggs -acid
5. Bones -- Alkaline.
6. Meat -- Acid
7. Tendons etc. Acid

These are parts of an animal.

These are their PH balances.

ANIMAL PRODUCTS COME FROM ANIMALS.

NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

You are consuming parts of an animal.

To be a pure vegetarian, is to stay away from all animal products or understand the PH diet.

Very few people know how to do the correct PH diet.

Hope this helps you.

THE RONBOT HUNTER
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29 months ago: @ RONBOT: There are alternatives/substitutes to cheese, milk, and eggs, made from plants (for those who want ot eat them), and I can't think of any vegetarians that would consume meat and blood and tendons.
29 months ago: Eat what you like, even eggs although they are one animal product I would not serve a vegan, not because they might be sterile eggs but because they are an incomplete animal and if you don't eat animals...... Honey, milk, cheese, butter are all animal products but are not the animal themsleves. By that logic you can eat the plants grown in decomposed animal flesh with no fear of having crossed the line. But I'm not a vegan, I eat things that keep me alive without starving for my next meal.

As for the cause of your rant, I think you took too much offense at the contestent who was required to eat something or be eliminated. She should have expressed her eating habits prior to entering the contest, that way they could have come up with a suitable challenge without bringing her eating choices in to question.

On the other hand.... Go for it! Lamblast those half-vegan's any time you like. They are either one or the other and there is no inbetween. Inbetween's are omnivores and should never claim to be vegan. They might eat more from one side of the food tree than the other but they still nibble around the entire bush!
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
29 months ago: Locs4Lyfe:

Even if you over cook meat, it still has traces of blood in it.

Yes I believe that most vegetarians would avoid the animal products.But many still do eat eggs,cheese and milk.

Siempre Solo:

If any hormones are in the meat, they are also in the blood. And they are also in the milk, and in the calf or eggs.

That is why a doctor will tell, what you have - your born and unborn child will have or inherit.

It gets transferred in the blood.

There is NO escaping the blood.

WEAR GLOVES WHEN TOUCHING ANY BLOOD.


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Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
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29 months ago: About the lady who ate the hot dogs after saying she was a vegetarian, and the suggestion that the show should have tailored the challenge to fit her beliefs.

There are moral issues that are constantly popping up on these "reality" shows lately. Survivor seems to be all about tricking your way into a million dollars. Dog eat dog was a show that lived up to its name. But the one that really turned me away from television all together was the girl who, for a few thousand dollars, admitted on national television to multiple extramarital affairs, with her husband sitting right across from her.

The shows seem to be trying to show which lines in the sand can be crossed, and which ones can be erased, all for the sake of a little fame and a few bucks. The "vegetarian" on the show you mentioned threw her beliefs overboard for what?
THE RONBOT HUNTER
THE RONBOT HUNTER
29 months ago: siempre solo

Soy or soy sauce comes from a plant that is no longer natural.

It has been genetically altered or mutated, to the point that you will no longer find un-mutated seeds in the US.

But I agree with all other things you have posted.

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