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Pretend Bush Is President

Posted 23 months ago|16 comments|377 views
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In the following article

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/hi...

it is reported that the U.S. State Department is outfitting all it's embassies with the finest crystal stemware for all the important people in the world.

The price tag is $5,400,000.00.

You reckon they'll serve moonshine in those glasses?

And guess where the company that is manufacturing the stemware is NOT located. (Hint: It is far across Old Man Kelsey's Ocean.)

And guess how many bids were received to provide the crystal stemware for the company that received the contract. (Hint: It is less than 2.)

Now, pretend Bush was President.

Can you hear the cry babies now?
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markbyrn
markbyrn
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23 months ago: If Bush was President you wouldn't blink at 5.4M considering that Bush spent near $600,000,000 to build a fortress Embassy in Iraq - it's the largest Embassy in the world. Our largest embassy is Iraq?! Iraq??!! I guess Moon Beam Bush thought that desert backwater was the most important country in the world.

Never mind that because of the Bush/Cheney fortress America siege mentality, we spent mega billions (and are continuing) to rebuild nearly every Embassy to be a maximum security compound. They even built a $100M Embassy fortress in the tiny country of Armenia well outside of the city when they had a perfectly fine building in the heart of the city. "Ohhh no, we can't be in the city - there are terro-wists under every twee and we must build obscenely expensive Embassys that look like Supermax prisons with walls and moats!"

Of course now that Obama is in office and the long term plans for Embassy fortresses in places like Pakistan and London are moving along, Fox News and the two-faced "fiscal" Republicans are babbling about the costs as though Bush/Cheney hadn't put us on this insane path to begin with.

Yeah, why don't you pretend Bush is still President, and that way, you'll swallow billions and trillions of wasted dollars in the name of security or war. If Bush was still President, you wouldn't have posted this to begin with.
23 months ago: Mark.

Your downfall will be your 1 tracked mind.

Other than Israel, Iraq is the most important place. Democracy starts there. It has to be defended and supported. Human nature will make it spread. Unless you've conveniently forgotten, protests are going on in Iran. Bush set the stage for that.

As far as embassies, you also seem to forget we're at war.

So, you have no problem with demwhits skimping the one bid rules, but repubes sure can't.

You're credibility is slipping.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
23 months ago: ...Other than Israel, Iraq is the most important place...

That's insane - YGTSM. Is that some kind of zany religious nexus thing - talk about 1 track mind. Yikes.

...As far as embassies, you also seem to forget we're at war...

If we were really at war, we would have scaled back the embassies until we annihilated our enemies and than we'd go back to playing tea and crumpets diplomacy at the embassies. Instead, we're following the enemy master plan - to turn us into paranoid security schizophrenics who will spend themselves into the poor house with massive security dragnets and a perpetual yet impotent stand-off with terrorists that grow like weeds. Of course it's not just about what happens overseas:

Perhaps it is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to provisions agst. danger real or pretended from abroad.
- James Madison
23 months ago: uh Mark.

You libs keep forgetting about 9-11
markbyrn
markbyrn
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23 months ago: Yes, which happened under the watchful eyes of Moon Beam Bush and compare our impotent response to what we did in response to the attack on Pearl Harbor. BTW, WWII lasted but 4 years with a clear victory & end, and here we've doubled down and more with no end in sight.

Quiz: Who made the following quote:

Crises there will continue to be. In meeting them, whether foreign or domestic, great or small, there is a recurring temptation to feel that some spectacular and costly action could become the miraculous solution to all current difficulties.

But each proposal must be weighed in the light of a broader consideration: the need to maintain balance in and among national programs -- balance between the private and the public economy, balance between cost and hoped for advantage.

Another factor in maintaining balance involves the element of time. As we peer into society's future, we -- you and I, and our government -- must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering, for our own ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow.
scotmanster
scotmanster
23 months ago: "under the no-bid contract"

I wonder how much Steuben Crystal of upstate Corning donated to the Administrations election funds.
23 months ago: Obviously, not enough.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
23 months ago: Japanese war - 125,000 American deaths including the submarine campaigns, Pearl Harbor, Okinawa, air war, etc.

Now exactly how have we doubled down?

And my guess is Dwight D. Eisenhower in his Military-Industrial Complex Speech.
Ain't Google grand?
23 months ago: Out.

Does it seem like everybody around us has gone insane?
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
23 months ago: Not insane, entirely. To us, they would appear to be. To them, we appear to be just as loony. The natural knee jerk reaction is to lash out against the opposing side when a flaw in your side is revealed.

"You're a stinker!"
"Well what about you? You remember that time that you...?"

Mark brings up good points in his hurry to shift the focus to misdeeds and perceived misdeeds of others.

" Instead, we're following the enemy master plan - to turn us into paranoid security schizophrenics..."

What liberties are we being tricked into relinquishing due to fear? Fear of attack, fear of getting sick, fear of poverty, fear of fear.

He stopped just short of identifying exactly who the enemy is, the same enemy PinochiObama works for. And unfortunately, the same enemy who pulled the strings that got us into the Gulf War mess.

He's come a long way since the election of the Messiah, and as the obvious continues to unfold, more people will drop their partisan loyalties and demand the truth.
Out Of The Box
Out Of The Box
 Moderator
23 months ago: I particularly liked the passage in the speech:

"As we peer into society's future, we -- you and I, and our government -- must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering, for our own ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. "

Even as some justify the spending of this administration by comparing to that of previous administrations, the simple fact is that Markbyrn, like so many other previously loyal Democrats, is seeing the destructive effect our runaway government is having, not only here at home, but around the world. There are forces at work outside our scope, but we need to insulate ourselves through a responsible government.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
23 months ago: OOTB,

It does apply to the current administration but it was far more relevant to Bush Jr (doubled the national debt), Bush Sr (doubled the national debt), and Reagan (quadrupled the national debt), and they belong to the political party of Eisenhower; a party that defines itself in terms of fiscal responsibility.

Yet they mortgaged our future to the hilt - Reagan invested in the military industrial complex and broke the bank to vanquish the evil empire and we end up getting bit by snakes who don't need a military industrial complex, and it happened under the watchful eyes of Moon Beam Bush. What does Bush Jr do in response - he pulls out a weed whacker in Afghanistan and we have 7 year stand-off that's as effective as the war was in Vietnam, and than he had a trillion dollar war in Iraq that only created more snakes that want to bite us while sating the theological delusions of the religious right who thinks it's a grand religious war against Islam to fulfill bible prophecy (e.g. Iraq and Israel are the most important -sigh-). Eisenhower would be aghast at the idiocy, incompetency, and the absolute waste as his warning of a mortgaged future has come to a fruition.

Obama only gets in due to the massive failure of Bush Jr as the economy balloon bursts, and he of course he's holding the debt anchor along with the stand-off wars in progress. Suddenly the religious right and the GOP revert to pounding the fiscal responsibility drum - the stench of their hypocrisy is overwhelming.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
23 months ago: .Does it seem like everybody around us has gone insane?..

That's coming from somebody who astonishingly said, "Other than Israel, Iraq is the most important place." Is that what Pat Robertson told you? I always wondered if people who live in insane asylums think that the outside world is insane - I think I'm getting confirmation here.
23 months ago: Fine Mark.

You know me.

To BUSH, outside of Israel, Iraq was the most important place. No?
23 months ago: Fine Mark.

It's Bush's fault!
23 months ago: outta.

I'm afraid it's too late though.

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