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Pope John Paul II:Sainthood worthy?

Posted 26 months ago|8 comments|601 views
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I am appalled at the idea that the previous Pope of the Catholic Church may be sainted under Catholic ruling by his replacement.

The irritation of this idea is simple this Pope was one of the people involved in the upper echelon the Catholic Church which decided for years it was better to hide the sexual abuse indicators of some of their employee’s the Priests.

Where does anyone get off thinking that this still should allow this person to be sainted under their guidelines? They intentionally hid all the indicators, proof of sexual misconduct of both minors and adult constituency.

They allowed these men to not only continue to work in their employ but, to stay free from criminal court jurisdiction by hiding, disguising and even calling the victims liars.

While the idea of Sainting this man might be a Catholic issue there is a broader picture of telling those victims that despite hiding the abuse they suffered this man should become an almost deity among his fellow man.
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scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: It would be the same as all US citizens saying because someone murdered someone in the US with a gun then all US citizens should not own a gun because of that murder. It is called personal accountability. Not accountability as a group of people. Everyone makes choices in life. I don't expect someone else to pay for my bad choices as I don't expect I pay for theirs. Personal accountability.
scotmanster
scotmanster
26 months ago: It is truly sad though that people hold extreme views. I mean even the church is not excluded to perversion it has crept deep into our society. You can thank everyone involved in Hollywood for that, they are the ones selling freakish sex acts.
Billyberoo
Billyberoo
Cedar Park, TX
26 months ago: Pope John Paul II worked together with Ronald Reagan (the greatest American Prez since Jefferson) in helping to tear down the Berlin wall and put an ended to the Soviet Communist Empire. Does anyone realize how many young Russian women were NOT bought and sold into slavery because of this??
26 months ago: While helping Reagan in tearing down the Berlin Wall he was also part of the Hierarchy in the Catholic Church/Vatican who aided those Priests who abused their own constituency.

Those people trusted that these people who would put the fear of God into them over their choices in behavior as common men/women would be in fact breaking their own vows of celibacy and not always with adults.

Any person who decided it was way more costly to make these issues within the church system public doesn't in my raised in the Catholic Religion butt deserves to be sainted period.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
26 months ago: JLK,

I'm sure the Vatican is just being coldly pragmatic - Pope John Paul II was a shining star in an otherwise horrific black hole of shocking and festering scandals. Perhaps they figure in bestowing sainthood to the most popular Pope in living memory, it will help turn the corner but they're only fooling themselves.

Unless a new Pope comes along that was a dynamic as Pope John Paul II and repairs the breach, all but the most faithful will continue to be wary of it's clergy and ignore it's hypocritical moral encyclicals.

Giving the past Pope extra recognition might at best generate some extra admissions & revenue at the The Pope John Paul II Cultural Center in Washington DC.
25 months ago: Compared to the Popes of the past, John Paul II is already a "saint."

Besides, no human cor organization can truly bestow sainthood on another anyway.
markbyrn
markbyrn
 Moderator
25 months ago: ...Besides, no human or organization can truly bestow sainthood on another anyway...

Huey, I was thinking the same thing as a question but according to their catechism, they don't bestow sainthood; they 'recognize' a saint, and of course they can employ the 'God revealed it to us' gambit and the logic circle is fully closed. What authority are you quoting to say they can't?
25 months ago: The word Saint comes from sanctify, which means set apart, consecrated or sacred.

Biblically speaking, ALL believers are saints already. They have been set aside for God's use. This happens BEFORE we die, not after.

Pretty simple, greatly misunderstood.

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